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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Latrobe on June 06, 2015, 10:26:03 AM
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Ack running seems to be the norm in AH2 anymore. Every single arena is infested with it. I've always made the joke that people run to their ack to "protect murrrr scuuuurrrr!" but I really wonder what it is that makes people run to their ack all the time? What is going through their minds when they choose to just give up and run? Is it really all about the score, or is there something I'm missing?
The only reasons that I can think of that people run to ack before even trying to fight are to protect their score, giving up fighting someone better than them, or are legitimately scared to die in a video game. I want to believe that people don't run to ack to protect score because score is the most pointless thing in the game and never accurately portrays a players skill (and never will), but there are some people out there that do run just to protect score. Not everyone runs for score though, right? There's just no way that 99% of the MA is completely obsessed with score. What is the reason that others run? Is it because they know that they just can't beat the person they are fighting? This one I kind of get. No one likes losing, no one likes dying over and over again, but what do you think you're doing by running to ack? Losing! Whether you're getting shot down or running to ack you have lost. There is no difference between the two. Besides, you will never be able to get better and eventually kill the people always killing you if you never fight and learn! Or is it really just that people are truly terrified of dying in a video game? How? Why? If you die, so what? We get unlimited lives in AH2! If you die then just reup! Why is AH2 the only game that I know of where the majority of the players are afraid of fighting? In other games that I play where you only get ONE life people still rush straight at the enemy and fight. AH2 you get UNLIMITED lives! There is no penalty for dying in this game. I just don't understand it. I've tried countless times to try and get in the head of an ack runner and figure out why they choose to run before even trying to fight and I'm just at a lose. I can not figure it out. Nothing makes sense.
What is the reason for people just giving up, hitting the deck, and running to the nearest friendly ack? I have a feeling this thread is going to go way off the rails, but I really want to know what ack runners are thinking when they decide to just give up so I can try and help them get better.
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While protecting score may be the agenda for some, i truly think that it's a strategic move. It does tend to pull the advantage away from the opponent, and resets the fight. I've fought you a lot Latrobe, and love the fight as much as you, but in the MA, the object IS to not die. I still don't ack run, and will follow someone in, but I've found that in many cases I don't think so badly of those who do, especially if their side is outnumbered. Make sense?
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Is it really all about the score, or is there something I'm missing?
On most players, it wouldn't have any significant impact on score. In fact, if you never leave ack your score/rank is going to be horrible.
It's just the desire not to get shot down by the other guy. It's more psychologically than anything else.
Generally, I think the impact of score in the MA tends to be overrated. People do so much that's 'bad' for score (bomb'n'bail, or dropping troops&bail to stop base from flashing, suicide dar porking, bombing somehting else than town centers, neglecting some score categories and so on)
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I can see how it can be used as a strategic advantage to reset the fight, but why do I continuously run into 2, 3 or even 4 enemies all alone and within a minute all of them are running to the nearest base? That's the kind of ack running that I don't get, the ones where they have every single advantage possible or enough advantages to win a fight and they choose to just throw it all away. Using the ack when you're out numbered is a good way to equalize the fight, but what about when you have the numbers or advantages? I just don't get it in those cases.
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Its pure normality of the animal instincts. Much like how a mouse runs back to their hole in the midst of of trouble. It is a safe haven that they retract too. Pure, simple, biology and the survival of the fitest, using the environment around you for protection. This will never stop, and it's something that most players do naturally for survival. The only way to limit that would be to stop Ack all together, but we all know that wouldn't be realistic.
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It's something I do to reset a fight. If I lose the advantage ( or any chance of regaining it) I will drop out the fight to reset if the option is available.
If that option is ack then so be it. However ack is a poor reset unless the fight is already low and you can use it to give adequate separation. If bogie insists on following me in then he/she will have to fly around in it. If bogie goes high and around then reset is difficult. If bogie turns away then reset is achieved.
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This is why I de-ack fields religiously! No ACK no hidey. :D
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I've run to ack several times. Not to save my score, but as Copprhed said, to pull the advantage away from the opponent.
Why is that? Well, first off you'd have to be very near your own field to be able to run to ack. Often that means that you're either upping or landing, in both cases your speed, altitude and energy are low. In the latter case you might even be out of ammo and/or fuel. That could be called an anti-vulching maneuver, couldn't it?
I've never heard or seen anyone run to ack from 30k over an enemy field with full ammo. I must admit, though, that I've chased a P51 for half a sector in a G6 towards his home base but there must've been other reasons than just wanting to get shield from a friendly ack.
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While protecting score may be the agenda for some, i truly think that it's a strategic move. It does tend to pull the advantage away from the opponent, and resets the fight. I've fought you a lot Latrobe, and love the fight as much as you, but in the MA, the object IS to not die. I still don't ack run, and will follow someone in, but I've found that in many cases I don't think so badly of those who do, especially if their side is outnumbered. Make sense?
I don't think it's "instinctive" , and true it's not all about score. I think the above quote highlighted may have something to do with it.
Personally I'd rather NOT have a cartoon death, but that is only because it takes so long to up and get back to the fight. So many players avoid the fight because they don't want to die. And they KNOW they are going to die because they can't fight. They can't fight because they are afraid to die and so never get any practice at getting better. A vicious circle.
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I've run to ack several times. Not to save my score, but as Copprhed said, to pull the advantage away from the opponent.
Why is that? Well, first off you'd have to be very near your own field to be able to run to ack. Often that means that you're either upping or landing, in both cases your speed, altitude and energy are low. In the latter case you might even be out of ammo and/or fuel. That could be called an anti-vulching maneuver, couldn't it?
I've never heard or seen anyone run to ack from 30k over an enemy field with full ammo. I must admit, though, that I've chased a P51 for half a sector in a G6 towards his home base but there must've been other reasons than just wanting to get shield from a friendly ack.
I also use running to ack if I'm 2 or more vs 1 and at energy disadvantage. In most cases starting to furball with one just ends up with their friend cherry picking you so the best move is to take the fight where the enemy can't stay very long without risking damage.
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Kill them before they run to ack :) but if they make it there I normally hang up out of range and dive through for the kill.
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Its pure normality of the animal instincts. Much like how a mouse runs back to their hole in the midst of of trouble. It is a safe haven that they retract too. Pure, simple, biology and the survival of the fitest, using the environment around you for protection. This will never stop, and it's something that most players do naturally for survival. The only way to limit that would be to stop Ack all together, but we all know that wouldn't be realistic.
I don't think it's human instinct. Human instinct plays at least some role in gaming but in the end we all know that we're just playing a video game. Video games are meant to be a fun place where we can do whatever we want without fear of consequence so things like self preservation go right out the window. If it really was human instinct then we'd see this kind of thing in all games, and I'm just not seeing it anywhere else other than AH2.
I don't think it's "instinctive" , and true it's not all about score. I think the above quote highlighted may have something to do with it.
Personally I'd rather NOT have a cartoon death, but that is only because it takes so long to up and get back to the fight. So many players avoid the fight because they don't want to die. And they KNOW they are going to die because they can't fight. They can't fight because they are afraid to die and so never get any practice at getting better. A vicious circle.
That's somewhat interesting. People not wanting to die because the flight back to the fight is so long. Makes me wonder if HTC moves all the bases closer together then people will be more incline to fight to the death? I'll have to pay attention the next time maps like Crater are up and see if I see a noticeable drop in ack runners.
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I have 2 things to say about ack running.
1) Boo!!!
2) Turn and fight
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I'll chase the coward into his ack and kill him or as others have said just take down the ack.
Now I have ran to ack a few times simply just to get my speed back up and alt after losing all that fighting on the deck and then get back into the fight
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I don't think it's human instinct. Human instinct plays at least some role in gaming but in the end we all know that we're just playing a video game. Video games are meant to be a fun place where we can do whatever we want without fear of consequence so things like self preservation go right out the window. If it really was human instinct then we'd see this kind of thing in all games, and I'm just not seeing it anywhere else other than AH2.
That's somewhat interesting. People not wanting to die because the flight back to the fight is so long. Makes me wonder if HTC moves all the bases closer together then people will be more incline to fight to the death? I'll have to pay attention the next time maps like Crater are up and see if I see a noticeable drop in ack runners.
I don't really play a lot of other games, but from what I've seen they don't really have the same format. But really what I meant was, is if the soul purpose is to stay alive and not die, as others have mentioned, than it is simply a survival tool using their surroundings which is instinctive to running back to ack. Many people would say they don't play for score, but at the same time theu run to ack in their P51ds. So if you have to fly a P51D and run to ack, obviously you care about your stats in one way or another.
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I have 2 things to say about ack running.
1) Boo!!!
2) Turn and fight
If you're already at a disadvantage due to numbers, energy or altitude, it's suicide to just turn and fight, and frankly as I stated in another thread there are many who look at the MA as much strategically as just pure fighting.
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Latrobe, I think you are being a bit dramatic with a touch of chest beating.
I get on to fellow country men when the vox rings with "Look at the ack huggers." when we have a fighter cap. Hell yes I will use the ack to my advantage anytime I can.
Using the ack shield on a field of CV is like using the speed of a mustang or the pure climb of a 16 or k model. You use what you got. No difference than dragging a plane over flak or under another fellow countryman. No difference when you are in a turny plane and want your enemy to play to your plan's advantage.
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We complain about it when the other side does it, but a lot of us still do it. Again, I do it to reset a fight and honestly against a decent pilot that's all that's happening. It's not much worse than having someone clear your six in my opinion.
Hugging ack, however has far less tactical value. If a plane is pinned to the field it can't stop a goon and it has very little chance of any offensive action. All an ack hugger does is act as a distraction and a lure to sucker desperate pilots into making a questionable move.
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CV ack seems to be 10 times more lethal than ground ack.
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If you're already at a disadvantage due to numbers, energy or altitude, it's suicide to just turn and fight, and frankly as I stated in another thread there are many who look at the MA as much strategically as just pure fighting.
You never know what will unfold in a fight. I've been in a number of hopeless situations where the tide has turned in my favor. It's a feeling you can't obtain without that experience! It may unfold this way 1 in 50 times but for me it's an addiction which yields a greater high than just trying to save chicken skin. :lol
I suppose one could determine a socially acceptable matrix for why someone might run to ack. Out numbered, poor E state, Winchester, low fuel, damaged flight controls, ect.. It can be discussed all day long but it's simply just part of the game.
The mental image I had in mind was a fight were E states are similar and someone runs to ack or where your outnumbered and the red guy runs to ack after getting beat in the merge. To this I say boo and kindly suggest the red plane turn and fight.
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Of course, then there's pilots like me who aren't running to ack as much as to a runway to land on before the final PW pass-out to the great beyond occurs. Ack would be just a bonus. (And oft my runway is a moving deck.)
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most people just cant fight there own battles plain and simple...
that's why there are squads ingame...
and Gangs/associations in the real world.....
I personally think and dont care who gets offended....its the core reason this world is in the state that it is in....cowards
ya I said it cowards...and I mean come on how friggen cowardly do you have to be to worry about a death in a silly game...
this world has been breeding cowards for decades now......who would rather call the cops then take care of themselves.
or jump on someone with there 10 friends....
this game is no different then the world
if the truth hurts....change your reality.
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On most players, it wouldn't have any significant impact on score. In fact, if you never leave ack your score/rank is going to be horrible.
It's just the desire not to get shot down by the other guy. It's more psychologically than anything else.
Generally, I think the impact of score in the MA tends to be overrated. People do so much that's 'bad' for score (bomb'n'bail, or dropping troops&bail to stop base from flashing, suicide dar porking, bombing somehting else than town centers, neglecting some score categories and so on)
I agree with this. You know the mentality of some here. Typically when I see someone run to ack to get away they either (and rarely) have kills to land, or just don't want to be killed by "that tard", hacker, any other thing you can come up with.
I don't understand it thoroughly though. I would be happy to ask.
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this world has been breeding cowards for decades now......
Millennia even.... In fact the ability ( or sense) to run away and return when the stakes are to your advantage is core to the survival/creation of the greatest of empires if not the supremacy of the human race upon this earth.
Cowardice as many see it is just the implementation of the survival instinct. Which is a bit silly when viewed from the perspective of a game such as AH where success is determined by the individual (if he or she is of strong enough mind) and not the babblings of those that want others to play as they would so wish.
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I'll chase the coward into his ack and kill him or as others have said just take down the ack.
Now I have ran to ack a few times simply just to get my speed back up and alt after losing all that fighting on the deck and then get back into the fight
It used by everybody.....the game is shifting.......turn fighting is becoming old and energy fighting is taking over.....people want score and achievements....that's truly what the game is about and the way HTC is taking the game...........a lot of us who have been here for a while don't care about score, taking bases or winning the war..... but the new people do..... :old:
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Do not run.
Face your opponent with all you have.
If you die you have something to learn.
Latrobe, you once said this to me. I have not forgotten it since.
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Here's the main reason I will run to ack. Most of the time I up planes with bombs and rockets. If ords get porked, don't want my plane damaged or shot down to leave open the option to re-arm. Ack can be an awesome wingman.
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Millennia even.... In fact the ability ( or sense) to run away and return when the stakes are to your advantage is core to the survival/creation of the greatest of empires if not the supremacy of the human race upon this earth.
Cowardice as many see it is just the implementation of the survival instinct. Which is a bit silly when viewed from the perspective of a game such as AH where success is determined by the individual (if he or she is of strong enough mind) and not the babblings of those that want others to play as they would so wish.
we see what happened to all the great empires of the earth so far..... ;)
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this world has been breeding cowards for decades now......who would rather call the cops then take care of themselves.
wait.. didn't you spend time in prison? :headscratch: :D
i actually tend to agree with you in your approach to the game.. fight for yourself, don't gang, make it a test of individual skill. etc.
it's a game though. not everyone is good enough to cut it by themselves. they need help (squads, ganging)
i don't know what people who have less skill in this game than others using whatever method they need to get an advantage has to do with your perception of the state of the world. no matter how lame their tactic.. call it lame, and move on. don't read so much into it lest you become bustr.
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hi my name is Scott and I'm an ack runner! now let me tell you why. .the knight's like to de ack the base and cap it. .but they will leave the town alone they are not interested in actually taking the base most of the time. which means they like to come in with alt and E and then the vulch light is on. .and when they really feeling like being stinkers they even dropped the fighter hangers limiting you to up in somethin big fat and slow ..so if I can get my b25 off the ground I'm heading to town ack to get my fight on. .chances are Latrobe you are at a enemy base and I doubt you are on the deck looking for a fight lol you come in with every advantage you can and so must the uppers. .I don't mind upping from a capped base but I will use every tool at my disposal and when I'm in a fight and I can tell I'm losing I'll hit the deck and try to get distance to reset and re merge ..PS. that's the only time you will see me ack running at a capped base I don't mind dying but I'm taking a few of you with me BTW it happened last night at 71 they left the FTH up and I had a blast died 47 times in 1 hrs and got the 3 kills lol and Lazer, razer and dodger can kma :D
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I run when it's pretty obvious I can't do much except giving an easy kill. Usually it's like 2-3 guys showing up at once in far superior dogfighters.
What I fail to understand is the ones running from a 1 on 1 straight to their ack, especially when they are excellent sticks. I always record who they are and often go get killed in the ack myself to find out. I've been surprised by some of the 'high profile' names but it's fair for them to play the way they wish. :old:
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The first rule of the MA is that there are no rules. If you want a fair fight, go to the DA.
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Ack running seems to be the norm in AH2 anymore.
Players have always run to acks, it was the "norm" back in 2000 as it is now.
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wait.. didn't you spend time in prison? :headscratch: :D
i actually tend to agree with you in your approach to the game.. fight for yourself, don't gang, make it a test of individual skill. etc.
it's a game though. not everyone is good enough to cut it by themselves. they need help (squads, ganging)
i don't know what people who have less skill in this game than others using whatever method they need to get an advantage has to do with your perception of the state of the world. no matter how lame their tactic.. call it lame, and move on. don't read so much into it lest you become bustr.
I did yes.... spent 10 years before I was 22 locked up...but what does that have to do with my assessment of the situation.
the state of the world....Aces High is just a mini version.... :aok
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Haven`t played for a while due to some hardware related problems, but I used to do a lot of ack running during my gametime. Not so much during the beginning but after a while I could pretty much predict when I was about to get shot down and then it was nose down, stick stir and ack. Even if I told myself at the start of a flight that this is going to be a fight to the death and no running it all went out the door as soon as I felt at a disadvantage. It feels bad when I get shot down, it feels evil good when ack, wirble etc clears my 6, I feel neutral when someone runs away from me (usually I`m not going to chase), sometimes I get increasingly p****d when someone starts chasing me and just won`t give up. Ack running has paid off countless of times because of a fight that followed soon after that. There is only one kind of losing in this game for me and that is getting shot down. Someone telling me that I lost because I ran to the ack is like me telling someone "congratulations you`re winner" after running to the ack, in other words doesn`t feel like it.
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Players have always run to acks, it was the "norm" back in 2000 as it is now.
But it didn't help you much till HT biffed up the ack damage. :old:
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What a ridiculous topic.
People run to ack because it gives them an advantage and... whoa! You never see anyone trying to gain an advantage in the MA.
:rolleyes:
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Do not run.
Face your opponent with all you have.
If you die you have something to learn.
Latrobe, you once said this to me. I have not forgotten it since.
That's actually a pretty badarse quote.
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Ack is lyfe.
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The first rule of the MA is that there are no rules. If you want a fair fight, go to the DA.
If there are no rules how could that be the first rule :noid
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If there are three or more planes swarming me, I might run to ack. The usual reason is a pilot wound. Doesn't happen a lot, even though most time is spent defending friendly tundra. Much of what I fly is too slow to make it to the ack anyway. :D
Edit: I won't run to wirbels though, that's uber gay.
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Ack is lyfe.
And so is pretending to be in the Navy? You're good at that.
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:rofl
Everybody has a threshold for running into ack. It just sucks when somebody else has a threshold much lower than your own.
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Ack running seems to be the norm in AH2 anymore. Every single arena is infested with it. I've always made the joke that people run to their ack to "protect murrrr scuuuurrrr!" but I really wonder what it is that makes people run to their ack all the time? What is going through their minds when they choose to just give up and run? Is it really all about the score, or is there something I'm missing?
The only reasons that I can think of that people run to ack before even trying to fight are to protect their score, giving up fighting someone better than them, or are legitimately scared to die in a video game. I want to believe that people don't run to ack to protect score because score is the most pointless thing in the game and never accurately portrays a players skill (and never will), but there are some people out there that do run just to protect score. Not everyone runs for score though, right? There's just no way that 99% of the MA is completely obsessed with score. What is the reason that others run? Is it because they know that they just can't beat the person they are fighting? This one I kind of get. No one likes losing, no one likes dying over and over again, but what do you think you're doing by running to ack? Losing! Whether you're getting shot down or running to ack you have lost. There is no difference between the two. Besides, you will never be able to get better and eventually kill the people always killing you if you never fight and learn! Or is it really just that people are truly terrified of dying in a video game? How? Why? If you die, so what? We get unlimited lives in AH2! If you die then just reup! Why is AH2 the only game that I know of where the majority of the players are afraid of fighting? In other games that I play where you only get ONE life people still rush straight at the enemy and fight. AH2 you get UNLIMITED lives! There is no penalty for dying in this game. I just don't understand it. I've tried countless times to try and get in the head of an ack runner and figure out why they choose to run before even trying to fight and I'm just at a lose. I can not figure it out. Nothing makes sense.
What is the reason for people just giving up, hitting the deck, and running to the nearest friendly ack? I have a feeling this thread is going to go way off the rails, but I really want to know what ack runners are thinking when they decide to just give up so I can try and help them get better.
It is evolution. you killed all the non-ack runners and now only ack runners live. must be some kind of intelligence there if the ack runner is the one still alive. kudos ack runner! Its a tough world out there. cept for knight F-4Us that swoop from 15k and run. they need to die as the pick swine is a scurge that needs control.
:salute
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I play to fight, and I don't really mind a though fight, those can be the best ones to be had. However, if you want to pick my cherry I'm going to play hard to get.
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I play to fight, and I don't really mind a though fight, those can be the best ones to be had. However, if you want to pick my cherry I'm going to play hard to get.
:rofl :aok
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What I don't understand is why all the "Hot Shots" think everyone should stay and be a target for them. I die a lot because I'm a lousy pilot, but where and when I die is My $14.95, not yours. Its a part of the game, just deal with it. You talk of the "thrill of the fight" and I'm sure that is is valid to a point, but you are also after the "thrill of the kill" you just wont admit it.
Now I AM an ack hugger, and I'll do it when ever and where ever I deem necessary, nothing personal, it's just way I play the game. To "not die" is part of the objective for me. :cheers:
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If someone's ack hugging just up something tough like a F6F or a Jug and drag them out by their gonads sacks.
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I did yes.... spent 10 years before I was 22 locked up...but what does that have to do with my assessment of the situation.
the state of the world....Aces High is just a mini version.... :aok
it's kind of hard for some people to take advice for getting along in civilized society from someone who had to be removed from it because they didn't get along.
this is why i wouldn't confuse the real world with games.
games aren't mini versions of the real world. they are playtime.. recreation. i tend to think there may be something wrong with people who take them too seriously.
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it's kind of hard for some people to take advice for getting along in civilized society from someone who had to be removed from it because they didn't get along.
this is why i wouldn't confuse the real world with games.
games aren't mini versions of the real world. they are playtime.. recreation. i tend to think there may be something wrong with people who take them too seriously.
hmmmmm it is my humble opinion that what makes a person uniquely qualified to give advice to me is not where one spends their time but how one spends their time. .personally I will take advice from whoever is willing to give it..ultimately it is then my responsibility to decide what to do with it ...plz forgive me I've had way too much coffee
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hmmmmm it is my humble opinion that what makes a person uniquely qualified to give advice to me is not where one spends their time but how one spends their time. .personally I will take advice from whoever is willing to give it..ultimately it is then my responsibility to decide what to do with it ...plz forgive me I've had way too much coffee
i tend to not make broad generalizations about society based on what i see in a video game.
ink does.
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What you do in a game does not reflect how you are in real life. In real life I don't think of ways to kill those around me.
semp
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Well this falls into the "personal style" of playing the game. Like other issues ie vulching , hording, and tower sitting. I will be honest, I do check the roster to see if some players are in game before I take on their usual rides with less than optimal conditions. Not that I am scared of Ink in a ki or ack ack in a 38 or Skyrr in an la or 190, but I feel it is pretty smart :neener: They and others don't need an easy kill and viewing a film in that situation does no good, except to prove you were an idiot! You old time players can probably remember when you yourselves cringed at higher cons in sight right after you took off. The arenas can be a bit harsh for newer players and ack is a descent tool to use, not that it ever helps me much. Besides I have heard all countries gripe about others flying thru ack and not getting killed like they do. So I say, come in low to a field with uppers or follow them into the ack before you label non God like players cowards. It might also help if after you shoot a guy that obviously doesn't have skills you didn't taunt and belittle them in the text buffer? That crap doesn't bother me as I don't check it but I have heard that as an excuse for taking the ho shot and running like a scalded dog. Also the previously named players are not who I am saying does that as I have no idea who it was that did the taunting but just tht I have heard it used as a reason.
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most people just cant fight there own battles plain and simple...
and Gangs/associations in the real world.....
I personally think and dont care who gets offended....its the core reason this world is in the state that it is in....cowards
this world has been breeding cowards for decades now......who would rather call the cops then take care of themselves.
or jump on someone with there 10 friends....
if the truth hurts....change your reality.
2nd
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most people just cant fight there own battles plain and simple...
that's why there are squads ingame...
and Gangs/associations in the real world.....
I personally think and dont care who gets offended....its the core reason this world is in the state that it is in....cowards
ya I said it cowards...and I mean come on how friggen cowardly do you have to be to worry about a death in a silly game...
this world has been breeding cowards for decades now......who would rather call the cops then take care of themselves.
or jump on someone with there 10 friends....
this game is no different then the world
if the truth hurts....change your reality.
Seriously? "its the core reason this world is in the state that it is in....cowards"
I'd have said factions.
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Some people need to relax. It's a game and other than the time you spend on it, it has no bearing on nor resemblance to real life.
As to ack hugging, I have seen countless accusations of this on 200 from red hordes to those trying to up and defend. And from those hovering at 8k waiting for an upper to dive down upon. I've seen this more than I have seen cons running to it. Likely in part because why would anyone run from me lol.
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What I don't understand is why all the "Hot Shots" think everyone should stay and be a target for them.
most of the "hot shots" do not stay and fight when the odds get turned on them
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So what is the mentality behind ack fear?
Ack fear seems to be the norm in AH2 today. I really wonder what it is that makes people fear the ack all the time? What is going through their minds when they choose to just give up and turn? Is it really all about the score, or is there something I'm missing?
The only reasons that I can think of that people avoid the ack before even trying to fight are to protect their score. I want to believe that people don't run to ack to protect score because score is the most pointless thing in the game and never accurately portrays a players skill (and never will), but there are some people out there that do run just to protect score.
Not everyone runs for score though, right?
No one likes losing, no one likes dying over and over again, but what do you think you're doing by avoiding the ack? Losing! Whether you're getting shot down or avoiding the ack you have lost. There is no difference between the two. Or is it really just that people are truly terrified of dying in a video game? How? Why? If you die, so what? We get unlimited lives in AH2! If you die then just reup! Why is AH2 the only game that I know of where the majority of the players are afraid of fighting? AH2 you get UNLIMITED lives! There is no penalty for dying in this game.
So be brave and dive after the ack hugger.
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One big advantage of a P-38 is that players get so fixated on trying to kill the 38 it makes it easy to drag them through ak fire, and fun too.
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Sometimes running to ack is indeed the prudent thing to do. Other times leave one scratching their head though.
Such as one of the more common ones I see that crack me up. The "One pass and runt to ack" pilots.
You're flying around at 10 K and a high pony comes diving in guns blazing, misses, and instead of using all that E advantage to regain alt advantage and set themselves up for another pass,dives to his base and circles the field ack.
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One big advantage of a P-38 is that players get so fixated on trying to kill the 38 it makes it easy to drag them through ak fire, and fun too.
My solution to this is if Im going to follow you through ack. To kill the ack or neuter the wirble as I go.
That many less guns shooting at you
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most of the "hot shots" do not stay and fight when the odds get turned on them
Good point Cobia. Of course this is coming from the one who can fly the A20 like a brewster. :devil :salute
I still enjoy the game "flyin an dyin".
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One big advantage of a P-38 is that players get so fixated on trying to kill the 38 it makes it easy to drag them through ak fire, and fun too.
Yeah man, yall were doing a good job the other day when we were attacking yalls base. There were 2 of you trying to up to defend and I'm sitting here like "why is the dude upping to defend in a P38J lol". Sure enough some how y'all finally got some E going and I wasn't trying to play in the ack. Both of you ended up chasing me for a good bit before I had to do a swirledoodle and force a over shoot. But it definitely worked out for y'all this time and this is really the only preferable way to utilize the ack in a dire defense position.
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. . . I had to do a swirledoodle and force a over shoot. But it definitely worked out for y'all this time and this is really the only preferable way to utilize the ack in a dire defense position.
I remember that for sure.
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if you dont think a persons true character shows thorough in a video game..... especially an online one..... then you are ether blind or foolish....
I state facts.....
sorry if some of you cant handle the truth.
but dont get your panties too tied up.....it cuts off the circulation :old:
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Ink, dude. I've always liked you. Still do. But I think what some see as a character flaw .... isn't necessarily so. I guarantee you my managing to escape with my cartoon plane and pilot intact when handicapped by a PW was probably seen by an opposing pilot as pure panty pee. I'm not all that concerned. There really is more than one challenge in the game. :)
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Ink, dude. I've always liked you. Still do. But I think what some see as a character flaw .... isn't necessarily so. I guarantee you my managing to escape with my cartoon plane and pilot intact when handicapped by a PW was probably seen by an opposing pilot as pure panty pee. I'm not all that concerned. There really is more than one challenge in the game. :)
when did I ever say going home RTB with a PW was a bad thing.... :headscratch:
I am not talking about the guy that leaves lo fuel..lo ammo...or even guys that are into the war aspect of it(and dont engage but hit DAR)....I am talking about the guys that play a combat sim who are dogfighting...lose advantage and run away to friends and ack....who will not no matter what try to over come in a silly game...where no one dies...
people think because I say you are what you are in game and in the real world I am taking the game "too serious" that is completely wrong I am the one that DONT take it serious and play to truly just have fun fighting...live or die it does not matter to me....
the guys who wont fight at a disadvantage or wont even try to overcome bad odds... are the ones who take it too seriously....and I guarantee they live there life the same way they play this game.
it's kind of hard for some people to take advice for getting along in civilized society from someone who had to be removed from it because they didn't get along.
this is why i wouldn't confuse the real world with games.
games aren't mini versions of the real world. they are playtime.. recreation. i tend to think there may be something wrong with people who take them too seriously.
maybe you should actually know what you are talking about before you spout off.
or you could just assume whatever it is that makes you feel better about why my words hurt so.
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You guys think too hard. No one really dies, planes are free. Go ahead and fight. That is the point of playing against other players last I checked.
All this bs about strategy, tactics, resetting the fight, this is how life is etc is just a cover for folks thinking that getting pixilated by someone else in thier cartoon airplane is a reflection on them as real people.
Turn around and fight it out. You might even have fun :aok
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You guys think too hard. No one really dies, planes are free. Go ahead and fight. That is the point of playing against other players last I checked.
All this bs about strategy, tactics, resetting the fight, this is how life is etc is just a cover for folks thinking that getting pixilated by someone else in thier cartoon airplane is a reflection on them as real people.
Turn around and fight it out. You might even have fun :aok
this is exactly what I am saying...I guess I just didn't say it as nice. :o
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You guys think too hard. No one really dies, planes are free. Go ahead and fight. That is the point of playing against other players last I checked.
All this bs about strategy, tactics, resetting the fight, this is how life is etc is just a cover for folks thinking that getting pixilated by someone else in thier cartoon airplane is a reflection on them as real people.
Turn around and fight it out. You might even have fun :aok
I will continue to choose when where and how I die in game if I chose to extend to get separation to reset the fight cause I don't want to turn fight a zeke with my 109 then I will. .I won't play to my opponents strengths and my weakness of that aircraft. ..screw that you want that kill on me earn it. .I'm not going to commit suicide for you
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How bout this....
Instead of "advising" someone else how to play or get into their heads just have "your" fun. You have your fun however you see it, I will have "my fun" however I see it and see that guy over there, yea that guy in the Iron Maiden shirt....let him have "his fun" as he see's it. There now everyone is happy. You guys are like a bunch of religious fanatics trying to convert others to your beliefs.
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How bout this....
Instead of "advising" someone else how to play or get into their heads just have "your" fun. You have your fun however you see it, I will have "my fun" however I see it and see that guy over there, yea that guy in the Iron Maiden shirt....let him have "his fun" as he see's it. There now everyone is happy. You guys are like a bunch of religious fanatics trying to convert others to your beliefs.
note to self. ..MUST KILL PIPZ! ! :D :rofl
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note to self. ..MUST KILL PIPZ! ! :D :rofl
Huzzah!!!!!!!!!! :aok
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Huzzah!!!!!!!!!! :aok
I'll be hunting you down in my fifi! ! PIPZ lol :banana:
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I will continue to choose when where and how I die in game if I chose to extend to get separation to reset the fight cause I don't want to turn fight a zeke with my 109 then I will. .I won't play to my opponents strengths and my weakness of that aircraft. ..screw that you want that kill on me earn it. .I'm not going to commit suicide for you
You are absolutely within your right to play the way you choose. All I'm saying is folks need to quit trying to sell it as something more than it is.
No one really dies meaning no one really commits suicide. You are welcome to use any crutch at your disposal. In the end all Latrobe was really trying to understand is what someone has to lose by actually fighting.
For me there is no real risk in the game as outside of dying from a heart attack in my computer chair, I'll be perfectly fine whether I win the fight or lose it. For me the fun is the fight. But I'm a simple minded sort :)
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You are absolutely within your right to play the way you choose. All I'm saying is folks need to quit trying to sell it as something more than it is.
No one really dies meaning no one really commits suicide. You are welcome to use any crutch at your disposal. In the end all Latrobe was really trying to understand is what someone has to lose by actually fighting.
For me there is no real risk in the game as outside of dying from a heart attack in my computer chair, I'll be perfectly fine whether I win the fight or lose it. For me the fun is the fight. But I'm a simple minded sort :)
now that I can agree with ..never thought of resetting a fight to it can continue as a crutch before but as long as there is fun to be had I'm in :aok
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How bout this....
Instead of "advising" someone else how to play or get into their heads just have "your" fun. You have your fun however you see it, I will have "my fun" however I see it and see that guy over there, yea that guy in the Iron Maiden shirt....let him have "his fun" as he see's it. There now everyone is happy. You guys are like a bunch of religious fanatics trying to convert others to your beliefs.
Dang Pipz, don't bring religion into it!!! Then I'll know your ALL wrong . :x
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if you dont think a persons true character shows thorough in a video game..... especially an online one..... then you are ether blind or foolish....
I state facts.....
sorry if some of you cant handle the truth.
but dont get your panties too tied up.....it cuts off the circulation :old:
perhaps in your case it does INK. you ever think that you try to bully others into playing the way you want? you are a strong guy, so do you call anybody else that backs down from a fist fite with you a coward? I am just saying that because if I remember correctly a couple of years ago you posted about why your family was staying away or you were staying away, dont remember exactly.
You are a stand up guy and I respect you, not because of your strength but because you have a good heart, most of the time. you arent perfect and and I sure as hell not gonna pretend that how I lived my life makes me better than you.
but if you keep saying that how I play this game represents how I live my life just makes me smile. my life is not even close to how I play this game and neither is yours.
people are right that in this game we dont really die, but then again I dont come and play here to die or kill, I come here to have fun with some cool friends I have.
I love to unwind, drink a couple and dont worry about what others think about me. I come here to have fun, my way, not yours. so there it is, hope it doesnt bother ya.
semp
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perhaps in your case it does INK. you ever think that you try to bully others into playing the way you want? you are a strong guy, so do you call anybody else that backs down from a fist fite with you a coward? I am just saying that because if I remember correctly a couple of years ago you posted about why your family was staying away or you were staying away, dont remember exactly.
You are a stand up guy and I respect you, not because of your strength but because you have a good heart, most of the time. you arent perfect and and I sure as hell not gonna pretend that how I lived my life makes me better than you.
but if you keep saying that how I play this game represents how I live my life just makes me smile. my life is not even close to how I play this game and neither is yours.
people are right that in this game we dont really die, but then again I dont come and play here to die or kill, I come here to have fun with some cool friends I have.
I love to unwind, drink a couple and dont worry about what others think about me. I come here to have fun, my way, not yours. so there it is, hope it doesnt bother ya.
semp
how is inks online play bullish. he sound like a stock broker and kills below 10k? now his bbs reminds me of white man cult. :bolt:
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I did yes.... spent 10 years before I was 22 locked up
You must have been an extremely naughty 12 year old :old:
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I wish manned guns had "killshooter" enabled so they wouldnt blindly fire their 5" CV guns into a furball!
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In the AvA, the AAA is usually set to .25 to stop the AA dweeb running. It's like "oh ok, you're diving onto your base. No problem, I'll follow your runstang in my Dora you AAA hugging dweeb."
AAA safety running therefore is pointless. At least in the AvA.
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So what is the mentality behind ack running?
You guys are over thinking this.
The "mentality" is Ahhhhhhh someone is on my 6!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eh wadda I know. I run too enemy ACK. :)
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Ack runners are the guys who go to concerts, stand at the periphery of a mosh pit, and take pot shots at guys who get close and then fade into the crowd when it's time to take a shot himself.
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Fly a Brewster and u will never run. Well, u can but it wont help u...
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I remember a squaddie who not only ran to ack but ran to enemy ack. Tried to trap on the enemy CV, as well. Maybe that's why all the CV skins have goofy chess pieces painted on em now.
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perhaps in your case it does INK. you ever think that you try to bully others into playing the way you want? you are a strong guy, so do you call anybody else that backs down from a fist fite with you a coward? I am just saying that because if I remember correctly a couple of years ago you posted about why your family was staying away or you were staying away, dont remember exactly.
You are a stand up guy and I respect you, not because of your strength but because you have a good heart, most of the time. you arent perfect and and I sure as hell not gonna pretend that how I lived my life makes me better than you.
but if you keep saying that how I play this game represents how I live my life just makes me smile. my life is not even close to how I play this game and neither is yours.
people are right that in this game we dont really die, but then again I dont come and play here to die or kill, I come here to have fun with some cool friends I have.
I love to unwind, drink a couple and dont worry about what others think about me. I come here to have fun, my way, not yours. so there it is, hope it doesnt bother ya.
semp
Bullying......
is that what it is called when someone speaks the truth :headscratch:
if someone is so afraid to die in a cartoon game.... I can't even imagine the yellow that runs down their spine.
if my words sting maybe someone should look inside themselves to find out why they sting..... :aok
or they can just call it bullying does not matter to me in any way.
I never told people why I stayed away from Aces High, well my squadies knew....
nothing major really just dealing with issues with my wife that needed my full attention and Aces High was interfering in that.
You must have been an extremely naughty 12 year old :old:
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you would think that....
except now a days they can not put a kid in jail for what I did....
what was my crime?
runaway....that got me put away for almost 7 years of my juvenile life.
never once did someone ask me...why I was running away....
never once did someone ask me why I would rather sleep on the streets at 8 years old...
or why no matter how many times they sent me back to my "home" would I just run away again...
if you or anyone......can imagine even a tiny bit of what would make a kid do that...then maybe you can understand why I am the way I am.
I pull no punches.... I speak the truth to the best of my ability....even if it means I am not shown in the best light....or admitting when I am wrong....I have no problem doing that....
and semp if I was a "bully" I would PM rage people and be forever screwing with people on 200
NO ONE in ten years can say I have ever Rage PMed them....or bullied them on 200!
if someone starts with me... I will most definitely finish it.
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RUN AWAY!
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ack running is a tactic where a player on the defensive tries to lure enemy fighters into his lethal ack zone. Its really no more of an infestation than any other defensive tactic. AI is in the game, people will use it to their advantage. Always have....always will.
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ack running is a tactic where a player on the defensive tries to lure enemy fighters into his lethal ack zone. Its really no more of an infestation than any other defensive tactic. AI is in the game, people will use it to their advantage. Always have....always will.
People tend not to realize or refuse to that it was done in real life by pilots of all sides.
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ack running is a tactic where a player on the defensive tries to lure enemy fighters into his lethal ack zone. Its really no more of an infestation than any other defensive tactic. AI is in the game, people will use it to their advantage. Always have....always will.
I remember one day running into a guy that had an incredible amount of polish on his ack running game. He would run away as soon as you turned toward him. If you pressed close to his ack at all, he had the timing down to a science to reverse when you had to turn away from the ack or risk getting hit, and he'd get something resembling a shot on you.
Couldn't help but wonder what he might've been able to do if he'd put that amount of thought and effort into ACM.
A lot of people hate to die in the game, right or wrong that's their choice.
If you look at things too narrowly though, you might be missing something else that's going on. A guy running away from you to his ack to drag you away from a goon/bomber for example, or a guy that's pushing you down to keep you off an incoming buff or to set you up for the 3 faster fighters that are behind him. Or, he might not want to engage you and the 3 friendlies behind you just out of icon waiting to pounce on him.
A lot of people fly immensely differently in the MA as opposed to how they fly in scenarios. I use the MA for practice/fun most of the time. In scenarios, I am trying to scientifically murder you however I can. However, a lot of people don't fly scenarios and/or apply the logic I apply in scenario play to their MA play. In other words, not everybody is in the MA to fight fairly.
And then there's those that for whatever reason, will do anything not to die in the game.
Wiley.
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Well posted and best reply in the thread.
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Players who in their B&Z'ers, with 4k Alt on you, and expect you to meekly be a baby seal and die "their way" really make me laugh. Most run like little babies when/if the tables turn and they lose their advantage in numbers or position. We have far to many here worried about what others do. Who cares?
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if someone is so afraid to die in a cartoon game.... I can't even imagine the yellow that runs down their spine.
so if they play video games cowardly that makes them a coward in real life.
i guess then if they play video games very bravely, they must be very brave people in real life.
you don't see how ridiculous that is?
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People tend not to realize or refuse to that it was done in real life by pilots of all sides.
of course it was done in the real world....
but like HTC has said and many here feel.... NOTHING about AH is actually replaying WW2...
its a friggen combat game....run from combat....in a combat game.... :rolleyes:
so if they play video games cowardly that makes them a coward in real life.
i guess then if they play video games very bravely, they must be very brave people in real life.
you don't see how ridiculous that is?
well if the shoe fits
it is those that say there is no such thing as Honor in a game that will be the quickest to run away when they lose advantage.
so let me guess you think Honor is not involved in AH....
rhetorical question.
like I said you are in a mission and have to take out DAR or whatever....dont engage and do your thing...
I am intelligent enough to know the difference between someone like skyrr who will run as soon as he loses advantage..... talks all kinds of smack...... has zero Honor....and other players who are truly just here to have fun....or play the game like it is the real world.
I do not care how anyone flies, it is there game to play the way they wish....
but dont expect me to call a running monkey a Fighting pitbull...
and for my last sentence on the subject
if the truth hurts..... change your reality.
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so if they play video games cowardly that makes them a coward in real life.
i guess then if they play video games very bravely, they must be very brave people in real life.
you don't see how ridiculous that is?
The disconnect with that line of thinking is that it assumes the game means the same thing to everyone.
There are those who think of Aces High as a way to relive the WWII experience, there are those who think of it as a chivalrous way to relive history, and there are those who treat it as simply a game (as well as numerous other mental camps). At the end of the day, however, it is just that - a game.
I like to think of it as the difference between guys who go to Vegas; there are some who like the roulette table, some that like the poker table, and there are some who prefer card-counting at the blackjack table. The roulette guys will likely call out the poker guys and the blackjack guys for "not experiencing" Vegas, while they hoot and holler with friends and "experience the rush" of watching the ball roll around the track. The poker guys will think they're more sophisticated than the roulette guys, and more honorable than the blackjack guys, and still "experiencing" Vegas by playing an iconic Vegas past-time. The card-counting blackjack guys likely don't care about any of it, because they're simply there to win.
All three players are free to play how they want and what they want; however, at the end of the day, you can statistically measure the odds of each one winning. The roulette guy, no matter how much he might win, will still statistically lose on the whole. The poker guy has a better chance of winning, but it requires more discipline and knowing when to fold. The blackjack guy stands to win the most over time, but it also requires a more methodical and precise approach and being satisfied with slow yet steady progressions. It's also harder to become great at it because there's so little room for mistake with little chance for large, instantaneous gains.
The Aces High correlation comes in where the roulette guys (you know who they are) come in and insist that everyone plays there way, telling you all about how fun it is and the "rush" of excitement you experience. What is left out, however, is that you will, on the whole, lose the majority of the time. That is a high-risk mentality. There's more middle of the road guys, our poker-playing correlation, who like to mix it up, but also play conservatively. They tend to ridicule players at any extreme, while failing to be great at any one aspect. Then there's the card counters, the players who systematically go after specific results. They may or may not be good at it, but it's the gameplay they choose.
It's all about different play-styles. People play for different reasons. In the end, it's a game and none of this really happened anyway. I think most people tend to forget that.
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Since Hitech is in the mood over the HQ.
See if he will reduce ack lethality on bases so hiding in it is not possible. The whine fest after that one in here will be incredible or, the numbers in the MA will drop off until AH3 is released.
When we had 3x the numbers in the MA, we had 3x the numbers of those willing to fight. So the Lathrobes and INKs of our game could find willing combatants. The rest they dismissed as hoard, ack huggers, HOers, dweebs and weaklings. But, the average numbers made their fantasy of this game possible due to statistical probability.
Only a very small number of any human group want to fight. The rest depending on their risk and shame tolerance, will look to every other tactic to survive and win before risking it all. You will never shame people into fighting who to begin with, can tolerate the shame of their own actions if, it causes them to survive more often than not by their perceived experience. What you perceive as shame is not what they perceive. Even if it makes you feel like you are somehow a more virtuous person then they are, which feels soooooo good because you can call them cowards.
There is one certainty we all know about this game. In any given moment, if you don't have the skill which most don't. There is zilch chance of surviving by hanging it out there and fighting. And unless you are oriented to begin with as a fighter. All most average players will be doing, is handing themselves up to others as free kills all night long. The majority of average players in this game will never become the same level of competitiveness as the top of our food chain. Or become better fighters by spending all of their time dying.
And it always seems these stupid posts get started by the top of our food chain when the weaklings refuse to play nice and be slaughtered. Once you become the top of the food chain in our game, you become your own worst enemy in terms of finding fun. Everyone knows who you are, what you can do, and it becomes a "been there, done that" I'm not interested in playing with you. I'm paying $14.95 for my short time span of fun tonight, not to feed you.
Then their game becomes one of not feeding you. HOing, ack hugging, running, etc. Having you guys around is like those church softball teams that just happen to have all the members of the local AAA team going to that church. Not everyone in that congregation can ever be a AAA level ball player.
Be happy, at least these guys are willing to keep paying their $14.95 and hug ack every night. How come you guys aren't willing to dive in and root them out? Afraid of dying??
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Indeed, the way you play in a game has nothing to do IRL. Otherwise judging by Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto online gameplays ... we have issues :rofl
Anything online has nothing to do with real life. Facebook, an another great example. If your profile picture is from you in uniform 30 years ago, chances are you haven't done much in the last 30 years with your life and you let yourself go big time. But hey, post a close up profile pic where you look bad bellybutton and a couple of selected pics of you next to other people's cool stuffs or doing universally recognized cool stuff and you are Time's magazine person of the year in other's eyes.
The internet is packed with Pretenders, sometimes only because they can't see them for who they really are. Like that middle guy in a muscle shirt making a fool of himself flirting with a young gal. he forgot about his rounded belly and that his guns are only floppy jelly despite the eagle tattoo. But in his mind with his NRA cap standing by his paper warps filled 90's Corvette, he's the coolest guy he knows. :joystick:
Now ... THAT ... was a rant or what?! :rofl
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so let me guess you think Honor is not involved in AH....
in any game, the only thing i'm concerned with is if people are playing by the rules (not cheating). that's as honorable as you need be as far as i'm concerned.
if i dont like their style of play i might openly call their tactics lame, unskilled, etc.. i dont make judgements about their value as a human being though.
i said in the beginning i actually do play like you when i fly. i don't run, gang, pick or vulch... big deal. it doesn't make me a better person. it doesn't mean anything outside of the game, and what it even means in the game is up for debate.
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I know I said my last post but want to respond to you 2....
in any game, the only thing i'm concerned with is if people are playing by the rules (not cheating). that's as honorable as you need be as far as i'm concerned.
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I can respect that!
Indeed, the way you play in a game has nothing to do IRL. Otherwise judging by Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto online gameplays ... we have issues :rofl
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I look around this world everyday...have seen the depravity of humankind first hand...
we have very serious issues.
anyone who actually does look around... and does not see the issues.....
well there is nothing that I or anyone can say or do to open their eyes. :salute
I responded to you two specifically because I do have respect for both of ya.
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Off course we have issues, big issues mostly created by technology as far as I'm concerned. But can you think of a better time to live in as of now? I mean we live in a country where you still can rise out of nothing and despite race or gender you can amount to someone. That's pretty huge. We did loose a lot in matter of Honor because we lost huge amounts in accountability. But was there ever a time where Honor was only a trait of the few like nowadays anyway?
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of course it was done in the real world....
but like HTC has said and many here feel.... NOTHING about AH is actually replaying WW2...
Using your logic, then ACM shouldn't be used, after all it was used in WW2 and since AH isn't real life, then ACM has no bearing in this game.
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Using your logic, then ACM shouldn't be used, after all it was used in WW2 and since AH isn't real life, then ACM has no bearing in this game.
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come on man you are smarter then that...
I didn't think I would have to explain it to one such as you
Dogfighting is built around BFM/ACM
this is a dogfighting game(among other things)
your "argument" is pointless and futile.
again didn't want to respond on the subject but your post is so asinine had to straighten you out. ;)
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People tend not to realize or refuse to that it was done in real life by pilots of all sides.
And in real life the bullets had no friend or foe discrimination.
So where do you go from here with real life versus game life? Hitech could replace the 3D models for our planes with Pegasus, flying unicorns, small dragons and giant hummingbirds. I bet INK would quit no matter how realistic the physics environment was then.
This game is an approximation by Hitech of an environment. In the end, this post boils down to telling others the way they play the game makes them a coward. It allows the others not a member of said coward group to whine at the cowards for not making themselves available to be slaughtered.
As for you none cowards. Your lack of weaklings to club is your own fault. Live with the realities of wearing your crown. Most average players don't lay awake at night wishing they were you. If anything, to them you constitute a nuisance to them enjoying their game.
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this is a dogfighting game(among other things)
It's the "among other things" you seem to have a problem with.
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Dogfighting tactics also dictate not to engage an opponent if at all possible from a disadvantaged position. Defensive BFM 101. That includes extending and running to fighter/ack cover.
+1 for AKAK, -1 for INK.
Sorry, just had to straighten you out. ;)
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Ok then. I guess that about covers it. Everyone can go back to doing what "they" want to do. Enjoy!..... :D :aok
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If you don't like it when guys reset the fight in the ack, blow up the ack!
I'll chase them through and blow up a gun pit or two on my way through. I get killed lots doing that though.
That said, I run into the ack when necessary.
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Ok then. I guess that about covers it. Everyone can go back to doing what "they" want to do. Enjoy!..... :D :aok
HUZZAH! !
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Dogfighting tactics also dictate not to engage an opponent if at all possible from a disadvantaged position. Defensive BFM 101. That includes extending and running to fighter/ack cover.
But if everyone obeyed that simple rule, there would be no fighting and AH would go belly up real quick. :old:
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But, then many would quit after always being killed, because they like good little lambs, trotted out to the slaughter because our resident supermen have called them cowards.
The whining lamb slaughterers aside, if the lambs do not have any chance of being able to run away or find safe harbor. They will leave our silly game for a game that they believe gives them that chance. That is part of the problem with switching sides at will. Aside from side balancing and maintaining a sense of cohesion for war winners. Not allowing the lamb slaughterers free access to the lambs at will, keeps the lambs in the game. Even if they feel entitled to those lambs cartoon lives because, because, they are supermen of this Hitechian universe. And it's obvious they deserve these lesser mortals lives for all of their superiorness.
It's a species of un sportsman like conduct, the lamb slaughterers claiming victim status due to the lambs hiding in ack. After all, you lamb slaughterers are supposed to be our supermen, as many of you have inferred over the years while casting aspersion on all others not your equals.
I believe the seeds of intolerance has been described here.
Waaaa, Hitech make the badddd lambs let me slaughter them. They are hurting my pride. I'm entitled because I'm a superman in your universe...... :cry
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Sometimes I think of what the Great Rev. Rodney King Jr said "Can't we all just get along"
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Sometimes I think of what the Great Rev. Rodney King Jr said "Can't we all just get along"
You mean like everybody flies bish?