No dar for scenarios, FSO and special events is expected. No DAR In the main arena where most folks are trying to find other human beings to scrap with is just a bad idea.
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Turn all three HQs off for one Friday. Everyone will be on even ground. Spies won't be able to read locations on the map and relay to their handlers, missions won't be so easily intercepted, focus will be shifted more toward communication and coordinated effort. Shoot, make an event out of it! Team with the most bases by the end of the 24hr period, say 0800 US Central time Friday to 0800 Saturday, wins, if the map isn't shifted. Furballers can still furball, there will just be an actual objective behind it. Logging because of HQ being down will be seen as an act of cowardice, as NOBODY will have HQ up. Plan it out about a month and a half in advance, and we might just have record numbers for the year so far in the MA.
Turn all three HQs off for one Friday. Everyone will be on even ground. Spies won't be able to read locations on the map and relay to their handlers, missions won't be so easily intercepted, focus will be shifted more toward communication and coordinated effort. Shoot, make an event out of it! Team with the most bases by the end of the 24hr period, say 0800 US Central time Friday to 0800 Saturday, wins, if the map isn't shifted. Furballers can still furball, there will just be an actual objective behind it. Logging because of HQ being down will be seen as an act of cowardice, as NOBODY will have HQ up. Plan it out about a month and a half in advance, and we might just have record numbers for the year so far in the MA.
Turn all three HQs off for one Friday. Everyone will be on even ground. Spies won't be able to read locations on the map and relay to their handlers, missions won't be so easily intercepted, focus will be shifted more toward communication and coordinated effort. Shoot, make an event out of it! Team with the most bases by the end of the 24hr period, say 0800 US Central time Friday to 0800 Saturday, wins, if the map isn't shifted. Furballers can still furball, there will just be an actual objective behind it. Logging because of HQ being down will be seen as an act of cowardice, as NOBODY will have HQ up. Plan it out about a month and a half in advance, and we might just have record numbers for the year so far in the MA.
The whole point of the radar is to let players find fights. If there's neither bar-dar nor dot-dar, that will be far more difficult. I have to side with the naysayers on this suggestion. Based on my own observation, folks in the Main Arena want to find a fight, not practice their cross-country navigation skills. Over in the Special Events Arenas, organized squads make plans beforehand to coordinate scouting and intel to find the enemy. The MA is a bird of a different feather.I have to disagree with that. YOU use the radar to find fights. Many of us use the radar to see what bases are being attacked. You may think it's the same, but it isn't, otherwise, so many of us wouldn't be taking dar down when we're attacking bases. It's not just about perks, it's about, now you don't know where an attack is coming from. The fight is fun, no doubt, but there's so much more to this game than just dogfighting. Those who just want to do a limited part of the game, shouldn't have the right to make the rest of us "do it your way". This whole attitude of those who ONLY want to dogfight is really making me want to leave the game again. I'm NOT going to do it YOUR way, and the more you try to make me, the more I'm gonna call whiner and do it the OPPOSITE of what you want.
I have to disagree with that. YOU use the radar to find fights. Many of us use the radar to see what bases are being attacked. You may think it's the same, but it isn't, otherwise, so many of us wouldn't be taking dar down when we're attacking bases. It's not just about perks, it's about, now you don't know where an attack is coming from. The fight is fun, no doubt, but there's so much more to this game than just dogfighting. Those who just want to do a limited part of the game, shouldn't have the right to make the rest of us "do it your way". This whole attitude of those who ONLY want to dogfight is really making me want to leave the game again. I'm NOT going to do it YOUR way, and the more you try to make me, the more I'm gonna call whiner and do it the OPPOSITE of what you want.
The whole point of the radar is to let players find fights.
I am a fur-taker.
There is a waxing comment in here somewhere...
And my favorite thing is to oppose the fur-takers. Fur-giver(?) sounds... just wrong somehow.
Wiley.
What do they not understand!?!?!? I can fight buildings offline.no one would find you...
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Those who just want to do a limited part of the game, shouldn't have the right to make the rest of us "do it your way"
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no one would find you...You misunderstand, your idea takes away from player on player interaction...something that would ruin the game for 75%+...your idea is pathetic.
you never know when something goes wrong and the mission fails. Pathetic response.
Manned guns for HQ mandatory vh hanger. Problem solved!
For those players that like to avoid contact and be strategic, I just don't understand why you don't go to the offline and bomb buildings there... Its FREE too.ya well i cant for the life of me figure out why such a selfish driven player like yourself cant ever seem to figure out why fellas like us play to the benifit of the team.
This isnt about "changing the game" or "whinning" it is about why the HQ is causing a problem to the diminishing player base. Like Semp or someone said, might as well fly MS flight Sim if you want to fly around all afternoon and avoid combat.. The graphics are even better too!
The whole point of radar is to be able to use it to find action on the map, be able to defend bases, and to measure the size of the enemy/friendly ratio of planes in that area.
Killing HQ for a day would suck sooo badly. I don't even know how you think this would be a good idea. So many new players wouldn't be able to find any action on the map. War play would be very stale. The argument goes on and on. I could make arguement until I was blue in the face about why we need HQ and radar as part of the game.
Once HQ gets coaded to where more of a team effort has to shut it down, and players kill HQ to actually win the war, instead of ruining everyone's fun with no single point in attacking it, then you will see that we can still use the HQ for exactly its same purpose, instead of doing it out of spite in the off hours. It is the most skillest aspect to the game, yet causes the most grief. Bombing is the easiest thing to do in the game. There is nothing strategic about flying to 29k in a bomber and downing HQ for no reason, while the rest of your team has no interest in capturing bases or using the teamwork to do so.
ya well i cant for the life of me figure out why such a selfish driven player like yourself cant ever seem to figure out why fellas like us play to the benifit of the team.
U think our lights are out when we kill an enemy hq? hell no
Offline???
I beg for someone to stop me when im on a bomb run
For those players that like to avoid contact and be strategic, I just don't understand why you don't go to the offline and bomb buildings there...
The only thing that is selfish is me shooting down your whole squad by myself in a fighter plane.30k buffs show dar and that is what 163's are for.
A VH or manned gun wouldn't matter at HQ against 30K buffs.
Personally, again me being selfish. I just want people to shoot down and fight against. I'd rather you not knock down the FHs or kill the other teams HQ while I'm trying to fight. I don't come here to fly in circles, I come to shoot down enemy planes. If you are in a bomber, I'll come shoot you down. But killing the HQ over and over again is just stupid and does nothing to support the war effort.
I could personally give a rats batootie about 50 perks for winning the war, I have 6,000 already. I come here for fights and air combat, to battle planes in the sky. Avoiding fights and doing everything to prevent players from putting up a fight against me, ruins the idea air combat for me.
I know its apart of the game and its cool that all aspect of war fit into this simulation, but I could personally care less about what bases get taken and which teams win the war.
Turn all three HQs off for one Friday. Everyone will be on even ground. Spies won't be able to read locations on the map and relay to their handlers, missions won't be so easily intercepted, focus will be shifted more toward communication and coordinated effort. Shoot, make an event out of it! Team with the most bases by the end of the 24hr period, say 0800 US Central time Friday to 0800 Saturday, wins, if the map isn't shifted. Furballers can still furball, there will just be an actual objective behind it. Logging because of HQ being down will be seen as an act of cowardice, as NOBODY will have HQ up. Plan it out about a month and a half in advance, and we might just have record numbers for the year so far in the MA.
30k buffs show dar and that is what 163's are for.
what you need to learn is that there is a player base who does care about what you dont inthis game. HTC recognizes this player base which is why you will never get whatyou really want.
I have to disagree with that. YOU use the radar to find fights. Many of us use the radar to see what bases are being attacked. You may think it's the same, but it isn't, otherwise, so many of us wouldn't be taking dar down when we're attacking bases. It's not just about perks, it's about, now you don't know where an attack is coming from. The fight is fun, no doubt, but there's so much more to this game than just dogfighting. Those who just want to do a limited part of the game, shouldn't have the right to make the rest of us "do it your way". This whole attitude of those who ONLY want to dogfight is really making me want to leave the game again. I'm NOT going to do it YOUR way, and the more you try to make me, the more I'm gonna call whiner and do it the OPPOSITE of what you want.
And what is your point? Obviously your way isn't doing anything to the player base but minimizing it. Just because you can game a game doesn't make you right. It is simply a flaw in the system that you can easily get away with which limits the fun for a lot of players. What I want is a system where destroying the HQ is strategic to winning the war, not strategic to cause players to log. Comprendes?HTC created the target and its effects when destroyed. So because players have quit and numbers are low your forum griefing us with your drive by comments while HTC sits back and laughs while your posts get censored??
Spies won't be able to read locations on the map and relay to their handlers
Plan it out about a month and a half in advance, and we might just have record numbers for the year so far in the MA.
HTC created the target and its effects when destroyed. So because players have quit and numbers are low your forum griefing us with your drive by comments while HTC sits back and laughs while your posts get censored??
my point was actualy a comment pertaining to a post previous to that. go back and read it then get back to me
ya well i cant for the life of me figure out why such a selfish driven player like yourself cant ever seem to figure out why fellas like us play to the benifit of the team.
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That's a load of malarkey. Guys who drop HQs accomplish nothing except ruin fun for the players
flying for the country whose HQ got dropped.
Ask the probably 1000 guys who dropped their subscriptions to AH over the past couple of years
how much -they- enjoyed having HQ down.
Guys like you and the squads who do 'em do it so -they- can fly "under cover" so the odds of them
actually having to fight against another plane are lessened.
I can understand hitting strat targets. Those have an impact war-wise. HQs is just griefin' the game
just because you can.
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I drop hq for strategic value
You do crack me up. You go on and keep convincing yourself of that :aok
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I drop hq for strategic value
That's a load of malarkey. Guys who drop HQs accomplish nothing except ruin fun for the players
flying for the country whose HQ got dropped.
Ask the probably 1000 guys who dropped their subscriptions to AH over the past couple of years
how much -they- enjoyed having HQ down.
Guys like you and the squads who do 'em do it so -they- can fly "under cover" so the odds of them
actually having to fight against another plane are lessened.
I can understand hitting strat targets. Those have an impact war-wise. HQs is just griefin' the game
just because you can.
Ah... shouldn't you be looking at K/H not K/D to judge player participation? K/D just cancels out... i.e. fewer K and fewer D gives the same ratio. Or am I missing something?
He meant overall arena kills and deaths
The game is at it's best when there is conflict, and that conflict is at at best when there is an objective at stake.
This is Sig worthy Sir. :aok
Lol not only fighter jocks play for them self they want everyone else to do the same. :bhead is not war thunder what your describing. You do this and you have what we do now with out the big number at login. DONT FORGET ABOUT ALL OF US THE DONT WHINE AND THE GREAT GAME WE HAVE PLAYED FOR SO LONG. :saluteI don't think anyone doubts that the base take mechanism is what spawns fights...but the HQ being down all the time was the issue for finding those fights. Even with the HQ up, you have to look for where the horde is going next.
Hitech, you should put one Free for all arena and one Team death match arena on small maps like smog 8 and another good FFA map in the online game choice. Limit these 2 arenas to 16-20 players. That way people can do what ever they want with no scores attached. They could still win the TDM war but it would reset the same map. Also, you can keep the other arenas as well. It wouldn't take too many away from the MA, but it would give the furballsers, small map players, and limited time players to have some quick fun!
Ergo the AvA with about 20 players at the most, occasionally, packed close together because they choose to play that way some times. The quick action, no where to run concept with the Aces High player base is self limiting by a predictable percentage of personality spread. It's only ever a small dedicated percentage following in games to your kind of masochism.
Faster combat is not what the majority wants in our game, or they would all be in the DA or AvA slaughtering each other. They want the comfort of their friends and lower odds that you Demon, and others like you won't harvest them every time they turn around. The vast majority of customers do not play the game for the fix you want. Ergo custom arenas.
Most pay for an evening of an illusion of winning their personal version of combat in the game while keeping their kester as safe as possible at all times. You are the anomaly, they pay the light bill.
ask yourself hypothetically, if there was a single building target on a map that would completely shut down all the aircraft and vehicles for a country, would you go bomb that target? if yes, you're part of the problem.
i suspect the typical hq hero would jump at the chance.
ask yourself hypothetically, if there was a single building target on a map that would completely shut down all the aircraft and vehicles for a country, would you go bomb that target? if yes, you're part of the problem.
i suspect the typical hq hero would jump at the chance.
ask yourself hypothetically, if there was a single building target on a map that would completely shut down all the aircraft and vehicles for a country, would you go bomb that target? if yes, you're part of the problem.
i suspect the typical hq hero would jump at the chance.
Yes, yes I would.
maybe htc really should try a one country setup after all. no enemies to worry about.
You didn't seem to have a problem with me hitting the HQ that one time. You and someone else in 163's intercepted my set of lanc's (there were 2 or 3 other guys with me on this raid, but scattered after attacking it). Your buddy compressed, and I took out one of your 30mm's. PM'ed you bout whether you were making another video or not that day. This was before the lanc was updated, which was the last time I attacked an HQ.
You asked a silly question, to which I respond honestly. You then cut out most of my response so you can whine about my answer? :headscratch:
Can I have some of what you are drinking?
oh i dont have a problem with hitting hq in general (when there's the chance of actual combat).. i was talking about my hypothetical target that would eliminate any opposition at all. that would be a very strange type of gameplay for a combat game, but i think there are people who would actually like it.
Ah. Then to re-answer your question: No. I was thinking there would be SOMETHING left to do, but to completely eliminate everything on the opposing side, poo to that. Believe or not, I don't mind being intercepted. :) Preferably after I've hit my target, for maximum damage. :D
watchu want?
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I'll take one shot of everything, though likely I won't make it past the 5th shot. :o :cheers:
Turn all three HQs off for one Friday. Everyone will be on even ground. Spies won't be able to read locations on the map and relay to their handlers, missions won't be so easily intercepted, focus will be shifted more toward communication and coordinated effort. Shoot, make an event out of it! Team with the most bases by the end of the 24hr period, say 0800 US Central time Friday to 0800 Saturday, wins, if the map isn't shifted. Furballers can still furball, there will just be an actual objective behind it. Logging because of HQ being down will be seen as an act of cowardice, as NOBODY will have HQ up. Plan it out about a month and a half in advance, and we might just have record numbers for the year so far in the MA.
Weren't you one of the frequent HQ bombers, or am I mistaken? Ironic, if so.
Weren't you one of the frequent HQ bombers, or am I mistaken? Ironic, if so.
Longer hanger downtown times!!! THATS JUST WHAT WE NEED!!!
I mean who really wants to actually fly and play the game anyway? I know sitting in the tower is just exhilarating, especially when they kill our FHs and the next closest base is 35 miles away!! That just makes my AH playing time just so much fun!!
How do you expect the Rooks and Knights to be able to take a base when the Bish up so many defenders that it takes 20 minutes to knock them all down and the hangars are only down 15?The current down times have worked since I started playing in 2006-07. It's the ability to up 20 P51 with full ord out of one airfield at once that is the problem...if any at all.
Taking down the bish HQ isn't going to slow the attack down at all. Radar isn't important when they are on the attack. More often than not they horde up and NOE each base they want. Either that or with a big horde they just roll a base as attrition is unimportant. No your time would be better spent taking out ords along the front and the ords strat. No bombs force them into cannon birds. 110's and such flown by guys who regularly lawndart make much easier prey.These days taking down the strats, is actually pretty important to normal front line porking. I think that is one area HTC did a great job at, it was the connection between the HQ and the city which was not working with the added minutes which they already took off.
Killing HQ is for attacks only. It for guys who like to fly at 10k but have the advantage of an NOE.
How do you expect the Rooks and Knights to be able to take a base when the Bish up so many defenders that it takes 20 minutes to knock them all down and the hangars are only down 15?
Yeah that works against Knights just fine. As soon as a Bish base flashes the Wirbles multiply and the uppers scramble.
IDK man, I personally think the bish are the worst fighter team in the game. They are good at GVs and bombers. That's about it. Besides a few good players who hang around. But if you use that strategy I posted above, you will have a much easier time taking bases. 90% of the time a base doesn't get captured is because they didn't kill the VH first and they wasted the rest of their bombs on the FHs instead of the town. Heck, I wish more bish would up most of the time so I could get a fight in but a lot of times I wind up flying to an empty base...I look for planes to fight and y'all want no fight. So situation is different I guess lol. But I do know how to capture bases.
Oh well cycles come and go.
You are so funny, there is not a bit of difference in game play because of the chess piece you call yourself. :rolleyes: