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Title: Patch 75
Post by: Skuzzy on September 16, 2015, 02:28:53 PM
New patch up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,374891.0.html)!

Cloudy, with a chance of bombing!
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 16, 2015, 03:02:54 PM
Under ten minutes offline with everything but clutter enabled. Screen goes black, then rapidly flashes black and white until I ctrl-alt-del and end the alpha.exe.

Clutter off driving around FPS 40-51. Clutter on, 30's.
Tower - 30s
Hanger - 22-27

Never got around to flying. I'll test that knowing I have under ten minutes for the error.

Oh, post lighting off and environment slider at "0". 50's in the tower, 35 in the hanger.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 16, 2015, 03:43:40 PM
No problems with patch.

Rear windows in tower show a giant clock reflection. 
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 16, 2015, 03:55:51 PM
Latest tweeks do not like my memory speed at 1330Mhz. Had to reduce to 1290Mhz.

Tested clouds offline and discovered this. Once I reduced memory speed a freezup upon entering clouds stopped.

CM Gods eye view in clouds.

Post lighting on - FPS 28-44
Lighting off - FPS 28-56
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 16, 2015, 03:59:48 PM
Flying B17 mission offline.

Default settings with no EM.

Solo away from formation 95 FPS
In formation                     37-41 FPS
Formation under attack      10-11 FPS
Formation under attack with post light off 12-14 FPS

No clouds yet. Will test later.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 16, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Flying B17 mission offline.

Default settings with no EM.

Solo away from formation 95 FPS
In formation                     37-41 FPS
Formation under attack      10-11 FPS
Formation under attack with post light off 12-14 FPS

No clouds yet. Will test later.
Did you test online?

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 16, 2015, 04:30:51 PM
Can a player queue up the B17 mission online on demand or do you have to wait for it to cycle around?

I was in the P51B mission and the P38J vs 190A8 with everything enabled but clutter. FPS stayed in the 40's.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 16, 2015, 04:49:49 PM
Can a player queue up the B17 mission online on demand or do you have to wait for it to cycle around?

I was in the P51B mission and the P38J vs 190A8 with everything enabled but clutter. FPS stayed in the 40's.

Ill change the schedual so only that mission is running.

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 16, 2015, 05:54:07 PM
Waaaaa I was in a 262 lining up on a B17 and got disconnected. Someone took down the arena...waaaaaaaaaaaa. FPS was in high 40-50 over cloud layers defaults on.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 16, 2015, 07:18:13 PM
When the Euro arena opened joined the mission in a 262 again, defaults on, clutter disabled. First time my flight got to see the bombers at a distance, were were warped back to our starting point. Never really found the bombers again. FPS above clouds in the upper 40-50. Flew in the clouds FPS 22-40. I'll have to grab a different ride and fly the mission again so I'm in the first intercept groups.

Going auto level in an AI mission is a sickening vertigo inducing wiggle waggle. Blech phoohy......
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: 715 on September 16, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
My experience with Patch 75 is below but I doubt it will be useful.

Like Patches 73 and 74, the Sheep and the Europe terrains in Patch 75 hard crash my machine very quickly (black screen and then reboot).  Offline they crash sometimes a mere second after first rendering the terrain, so I doubt it is a temperature issue.  Online, for some bizarre reason, they often last a few minutes or so before crashing.

The ndisles terrain does not (often) crash my machine unless I drive a Jeep through a corn field.  That crashes the computer reproducibly.  Other fields don't do that, including the tomato plants.   Unfortunately I couldn't find any clouds in ndisles and the mission arena (also ndisle terrain) didn't have a B17 mission when I tested, so I can't say what effect clouds have on my fps.

I have to say that (up until the computer crashes) the alpha looks really, really good and my frame rate is good now that I've switched from SSAA to adaptive MSAA.

E8400 @ 3GHz, 4GB RAM, Radeon HD7870 w 2G, WinXP 32bit, DX9.0c, 1920x1080, 4K textures, everything max except Environment 0 and Post Lighting disabled.

PS: are those Windows crash reports that pop up on reboot of any use?

Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 16, 2015, 09:31:08 PM
Did you test online?

HiTech

Didn't have time before work. I looked for clouds online then ran the B-17 mission offline.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 16, 2015, 09:36:05 PM
Defaults enabled, clutter off.

1024 Mode

Got back in the Euro arena mission several times by exiting and going back in. All but the last time I got a B17. Gunnery was no problem inside of the mass bomber stream. FPS 30s-40s. One time when I came back in it was to a parachute stuck looking down with only the clipboard and .45cals red sighting dot. I floated down from about 20k looking at 20 other chutes. My FPS looking down at them was in the beginning 18. By about 5k it dropped to 2 and never recovered.

I finally got in a 152 with a large group of interceptors. Above and below the cloud layer FPS 40's-50's. In the cloud layer center 22-27. FPS was good enough I killed 5 bombers and bagged 2 P51 before landing.

A very immersive experience. I hope future tweeks increase FPS while inside of clouds at least into the 30's for my video card. A toggle to reset your session so that the mission offers the yes\no window to join back in would be nice. Possibly with a choice of sides and rides. This is like FSO but with one very important difference. Quicker to engage and more sustained action with massive numbers of planes on both sides. Having the Icons show out to about 10k really helps find the enemy.

Too bad we don't have all the period Japanese plane set to really do the flying tigers on this scale yet. With the period plane sets filled out, could even start missions from the Spanish Civil war and pre BoB WWII with French and Polish fighters. Even WWI with a broader plane set. Only the imagination of the terrain and mission builder along with missing rides can limit this. The AvA guys are gonna have missiongasims.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: 715 on September 16, 2015, 11:52:03 PM
Tried to edit my post but apparently it's too late.

This evening I was able to get into an online B17 mission and fly through clouds.  To do that I had to leave the main flight.  In external F3 view looking at my bomber from behind while flying through, below, and above clouds the frame rate was 60.  In the cockpit it was about 45.  During the fight back in the pack with the many other B17s and 109s and 110s my frame rate was between 40 and 20 depending on where I looked (this wasn't in the clouds).  20 is low but then that's a lot of B17s (and I had shadows on).

I noticed that I could fly the whole mission without the alpha crashing my machine.  At the end of the mission I went off on my own and dropped down in altitude.  When I got close enough to the ground that trees were rendered at fairly high detail my system crashed.  I tried turning off ground clutter to see if that was causing my reboot crashes when on the ground but that didn't help.  Staying near the ground for any length of time in the Europe terrain crashes my machine.

Then I set Tree Detail to minimum.  I could drive around Europe in a Jeep offline (something that immediately crashes my system with Tree Detail set at max) as long as I didn't get close enough to a tree that it rendered in high detail.  If I did, the alpha immediately crashed.  There must be some particular tree in the Europe and Sheep terrains that my system doesn't like to render in high detail ;)

E8400 @ 3GHz, 4GB RAM, Radeon HD7870 w 2G, WinXP 32bit, DX9.0c, 1920x1080, 4K textures, everything max except Environment 0 and Post Lighting disabled.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Bruv119 on September 17, 2015, 01:04:52 AM
my machine was choking a little with the last set of clouds so looking forward to testing it when I get back home later. 
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JimmyC on September 17, 2015, 03:30:09 AM
Hi ,
went on a B17 raid to the heart of the Ruhr..
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss38_zpsovpqkdbq.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss38_zpsovpqkdbq.png.html)
never went through clouds but they where about

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss39_zpsfe09vxhz.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss39_zpsfe09vxhz.png.html)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss40_zpserp5pijo.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss40_zpserp5pijo.png.html)

have to say when the enemy fighters turned up..it all got a bit warpy..i killed 3 but that was more luck then anything..the fighters looked stationary and then warpy..maybe its early days..

then game crashed 10 to 15mins into mission..

frame rate, as in pics..half my usual 60...eveything was turned up to max though so no complaints.
never flew through clouds only close to..online.

P38 over channel..lovely clouds, flew all over / through..great 60 fr..

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss37_zpsgxiq09gw.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss37_zpsgxiq09gw.png.html)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss32_zpsop5cxuvb.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss32_zpsop5cxuvb.png.html)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss33_zpswtraua3j.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss33_zpswtraua3j.png.html)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss34_zpszwy6gbbi.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss34_zpszwy6gbbi.png.html)

only thing I noticed when in clouds, and it may be a trackerir thing but each cloud tile seemed to rotate, kalidascopicly almost,
moving the head to side to side and they rotate..looks a bit odd..

any way. hope some of this helps

<<S>> good show old beans
carry on, what  :salute

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JMD413 on September 17, 2015, 10:33:38 AM
Clouds look great!  Flew yesterday and maintained about 60 FPS even with the clouds and many planes in the sky.  There were only about 4 people on so most of the planes were AI.  Also had some fun in a 262.  Older card here, GTX 660 Ti 2GB.

Coming along nicely, keep up the great work!   :aok
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 17, 2015, 11:06:47 AM
The film viewer crashes with films from this patch. Older films play.

Joined mission in progress, was able to keep flying after mission ended. Pulled to tower for start of next mission.
Next mission got dumped before I found the bombers.

Flying through clouds in P-38 FPS 50-75, mostly around 60. Default settings, no EM.

Saw the sun glare and cloud shadows on the ocean.  :aok


Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 17, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
This may have been mentioned already, but when transitioning from Level Auto Pilot to Climb Auto Pilot, the P&ID takes for ever to settle down. It seems you porpoise for ever. :joystick:

I was flying a TA152.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Bruv119 on September 17, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
Flying through the crowd hit my FPS by about 15 on average as much as 20 in some views. 

The mission pretty much killed it with the amount of aircraft so hard to say how much the cloud was effecting it will have to run it again when baby ack settles down.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 17, 2015, 02:48:31 PM
About the same slide show against 60 bombers packed together as in AH2 with that many. I do better with 20-30 spread out a little.

At the moment just too many disco from udp\tcp going on. Hitech says he thinks its a bug and is working on it in the Euro arena.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Waffle,

With post lighting enabled, the ceiling lamp just in front of the screen in the briefing room whites out the white briefing text.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 17, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
At the moment just too many disco from udp\tcp going on. Hitech says he thinks its a bug and is working on it in the Euro arena.

I believe this should be fixed.

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Chilli on September 17, 2015, 04:35:37 PM
During the briefing, the top of the projector screen is washed out, like the projector light is reflecting off it.  Cannot read the top half of the briefing notes.  This started with this patch.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Ratsy on September 17, 2015, 04:49:44 PM
Next mission got dumped before I found the bombers.

I was in a B17 during this mission.  I shot down a G14.  I was back in the scope about 15 second before bomb drop and also experienced this (mission) crash.

Impressions:
1.  The clouds from the bomb sight/bomb-aimer position were blindingly bright.
2.  The AI aircraft were lurching quite a bit.  The G14, on the other hand, was flying formation with my drones in the high 5 o'clock position.
3.  Overall the mission was stunning until the crash.
4.  Frame rate was a mostly constant 65.

 :salute
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: NatCigg on September 17, 2015, 08:24:56 PM
capture the flag arena. 6k base in se corner of map ne of hq. the steep slope off the mountain by the field melts like a acid trip (ive seen movies  ;) ). looks like the terrain is altering but the objects/trees are not.  shadows randomly scatter about 1024, like a constant twitch. see film.

mission. joined with about 15 to go. was sent to b-17 as bombs were being dropped. 59 fpm in tail gun looking at nothing, looking at target down to 26.  the buildings at target have a black flashing scattered about on them.  bombers dropped on one area, looked cool but not smart.

cm eye mode. 59 fpm out of clouds a little drop above them. about low thirtys in them, with a low of 26. looks nice.

 :salute
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Greebo on September 18, 2015, 04:34:30 AM
I built a test weather file using the cloud editor. This has ten cloud banks in close proximity at 10K altitude, each bank with a different cloud type, plus an overcast layer at 15K. The idea being to run the file in the alpha and take screenshots of each of the cloud types.

When I did this I noticed an issue with the clouds in the game. They look fine while I am below the overcast layer but as soon as I climb above it all of the cloud banks vanish. I can still see their shadows on the ground, but I have to drop below the overcast to see the clouds themselves.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Easyscor on September 18, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Crashing (jpg included) 8876-086c

You'll probably tell me my Cat driver is out of date.

The crash occurs when you go to quit or alternately re-enter the game, so two different manifestations for the same bug. By the time I wrote this one up, I'd forgotten how to reproduce the second version where I could manage to exit the game, but it crashed on relaunch the next time.

Fresh boot into Win7 64
Launch Alpha into Offline
(then all from the Tower)
Go into Graphics Detail
Toggle any of the Check Boxes except Disable Shadows (turning them OFF) and see the same error message occur in a pair at a time.
When toggling Shadows back ON, the error message occurs the same as toggling any other check boxes.

When moving any of the sliders, a screen full of the error message appears.

When you back out and click Quit, the program hangs until you Ctrl Alt Del, and then it will quit to the desktop with the Task Manager up.
At this point, you can relaunch the game okay.

I've forgotten the way I found around the lockup, but then the alpha would crash the next time I launched.



Edit: Oh, and that's ndisles



Also, in the Additional Information: you might think about a note in the Alpha patch announcements that once you create a cmepos.txt file, CMEye will throw you to that location until you delete or replace the file. That's handy information to have.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: MADe on September 18, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
tried for a cloud test today.

immediate loss of udp and tcp seemed not to take hand off. Screen did not fully load upon multiple tries, loss of udp every time.
approx. 1:15pm est
fov 115
text 2048
all defaults enabled
enviro map update none.
all NVidia profile options either disabled, performance or use 3d app settings selected

I was able to fly a b17 mission briefly, load the euro map as well as all other maps, yesterday, 25fps with b17's. no clouds AI drones seem jittery, looks they are waiting location adjustments from server. no graphics anomalies. 1GB ave vram used.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 18, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
I took the lead Me262 aircraft in the B17 mission and the system message was "FLS is now your wingman".

When I look at cloud shadows on the ground I keep seeing them as forest first then shadows.

No disco's since the first one.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 18, 2015, 04:25:33 PM
When I look at cloud shadows on the ground I keep seeing them as forest first then shadows.

Do you mean that the cloud shadow looks like a forest to you?

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 18, 2015, 05:44:19 PM
Testing differences between 1024 and 2048 with my card in the Euro Mission.

HD6770
GDDR5 1G
128bit
BW 80Gbyte sec. OC'd to 85
Shaders 800

1024 gave the best FPS results in general. 2048 kept having screen freezes and stutters until I reduced BW to 82Gbyte sec. GPU and Memory clocks were too high, but, 1024 didn't have those issues. I'll leave the BW at 82. In 2048 mode I never ran out of video memory of the 1010M detected by the game.

2048 gave me great local eyecandy but, dropped my FPS into the 20's when my G14 gaggle got within 7000yds of 20 loosely packed B17. 1024 mode my FPS stayed in the 30's under the same conditions but, diving into the larger closely packed B17 groups 40 or more, a slide show. 1024 mode as a gunner inside the same huge B17 pack my FPS 17-40's depending on what I looked at.

Both 1024 and 2048 had a similar issue. If I was within 7-8k of a large group of parachutes and their icons, looking down at them with the ground behind them. All clutter turned off, my FPS dropped to 7 and would lock the screen at 2.

Oh can you put gondolas on the G14 since they are being used as bomber interceptors. B17's are tough.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 18, 2015, 06:37:37 PM
Do you mean that the cloud shadow looks like a forest to you?

HiTech

Yes.  It's only from higher altitudes, at lower levels it only looks like shadows. Part of it is the rectangular outline, the rest may just be a reminder of terrains that combined color with tree models. 
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Pudgie on September 18, 2015, 08:16:03 PM
D'ld Patch 75 a couple of nights back & installed w/o a hitch.

Went in Alpha this evening & joined a B17 mission..........1st time EVER at the helm of 1 of these!
Had a very hard time trying to stay in formation so I slowly fell out of my slot & drifted behind but the saving grace for me was that I wasn't the worst B17 pilot....musta impressed\confounded the Luftwaffe as when they attacked the formation somehow thru all that I was never hit..............not 1 time!  :D
The only bomber stuff I could guess was the key to open the bomb doors so I could drop my bombs.....don't have a clue of what I was releasing them on or I was aiming at as I didn't know how to bring up the bomb sight but they sounded cool as they dropped...........I know, soo rookie of me............. :x  I eventually bailed out as by then the main formation was so far out in front I wasn't EVEN going to catch up....................

Clouds looked good as I flew thru them w/ FPS holding in the 35-46 range w/ the bomber formation filling the windscreen w/o 1 stutter occurring thruout the duration of my flight time. Once we flew out of the clouds as long as I was viewing the formation thru the front windshield the FPS stayed between 42-47, but if I looked anywhere else except thru the forward views (10 thru 2) the FPS went back up to the more normal 59-60 w/ FPS swings down to 50-55 when at 10 o'clock or 2 o'clock positions (would get part of the main formation in the viewing area thus the FPS slowdowns). Here is a snippet of my box's Fury X vitals while flying thru this mission:

(http://s16.postimg.org/ypf2rrl8h/AMD_R9_Fury_X_Alpha_Patch75_B17_Flight_9_18_15.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ypf2rrl8h/)

This is w/ Cat 15.7.1 WHQL drivers only (no CCC...deleted it & have no profile for Alpha set up in Radeon Pro) in default settings w/ all Alpha slider settings set full right, EM slider set @ 2, all graphics features checkboxes unchecked except "disable other plane's skins" & "disable ground clutter when in flight" & all checkboxes checked in left flip up panel.

Now I did think that the lighting reflections effects were kinda high when looking out of my left windscreen down the left wing as they seemed to blind you a little due to what seemed to me excessive glare.........but I also can't say what it should be like as I haven't been in a B17 at all, much less at 24,000'.............

It's looking better folks!

Was kinda wondering if this Fury X would hold her own.........feeling MUCH better 'bout this now............    :aok

So far it appears to me from a lot of testing on my set up & the performance thru this mission that the AMD CCC software may be interfering w/ the game graphics calls to the GPU causing extra GPU cycling for minimal to no graphical image gain & affecting actual performance some whereas Radeon Pro is not affecting the GPU at all due to me not setting up a profile for the Alpha so Radeon Pro is completely out of the way so the graphics settings & rendering calls made by the Alpha are getting thru to the GPU virtually clean as there is no interface software (such as CCC) to "skew" them............

Back to "work".................... :old:

 :salute

Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: MachNix on September 18, 2015, 08:25:10 PM
Rivers not rendering properly when viewed from altitude.
Finishing up a bomber mission on the eur2015 terrain and still up around 24,000 feet, the river had some parts blue with other parts a grey-green color without any detail.  The blue and grey-green color would move along the river as the view move forward with the bomber.
Image: p75_river_24k.jpg
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: NatCigg on September 18, 2015, 10:12:19 PM
Rivers not rendering properly when viewed from altitude.
Finishing up a bomber mission on the eur2015 terrain and still up around 24,000 feet, the river had some parts blue with other parts a grey-green color without any detail.  The blue and grey-green color would move along the river as the view move forward with the bomber.
Image: p75_river_24k.jpg

when you take cm eye mode to the roof and come back down the rivers seemed to show anomalies and beach in place of blue
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Easyscor on September 19, 2015, 06:36:00 AM
-190854,932,41331,0.0,-26.9,-35.4
eur2015
FOV = 50.5


JPEG
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 19, 2015, 01:24:18 PM
Just finished with Mission in Europe Arena, flying a TA152. Was on the deck with multiple P38's and other TA152's, Frame rate dropped from 60 to 11 and bounced from there to 18 and back. :joystick:
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 21, 2015, 06:04:02 PM
Game updated normally.

Upon first run of the game on hitting the quit button the first time the game mouse freezes and the windows mouse appears, moves but is otherwise non-functional. Starting the task manager killed the game without actually getting to tell it to. Subsequent offline starts and stops worked normally.

Offline flying around I'm getting a steady 59-60 FR but with intermittent black flashes. Temps OK no apparent rhyme or reason. A flash here a flash there. Perhaps flash is a poor choice of words as it's black but it's as if it's skipped a frame here and there.

Went online. Tried every map but the tower is all blue and looking out the window all I can see is the horizon fog and blue sky above and below the horizon. Attaching a screenie. Went back offline and this doesn't happen.

Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 21, 2015, 07:48:26 PM
Further. When I click on the clipboard map I can grab the map and move it around. I can zoom it in and out. But I can't move to any other field. Stuck at A1. The quit button on the map works but none of the others do. Tooltips do display with the dark diamondplate background.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 21, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
Just wanted to chime in, updated today and confirmed what Drano is talking about.  I tried to get into the online arenas, got the blue same as he shows.  I went offline thinking maybe it was something to do with the europe map, but it loaded fine.  I went back into the online arenas, and the blue graphics went away, but I still couldn't switch fields.  It also said lost UDP and switching to TCP every time I went into the europe arena.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: WWhiskey on September 21, 2015, 11:04:30 PM
Didn't have a lot of time but flew around offline for a while today,, moved all the drones to GVs and couldn't find them from the air?
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Chilli on September 22, 2015, 05:32:48 AM
Just wanted to chime in, updated today and confirmed what Drano is talking about.  I tried to get into the online arenas, got the blue same as he shows.  I went offline thinking maybe it was something to do with the europe map, but it loaded fine.  I went back into the online arenas, and the blue graphics went away, but I still couldn't switch fields.  It also said lost UDP and switching to TCP every time I went into the europe arena.

Wiley.

Today, for the first time, I had the same freeze upon logging into mission arena.  I had adjusted my network adapter speed so figured it was on my end, but now with others seeing the same thing, and Main Arena AH2 working well, I am not sure.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 22, 2015, 09:23:13 AM
Today, for the first time, I had the same freeze upon logging into mission arena.  I had adjusted my network adapter speed so figured it was on my end, but now with others seeing the same thing, and Main Arena AH2 working well, I am not sure.

What arena, and was it a clean entry or did you exit an arena and enter a different one? Or exting off line?

HiTech

Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 22, 2015, 10:01:09 AM
I haven't had problems online but I did lock up once after exiting an offline mission. Next time offline I exited normally but I had a white line going through the windows that I don't usually see. The line moves with TIR head movement.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 10:09:13 AM
Didn't get the white line this time but have reported it before. Might not have gotten far enough!

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2015, 11:28:05 AM
What arena, and was it a clean entry or did you exit an arena and enter a different one? Or exting off line?

HiTech

On my end, the sequence was:

-Start game.
-Enter Europe server.
-Download terrain.
-Weird blueness, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Enter Mission server.
-Weird blueness, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Switched offline terrain to europe2015.
-Opened fine, full functionality, graphics looked fine.
-Flew around a bit.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Enter Europe server.
-Graphics looked correct, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Closed program.
-Opened program.
-Went straight into Europe server.
-Weird blue graphics, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Wife ack resulted in switching to another task.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Chilli on September 22, 2015, 11:55:56 AM
On my end, the sequence was:

-Start game.
-Enter Europe server.
-Download terrain.
-Weird blueness, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Enter Mission server.
-Weird blueness, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Switched offline terrain to europe2015.
-Opened fine, full functionality, graphics looked fine.
-Flew around a bit.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Enter Europe server.
-Graphics looked correct, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Closed program.
-Opened program.
-Went straight into Europe server.
-Weird blue graphics, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Wife ack resulted in switching to another task.

Wiley.

Like Wiley, and I can't recall which arena failed, but I tested a few hours ago, and was able to successfully join a mission in the Mission Arena.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2015, 12:09:10 PM
One other tidbit-  By "not being able to do much of anything", I couldn't go into hangar, couldn't go into O'club.  Could get into settings, or other stuff that only happens on the clipboard.  It just seemed anything that switches locations in the game from the tower didn't work.

One other tidbit- I recently went from an ATI 5770 to an R9 380, but I deleted video8.cfg and redid my video settings before the above sequence.  That was the only thing I did with this game though.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 22, 2015, 01:57:06 PM
Have uninstalled and reinstalled the alpha yet since the new video card? Did you do the same thing with your AMD video drivers?
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 02:01:07 PM
I have similar issues Bustr and all I did was upgrade the version as I have all the others. Funny it works offline fine but online is no go.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 22, 2015, 03:18:11 PM
Mine is a mid range 6000 series and I'm using "14.12 AMD Catalyst" drivers. I don't get the flashes of black screen flickers if I keep my ram speed below 1300Mhz and insure very good cooling. At 80-87C I've seen that flickering offline testing the clouds but, my ram speed was above 1300. I'm not sure which AMD drivers Hitech is developing the alpha against when he tests for our problems. You might also turn of AMD Tessellation since what I read appears like it has to specifically be written for to leverage it. I picked up a few FPS when I turned it off.

The alpha seems to run my card hot even with OC turned off. I've had to build a fan bank into the case to keep the temp in the 70'sC during heavy activity.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: BowHTR on September 22, 2015, 03:36:30 PM
On my end, the sequence was:

-Start game.
-Enter Europe server.
-Download terrain.
-Weird blueness, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Enter Mission server.
-Weird blueness, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Switched offline terrain to europe2015.
-Opened fine, full functionality, graphics looked fine.
-Flew around a bit.
-Hit Quit on clipboard.
-Enter Europe server.
-Graphics looked correct, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Closed program.
-Opened program.
-Went straight into Europe server.
-Weird blue graphics, inability to switch fields or do much of anything, TCP/UDP message.
-Wife ack resulted in switching to another task.

Wiley.

Had the same problem with the blueish graphics and inability to do anything.

Was flying in the Capture the flag arena, got a lost UDP. Had to Alt F4 out. Brought alpha back up and re-enterd Capture the flag arena, and got the weird graphics. Tried leaving and going into the mission arena, and had the same graphics problem.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
Have uninstalled and reinstalled the alpha yet since the new video card? Did you do the same thing with your AMD video drivers?

Didn't uninstall/reinstall the alpha, but did uninstall/reinstall graphics drivers.  I got the card a little while ago, it appeared to run the alpha ok at that point, but I think that was before a lot of the post stuff came in.  I will try a reinstall of the alpha first and assess, if no change I will redo my drivers again and see.

What's a good free driver cleaner, folks?

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 22, 2015, 04:02:32 PM
http://www.guru3d.com/content_page/guru3d_driver_sweeper.html

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 04:03:28 PM
I like DDU

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2015, 04:08:43 PM
Obliged.  I have not switched cards in an existing machine since driver cleaners became more of a thing, and I have been a bit leery of freeware as far as what's good and what's malware these days.  I will try the alpha client first, then drivers.  Actually just for grins I think I will try a reboot first.  It's been a while and I've been playing some fairly graphic intensive new games lately.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 04:11:30 PM
FWIW I hadn't changed a thing either hardware or software or settings between versions.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: 10thmd on September 22, 2015, 05:46:40 PM
I had the same issues as Wiley when I tried to log into the Europe online server. Ran fine offline but it would not connect online for some reason.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bacon8tr on September 22, 2015, 06:48:48 PM
1845 CDT.  I have the same issue across all four arenas.  Can log in.  All that is visible is the tower glass.  The rest of the screen is a blue gray color. 
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 06:58:18 PM
Ok here's what I did to get proper display online.

I went online to see if maybe it was something that reset itself. It didn't. Still had all blue stuck in tower. Same deal with the buttons.

Went offline. It's fine. Loaded the beta2 terrain. It loaded up fine. Quit.

Try online. Europe terrain. It loads normally. But..... While I was typing this I lost host connection.

Try another online login.... Back to the blue!

Go offline. Load ndisles. Loads normally. Quit.

Back online. Try mission arena. Loads normally. Queue time has short quick buzz saw pattern. Switched to TCP. Lost host connection in a little over a minute.

Will try this a few more times.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 07:01:46 PM
Just tried the same switching to another terrain (waffle) offline then going online to that capture the flag arena. Short net stat spike, TCP, lost host conx.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 07:03:05 PM
Trying two times in a row online gives the blue tower.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 22, 2015, 07:05:04 PM
Just going from offline to online gives blue tower. Switching terrains offline does the trick with the display in the tower when going back online. No clue why the connection is dropping.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drane on September 22, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
Online all arenas get odd display in tower and connection switches to TCP. Can't seem to do anything in the menu except "Quit". Eventually get the "Host connection lost" message. Screenshot attached.

Offline seems to work ok.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JimmyC on September 22, 2015, 08:38:46 PM
logged in to Europe online..20 seconds later switch to TCP
then cant select field or hgr
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss43_zpsaohc5iga.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss43_zpsaohc5iga.png.html)

same missions
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/ahss44_zpsgyd4g0sr.png) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/lowerbrook/media/ahss44_zpsgyd4g0sr.png.html)

Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 22, 2015, 09:22:51 PM
Changed nothing, at ~10:15 EST logged into Mission arena, same behavior.  Rebooted.  Tried to log in at 10:20 EST.  Mission and Europe showing closed, trying to get into either of the other two arenas crashes the game.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 22, 2015, 10:19:42 PM
Forgot to mention when I flew the B-17 mission online I saw the same FPS as offline.  75 away from bombers dropping to 11 near bombers with fighters attacking and a skyfull of tracers. Default settings, no EM.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drane on September 23, 2015, 04:44:10 AM
All online arenas work fine on my Windows Vista 64 pc.

Post lighting enabled overbright condition in some game screens still exists for this pc. I believe it's due to AMD not supporting win vista any more and having to use 2013 version of video driver.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drane on September 23, 2015, 05:00:59 AM
Online all arenas get odd display in tower and connection switches to TCP. Can't seem to do anything in the menu except "Quit". Eventually get the "Host connection lost" message. Screenshot attached.

Offline seems to work ok.

Update:    All online arenas work for me now. (win 8.1 pro 64)
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 23, 2015, 09:18:22 AM
The blue screen is simply that your client has not received the fog settings yet and should not cause any issues.It should swap to normal after about 2 - 3 secs. For next release I set the default ones to something better.

Any more info on the TCP drop I am interested in.

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Drano on September 23, 2015, 09:27:23 AM
All I can tell ya about the TCP thing is it consistently happens each time I try online no matter the arena. But it does seem to happen after a few seconds. Maybe a 10 count.

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Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 23, 2015, 09:38:29 AM
This morning I was able to successfully log into the mission arena and fly a b17.  I had no issues, didn't see a TCP drop, was able to exit successfully.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JMD413 on September 23, 2015, 09:39:39 AM
My screen looks the same as JimmyC.  I also get the TCP message.  Not sure if it is worth mentioning, but when you go to select an arena I no longer see the locked arena that is "Filling a slot". 
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: ebfd11 on September 23, 2015, 11:54:04 AM
When I d/l the patch from 74 to 75 I got a lot of items it said it failed to update... should have taken a screenie. Then I did a total uninstall and re-install I exited out of the europe arena and the scrfeen stayed as I was in the tower and then came crashed to desk-top. Is there anyone else who experienced this??

LawnDart
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 23, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
Ran the gauntlet today, all arenas with no problem except for offline. in Offline, upon bailing and before I could ".ef" the game CTD.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Chilli on September 23, 2015, 02:48:35 PM
Auto update worked fine for me lawndart.  I did have problem today with populating a mission in the mission arena.  When I double clicked to select my position the pop up, said that I was not in the arena.  It worked okay later on.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: bustr on September 23, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
Joined the Euro mission today, everything fine. Flew the length of the cloud front inside of it in steal the flag, everything fine.

If the cloud density was reduced a bit, I doubt many would notice, and it might give back some FPS while chasing around after someone in them. Turning off post lighting and the environment slider to 0 doesn't improve FPS once you are inside of them.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: NatCigg on September 23, 2015, 06:56:59 PM
took off in loaded f6f from port on south side capture the flag.  Plane did not make it and stall crash into water after take off. screen goes black and constant ground rub sound (almost like tires but not sure.) game still working i must hit enter twice to stop to end flight. red crosshair shows up. .ef end flight all is fine.  Try with less ords or no ords and try to recreate but will not, i crash.  at worst i could see underwater line for a sec before tower.  full ords and try again and get black screen.  one time i tried pulling gear flaps and everything with stall and AH# stopped working and lost mouse, tab close program, start again, get message ai crashed your plane.  did it some more and quit to come here. exited fine and opened fire fox, cant find server.  wait, wait, reload firefox and go to AH bookmark.

 :salute
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: JMD413 on September 23, 2015, 07:48:05 PM
My screen looks the same as JimmyC.  I also get the TCP message.  Not sure if it is worth mentioning, but when you go to select an arena I no longer see the locked arena that is "Filling a slot". 
  I just tried it now and was able to load the game and fly a mission.  No changes on my end.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 24, 2015, 07:54:55 AM
For reference, looking straight up at the sky, framerate is ~300.  In or near clouds, framerate is 80-120ish depending how close I am.  Actually going through them it's around 80.

A behavior issue I've noticed, the only way to join a mission in progress is to exit and reenter the arena.  Trying to join a mission in progress through "Populate Mission" gives a rtn -6, flightindex -1 error.  Once I've gotten that error, I cannot move fields, cannot access the hangar/Oclub and so forth.

If I am in tower, if I turn my head with TrackIR, there seems to be a series of straight, bright lines moving across the ground as I turn my head.  They look like they might be reflection related.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: hitech on September 24, 2015, 08:44:05 AM


A behavior issue I've noticed, the only way to join a mission in progress is to exit and reenter the arena.  Trying to join a mission in progress through "Populate Mission" gives a rtn -6, flightindex -1 error.  Once I've gotten that error, I cannot move fields, cannot access the hangar/Oclub and so forth.

If you died, you must first unassign yourself. Was this the issue?

HiTech
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 24, 2015, 09:30:43 AM
No, I tried unassigning myself with still no ability to select a plane and join.  One possibility-  The checkmarks, do they indicate a plane that's available, or unavailable?  I thought I tried both after I unassigned myself, but might have tried only one or the other.

Another behavior I just remembered, at one point I attempted to choose a 262 in the beginning of the Europe mission and it still launched me into a G14.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: FLS on September 24, 2015, 09:55:49 AM
When the mission starts the available aircraft are assigned to AI. The aircraft without an AI assigned on the populate screen have been shot down. Select an assigned aircraft to take it over from the AI.
Title: Re: Patch 75
Post by: Wiley on September 24, 2015, 10:07:48 AM
Good to know.  I am pretty sure I tried both showing with an AI and without after I unassigned myself, but will confirm tonight.

Wiley.