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Title: A tactical quiz
Post by: Lusche on October 04, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/quiz2_zpsa2qyl3k8.jpg)

A darbar slowly moving from east to west, at a pace of approximately 6 minutes per sector towars the end (somewhat slower before that)
A25 alarm never gets triggered, no dot dar.
Refinery only starts to flash shortly after the darbar entered that sector.

What area would you take your Me 163 to in the sector south of 21 to look for... something?  :old:
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: FLS on October 04, 2015, 02:51:37 PM
I spy with my little eye...    :aok
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: USCH on October 04, 2015, 02:54:10 PM
9-5-3  and I would have found him earlier....  :banana:

But if I waited until you say to roll, 8-5-3 and watch for damage at the fuel factory, if none comes assume its inbound for the ammo, if it stops flashing assume he went south to lose himself off the map.

 If he is really smart he went north, made you go south, and makes a N-S run on the ammo...
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Wizz on October 04, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
I would climb SW towards Ammo up to 45k and glide until contact somewhere in a Ammo/HQ triangle. If I make contact I would delay my attack runs only to disrupt the bomb run :D
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Wizz on October 04, 2015, 03:11:35 PM
I would climb SW towards Ammo up to 45k and glide until contact somewhere in a Ammo/HQ triangle. If I make contact I would delay my attack runs only to disrupt the bomb run :D
Hey Lusche would you do more of these please :salute
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: 715 on October 04, 2015, 03:42:56 PM

A darbar slowly moving from east to west, at a pace of approximately 6 minutes per sector towars the end (somewhat slower before that)

That implies a set of bombers climbing to alt.

A25 alarm never gets triggered, no dot dar.
Refinery only starts to flash shortly after the darbar entered that sector.

That means the bombers are at the bottom of the map and the refinery is not their target (are refineries ever anyones target?).

What area would you take your Me 163 to in the sector south of 21 to look for... something?  :old:

I personally wouldn't bother since I don't know how to kill bombers in a Me163 (or anything for that matter), but if I did I'd fly to between 7,5,9 and 7,5,6 to look for high alt bombers.

These are fun... do more :)
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: SPKmes on October 04, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
I would run up and down the bottom half of the 8'5/9'5 sector line

I would run the whole line but mainly the bottom half is what I where I expect it
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: MK-84 on October 04, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
I would go right to the corner where your "?" is
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Wizz on October 04, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
The Snailman for President USA 16'
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Lusche on October 04, 2015, 06:40:47 PM
Most of you were about right. I found the Lancs in the general area of the '?', heading directly to the ammo factory (a target much more likely than the refinery). While disposing them, I spotted another set of buffs almost on deck more to the south, Arados. I managed to get one of them, too.
A short time later another set of Lancs  tried almost the same route, but this time they bailed when I got into range. All players were members of the same squad.

But then, we are all wrong, because such a reasoning is obviously not allowed in Aces High:

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/quiz%20solution_zpsjlm0oejw.jpg)
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: USCH on October 04, 2015, 06:58:17 PM
A troll!  :bhead damned you snail  :furious ..... Ya, lots of sloppy players in the game, you know by telling them tricks like this one or two might read it and get better....

Timing the bar is a nice trick, I'm going to exploit that for sure...
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: FLS on October 04, 2015, 07:00:08 PM

But then, we are all wrong, because such a reasoning is obviously not allowed in Aces High:

Not so fast Snail.

I spy with my little eye...    :aok
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Lusche on October 04, 2015, 07:07:23 PM
Not so fast Snail.

?
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: FLS on October 04, 2015, 08:05:46 PM
?

Spies!   :D
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: NatCigg on October 04, 2015, 08:15:53 PM
Most do not know town radar reaches the same distance as field radar.  Meaning town can flash if a pilot is skirting a radar ring.  This gives a knowlegeable player the ability to pin point a sneaky enemy. 

Good work snail man, again.  :airplane:
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: JimmyC on October 04, 2015, 08:32:09 PM
zoney hits it bang on the noggin I recon 
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: earl1937 on October 05, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/quiz2_zpsa2qyl3k8.jpg)

A darbar slowly moving from east to west, at a pace of approximately 6 minutes per sector towars the end (somewhat slower before that)
A25 alarm never gets triggered, no dot dar.
Refinery only starts to flash shortly after the darbar entered that sector.

What area would you take your Me 163 to in the sector south of 21 to look for... something?  :old:
:airplane: Snailman, You are priceless to this game! WTG <>S>........being the novice I am in a fighter, considering I don't have but one eye, of course that is all you need to aim with, I think I would have launched from the nearest base to our strat and climbed to altitude and waited on him....a lot of good answers though, it is interesting to see other players reacting to this kind of problem....if you have time, post some more, its good exercise for me and all the guys.
How about a hint on your deflection shots I see you taking and scoring kills with! Does your angle of bank and the con's angle of bank dictate how much to lead him? Does the speed that you are at when you fire at him change the amount of lead on the target?
BTW, the Rooks and myself appreciate you helping with our missions of late, it has certainly helped out many times, <S>
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Bino on October 05, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
As Snail has so often demonstrated, quite a bit of information can be gleaned from the dar-bar.  :aok
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: waystin2 on October 05, 2015, 11:44:42 AM
Lol Snail.  Well done Sir. :aok
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Wiley on October 05, 2015, 11:49:43 AM
As Snail has so often demonstrated, quite a bit of information can be gleaned from the dar-bar.  :aok

Yup.  Playing this way kind of reminds me of that old Mastermind board game.  The bardar/bases flashing or not flashing gives you a lot of information about where they aren't, quite often leaving a very limited area in the sector where they could be.  Assuming you know which direction they're headed, you can wait for them where they're likely to come.

In the scenario for the OP, I'dve headed for the question mark.  Then I likely would've missed their dots, saw them move to the next sector, started to head that way, run out of gas, and gotten one half decent pass on the first set before having to deadstick home.

Wiley.
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: stealth on October 09, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
Give me more I need more of these. :joystick:
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Slade on October 09, 2015, 05:11:33 AM
Great post - yes plz keep them coming.   :salute
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: bozon on October 09, 2015, 07:36:12 AM
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/quiz2_zpsa2qyl3k8.jpg)

A darbar slowly moving from east to west, at a pace of approximately 6 minutes per sector towars the end (somewhat slower before that)
A25 alarm never gets triggered, no dot dar.
Refinery only starts to flash shortly after the darbar entered that sector.

What area would you take your Me 163 to in the sector south of 21 to look for... something?  :old:
Easy answer!
I'd take a mosquito VI and go look for a big red bar up north.
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Latrobe on October 09, 2015, 12:59:55 PM
Snail finally shows us how he spies without a second account. I always wondered how he did it, the little cheater!   :devil :cheers:
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Changeup on October 09, 2015, 07:49:36 PM
I would orbit at 6000 and wait until their bored, fighter cover comes down and then kill them. 


They always come down.  hehe
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: icepac on October 09, 2015, 07:49:57 PM
I can fly a me163 10 sectors so I would just wait a few more seconds for a little more information to show up.

I find guys who left the map 10 sectors earlier........but my bullets do nothing out there.
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Bruv119 on October 10, 2015, 02:06:28 AM
hows the car going snail?  does it pass lawful emissions tests??    :rofl
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Zimme83 on October 10, 2015, 02:34:45 AM
Pretty much everything is very predictable in the game. "i havent seen that cv in a while, should be halfway to AXX by now" *Upping bombers and finds CV halfway to AXX...
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: macdp51 on October 10, 2015, 08:56:11 AM
The snail knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't!

By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is ( whichever is greater), it obtains a difference or deviation.

The guidance system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the snail from a position where it wasn't to where it now is. Consequently, the position where it was is now the position where it isn't.

In the event that the position where it is now is not the position where it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation (variations are caused by external factors, and the discussions of these factors is not considered to be within the scope of this report). The variation being the difference between where the snail is and where the snail wasn't. If variations are considered to be a significant factor, it, too, may be corrected for by the use of another system. However, for this to take place, the snail must know where it was, also.

The "thought process" of the snail is as follows: because a variation has modified some of the information which the snail has obtained, it is not sure where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't! (within reason) and it knows damn sure where it was and also where it wasn't. It now subtracts where it should be from from where it wasn't (or vice versa) and by differentiating this with the algebraic difference between where it shouldn't be and where it was , it is able to obtain the difference between its deviastions and its variations, which is called the ERROR SIGNAL. Perfectly Clear how he does it ! 
:cheers:
 :salute
HP51
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: 49Dallas on October 10, 2015, 12:48:20 PM
The snail knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't!

By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is ( whichever is greater), it obtains a difference or deviation.

The guidance system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the snail from a position where it wasn't to where it now is. Consequently, the position where it was is now the position where it isn't.

In the event that the position where it is now is not the position where it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation (variations are caused by external factors, and the discussions of these factors is not considered to be within the scope of this report). The variation being the difference between where the snail is and where the snail wasn't. If variations are considered to be a significant factor, it, too, may be corrected for by the use of another system. However, for this to take place, the snail must know where it was, also.

The "thought process" of the snail is as follows: because a variation has modified some of the information which the snail has obtained, it is not sure where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't! (within reason) and it knows damn sure where it was and also where it wasn't. It now subtracts where it should be from from where it wasn't (or vice versa) and by differentiating this with the algebraic difference between where it shouldn't be and where it was , it is able to obtain the difference between its deviastions and its variations, which is called the ERROR SIGNAL. Perfectly Clear how he does it ! 
:cheers:
 :salute
HP51
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*head explodes

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Nice thread Snailman! I would've climbed towards the ammo strat and hovered around 7/5/6 -8/5/4 waiting for the con to flash the ammo strat while looking for him. After he crossed into 7/5 I would've waited 30 seconds for him to start flashing the ammo or I would assume he's going 7/5/9 to the HQ. My thinking is that nobody hits the refinery, It doesn't do anything(worthwhile). Although I would've watched the refinary percent to see if it was being hit. Could be a jabo getting points/achievements. My answer really depends on when you upped. I assume you upped when the refinery was flashing?
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Meatwad on October 10, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
So what kind of company car DO you have? (Since apparently they think you have one)  :D
Title: Re: A tactical quiz
Post by: Scca on October 12, 2015, 03:22:52 PM
The snail knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't!

By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is ( whichever is greater), it obtains a difference or deviation.

The guidance system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the snail from a position where it wasn't to where it now is. Consequently, the position where it was is now the position where it isn't.

In the event that the position where it is now is not the position where it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation (variations are caused by external factors, and the discussions of these factors is not considered to be within the scope of this report). The variation being the difference between where the snail is and where the snail wasn't. If variations are considered to be a significant factor, it, too, may be corrected for by the use of another system. However, for this to take place, the snail must know where it was, also.

The "thought process" of the snail is as follows: because a variation has modified some of the information which the snail has obtained, it is not sure where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't! (within reason) and it knows damn sure where it was and also where it wasn't. It now subtracts where it should be from from where it wasn't (or vice versa) and by differentiating this with the algebraic difference between where it shouldn't be and where it was , it is able to obtain the difference between its deviastions and its variations, which is called the ERROR SIGNAL. Perfectly Clear how he does it ! 
:cheers:
 :salute
HP51
Although you think you understood what I said, what you heard is not what I meant.