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Title: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Slade on October 13, 2015, 11:20:31 AM
...but why in the world would anyone do that!

It has guns, it can fly, it even has wheels to be able to land with.  What else do you need?

It really is THE air superiority fighter of WWII.


That has to be why those that win high score each month dont use it as their primary ride.  It would be overkill.

 :bolt:

Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: darkzking on October 14, 2015, 02:21:40 AM
Sorry man the p40 is amazing but the p39 is best plane
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: caldera on October 14, 2015, 05:57:09 AM
P-40 whacking material:


(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/AH%20screenshots/p40-1.png~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/AH%20screenshots/p40-1.png.html)
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Zimme83 on October 14, 2015, 08:12:05 AM
P-40F > !09F

(http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae169/_zimme_/P-40.png)
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Karnak on October 14, 2015, 09:00:13 AM
It has guns, it can fly, it even has wheels to be able to land with.  What else do you need?
A second engine.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Crash Orange on October 17, 2015, 03:49:58 AM
...but why in the world would anyone do that!

It has guns, it can fly, it even has wheels to be able to land with.  What else do you need?

It really is THE air superiority fighter of WWII.


That has to be why those that win high score each month dont use it as their primary ride.  It would be overkill.

 :bolt:

I hate to be the one to tell you, but the definition of "overkill" is not "being killed over and over and over."  :P
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Latrobe on October 17, 2015, 06:48:05 AM
P-40F > !09F

(http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae169/_zimme_/P-40.png)

That 109 wasn't using a yellow nose skin, that's why he died.  :)
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Scca on October 20, 2015, 08:04:43 AM
Last week on squad night, the AK's did a P-40 fighter sweep.  Not a bad bird really...
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Slade on October 20, 2015, 11:18:58 AM
The P-40 is on FIRE I tell ya!

I feel sorry for the enemy when flying it.  :rock
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Muzzy on October 20, 2015, 11:22:52 AM
Rather than repeatedly praising, how about posting a guide for the P 40 in help and training? For that matter, why not do one for the P 39? I dare you to be useful.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: caldera on October 20, 2015, 12:56:02 PM
Guide to Flying a P-40  :airplane:

1.  Go to Hangar.  Switch from Favorites to Fighters because it sure won't be found in the former.
2.  Fly P-40.  While climbing out, feel free to finish some chores around the house. 
3.  Encounter random enemy uber plane 10k over your head.  Dodge repeated high speed passes, making a fool of said enemy.
4.  Other enemies in area notice your P-40 icon and abandon ganging a better plane, in order to gang you.
5.  Continue dodging high speed passes, as some will pass right by you and into the ground.  Trees are your friends.
6.  Your inevitable trip to the tower is accompanied by an unsolicited PM, regarding your suckage.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Mister Fork on October 20, 2015, 04:25:27 PM
Guide to Flying a P-40  :airplane:

1.  Go to Hangar.  Switch from Favorites to Fighters because it sure won't be found in the former.
2.  Fly P-40.  While climbing out, feel free to finish some chores around the house. 
3.  Encounter random enemy uber plane 10k over your head.  Dodge repeated high speed passes, making a fool of said enemy.
4.  Other enemies in area notice your P-40 icon and abandon ganging a better plane, in order to gang you.
5.  Continue dodging high speed passes, as some will pass right by you and into the ground.  Trees are your friends.
6.  Your inevitable trip to the tower is accompanied by an unsolicited PM, regarding your suckage.
:rofl

My experience with a P40 is usually in the AvA.
1. Up P40 from airfield.
2. Fly towards IJN CV
3. Fly under the swarm of Zero's
4. Extend and try to reverse under the fire of CV AAA
5. Return to tower after being lambasted by a 5" AA shell that exploded 1 meter above cockpit.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Zimme83 on October 20, 2015, 10:54:51 PM
The P-40 has som major disadvantages in AH:
-Really bad climb performance (and acceleration)
-High wing loading
-Low top speed.

Quite a lot of the faster planes can outturn the P-40 plus also holding their E better. If facing an opponent that can Outrun, outturn and outclimb your plane it will be hard to win. It can run from the slowest turn fighters but thats pretty much all.

Best way to be succesful is to join the furball late and BnZ low and slow opponents, disengage and climb back up. Keeping E is vital.

It is really frustrating to not having any strenght to use against your opponent but on the other hand, if you want to be sure that you win because of your superior skills as a pilot, fly the P-40. The plane will not save your *ss when your screw up.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Slade on October 22, 2015, 05:21:10 AM
Quote
Rather than repeatedly praising, how about posting a guide for the P 40 in help and training?

Actually part of the reason I post things like this is to keep a spark going as we wait for the next version.  :aok

Silly I know.  Actually I have more kills so far in a P-40 than any other plane this month.  You want a guide.  Hmmmm...


Class dismissed!  I could say more but it would be less.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 22, 2015, 07:54:30 AM
My best advice.

1. Get to 15K or higher before you enter a fight or base.

2. BnZ. Never waste all of your energy in one pass. If you miss the target pull up, gain separation and alt, then head back into the fighting zone. Only re-engage immediately if there are no other cons around.

3. Never stick around a fight, low, if there are more than 2 bad guys. They will catch you and they will gang you. Uppers will catch you. You need to stay on the outskirts of the fights and keep your alt.

4. Fly with friendlies. They will clear the 8 cons gaining on you as you plan to escape the enemy base. Trust me, they will help keep you alive.

5. If you see high 190s or other high BnZ planes, do your complete best to stay out of their range. All it takes is for that one high guy to dive on you and cause you to get ganged by the 6 others behind you.

6. You need advanced SA and defense ACM skills in order to kill opponents and not get picked or ganged. Learning defensive ACM will keep you alive much longer and also help you create kills. Just don't get too deep in enemy territory low N slow if you know other cons are on the way.

7. Fly her smoothly.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: JVboob on October 26, 2015, 12:29:29 AM
In my experience it turns pretty well when it has E ( small window of carnage)  1-2 turns then extend. It will turn with more planes than you think.

SA is a must for several reasons. I prefer the E It has good guns it turns and thats about it.... perk points are almost always high espically with everyone in uber 5eny planes all the time.

I miss the Wep and the pony flaps the E use to have before it was updated.
Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Zimme83 on October 27, 2015, 03:39:27 AM
P-40 had excellent high speed turn performance but are a bit hampered by the blackout modeling in the game. It turns well as long as it have enough E but its rarely enough to win the fight. If the con just dodge the first BnZ attempts he will have a rather easy job to reverse the E status and suck the P-40 into a turn or energy fight, and the P-40 suck at both.





Title: Re: You Can Fly Something Besides a P-40...
Post by: Slade on October 27, 2015, 05:38:13 AM
If you need to fly tentative or careful the P-40 is not for you.  SA is key.    You do need to mix it up though.  Sure you might get a lucky B-n-Z but I dont count on that either.

The P-40n's roll rate is great!  Visibility best of the plane set too (except for nose over view F best there).

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SA is not just limited to an immediate hostile area when in flight.  Think of it also when choosing a plane\target.  For me I consider the map, radar activity, enemy reports on country channel etc..  Then what would be fun and effective but not stupid perky to fly in that environment.

I'll choose a plane that I think is barely good enough for my skill set to get a kill in and no better.  Much of the time thats a P-40!

Using the SA described, the P-40 is not a plane to fly into a horde.  The F4u1-c can be fun there.  I use that to knowingly fly into hordes and no win situations.  :rock
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