General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: ONTOS on October 19, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
Title: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: ONTOS on October 19, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
Since the Il-2 used PTAB anti tank bomblets (carried 200 of them), I wish they could be added. From what I have read, they were small but effective.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: cobia38 on October 19, 2015, 11:16:42 AM
ohhh i can just hear the bomb**** tears now :D
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: bustr on October 19, 2015, 01:43:12 PM
If you didn't get your self commander mode skeet shot out of the sky, the attack run was very low so the PTABs wouldn't end up all over the place. From the short clip below, we would see a small number of Il2 hero's flying NOE to carpet vulch runways for the 200 whine factor.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: ONTOS on October 20, 2015, 01:21:35 PM
The Il's had them. It should be available. Thank you.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: bustr on October 20, 2015, 01:53:42 PM
Some humans have more webbing between their fingers and toes but we don't have UDT frogmen either. You should target Hitech with your imperious demands while holding your breath until you turn purple.
Here I will help:
Dear Mr. Hitech,
shilo demands PTAB for the Il2 or he will hold his breath in protest.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: ONTOS on October 20, 2015, 04:41:56 PM
There's no reason to be ugly Bustr. I'm just wishing like everyone else. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 21, 2015, 02:15:22 AM
It would be nice if in the next version we have more of an ordnance option for planes like the PTAB for the IL2, or the M29 for US planes and the Butterfly Bomb for Axis planes.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: bustr on October 21, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
I understand the attraction for the PTAB as a mass low level carpet munitions against GV and vulching runways. In all of these years we have never seemed to get Hitech to comment on them let alone introduce them. The other two are anti-personnel sub-munitions. So is the plan to salt our own map rooms with these and put an end to troops capturing things?
I suppose if he ever introduces FPS ground combat, we will have to check under our seats and all the bush's around every town and spawn for bomb surprises left by the kiddies. Then we just fly around salting the heck out of every thing with Butter Fly bombs and M29 versus doing any air combat. Will the sub-munitions go off and tower them instantly, or will two guys have to drag their one legged body back to a pickup point?
Just remember, the kiddies will want bouncing bettys and other leave and forget nastiness after they spawn into a field of sub-munitions we dropped from the air.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 21, 2015, 04:47:58 PM
I understand the attraction for the PTAB as a mass low level carpet munitions against GV and vulching runways. In all of these years we have never seemed to get Hitech to comment on them let alone introduce them. The other two are anti-personnel sub-munitions. So is the plan to salt our own map rooms with these and put an end to troops capturing things?
I suppose if he ever introduces FPS ground combat, we will have to check under our seats and all the bush's around every town and spawn for bomb surprises left by the kiddies. Then we just fly around salting the heck out of every thing with Butter Fly bombs and M29 versus doing any air combat. Will the sub-munitions go off and tower them instantly, or will two guys have to drag their one legged body back to a pickup point?
Just remember, the kiddies will want bouncing bettys and other leave and forget nastiness after they spawn into a field of sub-munitions we dropped from the air.
The M29 and Butterfly Bombs were also used against unarmored and lightly armored vehicles, not just as anti-personnel bombs.
Why are you against adding more ordnance options for our planes?
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: Tilt on October 21, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
It could be argued the the PTAB made the Il2 the tank killer it was..........
Just as the Merlin made the P51D.......
Both essential components to their effectiveness.......
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: bustr on October 21, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
PTAB is whenever Hiech decides he wants to put up with it and the whines. Anti personnel munitions and anything IED like has a worldwide stigma with countries still loosing people to them. In the same vein as nukes, not sure Hitech would want that stigma. This game seems to steer a fine line when it comes to how we look blowing things up. I've always gotten the impression Hitech has a line he will not cross.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: lyric1 on October 21, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: bustr on October 22, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
I've read the same account translated on other sites talking about IL2 and PTAB.
In our game the PTAB would become the counter to getting too close to tanks and wirbles. Dive bomb from 3000-5000ft with a package of how ever many gets released with each drop. Odds are one will drop in the wirbel turret or onto a tank. Then fly away without ever risking anything. Much easier than aiming a single larger bomb or the very inaccurate rockets. And you still have your 37mm's for 2-3 more GV after several passes of that.
This could result in the same complaints from GVers before the icon range was shortened and they got the commander mode. Back then tanks from the T34 and lesser were rolling ducks for an Il2's 37mm. Now if the PTAB was also updated to at least one Yak version, carpet bombing runway spawns would become a new sport. You can barely see any Yak zooming through the bushes when it hides it's icon. A new way for Airjer to harass CV groups. That Yak would become a super rapid response killer for base defense against GV.
I can see a mass fun mission where a whole squad fly's IL2 in formation over a wirbel infested GV base releasing PTABs like rain. Ch200 would get lively.....
200: Unhappy They P'd on us again. What was Hitech thinking this time....... 200: bustr blame ack ack, he convinced Hitech it would be gooood for us hehehehehe 200: Unhappy why don't you fly down here like a man 200: bustr wirbles hurt and owwwie my plane 200: Unhappy COWARD 200: bustr PTAB ALERT ;-P
Just remember, Il-2 could carry up to 192. Hey the Po-2 could carry PTAB. Now that would be one way to spot GV in CraterMA.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: BuckShot on October 22, 2015, 08:34:24 PM
That sounds like fun! Yes please. PTAB for all Russian planes that carried them.
Perked ords?
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: MrKrabs on October 22, 2015, 08:46:11 PM
There's no reason to be ugly Bustr. I'm just wishing like everyone else. Have a nice day.
He's not ugly... He's old...
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: Chris79 on October 22, 2015, 11:02:23 PM
The Yak carried them as well? I wonder if you could shower a formation of Buffs with Ptabs?
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: save on October 23, 2015, 08:00:21 AM
Fw190a8 had a similar cluster bomb.
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: ghi on October 23, 2015, 09:30:19 AM
:D :banana: F3 :banana: :D
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: bustr on October 23, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Germany had a full compliment of PTAB like bombs and delivery containers. If PTAB and Abwurfbehälter AB get introduced, our GVers may well go to another game. An FW just needs to get some alt off the opposite side of the field from the enemy spawn, then poop a cluster from a safe alt against GV's. Or a single Yak doing an Airjer impersonation out of the bushes. I'm beginning to see the reemergence of guys doing this with a box of Lancs. GV's do have a strong effect these days in field assaults while a number of those players have learned to turn the front of their tank into my IL2 as I pull the trigger.
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Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: Zimme83 on October 24, 2015, 09:34:13 PM
Would it be any different from diving in a Tu-2 and drop a 1 ton bomb? You dont need to be that accurate to blow up a tank. Rather see an Il-2 w anti tank bombs than a set of suicide lancs carpet bombing...
Title: Re: Ordnance for the Il-2
Post by: lyric1 on October 24, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Would it be any different from diving in a Tu-2 and drop a 1 ton bomb? You dont need to be that accurate to blow up a tank. Rather see an Il-2 w anti tank bombs than a set of suicide lancs carpet bombing...