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Title: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Squads are the organizing force in Aces High.

I am working to get the next scenario "Southern Conquest" filled up.  Also, the axis side needs a Commanding Officer.

Can you please help me by playing in it and helping to recruit?

Scenarios are a blast.  If you haven't played in one yet, please give it a try.  If you have played in FSO's, they are like that.

Southern Conquest is a fight through Malta, North Africa, Sicily, and up the boot of Italy.  It has plenty of various action for fighter pilots, and for bomber pilots it has strategic bombing, tactical bombing, and antishipping (including fleets of merchant ships that aren't available in the Main Arena).

The allied side is filling up decently.  The axis side needs another 25 players, including the group that flies FW 190A-5's in the final frame against B-24's.

If your squad can play in it, please sign up.  If your squad can't, can you help me find squads that are willing to fly in it?

A lot of work goes into these scenarios, and the power of squads can help get them filled for the action to come.

Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide. <S>!
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 12:35:27 PM
Registration is here:

http://ahevents.org/scenario-registration.html

Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 05:57:45 PM
Are there any squads out there willing to give it a try?
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: LilMak on January 05, 2016, 07:15:15 PM
Normally I'd be all over it. But I can't give you guys the effort it requires this time around. I'll pass the word on to my crew though. i may be able to sneak in as a walk-on for a frame but that's it.

For those that are reading this and are on the fence. Scenerios are where it's at. There is nothing more fun and emersive. I never really got into them till about a year or so ago. Wish I had been involved long ago. It's probably as close as you can come to being a fighter pilot in the war. 
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 05, 2016, 07:36:41 PM
Thank you very much, LilMak!

That is very gracious of you, and I do hope that you can fly in it as a walkon.  The scenario is richer with you in it.  :aok
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: shotgunneeley on January 05, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
Yep, the immersion and rich detail of the historical/scenario matchups drives me far more than the MA ever will.

Pretty sure work is going to give me the axe for two weekends or I'd volunteer to build the HE-111 bomber group, but it remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Mongoose on January 06, 2016, 10:04:51 AM
 Unfortunately, my schedule simply doesn't work with the schedule you for scenarios otherwise I would be there. I do thank you for the tiny put in and hopefully we can join you sometime in the future.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: JunkyII on January 06, 2016, 11:13:51 AM
Yep, the immersion and rich detail of the historical/scenario matchups drives me far more than the MA ever will.

Pretty sure work is going to give me the axe for two weekends or I'd volunteer to build the HE-111 bomber group, but it remains to be seen.
Special Events don't do it for me other then KOTH...people fly more timid in the SEA.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: ROC on January 06, 2016, 12:38:57 PM
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Special Events don't do it for me other then KOTH...people fly more timid in the SEA.
Yep, that tends to happen when it's not a free for all and you have to both destroy the opposition and live to tell about it :)
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: vHACKv on January 06, 2016, 01:05:58 PM
Muck fe are you guys trolling this thread too? I hope Santa lights your Christmas tree on fire next year.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: JunkyII on January 06, 2016, 04:09:23 PM
Yep, that tends to happen when it's not a free for all and you have to both destroy the opposition and live to tell about it :)
I'm just pointing out a reason why it's a current struggle to get some people interested in the SEA....why go into an events for 2 hours for MAYBE a fight.

Better alt limits and time standards could make it better instead of sides using advantages (Such as zeaks vs F4fs...zeaks can hang out above the entire time and not engage if they want....and they did)
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2016, 04:56:41 PM
The best, most-memorable battles I have ever had have all been in Scenarios.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: ROC on January 06, 2016, 05:54:44 PM
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I'm just pointing out a reason why it's a current struggle to get some people interested in the SEA....why go into an events for 2 hours for MAYBE a fight.

Better alt limits and time standards could make it better instead of sides using advantages (Such as zeaks vs F4fs...zeaks can hang out above the entire time and not engage if they want....and they did)

This is why old guys like me get tired.  So many of the newer players simply do not understand what scenarios were.  I am not saying it's what they are or should be, but what they were.
In the not too distant past, the Scenario was MOSTLY the practice times, the team building, the planning, the build up, the testing of the mission plans during the 3 hours of the frame, then spending the next week gearing up for the upcoming frame.  The Scenario was NEVER about cramming as many fights in as you could, that was the Main Arena.  The Scenario was flying for an hour or so horsing around with your friends, scouting, trying to pit strategy against strategy, flying, scouting, searching, stumbling upon a group and engaging, reacting to the reality of the situation without having it scripted.

Then again, those who created the scenarios entered the Online world while it was new, and came off of Dungeons and Dragons, Risk, Board Games that were dependent on imagination and patience, not instant action.  There was more imagination and time spent drawing plans, planning missions, running time trials on approaches and testing every element of the plane and mission parameters simply because it was new and we didn't always know what would happen.  It created a bond within the teams who spent months practicing torpedo drops, aligning bombers on targets, figuring out best approaches, and when the event was over, it was missed.  You flew with those you never knew before and had a great time.

The times have changed, it's not that way any more.  Not that the new play style isn't good, it's just not what it was, which is also why I have retired this week from the CM team and am taking some time off.  It's time for new players to create the events they want to play, not create the events I miss and wish people would play.  Different era, different needs, and I am looking forward to what it evolves into but my time is past.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2016, 06:06:52 PM
For me, Scenarios are this:  getting as close as possible to action you read about in WWII air-combat books.

Scenarios are a whole new dimension of on-line flying experience.

It's like describing to someone the difference between single-player and multiplayer gaming.  Some people prefer stand alone, single player.  I think that they don't know what they are missing, but to each his own.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: KCDitto on January 06, 2016, 07:45:01 PM
WOW,

That is a shocker ROC. Congratulations on retirement.... I guess. You will be missed Sir   :salute

Instant fights and unlimited ammo and lives?  Go back to your console.....

A scenario is about recreating that event as close to real life and still playable as we can. Obviously we cannot make it as it was.

My best times in this game have been in scenarios, I hardly fly the MA anymore I like the long flight to set up and engage and then LAND ALIVE!  Objective in a scenario is to survive and having your wingmen with you makes it very fun.

I have taken the CO position for AXIS and have a lot of slots left. If you want to experience what we have been talking about Join us.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: CountD90 on January 06, 2016, 08:26:01 PM
If I didn't have to leave for work by 5pm EST I would be much more open to giving my time as a squadron leader, something smaller in scale as I haven't been around the game for about 5 years  :cry :cry :cry. I did sign up though for axis, Brooke, and the A5 is my baby so if you see my name on the Axis roster feel free to throw me a bird!
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Brooke on January 06, 2016, 08:46:47 PM
Way to go, CountD90!  :aok
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: tunes on January 06, 2016, 09:10:37 PM
Brook,

I'm in. How can I help. I will meet with the LCA Thursday.

Mean While. I will look for the ID and PW List ROC sent me.

tunes

ROC, Rest Up and enjoy the SEA.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: puller on January 07, 2016, 08:34:48 AM
which is also why I have retired this week from the CM team and am taking some time off.  It's time for new players to create the events they want to play, not create the events I miss and wish people would play.  Different era, different needs, and I am looking forward to what it evolves into but my time is past.

ROC nooooo!!!!!

 :( :( :(
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: fudgums on January 07, 2016, 09:04:57 AM
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 :(  :salute ROC

I can only speak for myself, but that immersion factor in Target For Today was there, at least for me. Being outnumbered on the Axis as bad as we were for the first 6 hours of the event and the amount of fun was one of the best moments I had in AH. I don't know about the other CO's or command staff for the Axis but when the clock struck midnight, there was a bond and there was a sense of accomplishment. Also within my own squad, we had many guys that flew over 8+ hours non stop. By the end, we were all amazed and I know we'll talk about it for years. For me, the magic of scenarios was still there.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: puller on January 07, 2016, 09:50:10 AM
The immersion factor is always there in the scenarios...The bomber streams in Target for Today would make the cryt**ds in the MA wet themselves...I'm sure someone has that 1st Allied run on Paris on film....there was at least 30 sets of bombers and more escorts than I could count....Hell the scenario where we flew C205s every frame was awesome...we cleaned em up...

Junky...when was the last time you even flew in a scenario or FSO???  :headscratch:

I know you and sawzaw don't get along...maybe you should try FSO with us this month....or fly with someone like Nefari's group...

We have been racking them up in FSO...

Killing is our business and business has been very good for the Anti-Horde in FSO the last couple of years... :rock
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: KCDitto on January 07, 2016, 08:53:55 PM
YAY!

Fud, you flying this go around?

GO AXIS!
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: JunkyII on January 07, 2016, 09:00:52 PM
The immersion factor is always there in the scenarios...The bomber streams in Target for Today would make the cryt**ds in the MA wet themselves...I'm sure someone has that 1st Allied run on Paris on film....there was at least 30 sets of bombers and more escorts than I could count....Hell the scenario where we flew C205s every frame was awesome...we cleaned em up...

Junky...when was the last time you even flew in a scenario or FSO???  :headscratch:

I know you and sawzaw don't get along...maybe you should try FSO with us this month....or fly with someone like Nefari's group...

We have been racking them up in FSO...

Killing is our business and business has been very good for the Anti-Horde in FSO the last couple of years... :rock
Probably Last April....been very off and on since then unfortunately...last 3 events I was in bored me(Once we found the enemy, I know you have to find them...part of the scenario) pissed me off because of the cowardice of the enemy.

I don't have a problem with Saw, Saw has a problem with me killing him :aok (It's quite easy even when I have not flown in a while)
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Chilli on January 07, 2016, 10:39:30 PM
Junky,

It's okay, doesn't have to be your cup of tea, and plenty of reasons of my own that I could point out that could deter from participation.

I can truly say that some of my absolute most memorable times have been working together with an actual team vs team in (2 sided) historical scenarios.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: waystin2 on January 08, 2016, 08:14:42 AM
Scenarios are the purest action you can get in Aces High. :aok

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2d7b4aa487e6aa3680ac200b6cae66ae/tumblr_mtk7pumQp41sjqkp4o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: JunkyII on January 08, 2016, 09:53:38 AM
Scenarios are the purest action you can get in Aces High. :aok

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2d7b4aa487e6aa3680ac200b6cae66ae/tumblr_mtk7pumQp41sjqkp4o1_400.gif)
You haven't done played KOTH  :aok
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: waystin2 on January 08, 2016, 10:49:58 AM
You haven't done played KOTH  :aok
I am sure you are right.  Too much monogamy for my taste.  :D
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Chilli on January 08, 2016, 01:55:36 PM
Okay, I digress a bit but, just as Junky, you love "leaping into the frying pan" action that KOTH gives you.  I have participated in KOTH events where I was called out for not breaking off the initial pursuit that I had taken on one pilot, by another pilot that had a better position and was attempting to engage me.  :headscratch:  That wasn't my first rodeo, and I saw nothing wrong with continuing my pursuit while dodging my attacker at the same time, and hopefully dealing more attention to my attacker after my target was out of the fight.  The event monitor agreed with me, although the accusation that I was avoiding fighting soiled my experience.

However, I have gotten chills (no pun intended) when reaping the benefits of a great scenario, due to the planning and proper execution of team strategies, that resulted into ALL OUT brawls. 

That building of suspense (where are they?  shouldn't they be doing this? I wonder if they are doing this instead?  :headscratch:  ) results in the eruption of action with a number of possible outcomes. <<< I find this very satisfying, even in defeat, knowing that I did the best that I could in my role, and can't wait for the next planning session to better prepare and definitely do it all again!  :rock
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: JunkyII on January 08, 2016, 05:31:29 PM
Okay, I digress a bit but, just as Junky, you love "leaping into the frying pan" action that KOTH gives you.  I have participated in KOTH events where I was called out for not breaking off the initial pursuit that I had taken on one pilot, by another pilot that had a better position and was attempting to engage me.  :headscratch:  That wasn't my first rodeo, and I saw nothing wrong with continuing my pursuit while dodging my attacker at the same time, and hopefully dealing more attention to my attacker after my target was out of the fight.  The event monitor agreed with me, although the accusation that I was avoiding fighting soiled my experience.

However, I have gotten chills (no pun intended) when reaping the benefits of a great scenario, due to the planning and proper execution of team strategies, that resulted into ALL OUT brawls. 

That building of suspense (where are they?  shouldn't they be doing this? I wonder if they are doing this instead?  :headscratch:  ) results in the eruption of action with a number of possible outcomes. <<< I find this very satisfying, even in defeat, knowing that I did the best that I could in my role, and can't wait for the next planning session to better prepare and definitely do it all again!  :rock
You have to fight in KOTH, SEA people are trying too hard to live so they are cowardly....just what I have experienced in the majority of the events I went there for.

You talk about this "suspense"...problem is I don't get any adrenaline pumping during the fights my groups have ran into....people aren't flying aggressive (Because of the score setup) so it ends up being just a bunch of chatter and the possibility of a good fight, I'm sure some awesome fights have got going in those events....but I can find an awesome fight in the MA more often and I can always count on KOTH to have a good fight.

Everyone brings up "quick satisfaction"....your very wrong and you should know better Chilli, I often pass fields where we have a huge advantage to find a better fight at a further base. I'm looking for a fight, and from my experience the fights were dull and a lot of it dealt with the ALT of the fights, and the time hacks / restrictions of the event. One example, zeaks vs F4Fs....Zeaks can fly higher then F4F's, which is probably historically accurate but to encourage combat...an alt limit of say 18-20K should be made so that the F4Fs can keep up better.

Now my experience in the SEA may be because group leaders/side commanders don't know what they are doing (Kind of why I always volunteer to scout ahead of groups so I can get a fight) but I think that is also part of the problem, they are worried too much about the point systems...which it shouldn't be about what side has more points, then people become afraid to die and don't want to fight.

I don't know, just my opinion
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Oddball-CAF on January 08, 2016, 06:16:23 PM
The times have changed, it's not that way any more.  Not that the new play style isn't good, it's just not what it was, which is also why I have retired this week from the CM team and am taking some time off. 

Geez ROC, I'm -very- disappointed to hear that you're stepping down and away,
but I understand where you're coming from.
  I look forward to seein' you down the road. You KNOW you'll be back and fully
energized at some point! <S>

My best as always, Odd
 
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: fudgums on January 08, 2016, 09:37:43 PM
YAY!

Fud, you flying this go around?

GO AXIS!

Unfortunately no, timing is really bad for me. Give the Allies hell though!
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: Delirium on January 09, 2016, 09:38:29 AM
In the not too distant past, the Scenario was MOSTLY the practice times, the team building, the planning, the build up, the testing of the mission plans during the 3 hours of the frame, then spending the next week gearing up for the upcoming frame. 

The Scenario was NEVER about cramming as many fights in as you could

Sorry to hear you are stepping down, Roc.

I have a similar mindset, and I can honestly say the best days of this game have come and gone. Not because of graphics or gameplay or much of what HTC can control, but because the community has changed so much and not for the better. Aces High has literally hemorrhaged subscribers and the biggest loss is the increasing number of talented people that volunteer their time to make events so popular in this game.

The Scenario was flying for an hour or so horsing around with your friends, scouting, trying to pit strategy against strategy, flying, scouting, searching, stumbling upon a group and engaging, reacting to the reality of the situation without having it scripted.

Philippine Phandango is a good example of the heavily scripted events that ruined it for me. We no longer had to second guess our decisions but instead we were able to discern which enemy squadrons would be present in which locations and even individual pilots. Even in a fight we could figure out who was flying which plane in an enemy formation and target certain pilots first that posed a greater threat.

It's time for new players to create the events they want to play, not create the events I miss and wish people would play. 

Take a break and rejoin the ranks of the CMs, I miss those events too.

edit: It took me some time to type this, I didn't want to offend anyone nor did want to demean the individual efforts of volunteers.
Title: Re: Squads, I need your help. . . .
Post by: 1ijac on January 10, 2016, 11:08:49 AM
ROC,

   Thanks so much for the considerable time and effort you have put forth.  Your efforts have provided all of us with many hours of enjoyment and laughs.  I personally have missed seeing you in the main arena.  Hope to see more of you in the future.  Again, thank you for your dedication to aspects of this great game and your friendship over the years.

 :salute  one-eye