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General Forums => Open Beta Test => Topic started by: HamrDown on April 27, 2016, 01:44:44 PM
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Many, like me are looking forward to the final version that would be an update to AH2 and then see AH2 no more. I, like many are spending more time in the Beta than in AH2 simply to get better acquainted with the changes to the game and it is really hard to have tasted what is to be and go back to the old.
The sounds are nice,and sure there will be updates, and seems to me that the planes have been modeled a little better; the P51 seems to fly like it really did, and guns are beefed up to what they should be. Is there a list of planes that have been changed and what was changed in AH3 vs AH2?
How far off are we until AH3 is final?
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HamrDown
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HTC has (almost) never answered 'when' questions. :noid
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Your asking them to show you the one ring to rule them all....
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Your asking them to show you the one ring to rule them all....
:rofl :rofl
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Your asking them to show you the one ring to rule them all....
I thought that was the "Dot O Death" which few have ever mastered to rule them all....... :noid
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HamrDown,
AH3 is basically in layman's terms.... a graphics engine update
The flight model of the entire plane set has not changed a single bit....
Hope this helps
TC. ( I'm on holiday, will be back soon )
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I wonder if some number of people testing the beta forgot to turn of stall limiter......I had to go check just now..... :rofl
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Yeah, about that flight model thing. . . the planes sure seem to slow down for landing better. Maybe I've adjusted over the years, but that's my perception.
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I wonder if some number of people testing the beta forgot to turn of stall limiter......I had to go check just now..... :rofl
Probably more than a few. I'm one of them. It's so long since I turned that off in AH2 that I had forgotten it. :o
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I wonder if some number of people testing the beta forgot to turn of stall limiter......I had to go check just now..... :rofl
I thinks it's actually the sound that makes everyone feel the flight model had changed...to include myself. If stall limiter was on I would have noticed in a few seconds of a fight that .y plane was not performing.
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Huh? Is the stall limiter on by default? Doesn't it go off by transferring the settings from AH2? :huh
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Thanks for making me look. I had left tracers on and I hate that, so . . . appreciate the little reminders. Hehe
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Yeah, about that flight model thing. . . the planes sure seem to slow down for landing better. Maybe I've adjusted over the years, but that's my perception.
Challenge, do you consider that it could be seeming like that because of the atmospheric conditions?
I mean, the tall grass blades on the ground are blowing in the wind it appears
Hmm......edit: I have not bothered to check yet, if the grass is actually being blown by the wind or if it is simply animated graphics...
TC (me holiday is bout over)
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Is it real wind in game or simulated?
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Is it real wind in game or simulated?
Zack, all atmospheric conditions in the game are simulated, the game is a flight sim, heh...
TC
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I think you just answered your own question.
What I was referring to is the fact that I can keep the nose of a P-51 down (below the horizon) more than I remember having done before, and still the airplane slows down.
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Zack, all atmospheric conditions in the game are simulated, the game is a flight sim, heh...
TC
It is ????? TC really, did you have to.....
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I think zack was referring to the methane kind of wind.
and for the OP 2 weeks should just about cover it.
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Trees move to the breeze and wave break on the beaches.
Now if they get the issue of the controls locking in mid turn..... that would be nice.
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Many, like me are looking forward to the final version that would be an update to AH2 and then see AH2 no more. I, like many are spending more time in the Beta than in AH2 simply to get better acquainted with the changes to the game and it is really hard to have tasted what is to be and go back to the old.
The sounds are nice,and sure there will be updates, and seems to me that the planes have been modeled a little better; the P51 seems to fly like it really did, and guns are beefed up to what they should be. Is there a list of planes that have been changed and what was changed in AH3 vs AH2?
How far off are we until AH3 is final?
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HamrDown
Typical impatience... a study in today's society
RAM
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Typical impatience... a study in today's society
RAM
Moreso an example of how the gaming industry has changed and altered peoples' expectations. Look at most AAA games, when they release a new version they have a release date way in advance. When they patch the game, they outline most if not all the details they've altered.
Not saying it's right or wrong, personally I like it a little better when every bit of math involved with a game isn't spelled out for the community, but some people do.
Wiley.
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Bigger companies have teams of programmers so they can realistically set target dates. Hitech is one man effectively building a custom home with the aid of two over worked helpers carrying out a laundry list of tasks we never hear about.
Give HTC a break.
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That is a misnomer, at best.
The number of programmers involved, is irrelevant to setting a completion date for any given project. Matter of fact, more programmers, typically, lead to longer development times.
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I always thought it was the project managers asking for the last minute teleportation device and fusion drive controller interface the marketing and sales reps promised an investor to get the last big influx of cash to keep the programming team paid. But, that was in the 90's with point of sales barcode inventory to mainframe interfaces EDI for retailers. My apologies to the house....
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For what I've seen, most "big" games try very hard to launch for special dates such as Christmas or other longer holidays when people supposedly have time to spare and play their games. Quite often the rush results in an inadequately tested product that will get heavily patched during the next year or so. Making half of the buyers happy right off the box seems to be good enough, making half of the unhappy ones happy during the next few months will save the company's good reputation , making the rest happy is something that can be done if there's nothing else to do.
I remember getting a free game with my previous video card. One evening I then decided to give it a try before going to sleep... It took four hours to patch and the update process could not be suspended. Needless to say I didn't try it that night after having installed all the patches.
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HamrDown,
AH3 is basically in layman's terms.... a graphics engine update
The flight model of the entire plane set has not changed a single bit....
Hope this helps
TC. ( I'm on holiday, will be back soon )
Yea....No. There is DEFINITELY some changes in the flight model. Let me give you an example...
B29 taking off in AH2 barely can get off the ground at a speed of 160-165 and then a notch of flaps. In AH3 she starts at 140 and lifts off.
B17 / B26's - damage model is completely FUBAR'd right now in the latest release 19. Had a 262 come and jump me - hit ONLY the center bomber in the formation yet all 3 planes blew up.
So - something has been tweaked...and I'm not sure where but there are definitely changes - both good and bad. The good thing is that we get to play with everything before it goes final and I like that.
Has anyone also noticed the AAA damage? Flew at 20K over NIT city in B29's and 1 ping blast and on fire to each of my planes. Also, getting hit from 88's or ship AAA guns seem to kill bombers like they are paper airplanes. Almost impossible to fly bombers right now and not get killed every time on first pass of an aircraft.
Just my observations so far...but the graphics are sweet :)
Elec1
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Yea....No. There is DEFINITELY some changes in the flight model. Let me give you an example...
B29 taking off in AH2 barely can get off the ground at a speed of 160-165 and then a notch of flaps. In AH3 she starts at 140 and lifts off.
B17 / B26's - damage model is completely FUBAR'd right now in the latest release 19. Had a 262 come and jump me - hit ONLY the center bomber in the formation yet all 3 planes blew up.
So - something has been tweaked...and I'm not sure where but there are definitely changes - both good and bad. The good thing is that we get to play with everything before it goes final and I like that.
Has anyone also noticed the AAA damage? Flew at 20K over NIT city in B29's and 1 ping blast and on fire to each of my planes. Also, getting hit from 88's or ship AAA guns seem to kill bombers like they are paper airplanes. Almost impossible to fly bombers right now and not get killed every time on first pass of an aircraft.
Just my observations so far...but the graphics are sweet :)
Elec1
The only thing that has changed in any flight modeling is one bug fix to how wep works.
HiTech
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It feels like control inputs are crisper now that graphics is being processed by the graphics card. Meh, then I've had about three cups of coffee and may be seeing coffee fairies flying around the room too...... :O
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For what I've seen, most "big" games try very hard to launch for special dates such as Christmas or other longer holidays when people supposedly have time to spare and play their games. Quite often the rush results in an inadequately tested product that will get heavily patched during the next year or so. Making half of the buyers happy right off the box seems to be good enough, making half of the unhappy ones happy during the next few months will save the company's good reputation , making the rest happy is something that can be done if there's nothing else to do.
I remember getting a free game with my previous video card. One evening I then decided to give it a try before going to sleep... It took four hours to patch and the update process could not be suspended. Needless to say I didn't try it that night after having installed all the patches.
I have a question. how many halves are there and if by chance there are only 2 halves which make up the whole, how many are in "the rest" ?
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... how many are in "the rest" ?
1/4 of the whole.
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1/4 of the whole.
I prefer more accurate terms like, a heap of, a whole mess of, and when measuring time one cigarette is exactly how long it takes for epoxy to set for my gaskets. :old:
So 2 weeks is not, or never has been, a truly predictable rule of measurement.
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1/4 of the whole.
The Bug is technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.
Next up in math word problems... If a train leaves Albuquerque headed toward New York at 60mph, and another train leaves New York headed toward Albuquerque traveling at 80mph, how many times will someone ask when AH3 will be done before they collide?
Wiley.
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The game will be ready in a skosh.
The word skosh comes from the Japanese word sukoshi, which is pronounced "skoh shee" and means "a little bit" or "a small amount." The Japanese word was shortened by U.S. servicemen stationed in Japan after World War II. Later, in the Korean War, a small soldier was often nicknamed "Skosh." In civilian-speak, "skosh" can be used as a noun (as in our example sentence) or adverbially (as in "I'm a skosh tired").
Used more often in the south, like around Dallas.
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I have a question. how many halves are there and if by chance there are only 2 halves which make up the whole, how many are in "the rest" ?
It's that "common core" math they are teaching these days. :devil
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Is a "skosh" more or less than a "smidgin" ?
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A skosh is two smidgens, or four gnat's whiskers.
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you are trying to rush hitech, just so you can be the first one to do the kessel run. ignoring the fact that it's the distance not the time that matters.
semp
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The Bug is technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.
Next up in math word problems... If a train leaves Albuquerque headed toward New York at 60mph, and another train leaves New York headed toward Albuquerque traveling at 80mph, how many times will someone ask when AH3 will be done before they collide?
Wiley.
Hmm is the calculation based on a "HO or a "Merge?? Oh never mind, if its a collision then it must be a "HO". :banana:
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Hmm is the calculation based on a "HO or a "Merge?? Oh never mind, if its a collision then it must be a "HO". :banana:
is it a ho with a ram? 1/4 qt shot? rocket ho? to many variables.
semp
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Are we there yet?
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Are we there yet?
14 days...
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Dr. Rumack - "How long until AH3 is ready?"
HiTech - "I can't tell."
"You can tell me, I'm a doctor."
"No, I'm just not sure."
"Can you take a guess?"
"Well, not for another two weeks."
"You can't take a guess for another two weeks?"
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Caldera, that's just like our public medical service, they only can book audiences with the doctor for two weeks. If the schedule is full, they ask you to call tomorrow for the 15th day. Which will be fully booked before you can get through. So you'll be asked to call "tomorrow", day after day.
As for math quizzes, here's a tough one:
There were three men in a boat. They had four cigarettes but no matches. How did they manage to smoke?
Answer: They threw one cigarette over board and made the boat a cigarette lighter.
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So, where did the smoke come from now that they are one cigarette lighter..... :huh
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Caldera, that's just like our public medical service, they only can book audiences with the doctor for two weeks. If the schedule is full, they ask you to call tomorrow for the 15th day. Which will be fully booked before you can get through. So you'll be asked to call "tomorrow", day after day.
As for math quizzes, here's a tough one:
There were three men in a boat. They had four cigarettes but no matches. How did they manage to smoke?
Answer: They threw one cigarette over board and made the boat a cigarette lighter.
A local bar has a "Free Beer Tomorrow" sign. I keep going back, hoping that day will be tomorrow. :cheers:
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How about this 1 :old:
A son or daughter in college wrote to his or her parents
asking for money. But!, he or she asked in a cryptic manner.
The note was:
Send
More
Money
How much did she or he ask for?
Ram
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The son, Money signed the note asking his parents to send his sister, More. (The siblings are named, "Money" and "More"). Therefore the son, Money, only asked for as much as it took to send his sister, More.
:headscratch: Weird, but that's all I got...... :confused:
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he/she was asking for parents to send more money. more is the name of the sibling. it's an old joke. kind of like when is 2+2 not equals 4.
semp
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2+2=jello
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Kind of like when you are standing on your head, you have to look down to look up. That is of course if you didn't cut your head off and are standing on it to make yourself taller :headscratch:
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Actually, all 3 words represent dollar amounts :bolt:
Ram
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2 Weeks
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Actually, all 3 words represent dollar amounts :bolt:
Ram
I googled it..... :rolleyes: That was about as straight forward as the current tax code. (they did all but the last digit "y") I say y = 2 but I still like my first answer better, math hurtz :(