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Title: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 30, 2016, 09:34:28 AM
worth the view

Dr. A. Roberts presents Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII.

Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: zack1234 on May 30, 2016, 10:39:10 AM
Fighting in WWI and WWII was both a mistake
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Chris79 on May 30, 2016, 12:00:57 PM
Invade the Soviet Union they said, it will be easy they said.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 30, 2016, 02:26:33 PM
Obviously. Neither of you bothered to watch even the first 5 minutes of the video
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Easyscor on May 30, 2016, 02:38:09 PM
Obviously. Neither of you bothered to watch even the first 5 minutes of the video

No link.
Maybe they don't have Flash either.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: zack1234 on May 30, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
iPhone ⛄️
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: wil3ur on May 30, 2016, 03:03:00 PM
I thought it was the devil's weed...

Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: nrshida on May 30, 2016, 04:31:00 PM
iPhone ⛄️

Hipster!  :furious
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Devil 505 on May 30, 2016, 05:16:11 PM
I always thought it was this:

(http://img01.deviantart.net/294b/i/2009/183/8/1/scissors_beats_paper_by_mcdermid.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 30, 2016, 05:25:38 PM
No link.
Maybe they don't have Flash either.

iPhone ⛄️

Iphones are for, as my son puts it "the lowest common denominator..or women

Here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5agLW7fTzBc
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Ripsnort on May 30, 2016, 06:12:27 PM
I thought it was the devil's weed...


That is some funny stuff wil3ur! LOL!
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DaveBB on May 30, 2016, 06:51:10 PM
The Germans lost because of this:

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/090112/Biopics/Patton_l.jpg)

That's General Patton commanding his Sherman tank, about to take Berlin.  Picture probably taken around 1943-44 since it is color.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Masherbrum on May 30, 2016, 08:38:53 PM
Germany was done the moment they switched from attacking the RAF Aerodromes and trying to save the moustached one's ego and bombing London.   If they would have stuck to the original plan, things would have been a little different, if not much more different.   But he lost so.....
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 30, 2016, 09:07:21 PM
The Germans lost because of this:

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/090112/Biopics/Patton_l.jpg)

That's General Patton commanding his Sherman tank, about to take Berlin.  Picture probably taken around 1943-44 since it is color.

Point 1. There is no record of Patton actually personally riding in a tank in WWII

Point 2. Thats not Patton but George C Scott
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 30, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
Germany was done the moment they switched from attacking the RAF Aerodromes and trying to save the moustached one's ego and bombing London.   If they would have stuck to the original plan, things would have been a little different, if not much more different.   But he lost so.....

And that and why he did that is actually covered in the video.
Point is the reasons he did that were the same reasons he kept making that same mistake over and over.

Again. Covered in the video
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Brooke on May 30, 2016, 10:10:01 PM
Point 1. There is no record of Patton actually personally riding in a tank in WWII

Point 2. Thats not Patton but George C Scott

I think he was making a pretty good joke.  :aok
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Brooke on May 30, 2016, 10:12:48 PM
The real reason:

https://youtu.be/9mTlnrXFAXE?t=89
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: zack1234 on May 31, 2016, 02:31:04 AM
Germany only wins wars against the French :)

In 1871 and 1938 :)

Baguettes are odd
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 31, 2016, 05:53:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDGyPRr9-AE
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Pongo on May 31, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
Reading is much better for learning about this kind of thing that watching youtube.

https://www.amazon.ca/Brute-Force-John-Ellis/dp/0670807737

The RAF was never nearly defeated at any point in the BOB. And lined up behind them was a navy that had to be dealt with somehow after the Germans had thrown away their own small surface forces in Norway.
When you take the numbers presented in Brute Force, and the intelligence advantages the allies east and west had and throw in that he Germans demonstrated very clearly what would happen to anyone they defeated.
All that was needed was the willingness to fight them.
The allies had dozens and dozens of painful but certain ways to beat the Germans, the Germans had only the hope that they would not be fully opposed.  And their own actions ensured they would be fully opposed.
The rest is just romanticism.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Masherbrum on May 31, 2016, 02:09:38 PM
Excellent post and Ellis is one of my favorite authors.   Good to see the name Pongo again. 
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Post by: caldera on May 31, 2016, 04:24:45 PM
Their biggest mistake was bombing Pearl Harbor.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: ghi on May 31, 2016, 06:35:43 PM
Hitler made no mistakes,  WW1,2,3 were preplanned and are following the blueprint, unfortunately we can't talk about this here.



Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: zack1234 on June 01, 2016, 02:06:11 AM
Their biggest mistake was bombing Pearl Harbor.

Not being able to win wars is the German problem.

And being overpaid to keep them from dusting off their boots
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Brooke on June 01, 2016, 03:09:04 AM
Not being able to win wars is the German problem.

The Germans did pretty well against the Romans.

After the Romans, the Franks (a group of German tribes) took over a land thereafter called "France", and two German tribes, the Angles and the Saxons, took over a land thereafter called "Angleland".
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Ripsnort on June 01, 2016, 09:38:48 AM
Reading is much better for learning about this kind of thing that watching youtube.

https://www.amazon.ca/Brute-Force-John-Ellis/dp/0670807737

The RAF was never nearly defeated at any point in the BOB. And lined up behind them was a navy that had to be dealt with somehow after the Germans had thrown away their own small surface forces in Norway.
When you take the numbers presented in Brute Force, and the intelligence advantages the allies east and west had and throw in that he Germans demonstrated very clearly what would happen to anyone they defeated.
All that was needed was the willingness to fight them.
The allies had dozens and dozens of painful but certain ways to beat the Germans, the Germans had only the hope that they would not be fully opposed.  And their own actions ensured they would be fully opposed.
The rest is just romanticism.

Geez, what is this Old AH Guy Day?
Hiya Pongo. :)
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: zack1234 on June 01, 2016, 12:10:33 PM
The Germans did pretty well against the Romans.

After the Romans, the Franks (a group of German tribes) took over a land thereafter called "France", and two German tribes, the Angles and the Saxons, took over a land thereafter called "Angleland".

Dolby is Welsh?
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: FLOOB on June 01, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
God you guys are square.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Brooke on June 01, 2016, 12:36:08 PM
Dolby is Welsh?

True, the Welsh are not German.
Title: Re: Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII
Post by: Vraciu on June 05, 2016, 10:28:05 AM
Their biggest mistake was bombing Pearl Harbor.

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!!  Hell no!!!"