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Title: A26 INVADER
Post by: 68EZPkns on July 26, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Love to have this plane.

http://www.aviation-history.com/douglas/a26.html
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 26, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
It would be a nice addition, though it wound render the A-20 pretty much a hanger queen if it's introduced.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: 68EZPkns on July 26, 2016, 04:28:08 PM
Well maybe a small perk price and if enemy is in effect would have to resort to the A-20.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: shake307 on July 26, 2016, 07:02:10 PM
It would be a nice addition, though it wound render the A-20 pretty much a hanger queen if it's introduced.

Well then, f**k the a20 :bolt:
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: save on July 27, 2016, 04:15:50 AM
Someone wrote the Invader had very high wingloading and turn in the region of the Me410 = worst in game. Its hard not to think about the front 18 .50 machineguns though.
However it will be outranged by Me410's MK103 that kills any plane (exception: maybe not the Yak3) with one hit  :old:
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: firbal on August 01, 2016, 10:00:01 PM
I have been wanting the A26 for years. Right now I get to fly on one for the CAF as one of the flight engineers. They are fun to fly on during airshows. I would love to fly one in the game. :airplane:
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: hgtonyvi on August 02, 2016, 01:18:49 AM
Do not underestimate the A20  :old:
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: JimmyD3 on August 02, 2016, 12:15:40 PM
+1
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: 4462 on August 02, 2016, 12:30:18 PM

As an Air Warrior in a land, long long ago.  Shartbait and meself used to Blood Pig and troll fighters.  That version of the A-26 was a great plane.  Of course, the fights would run down to the deck, where SB's flight skills shined.  Me?  I was gunner in the back and kept them distracted.   We had so much fun doing this.  Perhaps not realistic, but it was fun.

Specter 4462
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 02, 2016, 12:38:31 PM
As an Air Warrior in a land, long long ago.  Shartbait and meself used to Blood Pig and troll fighters.  That version of the A-26 was a great plane.  Of course, the fights would run down to the deck, where SB's flight skills shined.  Me?  I was gunner in the back and kept them distracted.   We had so much fun doing this.  Perhaps not realistic, but it was fun.

Specter 4462

It also helped the A-26 in AW that all bombers had porked flight models that allowed them to out turn any fighter in the game.  The A-26 in AH would fly much differently.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Sabre on August 02, 2016, 12:58:53 PM
+1
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Drane on August 02, 2016, 04:38:12 PM
+1  :aok

Got to work on an A26 in 1982 that was converted to a fire fighting tanker. It had a blown seal in the hydraulic system. The pilot took me along for the test ride.   :cheers:

What an awesome airplane!  :airplane:
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Scca on August 02, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
+1

That would be a cool addition. Cobia should not be allowed to fly it though.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: bustr on August 02, 2016, 08:06:58 PM
So all you do against it just like the A20 is not get suckered into an over shoot. With 50cal in the nose and wings it will be hard not to get nailed while trying to get out from in front. Then it does have those dorsal and ventral twin 50cal to avoid.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 02, 2016, 08:15:21 PM
I would hope the version of the A-26 would be the "C" model with the clam shell canopy that allowed the top turret to be locked in the forward firing position.  I also hope (if we get a perked ordnance system) that it would get the perked ordnance option of being able to select from various nose armament options of the B model or the glass nose of the C model.  With a few hours of work, the A-26C was able to swap out its nose package for any of the B models nose package and vice versa.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Wmaker on August 03, 2016, 03:18:35 AM
I would hope the version of the A-26 would be the "C" model with the clam shell canopy that allowed the top turret to be locked in the forward firing position.

Nope, it was exactly the opposite. The old canopy allowed the turret to be locked to fire in unison with the forward firing armament. The newer canopy was bulged outward and therefore there wasn't enough clearance to do it.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 03, 2016, 04:20:49 PM
Nope, it was exactly the opposite. The old canopy allowed the turret to be locked to fire in unison with the forward firing armament. The newer canopy was bulged outward and therefore there wasn't enough clearance to do it.

Looking at my book on the Invader, the clamshell canopy was introduced in the A-26B-30-DL block being produced in Long Beach plant while the Tulsa plant line put out the A-26C-30-DT block with the clamshell canopy. 
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: save on August 04, 2016, 01:34:43 PM
They still are too fast in formation by a 100mph or so.
A 110g cant catch some buffs at high alt's, which is stupid.

Rolling or doing a full splitS in a  Lancaster would cause "disturbances in the force of fidelity".


It also helped the A-26 in AW that all bombers had porked flight models that allowed them to out turn any fighter in the game.  The A-26 in AH would fly much differently.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Tumor on August 05, 2016, 02:35:43 AM
Good idea! Can we please add some Unicorns fahting Rainbows too?
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Tumor on August 05, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
They still are too fast in formation by a 100mph or so.
A 110g cant catch some buffs at high alt's, which is stupid.

Rolling or doing a full splitS in a  Lancaster would cause "disturbances in the force of fidelity".

Hey... this here is Relaxed Realism.  Stop whining!
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: cobia38 on August 05, 2016, 07:01:17 PM
It would be a nice addition, though it wound render the A-20 pretty much a hanger queen if it's introduced.

naa,A20 would still get used
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: earl1937 on August 06, 2016, 06:13:34 AM
Love to have this plane.

http://www.aviation-history.com/douglas/a26.html
:airplane: A very good idea EZ, I think it would add some "spice" to the game! I personally think the best use of the 26C version would in NOE attacks, but it would take at least 3 sets to be effective! Its very quick to climb to 7K from sea level for example for bombing purposes, but in the right hands, a "total" NOE would be the best use of this a/c! Don't mistake its flying with a "sluggishly" over loaded twin engine medium bomber! With 50% flaps, it'll turn inside of most twin engine aircraft! When firing 8 50's on a low level pass at something, you get the impression that it "stutters" in mid air!
There is no comparison between what we have now, the 26B and a true 26C!
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: RODBUSTR on September 25, 2016, 02:50:17 AM
The A 20 acts more like an Invader anyway.  U.S.A.A.C.  banned any acrobatics in A20  and banks of more than 45 degrees. the wings come off.  A26 could hold it's own against bf 109g in some c0onditions. 
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 25, 2016, 03:24:42 AM
A26 could hold it's own against bf 109g in some c0onditions.

What makes you think that? 
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Karnak on September 25, 2016, 11:02:59 AM
There is no comparison between what we have now, the 26B and a true 26C!
We don't have any version of it now.  We have a Martin B-26B, a completely unrelated aircraft to the Douglas A-26, later B-26.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Chalenge on September 25, 2016, 11:13:48 AM
It would be an A20 with 800 more horses and up to eight more guns. Brutal airplane!
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Zimme83 on September 25, 2016, 11:37:26 AM
If its perked maybe. Otherwise any base defender would up it with gun pods and HO the skies clear.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Chalenge on September 25, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
As long as the pilot's eyes are locked inside of the airplane, maybe. This airplane had some pretty high loss rates and never was a fighter.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Zimme83 on September 25, 2016, 12:06:47 PM
Based on how the A-20 is used in the game, a more powerful variant with 8-14 .50.s would be widely misused. Disable F3 mode might work since the visibility is rather poor. But we dont need an upgraded A-20 with a ton of more fire power as long as the current one is flown the way it is.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Rich46yo on September 25, 2016, 02:08:55 PM
It would be a nice addition, though it wound render the A-20 pretty much a hanger queen if it's introduced.

I dont think so. The A26 would be perked and the A20 has a following of those who can actually dog fight with it. And do it well. The A20 will always be 1st choice when the FHs are down and the Boston is a nice, fast raider.

Man sometimes I Log on and cant make up my mind what to fly there are so many options now. I'd love to see the A26.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 25, 2016, 05:36:22 PM
As long as the pilot's eyes are locked inside of the airplane, maybe. This airplane had some pretty high loss rates and never was a fighter.

Most of the loss rate of A-26s were due to mechanical failures and AAA, not from enemy fighters.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Chalenge on September 25, 2016, 06:00:39 PM
Oh, I'm well aware. The P-51 squadrons lost all but one of the top aces that way.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 25, 2016, 06:29:49 PM
Nah. 

There are other planes more relevant to WWII than the A26
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Zimme83 on September 26, 2016, 02:22:19 PM
Most of the loss rate of A-26s were due to mechanical failures and AAA, not from enemy fighters.

But A-26 entered service so late that the threat from enemy fighters were close to non existent.
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Hajo on September 28, 2016, 02:44:58 AM
Beaufighter
Title: Re: A26 INVADER
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 28, 2016, 12:55:00 PM
But A-26 entered service so late that the threat from enemy fighters were close to non existent.

Yep.  One of the first A-26 squadrons in the ETO only saw a couple of Luftwaffe planes during their tour because it was so late in the war, that like you said, enemy fighters were almost non-existent.  It's also why the A-26 had so little kills attributed to it during the war.