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Title: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 19, 2016, 11:54:45 PM
Is there an aura around the trees and their parts? Strafing fires through the trees, bombs explode after passing the trees. 88mm or any of them don't. :bhead
 
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: BowHTR on September 20, 2016, 05:43:40 AM
This has been discussed many times. Imagine there is a transparent box around the tree.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: Condor on September 20, 2016, 10:40:09 AM
This has been discussed many times. Imagine there is a transparent box around the tree.

It has been mentioned but has there been a response from Skuzzy or hitech? This is something that needs to be fixed. How big is the transparent box around the tree? I fired over a palm tree at a tank on the hill. I'm guessing my round cleared the top of the tree by several feet but it exploded over the tree. It's kind of hard to deal with invisible boxes you can't shoot through. Also, its not consistent. I killed a tank that was almost completely buried in a clump of trees. There seemed to be no invisible box. So now, whenever there is a tree anywhere near my line of fire I never know if I really have shot or not.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: BowHTR on September 20, 2016, 10:52:24 AM
Try reading through this thread some. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380958.120.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380958.120.html)

(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=380958.0;attach=25197)
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: Chalenge on September 20, 2016, 10:58:31 AM
I really think that everything will work out in the end. With anything new like this it takes time to iron out the creases.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: Condor on September 20, 2016, 11:31:36 AM
Try reading through this thread some. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380958.120.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,380958.120.html)

(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=380958.0;attach=25197)

Thanks,

I recall that thread and the picture you posted makes some sense. However, what I've experienced would be as if the red lines were drawn 2-4 feet out beyond the tips of any of the  tree. On the other hand, I've gotten kills by firing between branches within the red lines. Guess I should be glad for those. I suspect Chalenge is right. I just need to be more patient.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: BowHTR on September 20, 2016, 11:34:26 AM
Thanks,

I recall that thread and the picture you posted makes some sense. However, what I've experienced would be as if the red lines were drawn 2-4 feet out beyond the tips of any of the  tree. On the other hand, I've gotten kills by firing between branches within the red lines. Guess I should be glad for those. I suspect Chalenge is right. I just need to be more patient.

I think its more of a luck of the draw type thing right now. I'm sure it will be fixed in time.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: redcatcherb412 on September 20, 2016, 11:56:26 AM
It seems kind of the reverse of being inside a building with the walls invisible and able to fire out.  Aircraft can hit you thru the leaves as well as auto ack, but you cannot get a shot back in.  It goes for MG also .50s and .30 stop at the leaves, if you see leaves flying from bullet hits even a clear shot at tank treads below the tree, no hit sprites or tracers get past the leaves.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: 715 on September 20, 2016, 01:42:42 PM
A good solution, if it is possible, would be to shrink the diameter of the hit elipsoid (the red lines in the image above).  After all, the outside branches of virtually all trees are very thin and wouldn't stop shells.  It's only as you get closer to the central trunk that branches get substantial.
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: hitech on September 20, 2016, 01:46:03 PM
There is not a "Hit elipsoid" The thing displayed is simply for the object editor. Trees polyies are collided like any other object but do to the bill boarding things are not so simple.

HiTech
Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: 715 on September 20, 2016, 01:53:54 PM
Ah.. OK.  I guess I jumped to conclusions as to what that image was showing.

Title: Re: Trees and Cannon fire
Post by: JimmyD3 on September 20, 2016, 07:47:57 PM
There is not a "Hit elipsoid" The thing displayed is simply for the object editor. Trees polyies are collided like any other object but do to the bill boarding things are not so simple.

HiTech

Does that mean there is no work around, or just something that will take some time to work out?