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Title: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Lusche on September 23, 2016, 04:57:05 PM
Right now, the radar icon is being tied to the plane class. A single Mossie XVI appears as a bomber, same as a a SBD, despite being hardly distinguishable from fighters of same size.
In my opinion, it would not only makesomewhat  more sense to make the icon type depending on the presence of formations - it would also open some interesting tactical choices.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: USCH on September 24, 2016, 11:53:17 AM
+1 and I like the bomber icons.. But ya an SBD or d3a shouldn't show up like a set of b29's.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Blade on September 25, 2016, 03:21:02 AM
I think so too. :aok
I suggest Icon size for Single / Twin / more engine.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: EagleDNY on September 25, 2016, 02:23:29 PM
+1 - makes sense - the size of the target (large vs small) is all we need the radar to display.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: LilMak on September 26, 2016, 12:42:23 PM
Tie the bomber icon to formation use would be cool. No formation and it shows as a fighter.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Drane on September 26, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
NEIN!  :noid (where's that thumbs down thingy)
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: popeye on September 26, 2016, 09:55:41 PM
+1
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: bozon on September 27, 2016, 06:12:27 AM
Right now, the radar icon is being tied to the plane class. A single Mossie XVI appears as a bomber, same as a a SBD, despite being hardly distinguishable from fighters of same size.
In my opinion, it would not only makesomewhat  more sense to make the icon type depending on the presence of formations - it would also open some interesting tactical choices.
WAIT!!!!!  :eek:

I did not think about this! Terrible news to the mossie XVI tactical fliers...
I always fly mossie XVI as a single and pretend to be a mossie fighter. This way I can get through enemy fighters that dare not face me HO, or scatter because they still carry the scars of the mossie VI on their behinds.

The bomber icon blows away my "look away, I am a VI" tactic!!!

Please HTC, put bomber icon on formations only.
it is also not fair towards SBDs, TBMs, and B5N...

+1 to the original post.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: USCH on September 27, 2016, 10:28:11 AM
Well should a single B-29 show as a fighter?
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Lusche on September 27, 2016, 10:39:04 AM
Well should a single B-29 show as a fighter?

In theory not.
But it would make things more complicated to implement if you base it on formations and individual plane size . That's why I proposed formation only.
Besides, flying a bomber as a single and getting a smaller icon is one of things I thought of when I mentioned "interesting tactical choices". You can fly your heavy bomber somewhat more 'sneaky', but at a cost of 1/3rd payload and a significantly higher vulnerability.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Devil 505 on September 27, 2016, 10:41:39 AM
I think an intermediate size aircraft icon is needed for attack aircraft and twin engine fighters.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Lusche on September 27, 2016, 10:44:21 AM
I think an intermediate size aircraft icon is needed for attack aircraft


Definition of attack aircraft in this context is?
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Devil 505 on September 27, 2016, 10:53:50 AM
But it would make things more complicated to implement if you base it on formations and individual plane size . That's why I proposed formation only.
Besides, flying a bomber as a single and getting a smaller icon is one of things I thought of when I mentioned "interesting tactical choices". You can fly your heavy bomber somewhat more 'sneaky', but at a cost of 1/3rd payload and a significantly higher vulnerability.

This could be a good thing in game for smaller bombers: B-25, Boston, Betty, He 111, TBM, Tu-2, Mossie XVI; but not for the bombers with large payloads or good defensive capability should always be shown with the full size bomber icon regardless of formations: B-17, B-24, B-26, B-29, Lancaster, Ju 88 and the Ki-67.   
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Devil 505 on September 27, 2016, 10:55:54 AM

Definition of attack aircraft in this context is?

Single or twin engine aircraft of intermediate size. IE: wingspan longer than an Hellcat

Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Lusche on September 27, 2016, 10:57:38 AM
Single or twin engine aircraft of intermediate size.

"Single engine aircraft of intermediate size" is a very blurry line though...
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Devil 505 on September 27, 2016, 11:02:24 AM
"Single engine aircraft of intermediate size" is a very blurry line though...

I look at it like this: could a radar operator tell the difference between a P-38, Bf 110, TBM, or an IL2 based on size? Probably not.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Lusche on September 27, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
I look at it like this: could a radar operator tell the difference between a P-38, Bf 110, TBM, or an IL2 based on size? Probably not.

Would he be able to tell the difference between a Hellcat and an Il-2? probably not either.
Title: Re: Bomber Radar Icons
Post by: Beefcake on September 27, 2016, 03:00:23 PM
I think the B38 needs to get a bomber icon from now on.  :D