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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: ONTOS on September 23, 2016, 06:45:47 PM
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I realize that bugs are still being worked out, but the Fiat G55 would be a great addition for the Italians. For those that like fire power(like me), she has 3 20mm's and 2 12.7 guns, faster than the C 205, very maneuverable, and great looking. Hey, she's Italian !
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Actually, the G.55 would be slower than the C.205 by a few MPH, but overall would have a larger wing load, more fuel storage, an extra 20mm cannon in the nose, and because of the larger wing area it would be much easier to fly at altitudes and theoretically have better turn performance (read: stall fighting) down load.
I'm going off of memory on this one.
It would be a wonderful addition to the game, IMO, but wouldn't really add something that we don't have. It would be redundant, but fun.
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The G55 had a max speed of 417 mph as to the max speed of 400 mph of the C-205. At least this is what I have found, could be wrong.
As far as redundant, the P47 M and N are the same as far as speed. I think a couple of the Corsair's are real close in speed. The P38 J and L are the same speed.
If I am wrong, I stand corrected. :salute
Besides, we have only two Italian Planes.
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You may be considering a 1-off test prototype that got a DB603 engine and was never a production model. Much like the US-tested Ki-84, the performance was quite a bit higher than actual war-time operations allowed.
That model with the higher engine was what the Luftwaffe were interested in when they looked into producing the G.55, but the inefficient design of parts and machine tools meant it took way more man-hours to build a single airframe than it did any of the German designs at the time, and they never pursued it after the fall of Italy.
P.S. I'd like to see an EWA bomber or two, either the G.50 or C.200 (nearly identical in performance and weaponry, so either/or), and some other designs to flush out the Italian planes a bit.
I'd love to see a Serie -0 version of the G.55 with a nose cannon and 4x 12.7mm all clustered in the nose (and synchronized), as well as a Serie -1 version, which ditched that loadout and put 3x 20mm and 2x 12.7mm because it was too hard to service the guns on the lower side of the nose. I'd love to see the C.200 for the sake of just using 90% of the C.202's existing model/shape and plugging a radial engine on the front. It would be like the P-47M in that it uses a lot of already-existing geometry. On the other hand, I wouldn't want a Macchi monopoly, so seeing a G.50 instead would be kind of cool just for variety's sake.
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I apologize for my misinformation on the G55. I have not read that the faster one's were prototypes. I beg forgiveness for my ignorance. :o
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How about an M.S. 406 because we don't have a single French aircraft. It's early war but it would get France in the door.
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MORE FAST FIGHTERS!!!!! :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt:
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MORE FAST FIGHTERS!!!!! :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :bolt:
Grow a set and learn to kill in a slower ride. :aok
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Grow a set and learn to kill in a slower ride. :aok
If only everyone thought the same way you did.
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MORE FAST FIGHTERS!!!!!
Falcon 4.0, anyone?
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The last time I took up a Jap Zero (YESTERDAY) I shot down the FUGITIVE! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :devil
Kimo
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The last time I took up a Jap Zero (YESTERDAY) I shot down the FUGITIVE! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :devil
Kimo
Want to bet? I haven't played the game in over a week.
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As far as redundant, the P47 M and N are the same as far as speed. I think a couple of the Corsair's are real close in speed. The P38 J and L are the same speed.
not true-P-47M about 30 to 40 mph faster--M model is lighter than N model by approx.: 842 pds.
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not true-P-47M about 30 to 40 mph faster--M model is lighter than N model by approx.: 842 pds.
Where did you get those numbers? The charts in the game show the N model (16700lbs.) to be almost as fast (WEP) as the M (14647lbs.) At equal fuel duration loads the weights are much closer, and the speeds should be closer still.
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Voted for G55 way back when..
Think we ended up with the B29
It was on the cards for awhile..
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It would be nice to see a G55, but I think we could use an Italian bomber first.
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It would be nice to see a G55, but I think we could use an Italian bomber first.
But which one? Early War is kind of a non-starter these days. You want something not too uber, but not too useless.
SM.79 is really the only one worth considering. It's iconic. It's also slow, weak, undergunned, and very light bomb load. It's an early war icon but one that wouldn't get an iota of use in the main arena.
P.108? Not very representative. 36 built. 4-engines, better bombload (but still not close to existing planes in the late war set), about as much defensive guns as a B-25C. Low ceiling. It would be a big target.
The only other options are the fixed gear SM 80-series, and that's going to go over as well as a Ju-52 would.
Where did you get those numbers? The charts in the game show the N model (16700lbs.) to be almost as fast (WEP) as the M (14647lbs.) At equal fuel duration loads the weights are much closer, and the speeds should be closer still.
Exactly.
P-47M and N have the exact same engine. The weight differences are mostly fuel and ammo. There is about 400-and-change extra pounds of weight due to the extension of the wings at the wing roots. Funny enough, the squared wing tips and the redesigned ailerons increased roll rate by almost exactly the same amount as the lengthened wingspan slowed it down. Net result: It loses no performance. The flaps are also slightly longer because the extension was at the wing root, compensating for the extra weight of the additional wing length and the hardware for storing and pumping fuel in the wings.
If weights were equal, the P-47N would be a P-47M. They came at different times for different reasons, you might say, but ended up very similar. One was for short hops across the channel, and the other was for flying to Japan and back.
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Where did you get those numbers? The charts in the game show the N model (16700lbs.) to be almost as fast (WEP) as the M (14647lbs.) At equal fuel duration loads the weights are much closer, and the speeds should be closer still.
went to an airfield and pulled up the speed charts for each plane-showed the M being a little faster. was just a guess at how much faster--in the hanger with the fuel set at 25% and no bombs or extra tanks the M showed to be lighter--the N carries 3 bomb racks and rocket racks- so to me it would be heavier and slower..but if you want I can go online an do a proper research.
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went to an airfield and pulled up the speed charts for each plane-showed the M being a little faster. was just a guess at how much faster--in the hanger with the fuel set at 25% and no bombs or extra tanks the M showed to be lighter--the N carries 3 bomb racks and rocket racks- so to me it would be heavier and slower..but if you want I can go online an do a proper research.
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=83&p2=102&pw=2>ype=0&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/components/com_ahplaneperf/genchart.php?p1=83&p2=102&pw=2>ype=2&gui=localhost&itemsel=GameData)
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Bell P-63 Kingcobra please
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France needs love
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk176/Michael_Stillwell/dewoitine_D520_tlaurent_zpslbmdsaam.jpg)
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An efficient way to give France something might be to take a P-40C model and modify the shape from an inline Allison engine to a Pratt and Whitney radial, creating the Curtiss H75 Hawk. (and the P-36 at the same time).
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Well if it is like the Fiats friends of mine have owned then be ready for it to rust out right after the electronics in the care go haywire.
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Well if it is like the Fiats friends of mine have owned then be ready for it to rust out right after the electronics in the care go haywire.
:rofl
Id like the F 35 Joint strike fighter.....and given the rate that development is going...Im thinking it should be ready by the time AHXXVII comes out.
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An efficient way to give France something might be to take a P-40C model and modify the shape from an inline Allison engine to a Pratt and Whitney radial, creating the Curtiss H75 Hawk. (and the P-36 at the same time).
Considering something like 2/3 or 3/4 of all kills during the Battle of France were from Hawks, this is to me the best option. The second best option would be the MS.406, making up the rest of France's air force at the same time.
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The H75 Hawk sounds like a fun little ride :aok