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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: caldera on October 22, 2016, 12:11:18 PM
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Not referring to that Men at Work song, which is awesome by the way, but the separating of the population on the AH clipboard.
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/mistake1.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/mistake1.jpg.html)
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/mistake2.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/mistake2.jpg.html)
The reasons are twofold: It only shows limited choices of arenas, which excludes the events arenas and also makes the total population look smaller.
If you want people in special events, show them the arena numbers before they log into Melee, in addition to the current message displayed when you enter the arena. And numbers attract numbers. Dividing the numbers into tabs doesn't make the numbers or therefore the game, look good.
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I agree Caldera. At least combine MA and SEA's together
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When was this picture taken?
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From just a few minutes before posting, about 1 PM EST.
Numbers right now: Melee 80, SE 114.
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Thank you :salute
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So what is it you want? A single total showing 200 people in the game, then getting all mad when you go into the MA to find only 30 of those 200 in there? Will you then come here to complain about not knowing how many players are in an arena before you go in it?
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A squaddie just called me, asking where the action was. For him it showed plain zeros on Melee. When I said they were in the scenario, he opened the game again and found the right numbers.
For someone who doesn't know the tab system might be a little confusing. The straightforward list of AH2 showed in one glimpse where everyone was. The simple approach might still work.
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So what is it you want? A single total showing 200 people in the game, then getting all mad when you go into the MA to find only 30 of those 200 in there?
No. He wants all the arenas shown on a single page again. :)
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So what is it you want? A single total showing 200 people in the game, then getting all mad when you go into the MA to find only 30 of those 200 in there? Will you then come here to complain about not knowing how many players are in an arena before you go in it?
Chill out, Hillary. I thought the issue was presented clearly. The tab system is a mistake. Listen to these guys:
A squaddie just called me, asking where the action was. For him it showed plain zeros on Melee. When I said they were in the scenario, he opened the game again and found the right numbers.
For someone who doesn't know the tab system might be a little confusing. The straightforward list of AH2 showed in one glimpse where everyone was. The simple approach might still work.
No. He wants all the arenas shown on a single page again. :)
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Chill out, Hillary. I thought the issue was presented clearly. The tab system is a mistake. Listen to these guys:
Maybe a simple statement, instead of big pictures and all the extra verbiage, would have made the suggestion more clear.
Whatever.
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I agree with the OP, I think all the arenas should be on the same page. Most people don't even think twice before automatically clicking on the Melee arena.
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Have to agree with the OP on this one. Heck I never even noticed the tabs at the top of the page until he pointed them out. Old habits are hard to break you know.
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+1
I suppose to further this, I'd like to see the special events arenas be able to change their names to show what event is going on. Something like...
Tunisia Scenario - SEA 1
FSO - SEA 2
Or something similar. Of course, this one is a bit of a stretch, as I imagine the only ones capable of doing this are the crew at HTC themselves.
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I thought there was no FSO yersterday night till my squadies told me where to look via inter-arena squad ch.
I agree :cheers:
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This was discussed on the Axis Scenario teamspeak when HiTech was on. I would expect some sort of indicator of player population per tab displayed in the near future.
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I concur. I wanted to join in last night, started game 5 minutes before "flight open" time. Between update, map for melee - wondering why there isn't A66 for knights, figuring out i'm in wrong arena, finding right one, downloading the map......... flight was closed.
Until the day comes that we have more then 10 arenas populated - i think tab control confuses people and creates impresson that there are less people around...
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The clarity of this, showing the numbers of each arena at a glance:
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/help/flight-help/arenalist.gif)
In my opinion tabs would be needed when the arenas don't fit on a single page which looks like 14 arenas. Even in such a case two tabs should suffice: The main tab for populated arenas, the other for inactive ones.
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Translation of the moan please :old:
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Almost every program and app used today has tabs. Someone not knowing tabs today would have to be a novice at computing, using a cell phone, a kiosk, many games. Almost like they did not exist one day then did the next.
This Scenario has been planned for some time and lots of information has been posted about it. Folks have been able to load the terrain for awhile in the assigned arena. Just all of the sudden not knowing anything about it is odd.
That being said, I really do not see an advantage to using tabs in the arena selection. I am not privy to any planned future expansion, but at least for now, why do we need them...
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In the MA there has been arena message for days advertising the event. I do see your point though.
Tunisia was a blast by the way. We kicked but and got our butt kicked too.
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No. He wants all the arenas shown on a single page again. :)
Might make sense. Might even get a few people into the mission arena when nothing is going on in the main if they see its there and that there are any kid of numbers there.
People tend to want to be where the crowd is. That has never nor will it ever change. BUT if like last night you log into the MA and see big blobs attacking nothing defending. Rather then log off like I did. One might be more likely to enter one of the other (currently tabbed) arenas if they see other people there.
Orrr just include total numbers for each tab in the tab itself
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I would like to see the SEA arenas put in the correct order... 1 on top of 2.
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I would like to see the SEA arenas put in the correct order... 1 on top of 2.
+1
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I have no problem with the way it is now-but again I been playing like most of you for me since 2007 or so-but recruits may not understand -like u guys are saying. and it should be--needs to be changed.
but maybe this needs to be in wishlist
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I really do not see an advantage to using tabs in the arena selection.
<Fonzarelli voice> "Exactamundo."
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There's a different tab? :rofl
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Good points. Remember the Lobby from AH2? What would be the BEST way to ADVERTISE ongoing action in the game? I believe (not sure) that Lusche would agree with me when I said that in the old system folks tended to log into the arena that was on top (reminiscent of Blue and Orange arenas).
I like the tab idea in that, "Melee" interprets into player vs. player combat. "Missions" relays the message of clearly defined objectives or solo involvement. "Events" here again, is a concise indicator of "planned" scheduled additions to the "regular" game play.
What I would propose, is a flashing and or color change in any tab that has more than zero population other than your current tab. So that, in the screen shots of OP, logging in under the default Melee tab, the Events tab would be flashing to indicate there is activity and therefore immediately bringing the casual observers attention to that tab.
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Good points. Remember the Lobby from AH2? What would be the BEST way to ADVERTISE ongoing action in the game? I believe (not sure) that Lusche would agree with me when I said that in the old system folks tended to log into the arena that was on top (reminiscent of Blue and Orange arenas).
I like the tab idea in that, "Melee" interprets into player vs. player combat. "Missions" relays the message of clearly defined objectives or solo involvement. "Events" here again, is a concise indicator of "planned" scheduled additions to the "regular" game play.
What I would propose, is a flashing and or color change in any tab that has more than zero population other than your current tab. So that, in the screen shots of OP, logging in under the default Melee tab, the Events tab would be flashing to indicate there is activity and therefore immediately bringing the casual observers attention to that tab.
If you really want tabs, put them on the side like this:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/tabs2.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/tabs2.jpg.html)
The colors would have "melee", "training", "events" and "offline missions" written vertically in the colors, but I don't know how to do that with MS Paint. :headscratch:
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If you really want tabs, put them on the side like this:
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/tabs2.jpg~original) (http://s343.photobucket.com/user/caldera_08/media/tabs2.jpg.html)
The colors would have "melee", "training", "events" and "offline missions" written vertically in the colors, but I don't know how to do that with MS Paint. :headscratch:
When you open the box on your pallet to type in transparent, make the color 1 box in the tool bar whatever color you want. You would have to erase the current writing on image.
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What about those who are color blind? :devil
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What about those who are color blind? :devil
They shoot at everyone in the game and sort it out later. :D
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I'm kind of inclined to agree. Sort order should have some thought in it, like MA, then whatever scenarios are running at the moment, and soforth. But I think it's a bad idea to have the best part of the game hidden from casual observance. Especially events where walkons are in play.
If you look at most games these days, anything that's different from normal gameplay like an event is splashed all freaking over the login screen to drum up interest for it, often for days before it occurs.
Wiley.
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I'm kind of inclined to agree. Sort order should have some thought in it, like MA, then whatever scenarios are running at the moment, and soforth. But I think it's a bad idea to have the best part of the game hidden from casual observance. Especially events where walkons are in play.
If you look at most games these days, anything that's different from normal gameplay like an event is splashed all freaking over the login screen to drum up interest for it, often for days before it occurs.
Wiley.
:aok I think we all agree with OP there was not enough attention drawn to the Special Events Tab. Also should take note the number of participants in Special Event was higher than the Main Arena... at least from the screen shot.
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The clarity of this, showing the numbers of each arena at a glance:
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/help/flight-help/arenalist.gif)
In my opinion tabs would be needed when the arenas don't fit on a single page which looks like 14 arenas. Even in such a case two tabs should suffice: The main tab for populated arenas, the other for inactive ones.
that screen shot makes me sad