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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: JesterPgh on November 01, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
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I don't know what the deal is. Firstly, I'll admit, I'm "old", and I have some bad flying habits that I am actively working on breaking. I don't know whether it's my controllers, my mapping or whatever, with dead zones and so forth, or if it's just "me". I'm not new to combat flight sims, if you recall such titles as The Dam Busters and F-15 Strike Eagle (Some of 1985s finest DOS programs lol)...so yeah. That and everything in between then and now... I've, until recently, never really had a problem putting hits on the bad guys. I'm not claiming to be some kind of ace, I'm just saying I've never been this "bad" at combat flight sims in my life. Maybe I just gotta vent, I don't know. It's awfully frustrating at this point.
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Sounds like you should schedule some training. :D
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Jester, it's not that you're "bad" at flight sims or getting hits, it's just that you've jumped into what is the highest tier in terms of skill out there in the SIM gaming world of air combat. The old saying of being tossed in the "deep end", here, it's like being tossed into the ocean over a trench 5 miles deep.
If you were only fighting guys with the same amount of time in this game, you wouldn't consider yourself to be struggling most likely, but since you're flying against a group where the huge, huge majority is pretty skilled, where even "average joe" will fly rings around newcomers...you aren't doing anything wrong, and nothing IS wrong, it's just the order of things here.
Good news for you is, you learn quickly in this environment, the old "you don't learn unless you lose" adage is as true here as any other competitive environment. Also, most importantly, as the previous poster said, you as a new player have access to all kinds of guys, from official Trainers to others that are just happy to help out, who will fly 1v1 in the training arena. This type of instruction, personal 1 on 1, will give your abilities a HUGE spike up on the chart in short periods of time. This is your best option in my opinion, take some training, it's free, and effective.
Again, don't worry about the struggling feelings you're getting while playing, we have ALL been there, every single one of us, and frequently can return to that feeling on any given night - and that's part of what makes this particular game special, it is the very tip of the spear when it comes to skill, and you're already in the middle of it. You'll improve, is a virtual certainty, it's just up to you how you wish to go about it, on your own, or with expert help.
Another thing you can do is ask one of the real expert pilots in the main arena to let you ride shotgun and watch them as they play, and have them talk to you on vox, describing exactly what they are doing - record these sessions, and you can pick things apart later and add them to your toolbox of knowledge.
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I've, until recently, never really had a problem putting hits on the bad guys.
Are you new to Aces High Jester or have you played it for a while and you've recently had trouble with your gunnery?
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Some time in the TA with the lead calc.gunsight may help!
I'm in the TA most week nights between 9 pm and 11 pm est.If you drop by I;ll let you shoot at me and see if I cant help with your controls or shooting,whatever the issue really is.
The ballistics in AH is very life like,all rounds have different speeds,drops and rate of fire. Often I find players just arent leading enough and/or their controllers are causing issues.
I would be glad to assist you,just drop in the TA and say hey!
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I will definitely agree, there are many very very skilled pilots here. I likely do need time in the TA, and will try to get in there much more often. To answer a question, I'm new to Aces High. I've been doing it since September, and I'm not sure how many hours I have in to this point, but I'm sure that does have a good bit to do with it as well. Probably due to how my mind is wired, and having always gravitated towards the most realistic I could get, this to me should have been more of a transition; like going from a Softail to an E-glide...same concept, same thing, different characteristics and with very little saddle time, no issues. But it's been more like going from a tricycle to an AN-225 with no instructor and an inability to read Russian.
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This month I celebrate 10 years in AH. I looked back at my scores the first month I played. I had a .08 k/d. Six months later, I still hadn't broken 1.0 k/d.
AH isn't an easy game to play. Get some training, take baby steps, set small goals. One thing I can say that will help you get better faster (after time with a trainer) is joining a squad. Most people find the mutual support, and examples you can follow will get to a better place faster (and it's funner too)
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I will definitely agree, there are many very very skilled pilots here. I likely do need time in the TA, and will try to get in there much more often. To answer a question, I'm new to Aces High. I've been doing it since September, and I'm not sure how many hours I have in to this point, but I'm sure that does have a good bit to do with it as well. Probably due to how my mind is wired, and having always gravitated towards the most realistic I could get, this to me should have been more of a transition; like going from a Softail to an E-glide...same concept, same thing, different characteristics and with very little saddle time, no issues. But it's been more like going from a tricycle to an AN-225 with no instructor and an inability to read Russian.
Welcome to Aces High, many in the community can and will help you if you ask. Just ask on 200 when your on if anyone is willing to give some informal training.....if you have the basics of flight from the other simulators you will excel quickly in Aces High with a little repetition....The guy who kills you repeatedly is often a very good person to ask for help....in most cases.
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Welcome to the game Jester :aok The learning curve here is a bit steep...but make sure you take Morfiend up on the TA time, all the trainers are really good folks and will probably do more in 30minutes to help you than weeks of you just trying trial and error in the main arenas.
Gmans post should be a sticky.....hit the nail on the head is an understatement.
If you ever see me on, feel free to reach out, shoot me a PM in game....I'd be happy to play target for you.
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Welcome! As stated, take up Morfiend on his offer. He will be able to tell how your controls are set by just following you in the game.
Ive been here 12 years and still drop in now and then to get tips from Morfiend.
Aim is a big thing in this game. It took me years to get it figured out. As an old man as well Im sure my failing eye site isn't helping either. :neener:
Again, welcome aboard, and when the frustration mounts, reach out to other players either here on the boards, or if you join a squad through them. Your welcome to fly with us "Ronin". As summer is winding down players are coming back and your sure to find one of us on line.
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Yet another reason I like it here. Real support. Not stupidity like "Just get gud". I had intention to try to hit the TA last night, but I got called out and was unable. That's another thing I have to figure out how to get setup is the vox. It's on my system end, so it'll be some trial and error until I get that sorted, but I'll get it sorted. That's a huge handicap, not being able to say what you need to say when you need to say it.
I should also note, in game, I'm Jim74, everyone's favorite easy target lol.
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Jim,
As I said I'm in the TA most week nights,Fridays I reserve to actually play AH so it's the one night I dont usually offer alot of help! Oh and Saturday nights my wife takes my toys away and doesnt let me play at all but every other night I'm available.
I can help you get your vox sorted out and I know just enough about computers to really mess them up.... :rofl :rofl
Come and spend an hour or so and I should be able to get you on your way to being a AH killer!!!
Mostly though I promote FUN!
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Howdy Jester. Welcome, and glad you are apart of the community. Ive been here for 11 years. When I first started, I didn't know how to type for a week. I thought I'd be amazing after playing Combat Flight Sim. Well, it turns out I was pretty much in the same position you are haha.This game is hard and is so unforgiving. I've had many nights of fun, anger, and intensity. It's one of the best "survival of the fittest" games out there. Through the years, I've learned so much about flying, air combat (in video games), ACM, Situational awareness, and understanding the fight.
Let me give you a few tips to help you learn to be better:
1. Work on your 1v1 skills with a Trainor. It will critically help you become better in the MA. Help you become better at timing, E management, and stick feeling.
2. Ask to hop in someone's plane who is really good in the MA. Watch how they fly, utilize E management, how they set up shots, and how they get away from danger. You can fly with me in my plane, (violator), if we see each other on, and I'll show you how I fly.
3. Don't be afraid to be aggressive. You don't have to fly timid and at 30K to get kills. Learn how to get in and get out. Learn when to keep your speed, when to dive, how to dive (spiral dive) and be patient for the right attack. This will help you become more comfortable in your flying, and you will get more kills.
4. Learn defensive maneuvers with a Trainor 1v1. This will drastically improve your life performance. It's so important in AH. You must check your 6 constantly. Plan defensive maneuvers through timing and distance. It's more advanced, but learning these things will greatly improve your life and performance and you will get more kills.
5. Join a squad. The "pings in the wings" or " 367th Dynamite gang" ect. These squads will greatly help you improve in all aspects of the game. You will have a lot of fun.
6. Fly planes like the Ki84, N1K2, 190D, spit8. They are balanced, they are great for training, they will help you learn basic ACM easier, hold a lot of ammo, easier to fly than others. Use planes like KI84 Nik and spit to learn turn fighting techniques, use the 190D for BnZ techniques. These planes are the best for learning how to be comfortable will stalling and E management.
7 . E management and stalling are important in AH. Work on these concepts. Stalling and using flaps with throttle can you turn inside planes much easier, sometimes being heavy on the stick is good. Using E and being light on stick will help you gain advantages and get out of trouble. Both are very important to success. When and how to use them is the process of practicing and getting use to the feeling of your planes. Really try to learn how to read other players E. It will greatly help you in timing of maneuvers and what you can get away with.
6. Learn how to merge on your enemies. Merges are very important. Setting up the shot, getting in close on their 6, getting the angle advantage, are all important to the merge. Not just head on merges, but any type of merge. Work on getting your nose out infront of theirs, and getting the angle for a shot.
7. Read external sources about ACM, merging, and E management.
This game takes a lot of practice and dedication. It's all about how good you want to be. Practice and practice. 1v1 fighting will greatly help you. Learn how the planes fly. Learn the planes strengths and weaknesses to help you win fights. This all takes time and experience of course. Don't get discouraged.Its a very challenging game, but that makes it fun and the reason why I keep playing. You can fly easy planes, hard planes, and always challenge yourself to get better. It will help a lot.
What is your in-game name? If I see you on, I'll gladly take you up and show you a few things about what I've discussed.
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Hold the trigger down and dont stop until you see an explosion.
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Seriously though, spending some time with the lead computing gunsight offline will do wonders.
It should be enabled in the TA too IIRC.
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it's just that you've jumped into what is the highest tier in terms of skill out there in the SIM gaming world of air combat.
Um, no... maybe from 2008-2012, but those days are long over.
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Yet another reason I like it here. Real support. Not stupidity like "Just get gud". I had intention to try to hit the TA last night, but I got called out and was unable. That's another thing I have to figure out how to get setup is the vox. It's on my system end, so it'll be some trial and error until I get that sorted, but I'll get it sorted. That's a huge handicap, not being able to say what you need to say when you need to say it.
I should also note, in game, I'm Jim74, everyone's favorite easy target lol.
Well, now that we know what name you fly under we can "assume" a few things by your score.
First, we know you fly german planes mostly and to many that could be your biggest problem :neener: Your hit percentage is above average, so when you DO get in a firing position you really are hitting well. You have a lot more deaths than kills.
Now the assumptions. German planes are pure fighters. They are squirrely to handle because they were made to get the very most out of the planes. This means there is very little margin for error. They are mostly used for boom and zoom type fighting especially in a crowd. In a turn fight the 109 are "ok", but are no were near the wildcats, zeros, and spits, so if your in a crowd even the 109 should stay with some good energy. Im thinking your getting a bit too deep going for the kill. If you get into a neg energy state your going to be in trouble because most are quicker, or turn better.
Another thing, is your fighting "alone" with out other to watch your back and so are dieing..... a lot. It happens. Once you start working with others, communicating (got to get the vox working) and just being friendly they will start looking out for you more.
Practice, learning the physics of this game (best corning speeds, angles to take to get on a guy with out blowing your E, knowing who is busy and so less likely to see you coming,) and communicating with others will help you along. Your aim is well above average, you just need to learn how to fly in the Aces High skies!
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While I was able to get into the TA a little bit last night, it ended up with mostly sorting out the vox, which I think is good to go now, though I'm not 100% sure.
I do have a lot of work to do, and I can see it's going to definitely take some training time. I get shot down a LOT, I don't have a problem getting aggressive in the attack, but I am conservative with the trigger. On runs where I don't end up splattered all over the virtual sky, I run out of fuel well before I run out of ammo. My survival time has generally increased, and my SA is usually good. I did have a guy pounce me last night and I never saw him til it was too late. Can't remember his name, but he did a really nice, quick job of dispatching me.
I do tend towards the German planes, mostly the D9, but a little bit of everything. No idea why, I think I just always felt that they were pretty amazing pieces of machinery, and quite capable in the right hands. My hands are clearly not the right hands yet. Every now and then I do catch myself getting caught in turn fights, and that's a huge no-no in 190s as we all know.
At any rate, I want to be here, so it's going to take some time and work to make it right. I'm not afraid to put in the work, so I'll definitely be seeing some of you in the TA.
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I`m glad you got the vox sorted,remember you can test vox by typing your name in radio box V and using T to transmit,you will hear yourself.
I wont be available tonight,it`s FSO night but hit me up next week and we can go over some things!
BTW,despite what Fugi says there is nothing wrong flying German iron! I tend to fly them myself..... :x
We can get working with the lead gunsight and I`ll see from that what I think I can help you with. Any question just ask.
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I don't know what the deal is. Firstly, I'll admit, I'm "old", and I have some bad flying habits that I am actively working on breaking. I don't know whether it's my controllers, my mapping or whatever, with dead zones and so forth, or if it's just "me". I'm not new to combat flight sims, if you recall such titles as The Dam Busters and F-15 Strike Eagle (Some of 1985s finest DOS programs lol)...so yeah. That and everything in between then and now... I've, until recently, never really had a problem putting hits on the bad guys. I'm not claiming to be some kind of ace, I'm just saying I've never been this "bad" at combat flight sims in my life. Maybe I just gotta vent, I don't know. It's awfully frustrating at this point.
Been here more years than I can remember......going back to the old original game via aol.
my first three years here........I kept up pretty good with others, but realized there were about 20 guys that are just going to consistently better than others...... we all know the names both then and now. anywho........I actually found out my greatest joy was taking bases. at that moment....I stopped even looking at my points. It's was once frustrating....even to the point of wanting to quit way back then...but the whole group thing with taking bases makes it all worth while. the teamwork is where it's at.
the other thing I dig is naval fights.......and I must say........I am still hoping against hope that we can add an arena just for Naval fights....I've been busting chops about it forever....and I really do hope it comes true soon. It certainly cannot be hard to add one...we have all the things we need now. like I suggested way back, if you want to add a sub that very randomly appears and then vanishes even faster, simply to shoot at.........that would be cool... and if you were lucky enough to see said sub....and sink it.......you got perkies or something....no big whoop.
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In the mean time, try a P-47. It is like flying a shotgun.
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Jester if you ever see me on, and your vox is working, I can answer some things and would be happy to. I am in the bottom 1/2 of fighter pilots here and am mostly only decent in bombers but I can answer a lot of technical stuff especially what to map, how to map it, how to set up controllers....ect .
I helped one guy immensely cause he was having a terrible time putting rounds on target. What he was doing wrong was he wasnt trimmed right so I taught him how and where to map auto trim on his controller and then taught him how and where to map manual trim. A thing so simple , when fixed , allowed him to start stacking them and having fun again.
I really recommend you get with a squad. Also keep pen and paper nearby and everytime you learn something write it down so you dont forget it. There are some really good players here so dont even worry about stats. Right now worry about getting your controllers and mapping set right. That, and learning the strengths and weaknesses of the various airplanes and vehicles and how they match up to enemy ones you end up fighting.
Spend some time with a trainer. They can help you more then anything. And hang in there, we all went thru it.