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Title: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: toddbobe on November 04, 2016, 10:06:23 AM
Hi Tech:

Can you send a crew out to demo that little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase for I cant take off with a fully loaded jug without using a ton of wep in the process. Maybe for sim reasons you want me to taxi to the other runway to take off but than I cant use my auto take off and that costs me valuable beer time. In my opinion in real life that little building would never have been put there... and in the highly unlikely event it was..... someone like me would have painted a target on its side.

Can that building be moved or removed?

Todd
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: DubiousKB on November 04, 2016, 10:18:43 AM
This was a scary and sad lesson to learn. I was calling out a phantom GV near the base before I realized I was in the toolshed at the end of the grass strip....

Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: FLS on November 04, 2016, 11:16:48 AM
Have you tried flaps?
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: DubiousKB on November 04, 2016, 11:28:29 AM
I've already learned my lesson, just sorta dinky to have to learn that particular lesson.... I'm thinking this building was placed with the last 1/64th of whatever bottle was being consumed at the time.

Minor in the grand scheme of challenges HTC and Co. are facing with AH3.      ... I am still too afraid to try a B-29 on any runway in the MA...

Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: lunatic1 on November 04, 2016, 01:30:52 PM
yep P-47s all of them   100% fuel   2 1000lb 1 500lb and 10 rockets - I crashed 3 times before I left with 1/2 tank--didna make it back
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: lunatic1 on November 04, 2016, 01:31:40 PM
OH and don't forget the trees when taking off from the hanger
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: hgtonyvi on November 04, 2016, 01:52:00 PM
OH and don't forget the trees when taking off from the hanger
I noticed this......You have to taxi to runway from hangar....
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 04, 2016, 04:24:48 PM
Hi Tech:

Can you send a crew out to demo that little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase for I cant take off with a fully loaded jug without using a ton of wep in the process. Maybe for sim reasons you want me to taxi to the other runway to take off but than I cant use my auto take off and that costs me valuable beer time. In my opinion in real life that little building would never have been put there... and in the highly unlikely event it was..... someone like me would have painted a target on its side.

Can that building be moved or removed?

Todd

You mean the "greenhouse"

Cant get rid of that. Thats where HTC grows  and stores their ganja
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: lunatic1 on November 05, 2016, 04:32:02 AM
I noticed this......You have to taxi to runway from hangar....
the whole point of taking off from the hanger is trying not to get vulched, when field is being attacked
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Vraciu on November 05, 2016, 07:20:21 AM
Hi Tech:

Can you send a crew out to demo that little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase for I cant take off with a fully loaded jug without using a ton of wep in the process. Maybe for sim reasons you want me to taxi to the other runway to take off but than I cant use my auto take off and that costs me valuable beer time. In my opinion in real life that little building would never have been put there... and in the highly unlikely event it was..... someone like me would have painted a target on its side.

Can that building be moved or removed?

Todd

+1

That stupid building took out my prop on autotakeoff. 

NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR A BUILDING.   This ain't Teterobro!
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Scca on November 05, 2016, 08:01:11 AM
Someone move this to the wishlist.

When they fix this, move the gun emplacements that are on the west spawn runway of large bases.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: The Fugitive on November 05, 2016, 09:19:11 AM
I guess a little for site and challenge is just to much trouble for some people.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: SlipKnt on November 05, 2016, 09:21:59 AM
Yeas please!!!

My first 262 run off a small field cost me 185 perkies (which actually isn't bad)...

I got on the runway, engaged my brakes and ran up the RPMs until they hit 9 then released the breaks and started to build up speed.

As soon as I realized what was happening it was too late.  As the nose JUST started to roll I was in the tower.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Scca on November 05, 2016, 11:00:34 AM
I guess a little for site and challenge is just to much trouble for some people.  :rolleyes:
I think it's more about what moron would build a real airfield like that?
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: NatCigg on November 05, 2016, 11:56:34 AM
if they could put ords on the big runway, that'd be great.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Molsman on November 05, 2016, 02:28:54 PM
it adds to the challenge but I do agree I have scraped that building alot taking off  :devil :devil
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: save on November 05, 2016, 03:45:27 PM
Works in a fully loaded 190F8 with one step flaps and Wep, unless the base is at 5-7k alt where the supercharger don't work.


Have you tried flaps?
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: icepac on November 06, 2016, 12:17:36 AM
I'm having trouble finding pictures of a P47 fully loaded on a grass or dirt runway on the internets.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: bozon on November 06, 2016, 01:32:33 AM
That building has been planes there to be the new Ensign eliminator. Only the best pilots will be able to fly over or around it in a fully loaded jug.

Time to separate the men from the boys.  :old:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Scca on November 06, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
That building has been planes there to be the new Ensign eliminator. Only the best pilots will be able to fly over or around it in a fully loaded jug.

Time to separate the men from the boys.  :old:
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Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: 1Cane on November 06, 2016, 08:56:01 PM
The building has to go. :neener:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: save on November 07, 2016, 08:36:33 AM
Using a Jug is cheating, they have wings !

The 190s use only the sidesteps.

That building has been planes there to be the new Ensign eliminator. Only the best pilots will be able to fly over or around it in a fully loaded jug.

Time to separate the men from the boys.  :old:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: bustr on November 07, 2016, 11:44:35 AM
Isn't there two ends to every runway? What is at the other end? Or is this like that old condom excuse...... :O

Hmmmm, I knew if I looked for it behind my seat I'd find the other end of the runway......


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Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Vraciu on November 07, 2016, 03:46:38 PM
Isn't there two ends to every runway? What is at the other end? Or is this like that old condom excuse...... :O

Hmmmm, I knew if I looked for it behind my seat I'd find the other end of the runway......


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 :huh


If the spawn selected launches...   Oh never mind.  Time to add to my ignore list.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: bustr on November 07, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
Thank you, that way I don't have to remember to ignore you.....
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: pembquist on November 08, 2016, 12:15:00 AM
Meeyow!
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Scca on November 08, 2016, 09:44:22 AM
Isn't there two ends to every runway? What is at the other end? Or is this like that old condom excuse...... :O

Hmmmm, I knew if I looked for it behind my seat I'd find the other end of the runway......


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Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: LilMak on November 08, 2016, 10:04:47 AM
Meh...it's no big deal unless you forget it's there. Even the biggest heaviest fully loaded Jug (N) can manage to get off the runway.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: 1Cane on November 08, 2016, 11:32:43 AM
If you are at near sea level and you cannot clear object at end of runway on auto take off its to close and  should be removed.  I don't care what the load out is. :old:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: LilMak on November 08, 2016, 12:19:16 PM
If you are at near sea level and you cannot clear object at end of runway on auto take off its to close and  should be removed.  I don't care what the load out is. :old:
I can't fault HT for adding a little challenge. Small fields simulate makeshift frontline bases that would've had real life challenges in combat. You can't always mow down twelve thousand feet of runway.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: popeye on November 08, 2016, 12:48:56 PM
If you are at near sea level and you cannot clear object at end of runway on auto take off its to close and  should be removed.  I don't care what the load out is. :old:

Hmmm....   Good point.  If we are going to have "auto takeoff", it probably ought to work in all situations.  Imagine a newbie selecting "auto takeoff" and dying repeatedly, thinking "WTF????"
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Shuffler on November 08, 2016, 02:36:14 PM
I think they should just Paint WTF on the side of it. LoL
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: DubiousKB on November 08, 2016, 03:23:04 PM
I think they should just Paint WTF on the side of it. LoL

Love it.  :grin:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Vraciu on November 08, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
I can't fault HT for adding a little challenge. Small fields simulate makeshift frontline bases that would've had real life challenges in combat. You can't always mow down twelve thousand feet of runway.

Then make it a tree not a stupid building. 
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: JimmyC on November 08, 2016, 09:08:17 PM
It's cybros secret meth lab..
Seen him parked in there when hes not in the indestructible polishing his flute.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Vraciu on November 08, 2016, 11:07:52 PM
It's cybros secret meth lab..
Seen him parked in there when hes not in the indestructible polishing his flute.


Heisenberg.  Heisenbro.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: JunkyII on November 09, 2016, 02:59:57 PM
Before you comment with "use flaps" or "just launch the other way".....think about new players.....auto takeoff should get them in the air and off the field without hitting anything unless a base is designed in a gulch.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: icepac on November 09, 2016, 06:04:24 PM
I think I remember that warbirds auto takeoff allowed you to pass through objects until you were properly in the air.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: bustr on November 09, 2016, 09:13:51 PM
That building is a fighter hanger. The problem with which way it's aimed has to do with the AH2 to AH3 conversion program making the choice of which end points where. The new terrain I'm currently populating with fields, I'm making sure that building is not on the more favorable end for taking off. I doubt the people who have to touch up after the terrain conversion to AH3 wanted to visit every single small field. Maybe you can get Waffle to move that hanger over by Ord1 in the open grass patch if you look on the small airfield map for the location. but, that may mean all terrains on the HOST will have to have build run on them to update the modified object.

It's never as simple as ginning up a mob in the forums.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: BuckShot on November 09, 2016, 10:19:19 PM
In planes where i can't see around the nose, I use f3 and f8 to get a look out front before rolling now just to look out for the wtf building. If I'm going that way, I use flaps. I haven't hit it since I learned about it the hard way.

Good points about noobs though.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: 1Cane on November 09, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
if its to hard to move structure allow us to up on hard runway :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: toddbobe on November 16, 2016, 09:38:48 PM
That building is a fighter hanger. The problem with which way it's aimed has to do with the AH2 to AH3 conversion program making the choice of which end points where. The new terrain I'm currently populating with fields, I'm making sure that building is not on the more favorable end for taking off. I doubt the people who have to touch up after the terrain conversion to AH3 wanted to visit every single small field. Maybe you can get Waffle to move that hanger over by Ord1 in the open grass patch if you look on the small airfield map for the location. but, that may mean all terrains on the HOST will have to have build run on them to update the modified object.

It's never as simple as ginning up a mob in the forums.

Its a fighter hanger?? It doesnt look like one. its not bombable.
Todd
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: pembquist on November 17, 2016, 11:50:02 AM
Last night I watched someone run their 262 into it, I believe now the bombers get launched on pavement and the fighters get the grass. Maybe its hard to do but it would be nice if the pilot could pick which surface or failing that make it so the 2 jets and rocket got the pavement like the bombers.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Lazerr on November 17, 2016, 12:20:07 PM
Before you comment with "use flaps" or "just launch the other way".....think about new players.....auto takeoff should get them in the air and off the field without hitting anything unless a base is designed in a gulch.

This is 100% correct.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Bizman on November 17, 2016, 01:52:09 PM
Before you comment with "use flaps" or "just launch the other way".....think about new players.....auto takeoff should get them in the air and off the field without hitting anything unless a base is designed in a gulch.
Although that seems correct, there's plenty of runways where you just can't take off any plane you want into any direction. A gulch is just one example. There's seaside fields low on the beach with cliffs on the mainland side. There's downhill runways ending at a slope, the other way round they're uphill with a mountain at the end. There's runways too short for bombers or jets. And there's CV's... Although I've seen people land a Lancaster on a CV, I've witnessed many more people crash into the sea trying to take a heavy attack plane off. Auto takeoff isn't a magic trick to change the laws of physics. 
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: JunkyII on November 17, 2016, 02:00:44 PM
Although that seems correct, there's plenty of runways where you just can't take off any plane you want into any direction. A gulch is just one example. There's seaside fields low on the beach with cliffs on the mainland side. There's downhill runways ending at a slope, the other way round they're uphill with a mountain at the end. There's runways too short for bombers or jets. And there's CV's... Although I've seen people land a Lancaster on a CV, I've witnessed many more people crash into the sea trying to take a heavy attack plane off. Auto takeoff isn't a magic trick to change the laws of physics.
I agree, but what if the only direction that is not obstructed by terrain is the one with the building in the way? I just think it is absolutely a "dick move" for AH vets to just say it's alright that a player can figure it out....new guy on his 2 weeks should have a good experience...not being able to fly because of a building on a base shouldn't be a reason they can't enjoy flying certain aircraft....
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Shuffler on November 17, 2016, 04:20:17 PM
The green building is one of those European communal latrines. Do not hit it or you know what hits the fan.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: toddbobe on November 17, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
I agree with you junkie... the 2 week guys need to be able to take off with the non perk planes
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Bizman on November 18, 2016, 02:38:30 AM
I agree, but what if the only direction that is not obstructed by terrain is the one with the building in the way? I just think it is absolutely a "dick move" for AH vets to just say it's alright that a player can figure it out....new guy on his 2 weeks should have a good experience...not being able to fly because of a building on a base shouldn't be a reason they can't enjoy flying certain aircraft....

I agree on this very scenario. If they've taken the trees off the end of the runway, then there should be no buildings either. Supposedly they had some Runway Safety Areas in WW2, too.

As for being able to fly the favourite aircraft anywhere, I repeat my previous post about certain runways being too short for heavy loaded planes.
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: 1stpar3 on November 18, 2016, 02:56:27 AM
I agree on this very scenario. If they've taken the trees off the end of the runway, then there should be no buildings either. Supposedly they had some Runway Safety Areas in WW2, too.

As for being able to fly the favourite aircraft anywhere, I repeat my previous post about certain runways being too short for heavy loaded planes.
I agree, Bizman BUT....Even on a short runway they could manage a take off with that particular structure removed. I have flown numerous heavy loaded planes and just hit my landing gear. So my thinking is it should be relatively safe by just backing it up or doing away with it entirely. Ofcourse one could always just taxi to the main runway with relative ease. :neener:
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Waffle on November 19, 2016, 05:21:02 PM
I'll just make the east fighter spawn on the metal runway, and leave the west on the grass field. :)

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Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Meatwad on November 19, 2016, 05:24:59 PM
You should add a tiny sign on it that reads

"If you can read this, you are too close"
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: toddbobe on November 22, 2016, 12:41:55 AM
Thank you Waffle... Hats off to you and your staff for taking suggestions from the community.
Todd
Title: Re: That little green building at the end of the runway on the small airbase
Post by: Shuffler on November 22, 2016, 08:03:25 AM
Thank you Waffle... Hats off to you and your staff for taking suggestions from the community.
Todd

They changed the color of the building. Nice!