Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: DmonSlyr on January 04, 2017, 09:22:16 PM
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One thing I love talking about, is how to be a better fighter pilot in AH. Air combat in Aces High is so thrilling to me. There are so many situations that you cannot plan for that makes it so fun and so difficult at the same time. The plane choice can take the challenge to a whole nother level. I've dedicated ( I guess you can say that) so many hours into this game to try to become a good fighter pilot in AH. When I first started, I thought I was going to be in beast mode and kill everyone quickly, after playing MCFS and MFS for a few years. Turns out, I was so wrong it hurt. Yaws in his 109 continuously beat me down. Then I when I thought I was good from H2H, I went to the MA and DA, where Batfink and a few others beat me relentlessly, like I was a still a total noob. The level of ability was night and day. Then a squad was nice enough to invite me. At the time I only knew fighter things. This squad taught me how to Jabo, bomb, and take bases with a squad. Then they taught me the moves that would change my flying forever and turn me into a nasty definsive fighter in the MA. 2 definitive maneuvers that would forever take my fighter ability to the next level. Even though I wasnt cut out for that type of intense squad play anymore, I will forever be thankful for what they taught me. Over the years I've used this experince to help me understand the game. As you can, there is soo much to learn!
Now, I am working on ways to be better at the rolling scissors and maintaining E management.
I don't want this to turn into a training and help discussion.
What are some of the things you are working on to be better at the game or to improve your fighter/jabo/tanking/bomber skills?
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Actually shooting someone down, im very rusty from being out for a few years
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The way I get better Violater is simply to fly as many different types of fighter as possible in as many different ways as possible. I for one am a pioneer in the "BnZ Spitfire".
Mainly I'd suggest flying a couple of different aircraft per day. On different types of missions. Learn their capabilities and their do's and don'ts. I currently am dedicating my life to the Japanese plane set.
Fur Dah Emparaaa :joystick:
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Not dying
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I work on bombing wirbles and osties with JABO without getting hit.
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Setting up for the second merge after the red counters the first merge.
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I've done decent in the areas of bombing and maneuvering.
I've grown very fond of the P-38 (L and J model) over the past couple weeks, partly thanks to seeing Shuffler zip around in it. It's actually a pretty amazing aircraft.
I'd say I do need to work a bit more on my aim and getting the right amount of lead and not waste my rounds on one guy. :joystick:
Off-topic, but I definitely need to do better in tanks. I can never seem to hit the right spots while in a T34, and typically end up hitting the enemy tank between 1 - 4 times before they just turn on me, pop me once, and I'm dead. Maybe it's just bad luck and maybe it's not. :headscratch:
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I'm currently teaching myself better throttle management when inside rolling scissors. Almost got it down.
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I've been trying to work on getting back to what my skill level/abilities were at back around 2003 through 2007.... I know that it's going to be dang near impossible to achieve, but if I could at least get somewhere close, I would be OK with that....
Spek, a lot of people think that throttle management while performing a "rolling scissors" is really crucial... I would recommend working on your lead/lag, and controlling the arch/arc of your rolling turn while maintaining WOT (wide open throttle)....you should not and do not want to be coming off your throttle any at all if you can help it...use the plane's vector to gain the advantage by using steeper or shallower rolls pointing that lift vector where you need it while maintaining maximum throttle
Hope this helps
TC
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gunnery :bhead only flying for about an hour 4x a month isn't helping either. It never really clicks into place unless more hours are put in and it becomes second nature. People with really excellent gunnery, put hours in.
Right now it's horrific. When you don't fly a maneuverable plane you have to make your first shot or two really count or you die. (and I don't mean HO's)
In a more maneuverable plane the fights take much longer and can end up on the deck and it wastes a lot of ammo.
I've been using staged missions to get me into battle quicker than Melee Arena and practicing there...but normally I'm too busy.
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gunnery :bhead only flying for about an hour 4x a month isn't helping either. It never really clicks into place unless more hours are put in and it becomes second nature. People with really excellent gunnery, put hours in.
Right now it's horrific. When you don't fly a maneuverable plane you have to make your first shot or two really count or you die. (and I don't mean HO's)
In a more maneuverable plane the fights take much longer and can end up on the deck and it wastes a lot of ammo.
I've been using staged missions to get me into battle quicker than Melee Arena and practicing there...but normally I'm too busy.
Flying more intense a few days greatly improves gunnery but take a break from the game and you are back on square one....
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I want to graduate, to landing the airplane in one piece! :rofl
My stick came late yesterday, maybe that will help!
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vulching. :devil
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Every time HTC has changed versions there is a period of relearning the gunnery. :joystick:
I think the move to AH3 has been the most dramatic change. Can't say that I even see my tracers anymore but have to shoot on instinct. That may be a good thing. :airplane:
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I think im going to dedicate this month to killing 88mm soft guns, so lame.
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I've been trying to work on getting back to what my skill level/abilities were at back around 2003 through 2007.... I know that it's going to be dang near impossible to achieve, but if I could at least get somewhere close, I would be OK with that....
Spek, a lot of people think that throttle management while performing a "rolling scissors" is really crucial... I would recommend working on your lead/lag, and controlling the arch/arc of your rolling turn while maintaining WOT (wide open throttle)....you should not and do not want to be coming off your throttle any at all if you can help it...use the plane's vector to gain the advantage by using steeper or shallower rolls pointing that lift vector where you need it while maintaining maximum throttle
Hope this helps
TC
Interesting TC. Will look into that when I get a chance to fly again. Are you talking about creating more lateral separation between me and the enemy? I guess if I fly a wider circle and the enemy flies a tighter circle I will eventually get behind him but if he's cutting throttle? Idk what would happen.
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Buff killing. Flying behind them and hosing them down from 600 is suboptimal.
I know how I should approach them - I just don't have the patience.
-Mutha
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Been trying using the La-5 for base defense. Just can't seem to hit anything with its guns. I even set up a "target" offline to see where the bullets actually go -- right where they're supposed to. :headscratch:
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Spek, check your Personal Messages InBox
I took the conversation there
Violator asked that this thread please not be turned into a Help & Training/Discussion Thread............. in his opening post
<S>
TC
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I would have to say that I need to work most on my gunnery since I have been back.
also some of the other things that I have had issues with is SA and knowing when to extend to get back on top of the fight.
gaining angles and getting snapshot strikes is an issue and keeps me in the fight too long.
I have been starting to get my chops back and I am excited to know when I put it all together I will be back up to speed.
I have only flown the Pony in my flying career since the beginning of AW.
I have tried to fly other air craft but my style does not fit too well I have always been a B&Z pilot and other B&Z types with very little success. could be that i have no interest in them other than the F4U.
when I first came back I was astounded to see that the skill of everyone in AH. and that either they have improved or I was just that rusty. I think it is a little of both.
1000 deaths = Good Virtual Pilot. So club away I will play the part of the baby seal and get me re education <g>
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definitely my gunnery.. Although this has been a thing for some time, AH3 has really kicked my butt in this department... After many cries, foot stomps, broken keyboards and blasphemous filled rants, I think things may be getting better. But it is early days yet....Once I have this section down a little better my next area to improve on is my merges...especially in a multi con v me situation and fighting from an advantage...this is something I fail miserably at...
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definitely my gunnery.. Although this has been a thing for some time, AH3 has really kicked my butt in this department... After many cries, foot stomps, broken keyboards and blasphemous filled rants, I think things may be getting better. But it is early days yet....Once I have this section down a little better my next area to improve on is my merges...especially in a multi con v me situation and fighting from an advantage...this is something I fail miserably at...
You made a pretty good shot on my hetzer the other day with that ki61... :noid
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Only pulling trigger when I have a good shot and getting closer to the target before firing.
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Landing.......with all the parts I took off with
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Landing.......with all the parts I took off with
That's a tough one. You go Sir! :aok
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Trying to earn SAPP credentials.......
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trying to rocket ho more often. it's a lot of fun, specially when the other player dont know what hit him. once I killed a low flying p47 from 600 with rockets. I got accused of cheating.
semp
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For you K4 guys, I followed Waystin around in K4's this week because we may have to fly them this month in FSO. In real life at 400m the 30mm dropped 12 inches but, had a dispersion circle of 29ft. Hadn't flown a K4 in AH3 until this week, so it was an eye opener when I sat 400 dead 6 on a con, tapped the 30mm only, 6 rounds, and saw one round hit the very outside tip of the left wing. I watched a german guncam film once of a B24 being shot at with 30mm and the tracer curved to the right and hit to tip area of the right wing.
Check it out sometime offline, auto level at 300TA, pull up the target at 400. Then shoot only the 30mm and remember the rings on the target are 10 feet wide. So at 500 meters per second with a 29ft dispersion circle at 400, even with 400 as your convergence. Even if you lead a fighter with 100Mil per 100mph, you still may shoot really high, low, or in left field somewhere. Now against a bomber, probably will get hits.
I guess I'm practicing to get a K4's spinner up my cons exhaust system before I tap the trigger this month since we have three FSO Fridays ahead of us.
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You made a pretty good shot on my hetzer the other day with that ki61... :noid
hmmm.... yeah... looked at the film (not really sure what I was looking for) it shows hits directly on the top of the hatch but never thought it was possible...still don't believe it should have been.....can't even kill a M3 as easily as that happened
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For you K4 guys, I followed Waystin around in K4's this week because we may have to fly them this month in FSO. In real life at 400m the 30mm dropped 12 inches but, had a dispersion circle of 29ft. Hadn't flown a K4 in AH3 until this week, so it was an eye opener when I sat 400 dead 6 on a con, tapped the 30mm only, 6 rounds, and saw one round hit the very outside tip of the left wing. I watched a german guncam film once of a B24 being shot at with 30mm and the tracer curved to the right and hit to tip area of the right wing.
Check it out sometime offline, auto level at 300TA, pull up the target at 400. Then shoot only the 30mm and remember the rings on the target are 10 feet wide. So at 500 meters per second with a 29ft dispersion circle at 400, even with 400 as your convergence. Even if you lead a fighter with 100Mil per 100mph, you still may shoot really high, low, or in left field somewhere. Now against a bomber, probably will get hits.
I guess I'm practicing to get a K4's spinner up my cons exhaust system before I tap the trigger this month since we have three FSO Fridays ahead of us.
I'm no expert in the K4 but I really can't hit anything directly behind an enemy. Put me 400 off and in a turn bang bang.
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That's a tough one. You go Sir! :aok
I figure it should be easier than the time it took to learn to shoot over my squadies canopy :D
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I'm no expert in the K4 but I really can't hit anything directly behind an enemy. Put me 400 off and in a turn bang bang.
That's why the K4 is a little more challenging of a plane even though it has such great performance. Players have to learn how to set up crossing shots and deflection shots which is a skill that is practiced.
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Setting up for the second merge after the red counters the first merge.
You do that before and then while executing your first merge
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Every time HTC has changed versions there is a period of relearning the gunnery. :joystick:
I think the move to AH3 has been the most dramatic change. Can't say that I even see my tracers anymore but have to shoot on instinct. That may be a good thing. :airplane:
I think our east coast bullets simply dont travel as far before running our of giddyup and dropping off
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Definitely struggling to improve my gunnery. :(
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Flying over or around the trees. Still a bit tricky for me.
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Does vulching count?
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Flying over or around the trees. Still a bit tricky for me.
I have to admit that flying close to the trees and doing maneuvers close to the ground near trees, is a bit more challenging in AH 3. I do think the trees are much better, but there a ton!!!! I'd he happy to see more random civilian non shooting towns getting filled in in the the terrain. There are a ton of trees haha.
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Ur kidding right?
9 yrs ago or so I 2 strokes and a HA... I'm still playing
(mostly get my directions mixed up) but I keep trying...
no amount of help will correct the problems I have... :airplane:
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Im trying to imagine what will happen in the next 30 seconds after the merge and put myself into position to win.
As in ID his plane, consider mine, the strengths and weaknesses of each, and imagine the outcome of tactics before they happen.
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Just hop in one of the ridiculously modeled Spit 16's, Yak 3's, or La7's. Will make anyone good. Do the un-realistic stick stir flop when someone is on your six. Exploiting the flaws of the game in AH3 is worse than ever. Gaming the game=ruining it for everbody. More like play station every day.
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Just hop in one of the ridiculously modeled Spit 16's, Yak 3's, or La7's. Will make anyone good. Do the un-realistic stick stir flop when someone is on your six. Exploiting the flaws of the game in AH3 is worse than ever. Gaming the game=ruining it for everbody. More like play station every day.
New to the game, or just the forum?
I am working on just having fun. Win or lose I learn something every fight.
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Collisions !
I always seem to collide myself... I must find a way collide with someone else :furious
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Collisions !
I always seem to collide myself... I must find a way collide with someone else :furious
Shtop hit'n stuff. Good goal :)