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Title: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 27, 2017, 07:02:56 AM
I'd like to create a clipboard map that lists target hardness values, to be used when mission planning.

Thanks
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2017, 07:28:34 AM
You may take a look at the topmost sticky thread in this section.

In game, you find target hardness under options->arena setup->objects->object settings
Hardness is given as fraction (or multiple) of 1,000 lbs bomb.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 27, 2017, 11:39:41 AM
You may take a look at the topmost sticky thread in this section.

In game, you find target hardness under options->arena setup->objects->object settings
Hardness is given as fraction (or multiple) of 1,000 lbs bomb.

Ah, thanks Lusche. 

The CV is not listed under the Object Settings - how did you find that value?   Also, only 1 type of is "Ship" listed - am I to understand that the Cruisers and Destroyers can withstand an equal amount of damage before sinking?
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2017, 11:57:47 AM
The CV is not listed under the Object Settings - how did you find that value? 

Ancient lore & testing ;)

Also, only 1 type of is "Ship" listed - am I to understand that the Cruisers and Destroyers can withstand an equal amount of damage before sinking?

Yes, ship hardness and downtimes are identical
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 27, 2017, 12:07:34 PM
Hi Lusche -

I just went online to do some testing, attacked a Vehicle base and each time I killed an Auto Ack, it told me it would be down for 43 minutes.  I went to the object settings and I believe the downtime there says 30 minutes.   Is it not displaying the correct programmed value? I assumed these were the downtime settings assigned by the person who set up the arena.  There aren't any items with a 43 minute downtime listed, however "Structure" is listed at 45 minutes, whatever that is.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2017, 12:18:53 PM
Hi Lusche -

I just went online to do some testing, attacked a Vehicle base and each time I killed an Auto Ack, it told me it would be down for 43 minutes.  I went to the object settings and I believe the downtime there says 30 minutes.   Is it not displaying the correct programmed value? I assumed these were the downtime settings assigned by the person who set up the arena.  There aren't any items with a 43 minute downtime listed, however "Structure" is listed at 45 minutes, whatever that is.


The downtimes given in object settings are the basic downtimes. Actual downtime depends on status of the corresponding strat object (AA factory for auto guns) at the moment the object was destroyed. A totally destroyed factory adds 120 minutes to the downtime.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 27, 2017, 01:08:42 PM
Doh!  Of course, that makes sense.

What are the classes of ships we have in the game?  Are they an Essex-class carrier, Baltimore-class cruiser, and Fletcher-class destroyer?
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 27, 2017, 01:33:19 PM
What are the classes of ships we have in the game?  Are they an Essex-class carrier, Baltimore-class cruiser, and Fletcher-class destroyer?

Yes.  :old:
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 27, 2017, 07:08:36 PM
I created a Target Hardness Chart using the info you compiled Lusche, many thanks.   Posted below for review and comment.   8thJinx's clipboard maps are the new standard and I tried to match his theme as much as possible.

(http://i.imgur.com/bhJ1ODg.png)

Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Kanth on January 27, 2017, 07:44:34 PM
wow that's nice  :aok
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 28, 2017, 03:12:01 AM
I created a Target Hardness Chart


 :x

Splendid!  :old:
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: BuckShot on January 28, 2017, 08:28:14 AM
That's very nice, good work!

I thought the cruiser took twice the damage as a destroyer, no?
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 28, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
No, cruisers taks just as little. A fighter with 2x1000lbs bombs will sink it with ease.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: mustng2 on January 28, 2017, 02:11:03 PM
Very good work.  Thanks.  I don't think the CV is down for 60 minutes though.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Lusche on January 28, 2017, 02:17:40 PM
Very good work.  Thanks.  I don't think the CV is down for 60 minutes though.

Oops, I missed that one. Well spotted  :aok
CV is down for 10, the other shops are down for 60
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 28, 2017, 02:50:31 PM
I'll get that fixed and re-post.  Thanks for checking it!
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 28, 2017, 03:27:51 PM
Here's the corrected chart:

(http://i.imgur.com/iZ0FyaL.png)

Thanks again for looking it over.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: DaddyAce on January 29, 2017, 10:16:25 AM
Nice oboe!   :aok
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: BuckShot on January 29, 2017, 10:15:06 PM
The chart looks great but tastes horrible.  I'll burn it next time.
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Arlo on January 29, 2017, 11:10:22 PM
Looking forward to the chart including the Iowa class in the future. Nice job.  :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: Kanth on January 30, 2017, 12:19:50 PM
I used this chart yesterday, thanks Oboe!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Where can I find target hardness information?
Post by: oboe on January 30, 2017, 01:35:21 PM
Buckshot  :lol

Looking forward to the Iowa class BB too Arlo!   I'm chomping at the bit actually.

Thanks, all.  Kanth, glad you found it useful!