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Title: Board game flight sims
Post by: mutha on January 30, 2017, 11:39:33 AM
Forgive me/skip this if I brought up before, but sometimes I'm struck by how far we've come in games and simulations.

Back in the Paleolithic era, and by that I mean pre-home computers, some of us geezers used to play flight sims on boards, with cardboard pieces, tracking energy and altitude on paper, and rolling dice to determine hit accuracy.

A fave of mine was Avalon Hill's Richtofen's War, a WWI flight sim. It modeled engine torque (took less points to turn right than to turn left!), and had a campaign mode, and a balloon-busting tutorial. 

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/1711/richthofens-war

I also liked SPI's Foxbat and Phantom, which is where I first learned the concept of energy management and performance envelopes.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4242/foxbat-phantom

The WWII equivalent was Spitfire. Look at the paperwork involved!

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4242/foxbat-phantom

Sometimes we'd play the games by mail - send the moves on a postcard, and wait a week to get a response.  I'm not kidding.

If I knew as a kid that someday I'd be playing something like AH3, that would have made me very happy indeed.

 :salute

Mutha
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: 8thJinx on January 30, 2017, 12:19:08 PM
Hey, neat!

In a similar vein:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/194876/20170128/anthropologists-discover-38-000-year-old-engraving-on-a-limestone-slab.htm

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: mutha on January 30, 2017, 12:54:22 PM
Hey, neat!

In a similar vein:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/194876/20170128/anthropologists-discover-38-000-year-old-engraving-on-a-limestone-slab.htm

 :bolt:
GET OFF MY LAWN!!

Punk kids...


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Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 30, 2017, 01:26:22 PM
There was (or maybe still is, haven't seen him post in a bit) a forum troll by the name of Gaston that didn't play the game but would come in and try and plug his flight sim board game and bash AH.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: mutha on January 30, 2017, 01:45:18 PM
There was (or maybe still is, haven't seen him post in a bit) a forum troll by the name of Gaston that didn't play the game but would come in and try and plug his flight sim board game and bash AH.
Turn-based is really better...


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Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Vulcan on January 30, 2017, 03:04:46 PM
Anyone remember these:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/AceOfAces-Game.png)
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Blooz on January 30, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
Anyone remember these:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/AceOfAces-Game.png)

Of course! I still have mine. The Powerhouse series in the blue slipcover box. SPAD XIII vs. Fokker DVII.

I also have Mustangs by Avalon Hill, Blue Max by Stratelibri, Rise of the Luftwaffe by GMT Games and R.A.F by West End Game a gem of a solitaire Battle of Britain game.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: DaveBB on January 30, 2017, 03:56:26 PM
Board game flight sims sound about as much as making out with your own sister.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Copprhed on January 30, 2017, 04:09:19 PM
Board game flight sims sound about as much as making out with your own sister.
YEP! My best friend and I used to play Air Force and it's sister game, the name I can't recall. He would always win. When actual head to head flying on computers came about, he never could grasp it.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Rino on January 30, 2017, 04:14:53 PM
     Ha!  The first version of AW involved chiseling your move onto a
slab of granite and snail mailing it to your opponent.  Just ask Akak,
he was there, strangling dinosaurs for chisels or something  :D
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: PR3D4TOR on January 30, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
I miss the many Avalon Games I used to play back in the day. Particularly Advanced Squad Leader. I don't have anyone to play these games with anymore.  :old:
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Arlo on January 30, 2017, 04:55:27 PM
Vulcan asked
Anyone remember these:


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/AceOfAces-Game.png)

Yup. Had 2 sets. Played them with squad mates whenever we were in transit in our P-3s.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Arlo on January 30, 2017, 04:58:53 PM
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Copprhed on January 30, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I miss the many Avalon Games I used to play back in the day. Particularly Advanced Squad Leader. I don't have anyone to play these games with anymore.  :old:
Squad Leader, Cross of Iron, and more. The rule books got thick, I still remember Paw of the Tiger.
I also played Alexander and Gettysburg.That was a long time ago.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Meatwad on January 30, 2017, 06:03:12 PM
Board game flight sims sound about as much as making out with your own sister.


You make it sound like its a bad thing   :bolt:
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Arlo on January 30, 2017, 06:05:31 PM
Board game flight sims sound about as much as making out with your own sister.

Once upon a time there was no internet. ;)
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: mutha on January 30, 2017, 07:01:23 PM
Skuzzy pushed our wheelchairs from General Discussion to the O-Club.  I guess "O" stands for "old."  :old:

I loved B-17 Queen of the Skies. Names my friends as the crew, and burned through all of them before I could get 20 missions done!

-Mutha
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: TheBug on January 30, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
I miss the many Avalon Games I used to play back in the day. Particularly Advanced Squad Leader. I don't have anyone to play these games with anymore.  :old:

Can play across the internet now, real-time.  Including many other board games.    :aok

http://vasl.info/index.htm

http://www.vassalengine.org/
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Arlo on January 30, 2017, 07:05:38 PM
I loved B-17 Queen of the Skies. Names my friends as the crew, and burned through all of them before I could get 20 missions done!

-Mutha

Hehe. So did I.  :lol
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: mutha on January 30, 2017, 07:34:11 PM


Riveting!

-Mutha
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Vulcan on January 30, 2017, 08:07:38 PM
Board game flight sims sound about as much as making out with your own sister.

is your sister hot?
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: BaldEagl on January 30, 2017, 11:35:08 PM
I loved those Avalon Hill games. 

Back in the day a good friend and myself each copied/duplicated the maps and mounted them on corrugated cardboard then duplicated the pieces and mounted them on thinner pieces of cardboard.

Whenever we got together we'd bring our individual boards with the pieces pinned to the map, play a few turns, each repositioning our own maps then go home.  In between each of us had plenty of time to study the map and layout strategy for our next session.

 :aok
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: zack1234 on January 31, 2017, 10:09:19 AM
What are the resolutions of these games and are they USB or analog?
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Arlo on January 31, 2017, 10:26:07 AM
What are the resolutions of these games and are they USB or analog?

Very analog. Resolution within human spectrum.
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Ramesis on January 31, 2017, 02:41:34 PM
I miss the many Avalon Games I used to play back in the day. Particularly Advanced Squad Leader. I don't have anyone to play these games with anymore.  :old:
I still have Avalon Hill's Blitzkreig  :cheers:
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Oldman731 on January 31, 2017, 03:57:01 PM
I still have Avalon Hill's Blitzkreig 


Heh.  The Great Koufax Desert.

I started out with Avalon Hill's "Battle of the Bulge," "Afrika Korps" and "Stalingrad."  Was too young for "Tactics II."  Feeling a bit older now.  Computers have made a colossal difference in wargames (especially if you were serious about "Squad Leader"), but it's a shame that people don't get together for a night of board gaming and booze anymore.

- oldman
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Dace on February 01, 2017, 06:54:10 AM
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x48/DaceAH/Blue_Max_Board_Game_Box_1.jpg) (http://s186.photobucket.com/user/DaceAH/media/Blue_Max_Board_Game_Box_1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Lusche on February 02, 2017, 01:21:40 PM
My humble collection (just the air combat part)

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/collection_zpsmhez3bhb.jpg)


Of course nobody who know me will be surprised when I say: The best part of it was ALL THAT GLORIOUS DATA:   :banana: :banana: :banana:

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/Air%20Force%20ADC_zps55kc7rcd.jpg)
(Air Force data card)

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/OTR%20ADC_zpsqfgngwrs.jpg)
(Over the Reich/ Achtung Spitfire! data card)

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/Air%20Sup%20ADC_zpsqqxn2mb7.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/Air%20Sup%20ADC%202_zps24syosw4.jpg)
(Air Superiority/Air Strike data card front&back)

Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: PR3D4TOR on February 02, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
Can play across the internet now, real-time.  Including many other board games.    :aok

http://vasl.info/index.htm

http://www.vassalengine.org/

Not quite the same, but thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: mutha on February 02, 2017, 03:01:44 PM
My humble collection (just the air combat part)

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/collection_zpsmhez3bhb.jpg)


Of course nobody who know me will be surprised when I say: The best part of it was ALL THAT GLORIOUS DATA:   :banana: :banana: :banana:

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/Air%20Force%20ADC_zps55kc7rcd.jpg)
(Air Force data card)

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/OTR%20ADC_zpsqfgngwrs.jpg)
(Over the Reich/ Achtung Spitfire! data card)

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/Air%20Sup%20ADC_zpsqqxn2mb7.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o507/Snaildude/Air%20Sup%20ADC%202_zps24syosw4.jpg)
(Air Superiority/Air Strike data card front&back)

LOVE IT!

From this to 60 FPS.  Amazing. Though I do miss using my imagination...

-Mutha
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: Ramesis on February 02, 2017, 03:14:02 PM

Heh.  The Great Koufax Desert.

I started out with Avalon Hill's "Battle of the Bulge," "Afrika Korps" and "Stalingrad."  Was too young for "Tactics II."  Feeling a bit older now.  Computers have made a colossal difference in wargames (especially if you were serious about "Squad Leader"), but it's a shame that people don't get together for a night of board gaming and booze anymore.

- oldman

Oh ya... when I was stationed at GTMO with VC-10, we would have games that lasted weeks
because some were on day shift and others, like me, were on the night/grave shift
Though the game was slow, after work, I looked forward to seeing what the day shift had done  :aok
Btw... there was know cheating... at least with those that played  :rock
Title: Re: Board game flight sims
Post by: MrSlim on February 05, 2017, 12:47:31 AM
I actually did a lot of the artwork for this one years ago.

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x51/Badassm/airwar_zpsy7baqfco.jpg~original)

I don't think sales were so hot however. . . . :(

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/23285/airwar-pacific