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Title: A positive sign
Post by: madrid311 on February 15, 2017, 12:14:30 PM
I have seen and played with new players the last few weeks. Not a lot, but still. New meat showing An interest. That is a positive sign.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Bizman on February 15, 2017, 12:53:32 PM
Last weekend I saw some unfamiliar names, too. Very positive.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: hgtonyvi on February 15, 2017, 01:49:56 PM
I saw this also.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Lazerr on February 15, 2017, 01:58:17 PM
If anyone runs into this guy named rud3boi, lend him a hand.  I saw him doing torpedo runs on a fuel factory last weekend.

Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Arlo on February 15, 2017, 02:05:37 PM
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Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Shuffler on February 15, 2017, 02:07:49 PM
If anyone runs into this guy named rud3boi, lend him a hand.  I saw him doing torpedo runs on a fuel factory last weekend.

He's beyond help but likes to have fun.  :D
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: JimmyC on February 15, 2017, 02:31:14 PM
you should hear him on range, hysterical, he does not really have a clue but he is Keen..
Also a guy called vox cant get his engine started, we have to reach out and help these noobs
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Becinhu on February 15, 2017, 07:36:29 PM
If anyone runs into this guy named rud3boi, lend him a hand.  I saw him doing torpedo runs on a fuel factory last weekend.


Also saw him drop troops on a cv...he said it was seal team six....I think he licks windows a lot.


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Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Bushmills on February 15, 2017, 07:38:51 PM
I have seen and played with new players the last few weeks. Not a lot, but still. New meat showing An interest. That is a positive sign.

Don't panic sir!  :old:
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: 27th on February 15, 2017, 11:06:57 PM
You know what else is a great sign? (At least in the Rook side) People are willing to help when called. When people do act like dicks to them, we scold them and sometimes they apologize. 

Personally, I helped a guy from England who have been playing War Thunder for years. I explained the importance of strats, porking, functions on the clipboard to help with intelligence, etc. He was ecstatic of the gameplay. He told me that he was going to get his roommate signed up.

 :salute

27th

Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: hgtonyvi on February 15, 2017, 11:30:29 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Lazerr on February 16, 2017, 01:01:15 AM

Also saw him drop troops on a cv...he said it was seal team six....I think he licks windows a lot.


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Damn he had me convinced seal team 6 was real in this game... :D

If you guys care to mention any of the new folks callsigns in this thread, I'm sure it would help us extend help to them.

All of us have something to offer up after all these years.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Bruv119 on February 16, 2017, 03:12:24 AM
You know what else is a great sign? (At least in the Rook side) People are willing to help when called. When people do act like dicks to them, we scold them and sometimes they apologize. 

Personally, I helped a guy from England who have been playing War Thunder for years. I explained the importance of strats, porking, functions on the clipboard to help with intelligence, etc. He was ecstatic of the gameplay. He told me that he was going to get his roommate signed up.

 :salute

27th4

what was his game id?  have struggled in recent years to find any new recruits from the homeland.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: bozon on February 16, 2017, 06:11:40 AM

Also saw him drop troops on a cv...he said it was seal team six....I think he licks windows a lot.


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That is briliant!
Put it on the wishlist forum - capturing enemy CV via boarding action!  :banana:
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: OldNitro on February 16, 2017, 08:32:02 AM
Can anyone name a few basic/common defensive and offensive maneuvers that I can research and practice before I come into the online AH world? Right now I fly a few offline sorties every morning and evening, practicing gunnery and landing.

Now that I can finally land without crashing and looking like a dork, (most times)!  :rofl

Ready to add a few new elements to my practice sessions. :joystick:
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: bozon on February 16, 2017, 09:49:52 AM
Can anyone name a few basic/common defensive and offensive maneuvers that I can research and practice before I come into the online AH world? Right now I fly a few offline sorties every morning and evening, practicing gunnery and landing.

Now that I can finally land without crashing and looking like a dork, (most times)!  :rofl

Ready to add a few new elements to my practice sessions. :joystick:
just jump right in!
landing skills are not required - you will not be making a lot of landings in the beggining...
getting better means a lot of deaths in the arena. you learn a lot more from fights you lose than from fights you win.

1. fly jabo missions. this will give you a sense of purpose, vs. flying into furballs and dying. Repeatedly. cooperation with other players will create friends.

2. get into a squadron. AH is a social game even more than a combat sim. you are not married to the squad, so this is not such a big decision. just go for it.

3. enable auto recording of flights. if you got into an interesting fight, save the file and observe it with the film viewer. answering "how did I lose that fight?" and "what should have I done" for actual fights will teach you more than any offline practice.

4. Above all - keep it fun! again, getting into a squadron completely changes this game, and much for the better!
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Lazerr on February 16, 2017, 09:54:31 AM
Can anyone name a few basic/common defensive and offensive maneuvers that I can research and practice before I come into the online AH world? Right now I fly a few offline sorties every morning and evening, practicing gunnery and landing.

Now that I can finally land without crashing and looking like a dork, (most times)!  :rofl

Ready to add a few new elements to my practice sessions. :joystick:

Here is where having a free arena where.paying customers can interact with new guys that maybe arent playing in the MA.


You have any time this weekend we can meet in the DA?  I will let you shoot at me and explain evasives to you as I do them.

I am central time.. shoot out some poissible times that may work for you
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Becinhu on February 16, 2017, 10:43:18 AM
Here is where having a free arena where.paying customers can interact with new guys that maybe arent playing in the MA.


You have any time this weekend we can meet in the DA?  I will let you shoot at me and explain evasives to you as I do them.

I am central time.. shoot out some poissible times that may work for you


Lazer is a great stick to learn from. Just be forewarned at some point during the lesson he will ask you if you like to watch movies about gladiators.


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Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Shuffler on February 16, 2017, 11:57:25 AM

Lazer is a great stick to learn from. Just be forewarned at some point during the lesson he will ask you if you like to watch movies about gladiators.


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He will also have trouble finding his plane late in the evening.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: hgtonyvi on February 16, 2017, 01:14:21 PM
He will also have trouble finding his plane late in the evening.
This is a fact.  :rofl
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: OldNitro on February 16, 2017, 07:27:49 PM
Here is where having a free arena where.paying customers can interact with new guys that maybe arent playing in the MA.


You have any time this weekend we can meet in the DA?  I will let you shoot at me and explain evasives to you as I do them.

I am central time.. shoot out some poissible times that may work for you

I'm not quite there yet. Still waiting on some hardware, (Stick).
Then there is getting used to new stick/buttons routine.

I have been toss bombing GV's from 1k with an A20, my aim is improving!
I guess, a list of "Productive game skills" is what I'm looking for.

I think I'm more of a, "base taking war winner type", than a "furballer".
More objective oriented, than pilot vs pilot personal competition.

But when I decide to take my free 2 weeks, I will be looking for training!
Thanks :salute
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: The Fugitive on February 16, 2017, 08:50:41 PM
Can anyone name a few basic/common defensive and offensive maneuvers that I can research and practice before I come into the online AH world? Right now I fly a few offline sorties every morning and evening, practicing gunnery and landing.

Now that I can finally land without crashing and looking like a dork, (most times)!  :rofl

Ready to add a few new elements to my practice sessions. :joystick:


A barrel roll defense, a break turn, and a split S are most likely the top 3 defensive moves.

Barrel roll, used more often on a guy that is dropping in on you with a big speed difference (tho you can use it with a small speed difference tougher and different timing). The idea is you fly around the inside edge of a barrel, while the bad guy blows strait through.

Break turn, as a guy is closing you start a turn (more often than not nose down a bit to build speed, and to make them build MORE speed) As they get closer and closer you tighten your turn more and more. The tighter the turn the easier for them to black out trying to turn harder (to pull lead for a shot).

Split S, just a hard evasive, roll over and pull on the stick hard to get into a sharp dive, pick and angle to "egress" (run!) that is harder for the bad guy to take with out blacking out or burning a ton of E.

Im sure someone who is a bit better at this can explain it better, but its a start for you. Hope to see you in the air soon!
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: 27th on February 16, 2017, 11:12:33 PM
what was his game id?  have struggled in recent years to find any new recruits from the homeland.

Your post have drove me nuts today because the person's game id from England who I was helping out, escapes me. When I remember or see him.. I will let you know. Maybe one of my squaddies (Slingn) will remember. He was the one who invited him or her to our vox channel.

 :salute

27th
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: JimmyC on February 17, 2017, 01:18:59 AM
Don't let bruv have him..he' ll turn him Japanese..
I really think so
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2017, 07:11:03 AM
I am turning Japanese I really think so
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Max on February 17, 2017, 08:00:11 AM
Can anyone name a few basic/common defensive and offensive maneuvers that I can research and practice before I come into the online AH world? Right now I fly a few offline sorties every morning and evening, practicing gunnery and landing.


Welcome aboard. You'll find some training info here: http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/

Good luck! When you're ready for some 1 on 1 help, visit the Help & Training forum and request a session with a trainer.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: OldNitro on February 17, 2017, 08:23:45 AM

A barrel roll defense, a break turn, and a split S are most likely the top 3 defensive moves.


Thanks Fugitive, for the info and explanations. I have some knowledge of aviation terms, so I "get it" quickly. I will work in a few repetitions on every sortie. How about the "Rope a dope" or the "High Yoyo"? Just a couple I have heard mentioned that sound rather interesting, lol.

Also, what is the best range to target for firing Rockets, (HVAR, and or 60lbers)? Anyone?
I am working on it, but getting inconsistent results.

Tracking says my new VKB stick will be here Monday, after a little mapping and familiarization I should be about ready enuf to go live.









 
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Puma44 on February 17, 2017, 08:59:39 AM
Can anyone name a few basic/common defensive and offensive maneuvers that I can research and practice before I come into the online AH world? Right now I fly a few offline sorties every morning and evening, practicing gunnery and landing.

Now that I can finally land without crashing and looking like a dork, (most times)!  :rofl

Ready to add a few new elements to my practice sessions. :joystick:

Before you get too far into it, learn the basics:  BFM, energy management, and how to apply them in more complex maneuvering.  Highly recommend Morfiend in the Training Corps.  He's very knowledgeable and is an excellent trainer.  A lot of players have favorite moves that work for them  and their systems but, have never learned the basics and then try to teach new players.  Trying to learn how to run before crawling can be very frustrating for someone new to the game.  When you start training with any particular player, ask them to explain and demonstrate use of the lift vector.  If they don't know what that is,  time to move on.  :salute
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: SIK1 on February 17, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
Before you get too far into it, learn the basics:  BFM, energy management, and how to apply them in more complex maneuvering.  Highly recommend Morfiend in the Training Corps.  He's very knowledgeable and is an excellent trainer.  A lot of players have favorite moves that work for them  and their systems but, have never learned the basics and then try to teach new players.  Trying to learn how to run before crawling can be very frustrating for someone new to the game.  When you start training with any particular player, ask them to explain and demonstrate use of the lift vector.  If they don't know what that is,  time to move on.  :salute

Good advise there. You have to have a good foundation to build upon.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Rich46yo on February 17, 2017, 01:35:32 PM
It would be nice to see the old crowd from Europe come back. Also I saw a guy flying a Mossie the other night who could only be one guy. I wont name him cause he must want to stay anonymous but Ive seen only one guy fly a Mossie like that.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 17, 2017, 02:18:50 PM
Nice post Puma!

Thanks for mentioning that Aces High has the AH Training Corps, Max!

~§~

TC
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: The Fugitive on February 17, 2017, 04:16:57 PM
Thanks Fugitive, for the info and explanations. I have some knowledge of aviation terms, so I "get it" quickly. I will work in a few repetitions on every sortie. How about the "Rope a dope" or the "High Yoyo"? Just a couple I have heard mentioned that sound rather interesting, lol.

Also, what is the best range to target for firing Rockets, (HVAR, and or 60lbers)? Anyone?
I am working on it, but getting inconsistent results.

Tracking says my new VKB stick will be here Monday, after a little mapping and familiarization I should be about ready enuf to go live.


The rope a dope and the High yo-yo are Offensive moves.

The rope a dope is when you have more energy/speed/climb rate than the guy on your tail. Picture a rope hanging off your tail, you pull up in a climb dragging your "rope". The dope  :) thinking he can keep up with/ get you before you both stall follows. The trick is to be able to judge your energy/speed as compared to his. If you have more, you roll over at the top and drop on his stalled and non responsive plane and kill him. If you dont have more, he climbs the rope and blows you out of the sky as you stall at the top.

Hi yo-yo,  your chasing a guy, he rolls 90 left, and pulls hard to reverse direction ( flat turn). Picture a plate standing on its edge with the flat survice facing you, you pull up, roll 90 degrees and follow the edge of the plate up over the top and back down the other side leveling out on the bandits tail. You have both reversed your direction, but he has burned a lot more speed/energy making his flat turn where you have saved a lot of speed/energy by not turning as sharp and spreading the turn out over a vertical element as well as the turn.

Like all these other guys are saying, learn the basics. Knowing how to "turn" a plane helps when it comes time to work these maneuvers. A Rope a Dope doesn't work well if you cant judge "E" (energy/speed) you and the other guy has.

A good thing you could try for practice is to fly low and slow inside the area of a field. Once you get your stick flying slow THROUGH the hangers and around the tower and radar antenna will help you to learn to control your planes flight. I had a squad leader that would fly low and slow trough the trees and have me follow him and try to keep the plane in the air. Its fun and not as easy as you would think, but it is something else to try when you get bored chasing drones for a bit   :D 
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Puma44 on February 17, 2017, 06:20:05 PM
Nice post Puma!

Thanks for mentioning that Aces High has the AH Training Corps, Max!

~§~

TC

Thanks TC!  :salute. Just trying to pay some experience forward.   :airplane:
           

                                                                                                     :airplane:
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: OldNitro on February 18, 2017, 07:48:50 AM

The rope a dope and the High yo-yo are Offensive moves.


Thanks Fuge for nice clear answers. I'll remember that Rope a Dope deal, don't wanna be the dope,  :D

Yes, I have been trying the low and slow thing just for laughs. Using an F4F Wildcat about 25ft off the ground, thru the hangers, floating with the flaps out and the stall buzzer going, BZZZZZZZZZZZZ! It does make a fun change of pace!
I have a little basic skill with stick and throttle, not totally inept, lol.

I appreciate the advice too, Max, Puma, TC, and all! That Zeno's Warbirds site is pretty cool, I will definitely be spending some eyeball time there. Thanks for that list of videos, good info, just what I was looking for! I don't jump blind into anything. When I feel prepared to my own satisfaction, then you will see me in AH world.

I'm almost there, still dealing with seating/control placement/ergonomics/comfort issues.
Waiting on that damn STICK! :x  Can't finalize anything until it gets here.  :bhead

Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: The Fugitive on February 18, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
Thanks Fuge for nice clear answers. I'll remember that Rope a Dope deal, don't wanna be the dope,  :D

Yes, I have been trying the low and slow thing just for laughs. Using an F4F Wildcat about 25ft off the ground, thru the hangers, floating with the flaps out and the stall buzzer going, BZZZZZZZZZZZZ! It does make a fun change of pace!
I have a little basic skill with stick and throttle, not totally inept, lol.

I appreciate the advice too, Max, Puma, TC, and all! That Zeno's Warbirds site is pretty cool, I will definitely be spending some eyeball time there. Thanks for that list of videos, good info, just what I was looking for! I don't jump blind into anything. When I feel prepared to my own satisfaction, then you will see me in AH world.

I'm almost there, still dealing with seating/control placement/ergonomics/comfort issues.
Waiting on that damn STICK! :x  Can't finalize anything until it gets here.  :bhead

LOL!!! Don't you worry, you'll be falling for the "rope a dope" far more than you would think   :devil

The F4F is a slow plane and handles the "slow" rather well. Try it in a P51, P47, FW190. Those a true "fighter" planes and are designed for speed, they really dont like going slow. If you can get good at handling them slow you'll be able to handle most planes slow. It teaches you how to be smooth with your stick and not jerk it around. The smoother you fly the better you save E and the longer you can keep an advantage over a bad guy.

Keep at it, hope to see you soon!
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: McShark on February 20, 2017, 09:50:46 AM
I know some consider it old and outdated, but still works for me:

Read this:

https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi1nbf2gp_SAhVLvRoKHbYoDbAQFggmMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virtualpilots.fi%2Ffeature%2Flento_ohjeet%2Finpursuit%2Finpursuit.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFRbqF46KUWJK8ZO6Vl0Fie51qjGQ (https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi1nbf2gp_SAhVLvRoKHbYoDbAQFggmMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virtualpilots.fi%2Ffeature%2Flento_ohjeet%2Finpursuit%2Finpursuit.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFRbqF46KUWJK8ZO6Vl0Fie51qjGQ)

Still some kind of bible to many oldtimers.

Good luck in AH skies!

Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: TequilaChaser on February 20, 2017, 10:59:03 AM
To each their own, but after 24+ years of playing AW, WB,  Jane's, Target Rabual, FA, IL2, AH, I never found anything useful from that book

I would rather read Robert Shaw's Air combat and maneuvering book or No Guts, No Glory or Boyd's article

YMMV

TC
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Puma44 on February 20, 2017, 11:14:14 AM
To each their own, but after 24+ years of playing AW, WB,  Jane's, Target Rabual, FA, IL2, AH, I never found anything useful from that book

I would rather read Robert Shaw's Air combat and maneuvering book or No Guts, No Glory or Boyd's article

YMMV

TC

In the real world of fighters, Shaw's book is widely acknowledged as a go to reference.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Drano on February 20, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
Other than the sections regarding combat with missiles, pretty much everything in Shaw's transfers to AH3. Not an easy read but as a reference book, it's in there.


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Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Puma44 on February 20, 2017, 11:52:31 AM
True.  The missle employment require extended launch ranges but, some of the BFM maneuvers are still applicable.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: Brooke on February 20, 2017, 08:42:13 PM
Here's something that might help, OldNitro.

It was written during Air Warrior days, but the air-combat part is about that same as here.  Wherever you see "Air Warrior", if you think "Aces High", you will be mostly OK:

http://electraforge.com/brooke/flightsims/air_warrior/awtaman.txt
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: OldNitro on February 21, 2017, 08:45:45 AM
Thanks Brooke, and all.
I will definitely be seeking out these information resources.
Title: Re: A positive sign
Post by: 10thmd on February 21, 2017, 04:35:33 PM
Don't forget the Training section of the Aces High Website.

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/

It has some good videos that demonstrate the topics it covers.