It's not difficult at all to land 10+ kills in the MA in a jet or a 152.
It absolutely is. Sure, not as difficult in many other planes... but still mostly outside the capabilities of the average player. Especially with the 152.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Devil 505 on March 09, 2017, 12:51:09 PM
I once shot down 100
in a week. :devil
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: lunatic1 on March 09, 2017, 01:11:35 PM
i was on the same side and same field as DR7 when he landed 149 kills oh wait that was in a tank sorry
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: lunatic1 on March 09, 2017, 01:12:19 PM
Rearms
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Lusche on March 09, 2017, 01:21:25 PM
It absolutely is. Sure, not as difficult in many other planes... but still mostly outside the capabilities of the average player. Especially with the 152.
Nah with the speed, diving, and climbing abilities of the 152 it's easy. Forgot about the gun package.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Vulcan on March 09, 2017, 01:49:38 PM
Rud3boi gets plenty of 10-20 kill runs in a hawg.
In my younger days 10-20 kill runs in a tiffie were easy, I think my top run was in the mid-30's.
It just takes patience and good gunnery.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Zoney on March 09, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
I've gotten 27 in a Ta152, 24 in a ME262, and 22 in a 109K. The 109K was the most time consuming because of the limited ammo.
Patience is the #1 thing you must bring to those runs. Greed kills, hurrying kills, stupidity kills, wife ack kills, Glenlivet kills.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Copprhed on March 09, 2017, 02:09:58 PM
Tour 205, all pilots with a minimum of 10 sorties in fighter mode:
Median K/D 0.54 Median K/S 0.34 Median K/H 2.34 Median Hit% 3.26
Edit: Median time spent in fighter mode: 8.5 hours with a staggering total of 19 kills...
And 'median' means 50% of the pilots had been worse than that. :old:
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: whiteman on March 09, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Back in the days of Titanic Tuesday and hugely populated weekends you would see outlandish kill totals landed. I landed 14 plus in a 47N with 1 rearm. I don't have the patience to re arm 99% of the time.
Back in the days of Titanic Tuesday and hugely populated weekends you would see outlandish kill totals landed.
But only by a small minority of players, who were able to fully exploit the 'fish in a barrel' situations. I did myself some stunts like 50 in a Tempest (rearm), 11 in a Hurricane 1 with and 6 or 7 without rearm. I wouldn't be able to do anything like that in today's arena, not only because I've gotten older and slower, but also because I could not find enough appropriate targets anymore.
I remember running some analysis about landed kills back in the day. Turned out most kills weren't even landed with an arena 'landed X kills in' message (either because the pilot had just one, or died). And the broadcasted landing messages had mostly been 2 and 3 kills type - but the outlandish ones are those getting all attention and thus getting remembered so well.
The average Joe still had a success rate quite similar to the one I posted earlier,
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: icepac on March 09, 2017, 06:37:24 PM
I got 11 in an I16 with a few rearms.
One was at 30,000 feet.
Still haven't gotten a b29 at high altitude with one yet but lucked into a HO'ing P38 at 21k in a stuka in the first time I flew it.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: guncrasher on March 09, 2017, 07:07:33 PM
once I landed a kill when I rocket vulched from 12k.
semp
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Post by: NatCigg on March 09, 2017, 07:11:11 PM
with one re-arm i got 12 in a 38L. the trip home was tough. a spiral climb from a chasing spitfire. limped home low fuel and smoking engine.
im pretty sure there is film of it on a hard drive somewhere.
:joystick:
:airplane:
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: PR3D4TOR on March 09, 2017, 07:20:29 PM
The purpose of this thread is not to be braggadocious (love that word!) or anything of the sort (I'm not Grizz... not by a long shot.)
The purpose of this thread is to inform people like LTCClark, who started a thread with cheating allegations because someone landed 17 kills in a 262, that yes, there are people out there who can land double digit numbers of kills in just about any ride. No cheating required.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 09, 2017, 08:44:18 PM
The purpose of this thread is not to be braggadocious (love that word!) or anything of the sort (I'm not Grizz... not by a long shot.)
The purpose of this thread is to inform people like LTCClark, who started a thread with cheating allegations because someone landed 17 kills in a 262, that yes, there are people out there who can land double digit numbers of kills in just about any ride. No cheating required.
Hmm.......
Should someone make a post saying something like???
WORD! heh
Edit: if my memory serves me right, Dead+/DMF/Leviathan etc... had a discussion similar to this thread, something like 13 or 14 years ago... regarding how easy it is to land multiple kills or go past 100 kills before being killed once...
Heh, some things never change
TC
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Lazerr on March 09, 2017, 09:07:28 PM
Those days are long gone for me.. id rather go down on fire.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: caldera on March 09, 2017, 09:29:45 PM
I have one with me landing 49 kills one time in a Chog. That is in my old computer from AH2....I will have to dig in the hard drive to retrieve the screen shot.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Oldman731 on March 10, 2017, 06:58:44 AM
I landed a kill once.
I do hope you're all suitably impressed.
- oldman
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Lusche on March 10, 2017, 07:45:07 AM
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: bozon on March 10, 2017, 10:13:57 AM
What is this "landing" thing I keep hearing about? :huh :headscratch:
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Krupinski on March 10, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
I remember this one massive fight where our port was right next to an enemy base. Everytime the CV went down it would just respawn right there and the fight would go on and on and on.
Flying the F4U-4... I had at least 5 sorties in a row of 10+ kills (18 in one of them), all in less than an hour.
I could have rearmed each sortie, but you know how it goes when a CV is actively being bombarded... imagine if I did though.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: hgtonyvi on March 10, 2017, 10:42:38 AM
I remember this one massive fight where our port was right next to an enemy base. Everytime the CV went down it would just respawn right there and the fight would go on and on and on.
Flying the F4U-4... I had at least 5 sorties in a row of 10+ kills (18 in one of them), all in less than an hour.
I could have rearmed each sortie, but you know how it goes when a CV is actively being bombarded... imagine if I did though.
You still here?? I thought you play some other flight sim....I'm just messing with ya bro :devil
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Karnak on March 10, 2017, 10:58:26 AM
Most landed I ever pulled was 12 in an A6M5b, but I don't use rearms. That is such an outlier from my next highest that I can only say I was 1) lucky and 2) flying far above my normal skill level, particularly in terms of shooting accuracy. Next highest for me is only 8, which I did once each in the Mosquito Mk VI, P-38L, Typhoon Mk Ib and N1K2-J.
17 is well believable to me to someone using an Me262 who, unlike me, can actually shoot things with it.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Krupinski on March 10, 2017, 11:23:08 AM
Ah yes don't forget this one
Grizz Me-163
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: SlipKnt on March 10, 2017, 11:29:33 AM
I landed 2 the other day...
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Becinhu on March 10, 2017, 11:30:16 AM
I landed once....purely on accident.
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Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 11:41:07 AM
Well this turned into a pissing contest lol.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Zoney on March 10, 2017, 11:45:25 AM
It's fun.
It's interesting.
It's a challenge.
With each successive kill, the excitement level goes up another notch. With me, I'm mostly hunting buffs at alt. If I am to continue the sortie and be able to rearm to push that kill number higher, I've got to shoot down the buffs without taking damage so I can rearm and up again. To continue I must make my attacks as perfect as I can, and give my opponent as little of an opportunity as possible to get hits on me.
For the past year or so, I have been actively working on perfecting the 3fer on bombers. 3 kills in one pass. It's difficult. 2fers are hard enough. I'm doing this because a 3fer only exposes me once to enemy fire.
We all find our fun in many different ways.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 10, 2017, 12:19:56 PM
Let's just turn this into who's the best stick in the game currently.....
And Go...
:devil :devil :devil
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Zoney on March 10, 2017, 12:22:19 PM
Why don't you start by telling us for the 800th time how you won KOTH.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 10, 2017, 12:41:51 PM
Why don't you start by telling us for the 800th time how you won KOTH.
Quote once where the context of the post made me say I was the best in the game you hypocrit.....I'm not the one posting my top kill runs....I have but that was for a self achievement thread which is one of the two threads I remember posting about winning a KOTH....the other was on a fighter score discussion because I don't believe it accurately correlates skill to rank....which it doesn't.
Maybe if you participated in a KOTH you would understand I don't have an ego.
Nah he's got it locked down. I've fought everyone of the top guys so far. No competition for it. It's his trophy.
I don't see him dropping massive kill numbers in FSO or scenarios where you need a more unique set of skills.....Like I said on FW there is more diverse things which should be taken into account in naming a top stick...is he a top stick...yes but to say there is no.competition is just you bein very naive
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 03:58:27 PM
I don't see him dropping massive kill numbers in FSO or scenarios where you need a more unique set of skills.....Like I said on FW there is more diverse things which should be taken into account in naming a top stick...is he a top stick...yes but to say there is no.competition is just you bein very naive
Oh you was taking into consideration flying in events lol. Never mind. FSO is fun and all but because you can BnZ and manage your E well in there doesn't mean you are great. A top stick in my eyes is the best at 1v1 situations. Big events are irrelevant to majority.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JOACH1M on March 10, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
I don't see him dropping massive kill numbers in FSO or scenarios where you need a more unique set of skills.....Like I said on FW there is more diverse things which should be taken into account in naming a top stick...is he a top stick...yes but to say there is no.competition is just you bein very naive
i don't attend them since they don't fit with my college lifestyle. I usually have beverages to be drank, and women that need to be honed out.
But when I do fly in a scenario or FSO I hold my own :) one of the top 51B and D pilots of BoG.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JOACH1M on March 10, 2017, 04:00:42 PM
I fly best when I'm free, go me.
Actually only when Tom Petty is playing I do my best work ;)
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 04:01:14 PM
Not being naive at all either. Not even a person close to his skill set. The closest I've fought to him would be Bruv and Krup. Even then he is miles ahead IMO.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: guncrasher on March 10, 2017, 04:01:51 PM
Not being naive at all either. Not even a person close to his skill set. The closest I've fought to him would be Bruv and Krup. Even then he is miles ahead IMO.
From what I've seen if a person is miles ahead, IMO most of the time they should manhandle the guy they're miles ahead of. At the level of guys like Jo and Bruv and Krup, from what I've seen it's generally who's best on the day. Or am I wrong and Jo always walks on them?
I know when I fight the guys that are miles ahead of me, it's a feeling of the inevitable. I measure how close we are by how many turns it takes them to get me. I've always felt if that's not how the fight goes and I get a chance or two, the skill difference isn't that far apart. YMMV.
Wiley.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Yes Wiley he would walk them. I got love for every pilot in the game. Junky asked and I delivered the truth. I'm even pretty close with bruv! Just gotta be honest :)
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 10, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
i don't attend them since they don't fit with my college lifestyle. I usually have beverages to be drank, and women that need to be honed out.
But when I do fly in a scenario or FSO I hold my own :) one of the top 51B and D pilots of BoG.
Don't think I'm taking anything away from your skill bro, My top 5 in Aces High aren't ranked any certain way they are just there for different achievements and you are definitely within that region for sure. There's things you have done that a lot haven't and there's things others have done which you haven't which is the point I'm trying to make to Spek. Bruv legit murdered 2 frames of the Allies in the last 12 hour scenario...like he killed 2 squadrons almost by himself. TonyJoey still holds the kill to death record I believe. Grizz made a following of 30MM users in the game ect ect ect...granted Grizz isnt active right now and what not but I think you'll understand my point.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 10, 2017, 04:16:05 PM
Oh and if anyone leaves Kazaa out of a talk about best stick in a straight up 1v1 their crazy...watched him clean shop against a lot of the names mentioned one time in KOTH was insane the level at which he was flying at.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JOACH1M on March 10, 2017, 04:16:56 PM
Oh I understand the point you are making. I wasn't taking offense to what you said either. It's just scenarios currently don't work with my real life schedule.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 04:17:22 PM
It will always come down to a 1 on 1 no matter the situation. That's why I rank people based on that. People flew the 30mm rides before Mr Grizz. TJ was a animal in the MA and KOTH. I just don't look at a KD to mean anything to me. It comes down to 1v1 in my mind and I know who takes the cake there. :). :salute
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 04:18:12 PM
Oh and if anyone leaves Kazaa out of a talk about best stick in a straight up 1v1 their crazy...watched him clean shop against a lot of the names mentioned one time in KOTH was insane the level at which he was flying at.
You said active. Kazaa best to ever play this game.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 10, 2017, 04:26:30 PM
Not being naive at all either. Not even a person close to his skill set. The closest I've fought to him would be Bruv and Krup. Even then he is miles ahead IMO.
I don't play the game enough anymore to even be considered lol... and I haven't fought Joach1m in AH in probably 2 years.
I do, however, own him in IL2 BoS. :bolt:
ps <3 you Joach1m when you gonna come fly IL2 again. :D
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 10, 2017, 06:28:07 PM
Soon as I get better connection I'll get it.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Krupinski on March 10, 2017, 06:32:33 PM
Stop making excuses it's not that difficult to get into. :neener:
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: guncrasher on March 10, 2017, 06:48:30 PM
well I was in the first 5 koth's ever held. even got a kill once.
semp
So you was there when I was, when YES (edit: it was actually STICK that created KOTH) of the 327th created the event in Air Warrior, and it went down to WrgWy, SM (Snowman), myself and Filth... in the first 2 or 3 koths... if my memory serves me right...could be 1 or 2 off....but I bet a grand I have flown more KOTH events than anyone else, since it's inception.......heck, I think it was FiLtH that won the complete CH Hotas setup, iirc...
as for who is the best in the game....stupid question..anyone can be beaten on any given day..think batfink along with myself posted that years ago.....
Spek! fun fights in the matchplay the other night, first time I even tried it, was a blast <S>
TC
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 11, 2017, 07:01:04 AM
<S> TC
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Post by: Max on March 11, 2017, 07:13:33 AM
ya, I did that a couple times too. There was a bug that you could catch on ndisles map. Drop a buff killing the tail gunners and it just ran off pages of kills!
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: oakranger on March 12, 2017, 12:19:11 PM
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Post by: pembquist on March 12, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
The heartbreak of lastworditis.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: kappa on March 12, 2017, 03:30:22 PM
haha this video.. even the music is good..
Grizz is/was the best. Some players have great SA, some players have great shots, some players have patience, some players can fly well in all situations, but few have all. Grizz had all..
The OP's video from just the POV of flying a 262 in substantial combat for 4hrs without getting an oil leak is a breathtaking achievement. That reason alone would eliminate 99% of players that might attempt this.. haha I know I could not possibly do this and from a factor of seat time I prolly rank pretty high in 262 kills..
High number kills in these planes are certainly possible but not easy.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: waystin2 on March 12, 2017, 03:53:19 PM
Grizz and Kappa were the last of the Varsity level Muppets.
:salute
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: oakranger on March 12, 2017, 04:12:37 PM
So you was there when I was, when YES (edit: it was actually STICK that created KOTH) of the 327th created the event in Air Warrior, and it went down to WrgWy, SM (Snowman), myself and Filth... in the first 2 or 3 koths... if my memory serves me right...could be 1 or 2 off....but I bet a grand I have flown more KOTH events than anyone else, since it's inception.......heck, I think it was FiLtH that won the complete CH Hotas setup, iirc...
as for who is the best in the game....stupid question..anyone can be beaten on any given day..think batfink along with myself posted that years ago.....
Spek! fun fights in the matchplay the other night, first time I even tried it, was a blast <S>
TC
the first few koth's were a squad only event. I believe after the 6th then they opened to everybody.
semp
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Tumor on March 12, 2017, 05:43:51 PM
It's been so long ago that I didn't even know you were in the 327th with STICK, KOOL, eagle, YES, heck I think GOOSS was a member as well...
I do remember discussing the creation of it and thought it would be a great event...
Old memories like that always look better through Rose colored glasses, heh
Cheers
TC
it was a great squad, only reason i found out about ah2 was because they emailed me. glad the koth tradition continues. and yes gooss was in the 327th back then.
semp
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Someguy63 on March 13, 2017, 01:54:21 AM
See Rule #6
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Wolfala on March 13, 2017, 04:31:36 AM
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Slade on March 13, 2017, 06:17:12 AM
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Rearms
Yep
The rearm pad can be used as a "sortie" misconception device. Maybe it should be renamed the: "Fake Sortie News Enabling Platform" - when used in this manner?
That sorties can be extended by first LANDING then using this magic device to: ignore you just LANDED, yet you are still flying but now have full fuel and ammo is curious.
Think about it. Do you really think pilots fly more aggressively or carefully having the ability to extend a sortie forever (and land a crazy number of kills per "sortie")? Does having n players flying "carefully" help facilitate more and better ACM?
BTW, I am a fan of the WWII usage of the rearm pad. I am glad it is in the game in this context...but not the "sortie" abuse context.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: gflyer on March 13, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
Sortie- end when plane lands (Each T&G?)? Engine(s) shuts off? Pilot gets out? Or turned over for maintenance? I lean towards the sortie ends when ops turns acft over for maintenance. Rearm/refuel a maintenance action - nah.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Shuffler on March 13, 2017, 12:10:09 PM
Sortie- end when plane lands (Each T&G?)? Engine(s) shuts off? Pilot gets out? Or turned over for maintenance? I lean towards the sortie ends when ops turns acft over for maintenance. Rearm/refuel a maintenance action - nah.
I agree. Hotpadding a non issue.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Slade on March 13, 2017, 04:22:47 PM
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I agree. Hotpadding a non issue.
Of course not every score obsessed pilot abuses the sortie every time. Plus I am a fan of the rearm pad. It should be kept in the game.
The plane does land and the engine is shutoff though. Are you going to tell me in real-life WWII, after a multi-hour flight pilots tended to not get out? Stretch their legs, relieve themselves... "Hotpadding" WWII style was not like NASCAR. It took a bit more time. :old:
My guess is that those that need to skew a sortie are in favor of rearm pad abuse, while those that would rather have more engaging and less tentative opponents the latter.
The real crux, what I am challenging you guys to reconsider, is based around quality of fights per sortie on average.
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Post by: Zoney on March 13, 2017, 04:42:34 PM
I'm not sure where you guys got the "abuse" label for hotpadding. It is coded in the game and expected to be used therefore, if I am not mistaken.
No one makes anyone use it. If you don't like it then don't use it.
It adds to the fun for me so I use it.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Goat1 on March 13, 2017, 05:48:57 PM
Grizz Me-163
[/quote]
Nice Film
Goat
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Gman on March 13, 2017, 07:07:43 PM
Grizz was/is everything Kappa described IMO, but was also a very good teacher. He posted a thread a while before he "left", about how to make snap shops with the Mk108 in the K4, it's probably one of the best examples of explaining how to shoot anything, let alone the 30mm, in the game. Great example of adult learning/teaching techniques, I'll have to find the thread and link it later.
17 kills is a lot, but nothing impossible. I will say that since 2010 or so when I started flying a bit again, that compared to early days, say 99 to 2004ish, getting high kill streaks is much, much more difficult now. I have films/screens of a number of 20+ streaks I had (with rearms obviously) in everything from the Spit5 to the F4U4. In the last 7 years I don't think I've cracked double digits, not once. Maybe it's a better overall skill level, even if statistically it doesn't really show that as per Snailman graphs and so on - or maybe I'm just getting worse.
I don't think the Grizz 262 video will ever be topped, and will stand as the longest streak with proof forever.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: LocoMoto on March 13, 2017, 07:20:21 PM
The rearm pad can be used as a "sortie" misconception device. Maybe it should be renamed the: "Fake Sortie News Enabling Platform" - when used in this manner?
That sorties can be extended by first LANDING then using this magic device to: ignore you just LANDED, yet you are still flying but now have full fuel and ammo is curious.
Think about it. Do you really think pilots fly more aggressively or carefully having the ability to extend a sortie forever (and land a crazy number of kills per "sortie")? Does having n players flying "carefully" help facilitate more and better ACM?
BTW, I am a fan of the WWII usage of the rearm pad. I am glad it is in the game in this context...but not the "sortie" abuse context.
Excellent post and worthy of an entire thread to itself!
Rarely will I ever land an ace. Normally this is due to a lack of patience and over estimating my abilities. Yet just recently decided that I would not land until I could land an ace. Over the next 3 sorties I landed 17 kills and aced 3 times. Re-arned half a dozen times in between.
Noticed I was a lot more conservative when engaging into a fight. Always made sure I had equal footing or the advantage. I wasnt timid I just flew smart and waited for my opponents to make a mistake. Had some help along the way as well from time to time.
I just dont land those kind of sorties when im not focused on staying out of someones crosshairs.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 13, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
Grizz was/is everything Kappa described IMO, but was also a very good teacher. He posted a thread a while before he "left", about how to make snap shops with the Mk108 in the K4, it's probably one of the best examples of explaining how to shoot anything, let alone the 30mm, in the game. Great example of adult learning/teaching techniques, I'll have to find the thread and link it later.
17 kills is a lot, but nothing impossible. I will say that since 2010 or so when I started flying a bit again, that compared to early days, say 99 to 2004ish, getting high kill streaks is much, much more difficult now. I have films/screens of a number of 20+ streaks I had (with rearms obviously) in everything from the Spit5 to the F4U4. In the last 7 years I don't think I've cracked double digits, not once. Maybe it's a better overall skill level, even if statistically it doesn't really show that as per Snailman graphs and so on - or maybe I'm just getting worse.
I don't think the Grizz 262 video will ever be topped, and will stand as the longest streak with proof forever.
"Grizz made a following of 30MM users in the game ect ect ect...granted Grizz isnt active right now and what not but I think you'll understand my point." That thread is what I was referring to when I said this....To this day there is not a better post on here which teaches something that well....really well done wish he would have done more.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: EagleDNY on March 13, 2017, 08:04:55 PM
That man is a master of the spud gun.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 13, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
Someone find a link to that post?
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 13, 2017, 08:49:53 PM
Spek, films are removed so it doesnt come with the best examples but still a great write up.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JunkyII on March 13, 2017, 08:51:13 PM
Going through Grizz's threads...."What's the best plane?"....His response "Whatever TonyJoey is flying" :rofl
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 13, 2017, 09:22:55 PM
I remember those threads! Thanks junky.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: FX1 on March 14, 2017, 10:24:05 AM
54 in a tempest no vulches 3 rearms. Personal best in one run was 16 in a spit 16 no vulches but a couple lawn darts kills.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Rich46yo on March 14, 2017, 01:57:22 PM
Some of the most impressive flying Ive seen is when the enemy is severely over matched and ends up losing. You'll never see it in the stats but Ive been impressed as hell when an enemy is in a Ki, a jug, a 38 and fly's effectively for long minutes against multiple enemies. Even if he does end up getting killed eventually.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: JOACH1M on March 14, 2017, 06:25:05 PM
After some events that took place this early afternoon Ace aka "Spek" now has to refer to me as "daddy" for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: Oldman731 on March 14, 2017, 07:07:25 PM
Some of the most impressive flying Ive seen is when the enemy is severely over matched and ends up losing. You'll never see it in the stats but Ive been impressed as hell when an enemy is in a Ki, a jug, a 38 and fly's effectively for long minutes against multiple enemies. Even if he does end up getting killed eventually.
Agreed. In fact, that's probably the most fun way to play this game.
- oldman
Title: Re: To LTCClark and others who are dumbfounded by someone landing 17 kills...
Post by: ACE on March 15, 2017, 07:20:09 AM