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Title: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on April 25, 2017, 08:43:26 PM
Please make the room chat also visible to people within close range to match the voice. That way country channel isn't cluttered. The current method is confusing.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Lazerr on April 26, 2017, 09:48:45 AM
Currently the purple text only shows to folks that spawned from the same base as you.  Would be great to see that expand to anyone within voice "range".
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: popeye on April 26, 2017, 10:21:13 AM
+1
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Mister Fork on April 26, 2017, 02:32:23 PM
Currently the purple text only shows to folks that spawned from the same base as you.  Would be great to see that expand to anyone within voice "range".
+1
For over 17 years now I thought that the range text was just that - those in range...  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on April 26, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Yeah I only learned this recently. So many times I've been "yelling " WF!!! on what I thought was range only to have the m3 driver ignore me... Or so so i thought lol
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: cav58d on April 26, 2017, 11:46:44 PM
This is a no brainer, please change.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: bozon on April 27, 2017, 01:41:16 AM
+1
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: waystin2 on April 27, 2017, 10:37:41 AM
only to have the m3 driver ignore me...
This says alot. :aok
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: hitech on April 27, 2017, 12:01:43 PM
I really dislike the idea of adding a different concept such as range to the room channel. It simply is confusing.

But I would be fine with adding a Range text channel.

HiTech
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: bustr on April 27, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
Isn't the purple text range??????
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: ImADot on April 27, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
Isn't the purple text range??????

It's "room"... Only players who spawned from the same base can see it - no matter where on the map they are. It's even labeled in the radio channel by the word "room".
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Devil 505 on April 27, 2017, 12:43:42 PM
The confusion is because the both range voice and room text use purple as an indicator. simple solution would be to have another color for one of them.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on April 27, 2017, 06:28:09 PM
If creating a new channel that is range only, then would people have to tune to it to hear it or would they receive it regardless? Maybe a different shade of green for it?
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on April 27, 2017, 08:07:17 PM
If creating a new channel that is range only, then would people have to tune to it to hear it or would they receive it regardless? Maybe a different shade of green for it?

I would think that you would not have to tune a channel to range to see it; just like you don't have to tune a channel to room, to see it.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: oboe on April 28, 2017, 07:02:19 AM
The confusion is because the both range voice and room text use purple as an indicator. simple solution would be to have another color for one of them.

I had this wrong the entire time I've played AH (off and on since circa 2001).  I thought "Room" and "Range" were interchangeable and referred to the same thing.  I supposed having them the same color reinforced that misconception.

So "Room" is more like the Tower Frequency of the field lifted off from?
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on April 28, 2017, 08:09:20 AM
I had this wrong the entire time I've played AH (off and on since circa 2001).  I thought "Room" and "Range" were interchangeable and referred to the same thing.  I supposed having them the same color reinforced that misconception.

So "Room" is more like the Tower Frequency of the field lifted off from?

Room text is visible to only those in that tower or those that lifted from that field on their current sortie.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: bozon on April 28, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
Room text is visible to only those in that tower or those that lifted from that field on their current sortie.
Often the players in the area came from the same base as you, and this is the reason that "range" and "room" are confused.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: hitech on April 28, 2017, 04:06:03 PM
Btw Briefing/oclub/debrief/hangar/inflight are all separate rooms.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: pembquist on April 28, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
I would think that you would not have to tune a channel to range to see it; just like you don't have to tune a channel to room, to see it.
I thought you had to have one of your channels set to room in order to see it, just like help or 200 or whatever.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on April 28, 2017, 04:28:08 PM
I thought you had to have one of your channels set to room in order to see it, just like help or 200 or whatever.

IIRC, you see the help text and room text regardless of being tuned to it. I think country is the same.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: pembquist on April 28, 2017, 10:04:18 PM
IIRC, you see the help text and room text regardless of being tuned to it. I think country is the same.

That is good to know, thanks.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on April 29, 2017, 08:56:43 AM
Btw Briefing/oclub/debrief/hangar/inflight are all separate rooms.

That seems confusing. I mean if you're in the tower coming up with a mission and people are busy picking their plane and loadouts, it seems like they should be able to communicate
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: ImADot on April 29, 2017, 09:19:15 AM
That seems confusing. I mean if you're in the tower coming up with a mission and people are busy picking their plane and loadouts, it seems like they should be able to communicate

Pre-launch for FSO often found me going to the hangar or the O'Club so I didn't have to listen to all the chatter in the tower. I think it's a good thing that they are separate rooms.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: hitech on April 29, 2017, 01:33:01 PM
That seems confusing. I mean if you're in the tower coming up with a mission and people are busy picking their plane and loadouts, it seems like they should be able to communicate

Hmm I wonder why we have many other channels?

A room channel is just that, to speak with people in the same room as you.

HiTech
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on April 29, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
That seems confusing. I mean if you're in the tower coming up with a mission and people are busy picking their plane and loadouts, it seems like they should be able to communicate

There's always channels 100-299. If you're worried the spies  :rolleyes: , then use 100-199.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on April 30, 2017, 08:55:49 AM
There's always channels 100-299. If you're worried the spies  :rolleyes: , then use 100-199.

 I'm not worried about spies more than I'm worried about not being able to talk to someone because I'm in the tower and they are in the hangar.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on April 30, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
I feel like this is being made more difficult than what it is. Establish a mission channel on country, then use that mission channel to communicate.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on April 30, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
No the while idea is to not require a mission channel but simply have a range text channel that mirrors the range voice channel.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on April 30, 2017, 09:13:00 PM
No the while idea is to not require a mission channel but simply have a range text channel that mirrors the range voice channel.

That wouldn't fix this....

I'm not worried about spies more than I'm worried about not being able to talk to someone because I'm in the tower and they are in the hangar.

Why not just use country text?
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on May 01, 2017, 05:37:46 AM
So as to not spam country channel. When you see the purple text you know it's applicable to the local situation. How many times have people written something like "wirbl in town" or "hi 51 over the field" on country but then you arent sure which town or base.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: BowHTR on May 01, 2017, 07:09:27 AM
Scenario 1
So as to not spam country channel. When you see the purple text you know it's applicable to the local situation. How many times have people written something like "wirbl in town" or "hi 51 over the field" on country but then you arent sure which town or base.

Scenario 2
I'm not worried about spies more than I'm worried about not being able to talk to someone because I'm in the tower and they are in the hangar.
That seems confusing. I mean if you're in the tower coming up with a mission and people are busy picking their plane and loadouts, it seems like they should be able to communicate

You're using 2 completely different scenarios. For scenario 1, yes I can see having a range text. In scenario 2, you need to establish a mission channel.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: hitech on May 01, 2017, 08:43:56 AM
Atlau: Just to be clear, It sounds like you are saying you do not wish me to create a new range channel?

I will not change the functionality of the room channel.

HiTech

Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Mister Fork on May 01, 2017, 08:47:15 AM
Hitech - a range text channel would be extremely helpful. The current tower based channel is also good but once in motion, if you're mic-less, the only way to talk to close-by country mates is via the country channel. It's a PITA.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: atlau on May 01, 2017, 05:20:36 PM
Sorry if I was unclear. But yes I'd definitely advocate for a text range channel that matched the color of the voice channel.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: bozon on May 02, 2017, 02:33:17 PM
A text range channel that is the text equivalent to the vox range channel just makes sense.
The room channel is fine and has some advantages over "range" - for example, it allows you to talk to people that are over the target while you are taking off from home-base and still out of the range for "range" talk. However, generally I feel that "range text" will be more useful for me to tune in the radio box than "room".

We can have both as HT says. The important bit is that the receiving side does not need to have the channel tunned in his radio box in order to see the text. If he dislike the channel, I suppose it will be possible to hide "range text" via the text window options, in the same way that I currently hide the "help" channel messages.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Rodent57 on May 02, 2017, 03:43:13 PM
Pre-launch for FSO often found me going to the hangar or the O'Club so I didn't have to listen to all the chatter in the tower. I think it's a good thing that they are separate rooms.

AMEN!!!
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: cav58d on June 22, 2017, 12:32:30 AM
Whatever happened to this idea?  Was range text added or no?
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: haggerty on June 26, 2017, 07:21:41 AM
Whatever happened to this idea?  Was range text added or no?

In two weeks I think.  It's a great idea though, I don't know how many years I went before I realized the people around me couldn't see my purple text because they were from a different base, I never did like using the mic.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Owlblink on June 26, 2017, 05:15:46 PM
I really dislike the idea of adding a different concept such as range to the room channel. It simply is confusing.

But I would be fine with adding a Range text channel.

HiTech

I would LOVE a ranged text channel. Sounds like most would as well.
I've always understood room channel as exactly what it is now but I can see a real use for a range channel that functions much like how the range vox does.
Title: Re: Make "room" chat also visible to people in "range"
Post by: Mongoose on June 27, 2017, 08:25:51 PM
 I would also like to add a wish that we could tune into the range channel while in the tower.  I would like to choose to be able to hear what is going on in the outside world while I am in the tower.  Often there is a big furball going on outside while we are defending a base.  When I get shot down, I can't hear what is going on until I launch again.  It would be helpful to be able to hear the action while I am changing ordinance, or checking the map before takeoff, etc.