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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: icepac on May 01, 2017, 09:48:24 PM
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Some might come back once it's gone.
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It is annoying that you can't see the town dot when it's always covered by all the GV icons.
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I like being able to see where friendlies are relative to an objective.
That said, I'm still a fan of not having radars that can perform better than the Radars of the day could ---
and, Yes, I'd be glad to teach that class!
(But I understand the 'gaming aspect' of the decision)
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nevermind
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an option to turn on-off icons on the map would be nice... like turn on-off viechle icons
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an option to turn on-off icons on the map would be nice... like turn on-off viechle icons
I'm pretty sure the purpose of the OP's wish is to prevent enemies from running to Wirbs while being chased.
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Rage quit icepac????
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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At least make the vehicle icons smaller if that's possible.
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Rage quit icepac????
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I think he rage un-subscribed.... Was on last night to catch the rant prior to logging off. :noid Amazing to watch an enemy GV bee-line to a friendly GV well away from action and supposedly "hidden".
I know the feeling, sorta strange to have someone come out to meet you in the weeds and seemingly bee-line straight to you off the beaten path... :noid
A. Filmviewer break
B. 2nd Account (Which at a glance provides all GV locations via radar - thus the wish to remove such data)
C. Blind Luck/Educated Guess
Hope to see you back soon icepac! :salute
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Film viewer
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I "think" I was party to an enemy pilot using a second account to keep track of enemy vehicles. I was trying to leave the combat area in a wirble from a botched capture attempt. So I started heading out for the 6000yd distance to get a safe landing. The first and second time the same player found my wirble in the trees and I shot him down, I figured I was making it too easy to predict my path. It was the third and fourth times he found my wirble by flying directly to it, and I was far enough from the field his plane on zoom couldn't see me in the trees. And I began changing my course and purposely driving into thick trees. And no, my wirble's gun was intact so he had no smoke plum to follow.
Yes if Hitech had not implemented friendly GV icons, that dork would not have been able to fly a direct line to my wirble hiding in trees 5000yds or more from his airfield. It was most obvious when he knew which direction I had turned 90 degrees driving through thick trees on his last sortie and flew directly to that location.
I didn't get as mad as icepac, but, it was obvious GV icons were not a good idea.
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I think the advantages of knowing where the GVs on your team are, to coordinate and communicate effectively in battle, outway the drawbacks of the few that want to hide and be sneaky.
But I understand the frustration....How about a compromise...
1) Friendly GV Icons are only visible to teammates within 6K like plane icons. That would help in a battle, but spies would have to be within "range" to see you. Not parked in a hangar 15 sectors away.
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Maybe do away with the GV icons but make another DARBAR type flag (viewable to friends) showing that there are friendly GVs in the area - just not where. Maybe have the vehicle spawn arrow change colors for the friend side?
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One factor that dictates the GV icon is how well the speedtree trees can hide your own vehicles. GV icons are kind of a Catch-22, still it's more info from DAR than we used to have.
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Although it is irritating to be rooted out by a second account. You have to feel sorry for the player or squad that is that is at best, shallow, as they personally motivate themselves to take perilously, crooked, paths to achievements in this game.
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Maybe do away with the GV icons but make another DARBAR type flag (viewable to friends) showing that there are friendly GVs in the area - just not where. Maybe have the vehicle spawn arrow change colors for the friend side?
"Tiger approaching on your 9:00 O'Clock."
"He's driving up between you and Vinkman"
"Enemy Panzer over here by me."
None of these makes sense if you can't see where and which way your friendlies are facing. It's just confusion. :salute
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Please do not do away with the GV icon. This is. Very simple solution...Reduce size of icon m, problem solved.
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Seems like some (the OP) are taking about icons on the map, and others are talking about in-flight icons.
I'd like to see GV map icons smaller, or the town icon bigger, so they don't obscure the town. Otherwise, don't really care about map icons.
I'd really like to see GV in-flight icons made equally visible for friend and enemy. Getting dragged to a flak that the enemy can see from 5K -- but is invisible to me -- is getting old.
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Seems like some (the OP) are taking about icons on the map, and others are talking about in-flight icons.
I'd like to see GV map icons smaller, or the town icon bigger, so they don't obscure the town. Otherwise, don't really care about map icons.
I'd really like to see GV in-flight icons made equally visible for friend and enemy. Getting dragged to a flak that the enemy can see from 5K -- but is invisible to me -- is getting old.
I'm refering to map icons. Instead of looking at the map and seeing where every GV is, the map would display only friendly GVs within 6k (or other) of your location on the map. Like friendly GV radar that is centered around you. This would greatly deter Spying by camping at a remote location on the map and still having access to all the GV location information. But it would maintain the location information for a local battle you are coordinating with team mates.
:salute
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Also remember...that dot represents the maproom...not the town...on the furball island map...the dot is in the middle of the airbase icon...showing the maproom on the field
+1 on making maproom icon bigger so its not covered by friendly gv icons :aok
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Or just change the draw order so the town maproom dot is on top of the GV icons (and, I guess, change it's color so it stands out).
I too make use of friendly GV icons so I can understand the ground battle and decide where I need to be. For example, if there is no GV icon in town I head there to protect the maproom or if enemy are approaching from a general direction and part of it is not covered by friendly tanks, I'll move there.
I'm curious how real WWII tankers communicated tank to tank and called out targets? In AH the radio chatter is often entirely useless: "He's over by that tree! Yeah... the green one!!" or "He's behind that building... you know, the grey one!" I suspect real WWII tankers made reference to map named locations, but AH doesn't have any names and the terrain tile limitations mean things repeat a lot. So friendly GV icons can at least help define the battlefield.
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I'm pretty sure the purpose of the OP's wish is to prevent enemies from running to Wirbs while being chased.
Nope. Icepuck will launch an LVT and sit outside a town for hours repeatedly typing on country channel that he has troops at such and such a field and just needs every other player to take the town down for him. The icons are fine. :aok
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I'm sorry, but maybe a little logic should be applied here. If you cant see a town dot but one or more GV icons, it does not take a genius to figure out where the town is.
If revealing the location of the map room dot was the purpose of the OP, then this may be the least intelligent wish in the wishlist.
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Nope. Icepuck will launch an LVT and sit outside a town for hours repeatedly typing on country channel that he has troops at such and such a field and just needs every other player to take the town down for him. The icons are fine. :aok
I used to be the guy who flattened and prepped a field for taking but it seems that most attacks forget to bring troops so I adjusted my game.
Bringing troops any further than a local EZspawn is pretty low on the priority list of most here and is a lot of work.
When I see a cv needlessly sacrificed by being driven 10 sectors just to stop a half mile from being able to drop lvt for trooping, I wait until it has been sunk and move it into position to get out an LVT before it respawns.
I'm assuming my country wants that field if they send a cv there 27 times in a row.
The topic was about friendly MAP on the clipboard showing GV icons no matter where they are and the way it is abused by some to find GVs that are in places thought impossible to drive to........where nobody would be looking.
A large part of strategy and tactics is stealth and I believe having these icons is removing it.
Stealth was used in the real war......why squash it here?
Aren't we trying to embrace realism and immersion?
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It's like disabling friendly plane icons....why???
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...The topic was about friendly MAP on the clipboard showing GV icons no matter where they are and the way it is abused by some to find GVs that are in places thought impossible to drive to........where nobody would be looking.
A large part of strategy and tactics is stealth and I believe having these icons is removing it.
yes I agree. That's why my local Friendly GV Range radar idea is brilliant. :aok
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See Rules #7, #8
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At this rate we might as well get rid of aircraft icons too.
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See Rule #7
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See Rule #2
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At least make the vehicle icons smaller if that's possible.
Or, make the town icon larger :aok
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Or, make the town icon larger :aok
I'd say just make the town dot always on top.
As to the OP, sure. Let's just go all the way and make showing up on friendly radar optional regardless of whether we're in a GV or plane. That way we can hide from all the spiez we want no matter what we're doing.
Wiley.
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I'd say just make the town dot always on top.
As to the OP, sure. Let's just go all the way and make showing up on friendly radar optional regardless of whether we're in a GV or plane. That way we can hide from all the spiez we want no matter what we're doing.
Wiley.
I didn't suggest that..........I suggested that the change brought in for AH3 is not good.
It wasn't like that in AH2 and I don't consider it progress.
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I didn't suggest that..........I suggested that the change brought in for AH3 is not good.
It wasn't like that in AH2 and I don't consider it progress.
A large part of strategy and tactics is stealth and I believe having these icons is removing it.
Sure looks like it to me.
Wiley.