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Title: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Cannonfodder on June 25, 2017, 03:00:29 AM
Hi guys,
Just out of curiosity, (and a real need to know...LOL), would anybody like to share their favourite rides for upping at a capped base. I have always tried a Spit, and of course, have usually died.
Recently, I have tried a NIK, but, (can you guess???) usually die.
OK, I just usually die, no matter what.
Anyway, upping from a capped base provides a few seconds of heart thumping, frantic action, and is incredibly fun. Is there a foolproof airplane for the job?    :x
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Schwalbee on June 25, 2017, 03:20:54 AM
Hmmm i usually up a ki-43 or if there is a nearby carrier a fm2 because they are great turners ...i usually die too lol


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Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: BowHTR on June 25, 2017, 03:25:34 AM
my go to's are the Spit 9, Hurri 2 with the 4 x 20mm, Yak 3, and Yak 9T if there are soft vehicles in the area.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 25, 2017, 03:49:46 AM
my go to's are the Spit 9, Hurri 2 with the 4 x 20mm, Yak 3, and Yak 9T if there are soft vehicles in the area.
Show off!!! Canfod said best PLANE lol    As for me, Spit16. I usually up with the bombs when vehicles are around or the spit9 if just a furball. I see the Brewster a lot in a capped situation also. :neener:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 25, 2017, 05:04:33 AM
Hi guys,
Just out of curiosity, (and a real need to know...LOL), would anybody like to share their favourite rides for upping at a capped base. I have always tried a Spit, and of course, have usually died.
Recently, I have tried a NIK, but, (can you guess???) usually die.
OK, I just usually die, no matter what.
Anyway, upping from a capped base provides a few seconds of heart thumping, frantic action, and is incredibly fun. Is there a foolproof airplane for the job?    :x

Ki84 or La5/7. Mostly the Ki84  though because its a great defensive fighter. It's one of the best planes to roll when fighting CV planes off shore. It had the bullets to take down planes after an over shoot.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: kappa on June 25, 2017, 05:06:07 AM
easypz.. 109k4
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: thndregg on June 25, 2017, 07:15:41 AM
Never have been a real great fighter pilot, but I have always loved the nimble Yak9u.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: cav58d on June 25, 2017, 09:11:33 AM
Personally I like using the Brewster or KI-43.  I feel like I see a lot of others going for spot 16, LA7 and Yak3.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 25, 2017, 09:28:05 AM
I up a P47M, everything else is cheating.  :aok
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Chris79 on June 25, 2017, 09:30:21 AM
Yak3 with 50 percent fuel.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: JunkyII on June 25, 2017, 09:41:52 AM
TA152
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: caldera on June 25, 2017, 10:22:22 AM
#1  Up from one base back in a really slow ride and hope the bad guys are still around by the time you get there. 
#2  Drop on bad guys in futile attempt to kill them.
#3  Bad guys laugh and run away.
#4  Friendlies run bad guys down and kill them.
#5  Watch text buffer rack up multiple assists.

 :banana:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Canspec on June 25, 2017, 10:52:00 AM
easypz.. 109k4

Kappa!.....are you back?...... :old:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: hgtonyvi on June 25, 2017, 03:57:03 PM
F4U-1
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: cav58d on June 25, 2017, 06:18:28 PM
F4U-1

Wait, I thought you told me the hack only worked in the 1A.  We need to talk.

 :noid
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: stabbyy on June 25, 2017, 07:35:11 PM
B25H for me you can clear your 6 and your teammates blow up tanks and out HO everything(we all know it happens) and takes a bit to bring down also great for LVT's
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2017, 07:38:55 PM
would anybody like to share their favourite rides for upping at a capped base.

Wirbelwind  :devil
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: icepac on June 25, 2017, 07:51:46 PM
Yak9u from a base further away if nobody is defending.

I fly it NOE to hide the darbar and icon and can usually get one before they realize I am there going 360mph.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: save on June 25, 2017, 08:05:50 PM
If the enemy is not right on-top of the base, strafing the runway, a full set of B26 death-star style flying at the deck is probably the most effective way of defending it from the the air

Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: hgtonyvi on June 26, 2017, 01:50:52 AM
Wait, I thought you told me the hack only worked in the 1A.  We need to talk.

 :noid
Dude I really need to stop telling you stuff, Now you have gone to far to bring it to the boards... :bolt:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Zygote404 on June 26, 2017, 03:06:44 AM
KI84 is pretty awesome.  Accelerates fast, one of best climbers, good firepower, can out turn anything it can't out run and good vis.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Scca on June 26, 2017, 07:33:19 AM
LA7 or Yak-3.  Both are fast and have cannon, the Yak is small and hard to hit, the LA can get up to speed and be effective quite quickly. 
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: TWCAxew on June 26, 2017, 08:11:54 AM
brewster or an a-20 :cheers:

got a film where I shot down 7 guys in the a-20. they complemented me by telling me i was hacking  :airplane:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Shuffler on June 26, 2017, 08:25:21 AM
There is no fool proof plane.

I up a P38 J most any time.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: atlau on June 26, 2017, 09:21:53 AM
3xb25cs
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: nooby52 on June 26, 2017, 09:29:51 AM
La-7. I really hate seeing them when I'm not in one myself.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: waystin2 on June 26, 2017, 11:08:36 AM
If you get to choose it, then it's not really an uphill fight.  :aok  Some of the toughest fights tend to be whatever I get caught in low....
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: nickel5 on June 26, 2017, 11:15:53 AM
AR234 ! Best all around plane in the game ! ==<--O--O-->==
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Snork on June 26, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
There is no fool proof plane.


Every time they design a fool proof plane someone comes up with a better fool. That's how I got here!   :joystick:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: tmetal on June 26, 2017, 12:06:35 PM
I16.  Seriously.  Small, nimble target. OK guns with the 20mm's, and it gives only a small perk reward to the player who eventually shoots it down.  Plus with an open cockpit there is no canopy glass to muffle any blistering comments about the enemy's sheep shagging capabilities you might feel the need to throw out there.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: FBKampfer on June 26, 2017, 12:16:28 PM
K4 on 25% fuel feels kind of insane. If you get about 10 seconds to accelerate level, you'll give a few guys headaches.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Krusty on June 26, 2017, 02:28:03 PM
K4 on 25% fuel feels kind of insane. If you get about 10 seconds to accelerate level, you'll give a few guys headaches.


Heh, if you get 10 seconds to accelerate level in that configuration you'll just about run out of gas in that thing... but what a ride before you go!  :P
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: ACE on June 26, 2017, 02:56:06 PM
Ohhhh. I like the K4 and 152. They are fun while going up :)
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Krusty on June 26, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
In terms of an uphill fight it means fighting your way up to cons above you with alt and speed. Like rolling against a base attack where everybody has speed and alt on you. It means more than just upping as bait/distraction, it means taking the fight to them and stopping them. The Ta152 is not a good match for this. It's heavy, doesn't climb all that well, and not overly nimble.

I get that some folks just love a ride, and no problem with that. But not every plane is good in every situation. Some, like the P-47 and the Ta152 are very mediocre in the climbing category and as such will be significantly disadvantaged in these scenarios. While I love them I wouldn't up them under enemy fire.

The 109K-4 has a very excellent climb rate, thus it would be a good uphill battler. The Ki-84 has good low-to-mid-alt climb and can hang on its nose while still keeping its lightweight handling and stable guns platform. Yak-3 sounds like it more than owns most planes in the game, too. I'd say Spit16 still remains one of the best climbers and turn fighters in the game with a pair of hispanos and 50cals, so it will always be a good uphill fighter. My personal fav? I'll add a vote to a Ki-84 with 20 minutes' worth of gas (or less if I'm not going past the field boundary).
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: EagleDNY on June 26, 2017, 09:55:53 PM
If I have to get off the ground without being killed - Ki-84.  If I have a minute or so to get altitude and speed - 109 (either a K4 or a G14).  It makes no sense to up something that doesn't have enough firepower to get kills since if I am upping from a capped base it must be a very desperate situation. 
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Mister Fork on June 27, 2017, 10:22:38 AM
Yak-3 with 50% fuel is a beast. It's tiny, fast, accelerates like a cheetah, and turns like a Spitfire (not as good, but it's much faster) and it also has a tiny footprint in the air making it harder to hit.

I love getting on the tail of anything in the Yak and just hang on beating them up with MG's and closing in for kill with the 20mm.

It's low ammo #'s make it difficult to get more than 2 or 3 kills in a sortie but it's kinda like a ride on a fast but short rollercoaster. It's a lot of fun rolled up in a tiny plane.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 27, 2017, 05:25:38 PM
There are planes that were built for defending and planes built for attacking. Most of the time it's based on the country of the plane. US planes attack extremely well with altitude. Japanese​ planes are great for defending. 109s are great for both, Russian planes are generally great for both but better for defense.

The best defensive planes are: Ki84, Nik La7\5, 109K, G14, Yak3, A6M, ki43, any spit. These will get off the ground very quickly, and can turn instantly to force an over shoot. Cannons are the best option for defense. Counter punch defensive tactics to reverse an opponent and pop them with a cannon or 2 is very crucial. You want attack planes to go around and around losing their E to try to kill you. Getting them low and slow by incorperating the over shoot is key.

Krusty was correct in saying that some favorite planes mentioned are terrible defense planes because they are offense planes.  P47, P38, P51, 190D, 152s, typhoons ect, are all the worst planes you could possibly roll for base defense. Especially if you don't know what you are doing. These planes are best suited for going to a base and picking off the lower cons beneath you.

Choosing the right plan for the situation can be the difference in your overall performance in the game,ie getting more kills and landing them.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: atlau on June 27, 2017, 09:02:14 PM
There are planes that were built for defending and planes built for attacking. Most of the time it's based on the country of the plane. US planes attack extremely well with altitude. Japanese​ planes are great for defending. 109s are great for both, Russian planes are generally great for both but better for defense.

The best defensive planes are: Ki84, Nik La7\5, 109K, G14, Yak3, A6M, ki43, any spit. These will get off the ground very quickly, and can turn instantly to force an over shoot. Cannons are the best option for defense. Counter punch defensive tactics to reverse an opponent and pop them with a cannon or 2 is very crucial. You want attack planes to go around and around losing their E to try to kill you. Getting them low and slow by incorperating the over shoot is key.

Krusty was correct in saying that some favorite planes mentioned are terrible defense planes because they are offense planes.  P47, P38, P51, 190D, 152s, typhoons ect, are all the worst planes you could possibly roll for base defense. Especially if you don't know what you are doing. These planes are best suited for going to a base and picking off the lower cons beneath you.

Choosing the right plan for the situation can be the difference in your overall performance in the game,ie getting more kills and landing them.

Stop using logic!
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 28, 2017, 12:34:13 AM
Up from a different base in a fast moving plane of choice and attack those taking off from the base that the enemy is originating from.

You dont have to kill everything that ups. Just stay alive long enough keep the opponent busy for a little while while those at your base have a chance to recover.
This works 90% of the time as people 98% of the people upping from a base cannot help themselves but follow a lone attacking plane at their base like a school of well trained fish.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Lazerr on June 28, 2017, 01:35:35 AM
Up from a different base in a fast moving plane of choice and attack those taking off from the base that the enemy is originating from.

You dont have to kill everything that ups. Just stay alive long enough keep the opponent busy for a little while while those at your base have a chance to recover.
This works 90% of the time as people 98% of the people upping from a base cannot help themselves but follow a lone attacking plane at their base like a school of well trained fish.

Nailed it there.  Thats why its such a bummer to see folks using m3s to supply rather than fight it out.

La7/109k4 are great for this scenario
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 28, 2017, 03:30:33 AM
Stop using logic!
BUT...It makes sense! OOPS, my bad :bolt:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: 1stpar3 on June 28, 2017, 03:38:11 AM
Up from a different base in a fast moving plane of choice and attack those taking off from the base that the enemy is originating from.

You dont have to kill everything that ups. Just stay alive long enough keep the opponent busy for a little while while those at your base have a chance to recover.
This works 90% of the time as people 98% of the people upping from a base cannot help themselves but follow a lone attacking plane at their base like a school of well trained fish.
That explains alot! Know I understand why you are always killing my donkey on take offs, from back fields. Here I was thinking that you just had it in for me! I have seen you use that tactic quite a bit(interpreted- *&^%$%^ vulching A hole lol). It works too! I have seen it? Hey, at least now I know it isnt personal  :neener:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Lusche on June 28, 2017, 05:04:18 AM
You dont have to kill everything that ups. Just stay alive long enough keep the opponent busy for a little while while those at your base have a chance to recover.

I played "The Rat Catcher of Hamelin" in a 262 in the past at heavily capped bases. No way I'm going to kill 'em all by myself... but everybody wants to get a kill on a 262.
So I just throttled back, circled the field until I got their attention and then slowly pulled them away from the base... just slowed down enough to give em a fluff'n hope  :devil

Worked remarkably well. Use their greed against them, I say  :old:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: icepac on June 28, 2017, 06:18:13 AM
Up from a different base in a fast moving plane of choice and attack those taking off from the base that the enemy is originating from.

You dont have to kill everything that ups. Just stay alive long enough keep the opponent busy for a little while while those at your base have a chance to recover.
This works 90% of the time as people 98% of the people upping from a base cannot help themselves but follow a lone attacking plane at their base like a school of well trained fish.

Taking the attack to where the attackers are coming from is so overlooked and rare in the main arena.

I'll see guys taking off right under enemy fighter cap over and over for 3 hours with maybe one friendly dot headed to the enemy base.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: madrid311 on June 28, 2017, 08:43:05 AM
I'm thinking that the 3 hour people at a capped base upping over and over has to do with instant acton. This is not a game for people who have no patience. Takes awhile to fly from a further base to help and the juices are flowing. It's what I do after I get popped a few times, then I'll May be bring some heat from the closest base.  I like the fm2 women defending a capped base. Or a niki.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: FBKampfer on June 28, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
Not a recommended tactic, but one of the funniest things I've seen is 8 proxy kills in a Ki-43 by upping from a capped base, and letting the P-38 swarm auger as I frantically avoided gunfire.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Shuffler on June 28, 2017, 01:29:48 PM
I love when someone sees a P38J and thinks easy kill.   :banana:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 28, 2017, 02:47:56 PM
I love when someone sees a P38J and thinks easy kill.   :banana:

I love when P38s roll of semi capped bases  :banana:
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: BBQsam on June 28, 2017, 03:54:18 PM
OP:
"....would anybody like to share their favorite rides for upping at a capped base."

Simple:
Up the YB-40 of AH.  3 B-17 Mk40, 25% fuel, dump bombs immediately at launch.
 =
36  .50 cal guns.

Problem solved.

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Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Krusty on July 17, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
There is a different reason for upping a formation of B17s from a capped field, and it isn't so that you can rack up kills. There's another very real reason to roll it, but I won't get into it because it's rather lame IMO and you end up padding kills of vulchers to do it so both sides lose out.
Title: Re: Favourite rides for the uphill fight
Post by: Shuffler on July 17, 2017, 01:36:42 PM
There is a different reason for upping a formation of B17s from a capped field, and it isn't so that you can rack up kills. There's another very real reason to roll it, but I won't get into it because it's rather lame IMO and you end up padding kills of vulchers to do it so both sides lose out.

So up a B-38 instead.  :x