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Title: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: FESS67 on November 06, 2017, 06:53:10 PM
I always thought it odd that the game kicks everyone out when a map is won.  I understand the need to reset the room but I think it would be better to move everyone to a lobby rather than boot them as it would keep them engaged in the game.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: FLS on November 06, 2017, 08:43:48 PM
Nice idea.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Oldman731 on November 06, 2017, 08:51:02 PM
Nice idea.


Agreed.

- oldman
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Easyscor on November 06, 2017, 10:34:43 PM
Indeed. I hope it works.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: nrshida on November 07, 2017, 12:23:06 AM
Good idea, abouty half seem to leave the game when this happens.

Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Bruv119 on November 07, 2017, 01:19:29 AM
+1
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: lunatic1 on November 07, 2017, 02:18:47 AM
I don't think they can do that and I am probably wrong. the map is shutting down, it's like game over, new map log back in.
but seems to me if they could hold people in the O'club they would have done it years ago.
one reason I tell the new players whats going on when a map is won so they don't think they did something wrong so they will log back in.
Besides there's not enough beer in the O'club anyway.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: FESS67 on November 07, 2017, 05:22:25 AM
Lunatic,  I am sure there are technical hurdles to overcome however when a map ends no other arena has to close so my thinking is a 'lobby' room could be persistent and when a map ends the players get delivered there.  Imagine a big chat room of people who have just had a ball fighting each other and can chat about it for a few minutes before the room reset.

Live for the positives sir
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: BowHTR on November 07, 2017, 06:24:13 AM
 :headscratch:

There's already a lobby.....
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: oboe on November 07, 2017, 07:17:53 AM
+1

I am sure Hitech could make this change if he wants to, that is I don't think there's much beyond his capability as a programmer.  But, it might mean taking the existing program apart and rebuilding it with an altered structure - like maybe a shell program surrounding the current exe that maintains our connection data, provides the Lobby area, etc.
So it might be pretty involved coding-wise.

Still, glad to see this suggestion made because being kicked out with a "Host Connection Lost" message or something like that, even after multiple text warnings about the arena resetting is not a good thing IMO.   I think we just all got used to "that's the way it works" and never really questioned it.

Best situation I think would be to be placed in a Lobby area where you can chat with your country-mates, maybe click a link to go check stats from the last tour (might be cool to have stats available by each map within a tour?), or your current score, all the while a message box or status bar shows the "Arena is resetting..." progress.    When the new map is ready you're placed back in tower at a field.

Another option would be when we are booted from the arena at reset, we are sent back to the arena selection menu - that way we at least stay in the game. 

 :aok


Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: 100Coogn on November 07, 2017, 07:19:46 AM
The other arenas don't shut down during a map change, why should the lobby.   :headscratch:

Coogan
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Mister Fork on November 07, 2017, 09:47:06 AM
Agreed. It seems a little old-school just to punt everyone from the game - when moving them into the lobby with a message "please wait 1 minute for the map to reset" instead of a CTD type of approach. 

Or better yet, move them all into the AvA :x
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Randy1 on November 07, 2017, 10:03:59 AM
My WAG guess is the server has to reset all of the stuff(very technical term here).

+1
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Petey on November 07, 2017, 10:18:04 AM
+1
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: AAIK on November 07, 2017, 10:21:40 AM
Yea, I always thought the current behaviour was weird; though I never openly said it. Thanks FESS67 for saying it on our behalf.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: puller on November 07, 2017, 10:32:30 AM
Don't have time to search forum but Randy1 is on track...I remember seeing somewhere that the server has to reboot or something and people cannot be in the arena when this happens...

So I figure the wish should be something along the lines of " After a map/server reset. I wish that I would be placed back into the MA once the new map is loaded."
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: The Fugitive on November 07, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
The lobby where you select which arena you want to play in is outside the reset other wise ALL the arenas on the server would reset when one did.

The request is to have you booted to that lobby for the reset.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: ImADot on November 07, 2017, 12:56:09 PM
The lobby where you select which arena you want to play in is outside the reset other wise ALL the arenas on the server would reset when one did.

The request is to have you booted to that lobby for the reset.

You sure? When you're at the arena selection screen, isn't there a lobby button and a checkbox to "always enter lobby" when you go online? Or did Hitech remove the actual lobby that I remember from the AH2 days.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: 100Coogn on November 07, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
You sure? When you're at the arena selection screen, isn't there a lobby button and a checkbox to "always enter lobby" when you go online? Or did Hitech remove the actual lobby that I remember from the AH2 days.

You are correct on both accounts.
You can select the lobby, before choosing any arena.
There is a check-box to always enter lobby.

Coogan
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: The Fugitive on November 07, 2017, 03:51:45 PM
You sure? When you're at the arena selection screen, isn't there a lobby button and a checkbox to "always enter lobby" when you go online? Or did Hitech remove the actual lobby that I remember from the AH2 days.

The point is in stead of dumping you to your desktop on an arena reset they could dump you to the arena selection screen so you can just click the "Melee" arena and get right back in. Alot of people just dont bother to "reload" everything once they get dumped to the desktop.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Easyscor on November 07, 2017, 04:37:12 PM
It just occurred to me that with the current situation, if that happened, the Melee arena will show as Closed until the player exits the game and comes back. That would need to changed as well. The list would need to refresh after the reload.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: lunatic1 on November 08, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
but the beer man the BEER-if they don't run out they will surly raise the price.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: FLS on November 08, 2017, 12:41:16 PM
You seem to be confusing the Lobby and the O'Club.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: ccvi on November 08, 2017, 01:52:36 PM
It just occurred to me that with the current situation, if that happened, the Melee arena will show as Closed until the player exits the game and comes back. That would need to changed as well. The list would need to refresh after the reload.

This wish already exists:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389300.0.html
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Easyscor on November 08, 2017, 02:07:14 PM
This wish already exists:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,389300.0.html

Another good wish. +1
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Chilli on November 08, 2017, 02:49:55 PM
 :aok

Not knowing why it is done any other way.  Be prepared to receive your answer in terms of "buy a watch" or "learn some math" even "just count" and push that heavy desktop aside once again.

Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: 1stpar3 on November 08, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
 :aok Hitech has already put MATH ON NOTICE!   In the fine print of Game credits and I quote  "MATH, solve your own problems" :rofl So buy a watch would work :cheers:
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 08, 2017, 08:06:43 PM
If this can be done. It would be a very good idea.

+1

Anything to keep people in the game!
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: perdue3 on November 11, 2017, 01:05:42 AM
I always thought it odd that the game kicks everyone out when a map is won.  I understand the need to reset the room but I think it would be better to move everyone to a lobby rather than boot them as it would keep them engaged in the game.

Better idea: Go to WWI arena for 10 mins. Crazy and intense fighting on there.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: caldera on November 11, 2017, 07:16:47 AM
The pop-up "Host Connection Lost" - followed by a boot to the desktop, is a terrible implementation of a map change. 


At bare minimum, the pop-up should say "The Bish/Rook/Nits have won the war! -  But a new war has just begun..."

Then, clicking OK should take the player to the screen listing the arenas. 


Making a player have to log back in is unnecessarily adding to the tedium.  And with brand new players, the whole confusing event may turn them off completely.
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: Kingpin on November 15, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
 :aok  100% a good idea

Intentionally kicking players to desktop is not good.  It's probably one of the reasons we lose half or more of the players after many arena resets.

A "Rooks Won The War - Resetting Map" message with an "OK" button that sends them to the arena list is a good idea.

Also change "Closed" to "Loading" for the arena list.  It may be a good idea to have a short timed refresh of the list, so that Loading will change to the pop numbers when ready.  Perhaps refresh the arena list every 60 seconds or so?
Title: Re: Please do not dump people from game between maps - push them to a lobby
Post by: buddyshamrock on November 16, 2017, 10:47:17 PM
Great idea.