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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: perdue3 on November 17, 2017, 08:27:14 PM
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When did this happen and why am I just now learning?!?!
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When did this happen and why am I just now learning?!?!
First time I think it was posted on the forums to the best of my knowledge. :headscratch:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,390032.0.html
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The Yak-9T was essentially a Yak-9 with the cockpit moved back 0.4m to allow space for the 37mm gun. To simplify production Yak then made the Yak-9M, which had the rearward Yak 9T cockpit position but with the 20 mm cannon from the Yak-9. So our AH 9T is actually a 9T/9M hybrid.
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The "T" was for tank. The 37mm cannon could penetrate 2 inches of armor from about a half mile. Wasn't the "M" the long range version?
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The T was never for Tank.
It wasn't a tank gun, and it wasn't an anti tank gun. Somebody uninformed saw how big it was and made the connection that it was as big as a tank's gun (must remember the time frame, some tanks at the time still had quite small guns compared to end-war stuff).
It's an oft-repeated but debunked story that keeps popping up, so please don't feel offended that I had to correct it.
The Yak-9D was the long range version, if I recall.
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The "T" was for tank. The 37mm cannon could penetrate 2 inches of armor from about a half mile. Wasn't the "M" the long range version?
The long range version was the "L" model. The "M" stood for Minesweeper.
:rolleyes:
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Well there was an actual M variant... but it was just a further development of the -D. The D gave about 50% more fuel tankage than the standard -9T, and the -DD had even more (Yes, it was called the Yak-9DD, insert your joke here). They saw limited use as bomber escorts for Pe-2s and B-17s it seems.
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according to the Soviet film I saw It was used as an anti tank plane and it was an anti tank gun, used as an air v air weapon.
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Maybe the Soviets had correct intel on Their own weapons.
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Erm... nope. Sorry. That film was wrong.
This is why I had to mention it: One of those things that gets repeated often enough people think it's correct but it never was.
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Maybe the Soviets had correct intel on Their own weapons.
At some point one starts to belive his own propaganda...
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Thank you for the responses. My question was not regarding "why" we have a 20mm option, rather when did we get it?
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I can't remember it not being in there... as far as I can recall, it always has had the 20, but if you're going to use the 20, you may as well use the 9U and get a bit better handling and range out of the plane.
The 37 is pretty fun for deacking small fields though if you have decent aim.
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I believe it got the 20mm option when the Yaks were updated and the 7B was introduced.
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I can't remember it not being in there... as far as I can recall, it always has had the 20, but if you're going to use the 20, you may as well use the 9U and get a bit better handling and range out of the plane.
The 37 is pretty fun for deacking small fields though if you have decent aim.
it's also very good on some vehicles, top rear deck on the panzer is usually an easy kill.
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I believe it got the 20mm option when the Yaks were updated and the 7B was introduced.
Yes, I think it happened at that time.
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it's also very good on some vehicles, top rear deck on the panzer is usually an easy kill.
I have tried that too many times with poor results. Everything from your speed nose down to the ground to the speed of the target, to the relative angles to the situation and your orientation (needing to correct as you make your attack) can put that round somewhere where it does nothing. There's too few of them to waste like that.
IMO, of course.
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It was my understanding that the T was for тяжёлый.
-Sik
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The same model as 9T w/37mm had a 45mm.....Yes..Antitank gun.
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Was not used as a tankbuster. That was sorted out some years ago. The Western military folks assumed that role for it but it was erroneous. It did not carry AP ammo but HE.
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The same model as 9T w/37mm had a 45mm.....Yes..Antitank gun.
Rod, you're enthusiastic. I'll give you that. But you're not doing research with credible sources and it's showing in this and a lot of other topics.
Caliber alone does not denote role or purpose of a round. The NS-45 was not a tank gun nor an anti-tank gun. In fact it was mounted on the Tu-1 night fighter (which was cancelled).
The NS-45 was tested in limited numbers before the end of the war as a way to improve air to air kills. It was effectively called the Yak-9K ("K" standing for some russian word denoting caliber) and had so much force of recoil it damaged the airframes used to test it. It also could only aim the first round, supposedly because the recoil made subsequent rounds impossible to control. A short burst at maximum speed was enough to significantly slow down and destabilize the plane's flight, reportedly bursting hoses or breaking fittings in the plane as it did.
However, it did score a number of kills in the trial, notably against Fw190s and Bf109s.
It was an air to air gun.