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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chris79 on January 01, 2018, 10:39:40 AM
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I looked and beheld a pale horse and his name that sat on him was cold and snow followed with him.
(https://image.ibb.co/eDJkGb/IMG_1213.png) (https://ibb.co/iLCZ9w)
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Nine years ago… Al Gore Predicted North Pole Would Be Completely Ice Free by Today :rofl
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/nine-years-ago-al-gore-predicted-north-pole-completely-ice-free-today/
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Nine years ago… Al Gore Predicted North Pole Would Be Completely Ice Free by Today :rofl
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/nine-years-ago-al-gore-predicted-north-pole-completely-ice-free-today/
That's like being on the tail of the Titanic as it's sinking saying "If we're sinking, why am I 300 feet in the air?"
Weather an climate are two different things, though weather is linked to climate. The extremes we're seeing is a result of climate change. Whether you accept that or not is of no real concern to the fact.
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The weather and climate were invented in England in 1034 by a Swine herd called Erwin the Fat.
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The weather and climate were invented in England in 1034 by a Swine herd called Erwin the Fat.
A distant ancestor of yours?
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That's like being on the tail of the Titanic as it's sinking saying "If we're sinking, why am I 300 feet in the air?"
Weather an climate are two different things, though weather is linked to climate. The extremes we're seeing is a result of climate change. Whether you accept that or not is of no real concern to the fact.
Whoaaaa!!!!
You've made a total non-sequitur. He did not deny climate change, only pointed out the idiocy of Al Gore and his grossly exaggerated predictions. Al also stated that Kilimanjaro would be snow free by 2016, and Polar Bears would be virtually extinct, while those things might come to pass someday, the REAL scientists acknowledge that that day is still at least 50-100+ years away, and that there is not anything humankind can do to appreciably effect it.
Climate change is real (change is the only constant over the earths 4+ billion year history), and Al Gore is a blithering idiot/con man... the two are not mutually exclusive.
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[And .... I'm out of the thread before I was even IN before lock.] :eek:
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Florida has a wind chill advisory because the wind chill might drop below +35 degrees F
We have a wind chill advisory because the wind chill might drop to -15 degrees F
:rolleyes:
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Florida has a wind chill advisory because the wind chill might drop below +35 degrees F
We have a wind chill advisory because the wind chill might drop to -15 degrees F
:rolleyes:
Bahhh... It's all relative. My rule at work is that I don't put on the insulated Carhartt bibs to work outside till it's colder then -25°F. It's been a rather mild winter so far, only gotten them out for a couple days.
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Anyone trying to use a short period of cold weather as an argument in the climate change debate only proves that he have no idea what he is talking about.
Globally we're still ~1 C above average:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSdhOqZXUAA_lJV.jpg)
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Zimmie, don't bother...you know what the great philosopher Ron White has to say on the subject...
"You just can't fix....."
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Zimmie, don't bother...you know what the great philosopher Ron White has to say on the subject...
"You just can't fix....."
I know... Its funny how many people there are that thinks that they can deny the laws of thermodynamics, I wonder if they think that if they dont believe in gravity they will not fall of the roof..
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See Rule #14
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Last time I saw it snow in Florida was Christmas Eve and Christmas day 1989...
It was my oldest daughter's first Christmas, she was just over 10 months old....
Florida shutdown all the major highways I-95, I-295, I-10, US 1, etc.... one of the funniest things I've seen, nobody knew how to drive and they all seemed scared to death out on the roads that Christmas Eve doing their last minute shopping....
It didn't hardly even snow much....enough to cover the ground, but most were lucky if they even got 2 inches of snow
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Here in the South if the word "snow" is even mentioned in a weather report, all bread, water and alcohol disappear in 20 minutes, schools shut down and insanity reigns. Then if it does really now...it seems that every person who DOESN'T know how to drive in it comes out.
I do have a question....in all of those places that have lot of snow, and everyone says that they know how to drive in it...EVERY year, when it happens, you see hundreds of accidents from people who should have had the sense to stay the hell out of it. Why?
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Just because you think you can drive in it, does not mean you should.
Anyone with a clear understanding of friction coefficients should be terrified to do so.
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To overcome friction coefficients just hammer 16 penny nails into your tire works like a charm to get a grip on the road.
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People tend to forget how to drive in the winter over the nicer months then go careening all over the road once the first snow hits. Usually takes a week for people to remember that you have to drive differently.
Then there’s always some who probably shouldn’t be on the road in the first place..
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To overcome friction coefficients just hammer 16 penny nails into your tire works like a charm to get a grip on the road.
Or stop using wooden tires.
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:)
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Or stop using wooden tires.
You are from Texas. The last person I would trust to give me advice about driving in the snow, would be someone from Texas,....or Florida,....or any southern U.S. state.
The fact you think wooden tires are still in use makes my point for me. :)
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You are from Texas. The last person I would trust to give me advice about driving in the snow, would be someone from Texas,....or Florida,....or any southern U.S. state.
The fact you think wooden tires are still in use makes my point for me. :)
I've lived outside Texas. I've lived in snow. The fact that someone suggested hammering nails into my tires for traction and the tires weren't made of wood ..... well .... I'm not sure where noman's from but he's not on the top of my list for snow driving advice. ;)
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People tend to forget how to drive in the winter over the nicer months then go careening all over the road once the first snow hits. Usually takes a week for people to remember that you have to drive differently.
Then there’s always some who probably shouldn’t be on the road in the first place..
This. Tailgating has become such a way of life when snow/ice enters the picture there is a period of adjustment as people relearn physics. There's also the factor of people thinking since they have ABS their car will stop like it's summer.
Another factor with more vehicles being AWD, it's easy for icy conditions to sneak up on you because if you're driving sanely, the "go" portion of driving is deceptively easy and you may not realize it's slick until you attempt to stop.
Wiley.
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Two headlines seen every year:
Snow took the ploughers by surprise - the ploughs are still in the backyards waiting for off season maintenance.
Snow took the drivers by surprise - still using summer tires.
I must admit it's always a little scary during the first couple of weeks. Not only because of my poor skills but because there's always someone too confident on his skills.
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And that is my issue Bizman. I am not worried I cannot handle it, I am concerned about the idiots who think they can handle it.
The worst, are the people driving 4 wheel drive things. They seem to think that it makes them impervious to black ice. Go figure.
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HAHA I am from Southeast Texas. I saw it on Facebook it has to be true right? :O
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:)
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HAHA I am from Southeast Texas.
That might actually support Skuzzy's point. ;)
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Acceleration and Deceleration should be minimized -- Your tires will spin when you try and go, and slide when you try and stop. Best practice, let your engine/transmission do the work on both ends. Idle up to rolling before you put your foot on the gas. When braking, take into account the fact you'll need much longer to decelerate, again letting the engine dictate the spin of the wheels, this will keep them gripping. When your breaks become needed, pump them slowly and gently to a stop, don't stop on them. ABS doesn't work when there's ice on the ground.
Basic rule -- don't drive like a jackwad, and/or learn to drive like a 90 year old woman. :old:
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That is what cars/trucks need. A "Jackwad" reminder.
It plops down from the visor in front of you when you are driving like an idiot on snow/ice and says, in big flashing letters, "Stop being a JACKWAD!".
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Try the million dollar highway between Ouray and Durango CO in the winter. The pucker factor on that bad boy is high enough when the roads are nice in the summer.
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Stoners + Snow = Bad Trips. :)
Hey, I have seen "Disjointed".
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:rofl
Stoners + Snow = Bad Trips. :)
Hey, I have seen "Disjointed".
:rofl
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Stoners + Snow = Bad Trips. :)
Hey, I have seen "Disjointed".
Kelly and I love that show. :D
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Acceleration and Deceleration should be minimized -- Your tires will spin when you try and go, and slide when you try and stop. Best practice, let your engine/transmission do the work on both ends. Idle up to rolling before you put your foot on the gas. When braking, take into account the fact you'll need much longer to decelerate, again letting the engine dictate the spin of the wheels, this will keep them gripping. When your breaks become needed, pump them slowly and gently to a stop, don't stop on them. ABS doesn't work when there's ice on the ground.
Basic rule -- don't drive like a jackwad, and/or learn to drive like a 90 year old woman. :old:
That is why a manual transmission is nice to have.
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Dont get worked up over it, driving while nervous just makes it worse. 4 wheel drive can help you go but it wont help you stop. Start slowing down WAY in advance, and use the brakes as little as possible. Give the other cars on the road more than enough room, so when they bellybutton it up, they dont take you out with them. Carry on as usual, just a little slower. :cheers:
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As my dad used to say, in the winter you should drive with the best winter tires as if they were worn out summer slicks.
About 2 ft of snow here, but it has been raining pure water for the last day and it's above freezing point. Wet ice, what could be more slippery?
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when it rains on the icy road and its below freezing temperatures...
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When I was a teenager in Maryland I hit black ice once on a 50ft raised road bed with trees and swamps below each side. My car did two 360's going down the road and stopped once it was off the ice. I turned 100 that day and have driven like that since. Every last thing they said in Drivers Ed came true in 10 seconds and there was nothing you could do to stop it. I got an A in Drivers Ed three years earlier when I was 15, and the practical driving part of the class was during the spring in sunny weather.
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My education in what ice can do came when we'd had a particularly nasty ice storm (which we never got in that area) when I was about 16.
I had to go someplace in a small town that had virtually no street cleaning. The main street had a layer of ice on it at least an inch thick. It literally looked exactly like a curling rink. Uniformly flat, with pebbling. Never seen anything like it before or since. I was driving a 76 Buick Century with all season tires on it.
I was going down the main street of the town at 5 mph and braked to turn on the cross street. Instant tire lock. I put the car in neutral and braked. Instant tire lock. It took me half a block before the car was slow enough to turn, so I wound up taking the next corner to get where I needed to.
The interesting part came on the way home I got out on the highway and babied the car up to about 35mph. The highway didn't seem to be too bad so I gave it a little bit more gas. The car didn't even shift down, but the back end fishtailed. Mercifully there was nobody else on the road because it took me the entire highway, ditch to ditch, and two oscillations back and forth to get control back. I settled back in at about 30mph and continued on my way.
That was the fastest I've ever been going when I lost traction, and I have not cared to repeat the experience since. It was no fun. I have always been lucky in cars for the most part, largely due to that incident making me a lot more cautious.
Wiley.
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learn to drive like a 90 year old woman.
This is key.
- oldman
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Looks like NE US is going to get some snow.. Pressure droped 54mb in 24 hours
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSszE-fWkAADtU8.jpg)
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We were fortunate here. We had about 3 days of sub 32F temperatures, but it was mostly dry. Thank goodness. All it takes is one snow flake on the ground and everyone panics.
Our house has a vantage point overseeing a really busy intersection. Last snow/ice fall we had we counted 41 accidents at that intersection, in less than 16 hours. Most were minor. We played a drinking game while watching. Got plenty plowed myself. :)
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I moved to California from Montana, so I was pretty used to driving in crappy conditions. Here, the mere mention of rain and traffic grinds to a halt, cars mysteriously burst into flames and the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse can be seen charging in to seal the fate of the non-believers.
There's a crappy interchange here on a couple of freeways and it combines a downhill, then uphill 90 degree turn and it's banked the wrong way. All sorts of signs with the squiggly car lines and showing tipping over semi trucks, and it's been that way for years... you would think people would get it, but no.
One morning on my way to work, it was sprinkling lightly. As I come around that turn there's one car crashed into the wall, another flipped on it's top halfway down an offramp and another somehow high centered onto the railing past the ramp. The only thing I could think was "put the hammer down Cole, hold your line and drive on through!". Needless to say, I made it through that deathtrap just fine by slowing to the suggested speed and driving to the conditions of the road. :old:
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We have an onramp similar to that. It is a decreasing radius turn, which shifts from positive camber to negative camber. You can see all the tires marks on the road at the camber change and the obvious damage the concrete and steel rail have had to endure.
Guys, in their pickup trucks, who like to tailgate my Mini are quite funny to watch as the load shifts in the camber change and they screech into the rails, every time. I just call 911 and tell them they need to send a tow truck to the location.
The Mini is so light the moment of inertia, at the camber shift, is just a quick undulation and it settles in. People do not get it.
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When I was a teenager in Maryland I hit black ice once on a 50ft raised road bed with trees and swamps below each side. My car did two 360's going down the road and stopped once it was off the ice. I turned 100 that day and have driven like that since. Every last thing they said in Drivers Ed came true in 10 seconds and there was nothing you could do to stop it. I got an A in Drivers Ed three years earlier when I was 15, and the practical driving part of the class was during the spring in sunny weather.
That happened to me in college in the Adirondacks one winter night in the 80's. I had a Jeep full of girls and skis, driving back from Lake Placid. I came over the crest of a hill at about 40 mph, and saw a sheen in the asphalt as far as the headlights could light up. Took my foot off the gas and tried to stay straight as long as I could. Once I started to drift into the slo-mo 360's, the girls started squealing. I was doing all the right stuff, trying to counter turn, not using brakes. I was a bit scared until I realized we weren't going to flip over. Just kept doing these slow-rate 360's for about a quarter mile down the hill. Came to rest with a bump at the bottom, against a cable guard rail. Only damage was one dent in the passenger side fender that I pulled away from the tire, and a chewed up plastic fender flare. Put it in gear, and kept driving home.
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When I was twenty, I worked out in the Columbia River Gorge. We had had a rainy fall, and I had been racing the firebird a lot, since I didn't lose half the rubber on my tires drifting the corners when it rained. I was planning on another little road rally after work.
Forcast changed while I was at work, and I had about a half inch of freezing rain, and then sleet on top of it. I was crawling along at 20mph, went into a turn, and made the mistake of breaking partway through. Lost traction, the road stopped turning, but I didn't. Slid sideways down a hill, and then the car decided to roll over at the bottom and into the ditch, pinning both doors, and the rear hatch in place. Had to exit through the front windshield.
diddlyed up the side panels, a door, and the me-sized hole in the windshield. They determined that the windshield put the car over the edge of totaled.
I got out without a scratch, but coming up on four years later, I still hate driving in winter. I can do it fine, I just dropped off a mustang at my friends house through freezing rain and sleet, but I hate doing it. Small mistakes can turn deadly in a heartbeat, and you're at the mercy of fate as far as how exactly the car behaves sometimes. My accident could have been a lot worse if I'd breaked through a turn half a mile sooner; I had been following railroad tracks 50ft down in a gully for most of that drive.
I've noticed I'm really resentful of the weather after that event though :old:.
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That is why I stay at home on those days.
I have seen cars/trucks, literally, blown off the road by gusts of wind hitting them in the side. Nothing they could do but ride it out and hope for the best.
Not worth the risk.
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One of my scariest winter moments in the car was when I lost control at 100 km/h (~70 mph). The road was icy along the centre line and wet on the ditch side, so the left side of the car had less friction than the right one. I had just passed by a slower car when I started using the entire width of the road. Luckily no one was coming from the opposite direction. After a few curves I drew off on the other side of the road, made a flip in the air and ended up lying on the left side of the car in the ditch, rear window smashed.
It was so slippery that the tow car started sliding when it tried to pull me off the ditch. They had to ask for help from a truck from the same company to keep from ending into the same dike. I finally got to my destination where they took my car for inspection. A piece of plastic attached with duck tape replaced the rear window and I drove like that for the next couple of weeks until they had time to repair the car.
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100kph is 61mph.
So who has tried ice racing? Years ago there was a track at Val de Bois that let people take their cars out on. Gave it a go with my GT6+. No I didn't end up in a snow bank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-FLHdE75A4
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Living in the Great Lakes Snowbelt we are used to it. I've driven in bad weather for 52 years and never an accident. (crosses fingers). There are certain rules we follow in bad weather. Some of us were required to be at work so we HAD to go. Some of us were driving to work at 2AM if needed. Up north we practice good SA in real life in this weather. Brakes....minimal use. Let your vehicle naturally slow down well before hand. Then Tap the brakes. If you make the mistake of mashing your brakes and locking them up you have no control whatsoever of your vehicle. Tap Tap Tap will slow your vehicle and keep it under control. You get stupid you could be sideways going into a ditch or another car. Patience. Plan ahead. drive a familiar route to where you are going. You don't have to set records going from point A to point B just get there. Leave early if you can.
Now.....I must admit I enjoy watching film of people in the south driving in winter weather. I've never seen people more stupid in my life. They do however make me laugh. If you don't have an idea how to drive in icy and snowy conditions do yourself and others a favor, stay off the roads. Someone mentioned 4X4 vehicles. Some drivers of these vehicles have no common sense. I see a lot of them on their side and even upside down on the Ohio Turnpike and Interstates 90, 71 and 77. Clue. Ya they go great. Because of the job I worked I've owned two of them. However they have the same problem stopping and turning as any other vehicle on the road.
Just be careful folks. And for you AH'ers, apply strict and common sense SA...for real.
Also driving in icy and snowy weather transmissions have a differing effect. If on a bridge that is a curve with an auto transmission let your foot off the accelerator. Take note. Try to sense your vehicles rear end traction. You don't want to downshift into a gear that will cause your vehicles rear tires to lose traction, or don't match your speed. If in a manual transmission just use the clutch and cruise through the bend without any input to the drivetrain of your vehicle. Same as I explained above with an auto transmission. You don't want positive or negative input to your rear end. You want Zero input. This is important. Keeps the back of your car from passing the front. (this of course is for rear wheel driven vehicles)
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Hajo,
Come across the lake and I'll show you some real snow!
I'll take you where I grew up,up on Georgian Bay,you just learn to adjust your driving or you end up in the ditch!
Good tires,plenty of washer fluid and always carry a first aid kit and some food and water.WE also pack a few blankets and a couple of heat candles! If you dont know what a heat candle is it's just a home made candle that you add several wicks and mix some saw dust into the wax. It can be the difference between life and death when it's -30 C! It all fits in a small gym bag and we always carry a few blankets all year round.
:salute
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The tale of two extremes:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSwNDDXUQAEadE2.png)
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I read somewhere that the weather has been odd for 20,000 years and this is why people have gone all over the world.
Apparently the weather is reverting back to how it should be.
It always rains in Northern England yet we run out of water in the Summer, this is down to the French owning our water companies, you could not make it up :rofl
The Germans own the power companies.
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Drove over to Cabelas in Olympia(Lacy) WA to buy a new rifle scope yesterday..
52deg, mixed clouds/sunshine, intermittent heavy rain, and a little windy..
The Olympic peninsula may have a reputation for raining a lot..
But the weather never gets too extreme, and the summers are GLORIOUS!
We just have the most dangerous fault line in the world, right off the coast!
And a string of volcanoes connected to it, on our doorstep..
Ah well, goes to show, there is no such thing as paradise!
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Anyone trying to use a short period of cold weather as an argument in the climate change debate only proves that he have no idea what he is talking about.
Globally we're still ~1 C above average:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSdhOqZXUAA_lJV.jpg)
Any good scientist would avoid believing in hypotheses. The more positive and arrogant the chicken little, only proves he have no idea what he is talking about.
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See Rule #14
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And when you can support your hypothesis with a ton of data you can assume that the hypothesis is valid, especially when other scientists test it and come to the same conclusions.
And since every major player like NASA, ESA etc have delivered a ton of data and it all shows that global warming is happening there is no reason to dismiss the theory. Scientifically speaking its uncontroversial. How we are going to deal with it are not..
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This thread has gone political.
Having said that, hypothesis is the starting point for scientific investigation. No hypothesis = no investigation. Politicians bought off by lobbyists are the loudest, most ignorant, most arrogant voices around.
Yes! Also, the hypothesis has been around for a long time and the proof of climate change is insurmountable, and the cause for that climate change is absolutely evident within the time frame that it has occurred. the only other rapid changes have been due to natural catastrophes like meteor strikes or cataclysmic volcanic eruptions. We have had neither of these in the time of the change, but we have had massive amounts of carbon released due to gasoline, coal and other human stupidity.
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See Rule #14
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Corrupted data from "scientists" who only care about maintaining
their funding, is worse than no data at all.. Most of their benefactors
being involved in the "Climate Exchange" and "Carbon Offsets" business,
putting billions of $ in investments at stake, introduces a corrupting
element that cannot be ignored.. The word is out, it's a scam!
Their "Climate Change" sponsors, many being the biggest political and
financial names in the world, havINg a vested financial interest
of Billions to "Hide the decline", says it all! THEY'RE BUSTED!
You see, when your arguments looks like this you know you have lost. Conspiracy theories isnt going to win any debate for you.
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They have been exposed as falsifying their "Data"..
That is no "Conspiracy Theory", that is plain cold fact..
And the $$$ motivation is obvious as well, this has been
public information for a long time now!
HumptyDumpty has fallen off the wall!
No amount of Green Koolade can put him back together!
The word is out, average people know, nothing can take it back!
Another nightmare avoided!
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And you just proved my point...
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Corrupted data from "scientists" who only care about maintaining
their funding, is worse than no data at all.. Most of their benefactors
being involved in the "Climate Exchange" and "Carbon Offsets" business,
putting billions of $ in investments at stake, introduces a corrupting
element that cannot be ignored.. The word is out, it's a scam!
Their "Climate Change" sponsors, many being the biggest political and
financial names in the world, havINg a vested financial interest
of Billions to "Hide the decline", says it all! THEY'RE BUSTED!
What a load of bovine excrement. Puleeze.
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Ah, the aroma of blue Koolade is strong in here.. :rofl
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Baseless claims without anything to back it up with. Really convincing..
If you can prove that the data is wrong, be my guest. But you are going to need some really hard evidence to back it up with..
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I assume you have heard of google, use it!
I'm not going to do your work for ya..
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I assume you have heard of google, use it!
I'm not going to do your work for ya..
Lol, thats not how it works, you made the claim so the burden of proof is on you.
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I didn't make the claim, the info is all over the place..
If you are not seeing it, it is because you don't want to!
Regardless, the public polls show, the population has seen it!
And that is all that matters! Another nightmare avoided!
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I didn't make the claim, the info is all over the place..
If you are not seeing it, it is because you don't want to!
Regardless, the public polls show, the population has seen it!
And that is all that matters! Another nightmare avoided!
Bogus information, you mean. This information and most of the "scientists" have been debunked. I recall one, who wasn't even a climate scientist who based his expertise on "about 30 minutes on Google." The bleatings of the deniers are hilarious.
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Anyone trying to use a short period of cold weather as an argument in the climate change debate only proves that he have no idea what he is talking about.
Globally we're still ~1 C above average:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSdhOqZXUAA_lJV.jpg)
Sucks being in that blue zone around the great lakes.
-19 last night.
Brrr
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Sucks being in that blue zone around the great lakes.
-19 last night.
Brrr
It's been cold down here in Georgia too, but never fear! By Friday it's going to be 72.
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Yes! Also, the hypothesis has been around for a long time and the proof of climate change is insurmountable, and the cause for that climate change is absolutely evident within the time frame that it has occurred. the only other rapid changes have been due to natural catastrophes like meteor strikes or cataclysmic volcanic eruptions. We have had neither of these in the time of the change, but we have had massive amounts of carbon released due to gasoline, coal and other human stupidity.
With a term like "climate change" It is true, the weather, the climate, and human belief all change. CO2 is a limiting resource for plant development. In all that human stupidity, that has allowed us the luxury of getting fat and using computers to communicate around the world, The Earth has continued to devour or CO2 outputs. We must remember that All plants evolved from systems developed with more CO2. With time the incidental demand for CO2 outpaced the earths ability to replace it, resulting in a long term, and persistent deficit of CO2. Despite all our selfish efforts, The plant life, Restricted by deadly and wide spread cold weather, continues to devour or CO2 release. Additionally, the oceans have have a enormous role in absorbing CO2 because of basic Laws of concentration flow.
What does it all mean? Time and time again "predictions" are wrong. Noble and funded scholars feel proud of their knowledge, and draw ignorant conclusions. Only to find they did not know "everything". Every single climate model is wrong, fundamentally flawed with incomplete assumptions. Any good scientist knows this and would not say otherwise. The latest grasp of knowledge moved temperature expectations back another 100 years in the future. Assuming we have any idea of what technology will be implemented 100 years from now is not more than a dreamy guess. Even more reason to question the prophets thought and motives. Ozone and sulfur are great examples of pollution problems being addressed and corrected naturally with time. Curbing CO2 emissions now and in the future will easily allow CO2 concentrations to fall. Look at seasonal changes, In one summer concentrations fall 100ppm, despite out outputs. Only recently has man made output exceeded the natural demand of available photosynthesis. One thing we Could be missing, What If other factors have large roles we are not correctly factoring. Another, what if were holding off a ice age, or are due for a upcoming ice age. Another, What will we do about our addiction to electricity. And, are real tough one, who decides who lives and dies, and how.
For me, It is troubling when teachers instill "facts" in our youth, when in reality they are still hypotheses. The attitudes that result are dangerous. It would be better is these vocal warriors would focus on facts. If you don't like pollution, complain about that. If you don't like eggs complain about that. But don't make eggs illegal because you think they raise my cholesterol, and that will kill me.
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You are from Texas. The last person I would trust to give me advice about driving in the snow, would be someone from Texas,....or Florida,....or any southern U.S. state.
The fact you think wooden tires are still in use makes my point for me. :)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :devil
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Popped back up to 53 in Vancouver WA. Eat it, everywhere else :ahand!
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Well, this morning it is 12F. Have not been above freezing the last 36 hours. Thank goodness it is dry.
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(http://www.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/realtime/cumulative.freeze.consecutive.gif)
It's been cold up here too...I've got serious problems here at the water district too...I will try to get some pics posted to our website so I can show y'all some of my frozen water leaks that just keep popping up....this is bad...real bad... :bhead
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Seeing water lines breaking here as well.
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Had snow for the 2nd time this winter here in SE Texas. Only the 2nd time in the recorded history of our county that has ever happend. People have lost their minds here. Maybe 1" of snow and 4-6 counties have shut completely down. Although the rain, then sleet then snow and then temps in the teens didn't help the roads at all.
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Awww, I feel so sorry for guys........ not. :)
Misery loves company.
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Awww, I feel so sorry for guys........ not. :)
Misery loves company.
At least you guys have the gear to deal with bad winter weather. Anything other than perfectly dry streets here is a disaster looking for a place to happen! Driving when it is like that is putting your life in the hands of some other numpty! :)
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At least you guys have the gear to deal with bad winter weather. Anything other than perfectly dry streets here is a disaster looking for a place to happen! Driving when it is like that is putting your life in the hands of some other numpty! :)
Hate to tell you but you're always putting your life in the hands of some other numpty when you're driving. ;) All it takes is for a guy to sneeze and spill his hot coffee on his lap at the wrong moment.
Wiley.
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Yes, but at least it is not compounded by that same numpty driving 80MPH on snow/ice.
I can avoid most numpties, on drive pavement. On ice/snow,..it is more difficult to avoid them.
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We have had snow probably 5 times in the close to 30 years I have lived here in Texas. They have people that have never seen snow and they think they can drive in it. Sorta like people from the desert come here and can't drive in the rain because they have never had to do it before. Hurricane Harvey I had 55" of rain in 2 days where I live think someone from the desert could handle that? Although that is a bit extreme we average 60" of rain per year.
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Well, this morning it is 12F. Have not been above freezing the last 36 hours. Thank goodness it is dry.
Was 16 at my house last night just east of Houston.
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Yes, but at least it is not compounded by that same numpty driving 80MPH on snow/ice.
I can avoid most numpties, on drive pavement. On ice/snow,..it is more difficult to avoid them.
I recently almost got a ticket. Apparently when the temperature drops below a certain level it becomes illegal to drive on that particular sidewalk.
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Wow didn't know that mesonet map would update itself...
Anyway didn't get above freezing again all day today...Houses freezing left and right....And now my customers service lines are popping and they are getting pissy with me cause I don't fix them...One more day....Come on 33 degrees :pray
Supposed to be 70 and storms Sunday :rolleyes:
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I recently almost got a ticket. Apparently when the temperature drops below a certain level it becomes illegal to drive on that particular sidewalk.
Heh.
- oldman
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If they dont like it....stay off the side walks :x
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Yes, but at least it is not compounded by that same numpty driving 80MPH on snow/ice.
I can avoid most numpties, on drive pavement. On ice/snow,..it is more difficult to avoid them.
I have seen these numbers yesterday posted along I-35/30 :pray made me nervous, took my foot off the acceleration and look for a horse and get back to Canada. It's a sad high number of deaths for 28 million people, God knows how many more are critical injured and disabled for life ; I was curious and checked the stats here, there are 1800-1900 deaths on Canadian roads/ year for 35 million inhabitants and 4-5 months/year of snow covered roads.
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Yes, we have a very high number of fatalities per miles driven. About 100 times worse than Canada's.
The single biggest reason, in my opinion, we do not actually require drivers to know much of anything before handing them a license to operate a vehicle.
Every accident I see, lately, involves someone tailgating someone. I have had people, literally, 4 feet from my back bumper at 75MPH with no way to get out from in front of them.
Also does not help no matter what freeway you drive, it is under construction. 98% of my 14 mile commute is under major construction. When it is done, it will need to be done again as the idiots in the Texas Department of Transportation only builds to suit what is currently needed and not what will be needed to carry the vehicle load.
Of course the numpties still drive 80MPH on roads under construction. I cannot remember the last time I commuted to work and did not see an accident.
Anyone driving in Texas should be terrified to get into the car. I have heard groups of people making the statement, "It is safer to drive faster than the other cars on the road. That way you do not have to worry about getting rear ended.".
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On I-10 in Texas if you are doing 75 mph you will be run over. I drive to Houston a lot and the average speed is 85-90 mph. Cops and Highway patrolman don't even patrol that much anymore. It looks like a NASCAR event with people bumper to bumper with no space in between. If you do try to leave space that just leaves room for some idiot to get over to pass. Then there are the idiots who will drive 55 mph in the fast lane and never even blink when people pass them at 80 mph in the right lane. Even I-45 north to Dallas is the same way if you are doing the speed limit you are driving to slow.
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85 and 400 through atlanta is full of people who are not clued in to the physics of cars driving at speed.
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Wet ice, what could be more slippery?
A layer of ice covered by a dusting of snow.
I grew up in a part of the country where the roads got a layer of packed snow and ice early in the winter that remained until spring. As a result I (and others in the area) got really good at winter driving.
My tips:
Don't do anything suddenly (accelerate, decelerate, turn)
Don't overdrive your tire's adhesion limits.
Concentrate 100% of the time on how your car feels on the road.
Adjust speed for the conditions (packed snow, loose snow, ice, slush, etc... each is different).
Adjust following distances for conditions.
If you do lose the back end turn into the spin (if the back end slides left turn left).
I still drive a mid engine RWD sports car year round. I'm the guy you'll see blowing by you at 65 while you're creeping along at 30-40 but sometimes not. I've never put my car in the ditch or been in an accident due to road conditions. I'm glad I got all that practice growing up.
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When braking, take into account the fact you'll need much longer to decelerate, again letting the engine dictate the spin of the wheels, this will keep them gripping.
To a degree. In really slick conditions if you're moving faster than the idle speed of the drive wheels they'll let go when you reduce throttle below that speed. It is for that reason though that as road conditions deteriorate you want to drive in the highest possible gear for your speed. I sometimes find myself in fifth gear at 40 mph with my engine at idle.
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Funny thing about driving in orlando.
Whenever you get lost, you always end up at the gate for disneyworld.
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I understand friction coefficients, physics, and chaos theory all too well to allow myself to think I could be in control of a 3500 pound bullet which depends on friction to accelerate, stop, and adjust inertia moments all the while others are around me trying to do the same thing with only varying degrees of success.
Nope. Not going to happen.
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To a degree. In really slick conditions if you're moving faster than the idle speed of the drive wheels they'll let go when you reduce throttle below that speed. It is for that reason though that as road conditions deteriorate you want to drive in the highest possible gear for your speed. I sometimes find myself in fifth gear at 40 mph with my engine at idle.
Biggest pain in the bellybutton about automatics in winter. Most are limited to 3rd gear if they even have a direct gear selection.
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Skuzzy you need to stop driving near the big cities. I grew up in Jasper and didn't see a vehicle accident till I moved to Humble. My Brother is a State Trooper here in Texas now, and he says 3 out of 5 of the accidents he works are unlicensed drivers with most being illegals.
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I live in downtown. Hard not to drive in the big city.
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That's the problem :devil
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That's the problem :devil
Yes, but the Wife can walk to work (literally 4 blocks from the house).
After me having less than 2 miles to commute for nearly 20 years, and her driving over an hour each way, we figured it was her turn for the short commute.
This happens to be the last home we will ever own. Getting too close to retirement to move again.
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I was in the colonies years ago and was amazed at the crashes at the traffic lights, everyday I saw someone rear ending someone.
The roads in the UK are about the size of Scalectrix sets :)
Don’t think straight roads help, in the UK we have roundabouts, everyone knows if you tear bellybutton on to one of these it’s good night
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They are installing roundabouts here now and they are a nightmare.
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This happens to be the last home we will ever own. Getting too close to retirement to move again.
That's what my dad thought when they bought the house when he retired. Now Dad's 81 and Mom 89 and they just moved before Christmas. Instead of buying they rent an apartment to avoid hassle when either of them dies. A wise move considering there'll be no more lawn mowing, snow shoveling, maintaining the house in proper condition...
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That's like being on the tail of the Titanic as it's sinking saying "If we're sinking, why am I 300 feet in the air?"
Weather an climate are two different things, though weather is linked to climate. The extremes we're seeing is a result of climate change. Whether you accept that or not is of no real concern to the fact.
Yea, and climate has been changing for 5.6 billion years. The question, is man altering the last 5.6 billion years. Did you know that 90% of that 5.6 billion was too warm for polar caps. That means we live in the coldest 10% of that history.
The answer for all globalist questions is always to deindustrialize the US and redistribute jobs and dollars to the rest of the world. Huh
Boo
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That's what my dad thought when they bought the house when he retired. Now Dad's 81 and Mom 89 and they just moved before Christmas. Instead of buying they rent an apartment to avoid hassle when either of them dies. A wise move considering there'll be no more lawn mowing, snow shoveling, maintaining the house in proper condition...
That is why we built a two story duplex. We rent the downstairs (small 1 bedroom/1 bath) out so it pays for taxes and maintenance. Then when one of us croaks, the remaining one will move downstairs and rent the upstairs out.
Speaking of maintenance. There is no wood on the outside of the house for termites or rot (HardiePlank). I had the house painted in a UV stabilized urethane. Should be good long past our deaths. We don't have snow to worry about. The rental pays for lawn maintenance (tax write-off as well).
We hired a property management company to handle the rental so we just collect the checks. They take care of making sure it is rented and maintained.
Barring the city invoking eminent domain (not likely as the house is in a national historic district) we should not have any issues.
We are looking at picking up a couple more duplexes in the area.