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Title: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: RODBUSTR on May 05, 2018, 11:27:04 PM
         According to the Republic Aviation Manual for said aircraft and WWII aviation expert Jeff Ethell  Never try to maneuver  The P47 Thunderbolt Below 130mph.    It has nasty stall characteristics  and sinks very fast at anything below that.  So You better be lined up on the runway before You slow to that speed.  However  according to this vid  The P47 handles well far below that speed.  Banks and even a reverse at around 100 mph  are executed. Maybe some tweaking can be done on that.    Have a Blast.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: RODBUSTR on May 05, 2018, 11:30:49 PM
    Sorry wrong video..Have blast anyway.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: JOACH1M on May 06, 2018, 04:01:37 AM
Not sure what you are trying to prove here... 

In all honestly in the last 90 of your gripe posts I felt compelled to comment on this one.
Truly I find you annoying to the bbs and the HTC Crew. This could be something emailed to them directly to get a much more respective response.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Dace on May 06, 2018, 04:34:38 AM
Not sure what you are trying to prove here... 

In all honestly in the last 90 of your gripe posts I felt compelled to comment on this one.
Truly I find you annoying to the bbs and the HTC Crew. This could be something emailed to them directly to get a much more respective response.

Super annoying.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vraciu on May 06, 2018, 10:30:55 AM
Super annoying.  :rolleyes:

+1000 (and I should know).
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vraciu on May 06, 2018, 10:34:54 AM
Not sure what you are trying to prove here... 

In all honestly in the last 90 of your gripe posts I felt compelled to comment on this one.
Truly I find you annoying to the bbs and the HTC Crew. This could be something emailed to them directly to get a much more respective response.

Yeah, I’m still trying to figure it out myself. 

Context is everything.   “Never try to maneuver...”   Define maneuver. 

Why should I “better be lined up” before I slow below that speed?   I can still turn the thing.    I’m flying in the pattern not doing ACM. 

A low, flat, power-dependent final approach is NEVER a good idea in (just about) ANY aircraft. 
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: FLS on May 06, 2018, 03:54:57 PM
Not sure what you are trying to prove here... 

In all honestly in the last 90 of your gripe posts I felt compelled to comment on this one.
Truly I find you annoying to the bbs and the HTC Crew. This could be something emailed to them directly to get a much more respective response.

I don't recall him offering evidence of anything wrong so emails wouldn't change anything.

He's welcome to post his comments. You don't have to read them if they annoy you.   :aok
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Wiley on May 07, 2018, 12:54:28 PM
Yeah, I’m still trying to figure it out myself. 

Context is everything.   “Never try to maneuver...”   Define maneuver. 

Why should I “better be lined up” before I slow below that speed?   I can still turn the thing.    I’m flying in the pattern not doing ACM. 

A low, flat, power-dependent final approach is NEVER a good idea in (just about) ANY aircraft.

It amazes me how many people seem to think if you go outside what's in the POH the plane immediately falls from the sky.  I suppose IRL that's probably a better attitude than treating it as a suggestion.

Wiley.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vraciu on May 07, 2018, 01:09:21 PM
It amazes me how many people seem to think if you go outside what's in the POH the plane immediately falls from the sky.  I suppose IRL that's probably a better attitude than treating it as a suggestion.

Wiley.

It's never a good idea to push the limits, but that being said, a little planning mitigates a lot of things--and everyone builds margin into their designs in most areas.   Stall speeds are pretty spot on of course, but, like you said, a gentle bank to final is not going to result in the stall/spin of death just because you are below 130 in that thing.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Hajo on May 21, 2018, 12:31:01 AM
For general info on the P47 the dash 1 states flaps down and landing gear (duh of course).  For P47 models B, C, D and G.
Normal approach speeds:
(a) Engine "ON" - 115 to 120mph
(b) Engine "OFF" - 120 to 130mph

Do not make sweep turns below 130 mph ias with flaps and landing gear "DOWN."

Also manual states land within the first 1/4 of runway.  Heavy aircraft requires a longer rollout.

Manual Published by the U.S. Army Air Force.

Restricted
File : B
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vraciu on May 21, 2018, 11:31:41 AM
Steep turns.   Bingo.  Normal “approach maneuvers” are clearly permitted. 
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vulcan on May 22, 2018, 12:50:47 AM
Steep turns.   Bingo.  Normal “approach maneuvers” are clearly permitted.

says 'sweep turns'.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: jimbo71 on May 24, 2018, 12:18:29 PM
 :old: I miss the rains down in Africa
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vraciu on May 24, 2018, 12:25:22 PM
says 'sweep turns'.

I'm sure it's a typo.   Otherwise I need a translator.

The point remains, you can make normal maneuvers to land at 130 without dying.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Hajo on May 25, 2018, 09:33:33 AM
It is actually a typo on my part.  It does say steep turns in the -1.  I'm reading the manual as we speak.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: JOACH1M on May 26, 2018, 01:41:13 AM
:old: I miss the rains down in Africa
is there nothing more than a 100 men or more could do?
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: lunatic1 on May 26, 2018, 04:08:03 PM
on postings like this, I was always told OP was trolling. could this be the same type of situation?
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: icepac on May 27, 2018, 09:20:25 AM
What was the published minimum altitude for a split S in a p47?
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: TequilaChaser on May 27, 2018, 09:38:31 AM
What was the published minimum altitude for a split S in a p47?

I'd like to know this too....

I can easily pull off a successful split ese in the D11 model in game at 1,100 t0 1,000 alt...

TC

BTW: this is something everyone should know about the different types of fighter models they fly, comes in handy when you are down low and being bounced by numerous bogeys....it really catches them off guard!

Just saying
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: bozon on May 28, 2018, 02:41:18 AM
I'd like to know this too....

I can easily pull off a successful split ese in the D11 model in game at 1,100 t0 1,000 alt...

TC

BTW: this is something everyone should know about the different types of fighter models they fly, comes in handy when you are down low and being bounced by numerous bogeys....it really catches them off guard!

Just saying
Highly dependent on initial speed.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: TequilaChaser on May 28, 2018, 02:55:05 AM
E management

Right

TC
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: TequilaChaser on May 28, 2018, 02:56:12 AM
It's called "do some of that pilot chit"
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Wiley on May 28, 2018, 12:50:36 PM
What was the published minimum altitude for a split S in a p47?

When they'd publish that minimum altitude, what conditions were they basing that on?  What speed, plane condition, and what G loading did they expect the pilot to sustain to survive the maneuver?  I'd be pretty confident in saying we can beat it by a significant margin in here.

Wiley.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: Vraciu on May 28, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
is there nothing more than a 100 men or more could do?

I bless the rains down in Africa..
Gonna take some time to do the things we never ha-aaaa-aaad...ooh ooh.
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: scott66 on May 31, 2018, 01:38:17 AM
How did I end up here???  :headscratch: I don't even know what a p47 thunderbolt is?? :bhead my head hurts
Title: Re: What'sYour stall speed Baby?
Post by: icepac on June 01, 2018, 04:40:24 PM

Ken Burnstine rolled into a split S at about 300mph in a mustang at around 5000 feet agl and stall/spun it trying to pull out.

Airframe was stock but it was lightened and had an anti-detonation system installed.