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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: viking73 on July 01, 2018, 11:30:30 PM
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It was dumb to impliment in the beginning years ago and cost players. The M.A.W. ended up disbanding cause so many left. But especially now when there's hardly anyone playing it just turns people to leave even more and there goes any competition so more end up leaving. Especially when you have competing games. It's useless when you have <30 players to have ENY limitations.
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A front based ENY have been discussed before, and I think that is fair.
To be the receiving end of a 1:3 odds, and enemies in uber planes is a few peoples idea of fun or fair play.
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More like it's time to have an ENY Appreciation Day! :aok
Every ENY thread is from people that want to eat their cake and still have it too. What about all the people that quit before ENY - not only getting ganged, but ganged with the best planes? Bet that number is far higher than people that can't steamroll with their precious pee51.
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rather then restrict access to any specific plane.
assign perk values to all planes. When eny kicks in you can still fly the plane you like. But it costs you perk points. Connect the perks to ENY. Thus a FW D9 would cost more perks then say an A-5
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If people leave the game because of ENY then it seems like switching to another country is seen as the worst crime ever although as this topic proves doing so makes the game more fun for others as well, because they can fly what they want too when numbers are more balanced. I heard a lot of crying about the ENY on knight country on Sunday little after the Fortress Europe event. When numbers started to drop it was something like 15 bishop vs 15 rook vs 30 knight.
One thing a squad could do is have some people switch sides to the third country and still attack the same country as before. You could use one of the open channels for communicating or some other option.
If someone is doing strategic bombing on specific targets then you could still switch to the third country and attack those same targets.
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As we’ve stated before, ENY and the sideswitch timer work against each other. People would switch for balance if they weren’t stuck on the other side for hours and suffer the ENY swing again later on their “new” country.
ENY is not going anywhere, but as currently implemented does more harm than good, IMO.
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As we’ve stated before, ENY and the sideswitch timer work against each other. People would switch for balance if they weren’t stuck n the other side for hours and suffer the ENY swing again later on their “new” country.
ENY is not going anywhere, but as currently implemented does more harm than good, IMO.
Truth.
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It was dumb to impliment in the beginning years ago and cost players. The M.A.W. ended up disbanding cause so many left. But especially now when there's hardly anyone playing it just turns people to leave even more and there goes any competition so more end up leaving. Especially when you have competing games. It's useless when you have <30 players to have ENY limitations.
The Bishops are now in game domination mode.....folks are hopping on their side to win maps and get perks for doing that. So I agree get rid of ENY and the bulk of the folks on the Nits and Rooks will just up and leave. What ever your smoking .......pass it along I would like some too.
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I do not think folks left because of ENY. The funny thing is that folks here have opposite ideas on what ENY does.
People who really like competition are most likely already in a low ENY plane fighting most of yall already.
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Don't be an E.N. whiner, learn to embrace Midwar and work in teams. ENY is to level the playing field. I guess, but Perk point unlevel it. The best players get the most points and have access to the Hi end weapons. and the poor Newbies that can barely scape enough together to get a Tempest now and then suffer. adjusting the ENy and Charging Perkpoints for more planes may not be a bad idea, but making Perkpoints more and less difficult to aquire may not be either...….. Offer Them for sale. Have a blast
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I do not think folks left because of ENY. The funny thing is that folks here have opposite ideas on what ENY does.
People who really like competition are most likely already in a low ENY plane fighting most of yall already.
It was a couple years maybe before I even realized what ENY did as that was when my main ride was the 109F when its guns were actually worth a damn.
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Don't be an E.N. whiner...
*Guffaw*
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HAVEABLAST.
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ENY, imo, is like not allowing RJO, BJO and KJO...
some like it and some don't
Ultimately, its HTC decision :aok
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People who really like competition are most likely already in a low ENY plane fighting most of yall already.
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^^^This!!!^^^
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rather then restrict access to any specific plane.
assign perk values to all planes. When eny kicks in you can still fly the plane you like. But it costs you perk points. Connect the perks to ENY. Thus a FW D9 would cost more perks then say an A-5
I think a variation of this has merit. A plane effected by ENY suddenly costing a few perkies but you can still fly the plane. I like this!
:aok
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I think a variation of this has merit. A plane effected by ENY suddenly costing a few perkies but you can still fly the plane. I like this!
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Gives more meaning to the perk system. Especially with bombers which are rarely used. and even for fighters it gives more reason to try and acquire perks.
I dont use perks a lot. As a result I probably have enough perk points which at this point are in the thousands to fly nothing but 262s for an entire tour.
More with the reduced frequency that Ive been flying lately
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rather then restrict access to any specific plane.
assign perk values to all planes. When eny kicks in you can still fly the plane you like. But it costs you perk points. Connect the perks to ENY. Thus a FW D9 would cost more perks then say an A-5
I really like this idea the best.
We do need more things to spend perks on
It would keep people flying instead of logging off.
Not every one wants to switch teams.
The time change rules practically discourage it.
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I liked how the zone limits worked in AW as opposed to the ENY in here but then ENY never effects me as I always have a plane I can fly.
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I really like this idea the best.
We do need more things to spend perks on
It would keep people flying instead of logging off.
Not every one wants to switch teams.
The time change rules practically discourage it.
The trouble with spending perks to get out of ENY restrictions is the same as with the perk system generally, but worse: it gives the sweet rides to the players who need them the least, and keeps them out of the hands of the players who need them most.
ENY + 12 hour side switch is awful. It kills the game late night. You switch but because there are only 30 people on in another hour you're back to a 29 ENY, and now you're stuck with it all night. And half the time your ENY is only high because half your side is afk for the rest of the night - you can easily have the lowest number of actual active players but a high ENY.
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When I go to the MA, every time, there is a 90% chance that bishops will have as many players as both other sides combined. There is no ENY problem, except that it's not doing what it's intended to. Isn't it still automatic that new players are put on the bishop side? That should stop.
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I liked how the zone limits worked in AW as opposed to the ENY in here but then ENY never effects me as I always have a plane I can fly.
In total agreement here. Albeit in AW I believe it was due to technological limits if remember correctly. However unintentional it was all around the best system yet. And it spread the fight over a wider area as well as better represented that one air base cannot support an unlimited number of planes at one time.
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18 players in game. ENY in effect. Stupid
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The trouble with spending perks to get out of ENY restrictions is the same as with the perk system generally, but worse: it gives the sweet rides to the players who need them the least, and keeps them out of the hands of the players who need them most.
ENY + 12 hour side switch is awful. It kills the game late night. You switch but because there are only 30 people on in another hour you're back to a 29 ENY, and now you're stuck with it all night. And half the time your ENY is only high because half your side is afk for the rest of the night - you can easily have the lowest number of actual active players but a high ENY.
The switch time is 6 hours, which is still 5 hours too long. HTC fixed something that was not broken and as was said earlier, ENY and the side switch timer work against each other.
Getting rid of ENY would be worse than it is now. Imagine if you could fly Tempests and such all the time and you wanted to win the war all the time (you paid your $15, you should be able to fly what you want!) - most people would gravitate to a single country, as there would be no downside to doing so.
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18 players in game. ENY in effect. Stupid
This is the rub right here.
When I log on to a deserted map and get hit with ENY I log off. I don’t mind flying other planes, but when I’ve been away for a few days I want a few reps in my Mustang first. It’s depressing/annoying.
I would not even turn ENY on until at least 75 players are in the arena (or something like that).
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The switch time is 6 hours, which is still 5 hours too long. HTC fixed something that was not broken and as was said earlier, ENY and the side switch timer work against each other.
Getting rid of ENY would be worse than it is now. Imagine if you could fly Tempests and such all the time and you wanted to win the war all the time (you paid your $15, you should be able to fly what you want!) - most people would gravitate to a single country, as there would be no downside to doing so.
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Sure! Let's get rid of ENY, so that all the bish can fly the low ENY planes, and let's get rid of the time limit on side changes so that the bish can go to the other sides, see what is going on, where the sneak attacks are, and where the CVs are. SURE!!! The bish should have 3 times the numbers everyone else has combined, should fly any uber planes they want and switch sides to spy all the time. I'm sure that would up the numbers...Hell I'm going to stop anyway, tired of fighting 50 bish to 1 knight...and yes that may be an exaggeration, but not by much.
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Let's just get rid of The Bish....Bish are POO!
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I mostly GV and I use the M-8 ALLOT. I die more than I live, but the perks just keep pouring in whether I kill a Panzer H, shoot down a radar, get some autoguns, or just simply pick on poor Scotty. :D :D I have enough perks to Use Tiger II's every night for at least a month, but there is no challenge to using an awesome tank like that. Killing Tiger I's, Panther G's, T-34/85's is a challenge with the M-8. I often die trying to get one because one shot and I'm in the tower. But when I do get one.....high fives all around. :neener:
ENY is never a factor if you use a non perked ride, stick with that ride and learn it. Same for planes. Get good in a mid war plane and you can take on just about anyone under the right conditions (alt advantage attacking from the sun) and crank out the perk points so you can take out those expensive rides when ya feel like it. Read Boelcke's Dicta. You can also get some of those achievements. The C-2 is a fun plane. Leather seats too.
Sometimes the T-34/85 is not available because my country has way way more players than the others, so I go right to the M-8. Killing two Wirbs or two planes on the runway is an easy 10 perk pts regardless of the ENY at the time. :confused:
Once in awhile in the evening I do not see any GV fights........so I start de ackin'g a v base.........they come out looking for that M-8 and before long there are lots of gv's from both sides having a fun battle. :aok
ENY never stops me from having fun.
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Someone take note of the whine and pass a kleenex. I do not understand what is so hard for you to understand, :headscratch: when Bish out number the other two sides the other two chess pieces quit fighting each other and double up on Bish, happens all the time. So if Bish have 35 players on and nits have 18 players and rooks have 20 players it is in reality 38 to 35. Plus Bish have the eny to contend with while being double teamed. So here is your kleenex.
Sure! Let's get rid of ENY, so that all the bish can fly the low ENY planes, and let's get rid of the time limit on side changes so that the bish can go to the other sides, see what is going on, where the sneak attacks are, and where the CVs are. SURE!!! The bish should have 3 times the numbers everyone else has combined, should fly any uber planes they want and switch sides to spy all the time. I'm sure that would up the numbers...Hell I'm going to stop anyway, tired of fighting 50 bish to 1 knight...and yes that may be an exaggeration, but not by much.
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Someone take note of the whine and pass a kleenex. I do not understand what is so hard for you to understand, :headscratch: when Bish out number the other two sides the other two chess pieces quit fighting each other and double up on Bish, happens all the time. So if Bish have 35 players on and nits have 18 players and rooks have 20 players it is in reality 38 to 35. Plus Bish have the eny to contend with while being double teamed. So here is your kleenex.
Proximity Rule Violation, Deduct 25 Points.
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rather then restrict access to any specific plane.
assign perk values to all planes. When eny kicks in you can still fly the plane you like. But it costs you perk points. Connect the perks to ENY. Thus a FW D9 would cost more perks then say an A-5
I always liked this ideal.... And it would give us a reason to have these perks points.
CAV
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We also need a system to keep tower plowers out of the tower. It sucks when you have 25 players logged in but 11 actually there and flying. Is it really worth 25 Perkins to be logged on all day or night trying to farm perks.
My idea for that is if you played for a set time for that map and the map is won by the team you are on you should be awarded the win perks. Maybe this would help keep tower sitters down and also award guys that put in work for the map but not on at the win.
I also like the idea of still getting my ride for a few perks during Eny times. The side switch thing sucks. I swapped to the nits this am about 10am. By 1pm we had 20 eny and was still stuck there for three hours.
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It was dumb to impliment in the beginning years ago and cost players. The M.A.W. ended up disbanding cause so many left. But especially now when there's hardly anyone playing it just turns people to leave even more and there goes any competition so more end up leaving. Especially when you have competing games. It's useless when you have <30 players to have ENY limitations.
I would love to see an honest answer as to "why" ENY is an issue to you. We have seen hundreds of threads complaining about ENY, but not a single one as to "why".
Do you honestly have an issue of not being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team? Remember, this IS a game and so they do TRY to keep things on the "even" or "fair" side.
Answer the question, Why is ENY so horrible?
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Isn't it still automatic that new players are put on the bishop side? That should stop.
I think new players are asigned to bish with the assumption that players will change because it's the least attractive piece. I mean you have a castle which is pretty cool, then you have a violent horse which is clearly awesome, then you have something resembling a but plug that is supposed to represent a pacifist seventy year old virgin.
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I think new players are asigned to bish with the assumption that players will change because it's the least attractive piece. I mean you have a castle which is pretty cool, then you have a violent horse which is clearly awesome, then you have something resembling a but plug that is supposed to represent a pacifist seventy year old virgin.
:x :banana: :rock :salute
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The only reason I can find for many players is that they have a favorite ride, and that ride is either ENY 5, or perked.
I have been ENY'ed flying my ENY 20-30 planes twice these last 8 years...
I would love to see an honest answer as to "why" ENY is an issue to you. We have seen hundreds of threads complaining about ENY, but not a single one as to "why".
Do you honestly have an issue of not being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team? Remember, this IS a game and so they do TRY to keep things on the "even" or "fair" side.
Answer the question, Why is ENY so horrible?
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How about you still get to fly your plane when ENY kicks in... you just lose your ammo :) problem solved!
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Why all the animosity towards the BISH? Never did understand where that was coming from :confused: OK,back on topic. :neener: I agree with FLIPPZ....if there was a system in place to boot folk who are camping the hanger, MOST IF NOT ALL eny issues would vanish for all pieces. Dont see how it could even be a problem. At least no issue IF it was like an hour or so of no flight and booted. Of coarse there is an issue with this....take CYBRO for example. He parks in an plane or gv, which means he is registered as IN flight :furious I am afraid that this would lead to the habitual tower campers to just do the same thing. That being said, for all the Chess Piece Loyalty that is shown by most...its hard to understand why those folk would sit in tower all the while inhibiting the Piece they swear loyalty too :bhead
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Chess Piece Loyalty come with flying as a team within a squad.
Even though some people like AH to be 1vs1 all the time for one reason or another, others prefer to fight together, your mileage may vary.
We have been moving between Rook and Knights but lately LD have been stuck in Rook camp because of numbers in general over time, 13 time zones ( Alaska to Middle East) between us.
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Chess Piece Loyalty come with flying as a team within a squad.
Even though some people like AH to be 1vs1 all the time for one reason or another, others prefer to fight together, your mileage may vary.
We have been moving between Rook and Knights but lately LD have been stuck in Rook camp because of numbers in general over time, 13 time zones ( Alaska to Middle East) between us.
Absolutely :aok I have a few Squad Mates that hate switching sides. So to stay with my guys, I have to accommodate there opinions. Adjustments to time change would fix this issue with multiple time zones. Would suck swapping and 2 hours later a squadie logs in, So I fully understand that. What my issue is..even those that are like my Squadies and hate changing...sitting in tower instead of logging off hurts your squad as well as every one else. Thus my saying, for all the chess piece loyalty professed....seems hard to get why they dont log? How hard is it relog...we do it all the time(have to sign in to participate) :O
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Answer the question, Why is ENY so horrible?
The answer I've seen/heard a couple thousand times is: "High ENY #'s means I can't fly my (insert low ENY ride here) "
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ENY is simply too strict for the numbers we normally have. Focus on what the OP is saying, people.
I’ve said this for years that the ramping is too steep. When you have 20 players on there’s no need for ENY.
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I think the underlying problem is that people don´t like to loose fights. Some less so than others. Flying mid or even early war planes means more loosing - people don´t like that. Is not that the P51D is so pretty and shiny, its that its very deadly - and that you are not likely to loose in it.
Other games have gone through some changes to make "dying" less painful for a player. This seems to be a necessity with online PvP games - for every kill you need a victim. One happy player, one sad player.
Look at Battlefield versions through the years. It used to be that you had to respawn WAYYY in the back of the battlefield (like we do now in AH) - so getting killed was very frustrating. Nowadays you can spawn back into the middle of the fight. Now while this makes it less frustrating to die, it also makes it less satisfying to kill.
Getting steamrolled by overwhelming numbers is HUGELY frustrating - and people will log in frustration. Not everyone has the german mindset of fighting a clearly lost battle for YEARS with tenacity.
Steamrolling others is MILDLY fun. To balance things (HUGELY vs MILDLY) out, we need to give the side some boost that gets steamrolled. Otherwise there will be no one to steamroll. I am open for ideas, but eventually it will boil down to make things harder for the steamrollers, which they will not like -> hence the ENY debate.
Jan
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I think the underlying problem is that people don´t like to loose fights. Some less so than others. Flying mid or even early war planes means more loosing - people don´t like that. Is not that the P51D is so pretty and shiny, its that its very deadly - and that you are not likely to loose in it.
Nonsense. Most people can't fly the P-51 to save their lives. I'm barely even beginning to figure the thing out after six years of trying. Getting killed is part of the process.
When you log on to an empty arena after being away for three weeks it is a real nut crusher to be ENY'd out of a ride you've been looking forward to flying.
ENY has its place, but as the game has evolved...ENY has NOT. "Well we've always done it this way..." is not an answer.
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The only reason I can find for many players is that they have a favorite ride, and that ride is either ENY 5, or perked.
I have been ENY'ed flying my ENY 20-30 planes twice these last 8 years...
<- Never been ENYed. :D
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The very existance of this thread says eny is working.
If people can't figure out how to have fun in a plane that isn't a run-stang D or a Spitrunner XVI they are playing the game wrong.
I can't remember the last time I flew a 5 eny plane and I have more fun in AH3 than most.
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The very existance of this thread says eny is working.
If people can't figure out how to have fun in a plane that isn't a run-stang D or a Spitrunner XVI they are playing the game wrong.
I can't remember the last time I flew a 5 eny plane and I have more fun in AH3 than most.
At making people logoff. :aok
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At making people logoff. :aok
Per Hitech, that's the lesser of 2 evils between that and the high number side having low ENY vehicles. It is literally working as intended.
The other edge of the sword is, how many people log off when the high number side is flying low ENY aircraft? But nobody talks about that.
Wiley.
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Per Hitech, that's the lesser of 2 evils between that and the high number side having low ENY vehicles. It is literally working as intended.
The other edge of the sword is, how many people log off when the high number side is flying low ENY aircraft? But nobody talks about that.
Wiley.
When you had 450 players I would agree. With thirty not so much. You have a system that creates side balancing (sorta) at the expense of numbers. If that's your definition of an optimal system so be it. I disagree.
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When you had 450 players I would agree. With thirty not so much. You have a system that creates side balancing (sorta) at the expense of numbers. If that's your definition of an optimal system so be it. I disagree.
Never said I agreed with it either, just saying that's the rationale.
Wiley.
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Never said I agreed with it either, just saying that's the rationale.
Wiley.
No offense, but this is the tenth time you’ve explained the rationale to me. I’ve even quoted Hitech myself three times in these threads. I’m aware of the reasons given. I’m also aware it won’t change and he’s probably sick of hearing about it.
Thankfully I have skinning to occupy my time when ENY is around. One less target to shoot at though...
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Never been ENYed.
Me either.
We must be doing something wrong.
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The 190D needs to be fixed. No reason it should be so high when it has 1000 more kills on average than a P47M with the same average K/D of 1.5, which is high for a non perked plane. The P51 doesn't even come close to the other K/D's when it comes to other top ENY planes at a 1.2. the G14 and P38 both even have better average K/D's. The P51 is great but only if you have the patients to get alt and not get ganged when you dive.
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There is nothing wrong with the FW 190D that needs to be fixed or perked.
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The 190D needs to be fixed. No reason it should be so high when it has 1000 more kills on average than a P47M with the same average K/D of 1.5, which is high for a non perked plane. The P51 doesn't even come close to the other K/D's when it comes to other top ENY planes at a 1.2. the G14 and P38 both even have better average K/D's. The P51 is great but only if you have the patients to get alt and not get ganged when you dive.
Nobody is sure of the exact formula Hitech uses/uesd to figure out the ENY values, but we are ALL positive it isnt by K/D alone.
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Any "press X" plane, with 500 cannons.... Should be 5-10 eny range. 190Ds are more successful in the MA than P51s. If the eny blocks the P51D and P47M. Why should it not block a plane with better performance, ammo, and results?
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Agreed, needs to be adjusted.
A5 is more fun to fly anyway :)
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The bottom line is wheather you like or dislike ENY it is costing HTC players and that is the sad reality of ENY. It is Dales game and he runs it as he sees fit and ENY is never going to change same as he is never going to remove the silly little GV dar. The solution to help ENY as others have mentioned it to have a player auto logged off after a length of inactive time.
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Nonsense. Most people can't fly the P-51 to save their lives. I'm barely even beginning to figure the thing out after six years of trying. Getting killed is part of the process.
When you log on to an empty arena after being away for three weeks it is a real nut crusher to be ENY'd out of a ride you've been looking forward to flying.
ENY has its place, but as the game has evolved...ENY has NOT. "Well we've always done it this way..." is not an answer.
IF you fly a P51D you can pretty much be untouchable if you, like some pilots here do in Main Arena, fly it as a 20k boom-zoomer.
If you dogfight in it, it's a different ballgame, and other planes not only out-turn you, but also have other parameters going for them.
Game has evolved due to new planes, and lower numbers, flying as a team in La-7's, P51D, 190Doras, give you an edge that is hard to beat if you don't make mistakes.
Even older planes flown as a team can be deadly.
I still have a vivid memory of me and Trogdor fighting a large bunch of Knights a years ago, flying A5's, both surviving, and landed what remained of our shaken but not stirred coffins.
Other times our team get shot down to the last plane, due to tactical, and strategic mistakes, and sometimes overwhelming numbers, or flown by capable experts (or both) . I don't mind getting shot down as long as I have fun doing it and I get a bit of adrenaline rush.
But to be map-rolled by ENY 5 and perked planes outnumbered 1:3 or worse, don't give me anything of a fair chance regardless of the birds I can fly, or the birds I normally fly (A8, A5, 109G).
Someone stated online "2:1 makes anyone look good" and its true to a large extent, if you on-top of that fly uber-rides it does not make it any better for the adversary's.
My team have successfully defended a field heavily outnumbered, just to see 3 other of our fields get captured just because of numbers, if you add enemy ENY 5 planes to the soup, you just make it even worse.
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IF you fly a P51D you can pretty much be untouchable if you, like some pilots here do in Main Arena, fly it as a 20k boom-zoomer.
If you dogfight in it, it's a different ballgame, and other planes not only out-turn you, but also have other parameters going for them.
Game has evolved due to new planes, and lower numbers, flying as a team in La-7's, P51D, 190Doras, give you an edge that is hard to beat if you don't make mistakes.
Even older planes flown as a team can be deadly.
I still have a vivid memory of me and Trogdor fighting a large bunch of Knights a years ago, flying A5's, both surviving, and landed what remained of our shaken but not stirred coffins.
Other times our team get shot down to the last plane, due to tactical, and strategic mistakes, and sometimes overwhelming numbers, or flown by capable experts (or both) . I don't mind getting shot down as long as I have fun doing it and I get a bit of adrenaline rush.
But to be map-rolled by ENY 5 and perked planes outnumbered 1:3 or worse, don't give me anything of a fair chance regardless of the birds I can fly, or the birds I normally fly (A8, A5, 109G).
Someone stated online "2:1 makes anyone look good" and its true to a large extent, if you on-top of that fly uber-rides it does not make it any better for the adversary's.
My team have successfully defended a field heavily outnumbered, just to see 3 other of our fields get captured just because of numbers, if you add enemy ENY 5 planes to the soup, you just make it even worse.
Being untouchable is a far cry from being effective.
Most Mustang pilots can approach the former but not the latter.
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The trouble with spending perks to get out of ENY restrictions is the same as with the perk system generally, but worse: it gives the sweet rides to the players who need them the least, and keeps them out of the hands of the players who need them most.
ENY + 12 hour side switch is awful. It kills the game late night. You switch but because there are only 30 people on in another hour you're back to a 29 ENY, and now you're stuck with it all night. And half the time your ENY is only high because half your side is afk for the rest of the night - you can easily have the lowest number of actual active players but a high ENY.
the switch time is 6 hours not 12
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When I go to the MA, every time, there is a 90% chance that bishops will have as many players as both other sides combined. There is no ENY problem, except that it's not doing what it's intended to. Isn't it still automatic that new players are put on the bishop side? That should stop.
new players go to the side with the least amount of players-they can switch afterward.
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This is the rub right here.
When I log on to a deserted map and get hit with ENY I log off. I don’t mind flying other planes, but when I’ve been away for a few days I want a few reps in my Mustang first. It’s depressing/annoying.
I would not even turn ENY on until at least 75 players are in the arena (or something like that).
with 50 of those players being bish and 25 players being divided by rooks and Knights
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with 50 of those players being bish and 25 players being divided by rooks and Knights
Big deal. That's better than having 30 players online with the Bish being TOTALLY outnumbered by the other two countries and still having a 7.3+ ENY. I logged out* and went to work on skins instead of dealing with that (or switching countries to get stuck for four hours when ENY swings again later).
This system is broken. It needs tweaking. I don't have the magic formula, but I can tell you this isn't it.
I'm going to retire from this discussion. We've hashed this to death and all it does is tick people off, esp. Hitech.
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*Just doing my part to balance the sides.
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Nonsense. Most people can't fly the P-51 to save their lives. I'm barely even beginning to figure the thing out after six years of trying. Getting killed is part of the process.
When you log on to an empty arena after being away for three weeks it is a real nut crusher to be ENY'd out of a ride you've been looking forward to flying.
ENY has its place, but as the game has evolved...ENY has NOT. "Well we've always done it this way..." is not an answer.
then change sides
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then change sides
Why? So I can get stuck on the screwed up ENY side 40 minutes later? (I have already tried the changing sides "solution". Please keep up with the thread.)
I'll just logout instead and you can play in an empty arena. Good luck with that. :aok
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(Let's just drop it. We've beaten this into the ground and it's only going to make people angry.)
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Why? So I can get stuck on the screwed up ENY side 40 minutes later? (I have already tried the changing sides "solution". Please keep up with the thread.)
I'll just logout instead and you can play in an empty arena. Good luck with that. :aok
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(Let's just drop it. We've beaten this into the ground and it's only going to make people angry.)
so you just log off because you can fly your favorite ride--that's just silly..
anyone can check my score/rides in all the last tours and see all the diff planes I fly-true my main rides are the spits for air T34-85 for ground. but at least I don't just log off because I can't fly a spit or a pony..
not long ago I survived a 2v1 fight for approx. 10 minutes with 2 F4U1-a's I was in a 109-F4-not because of eny but because I wanted to fly it-I lost of course but I had fun and was proud od what I did.
this game wasn't made to fly 1 plane or 1 tank, it was made to have fun. I do have more luck flying older planes then I do driving older thanks vs newer tanks but still doesn't stop me from playing.
if I logged off every time I couldn't fly my fav plane or drive my fav tank I would not play much.
logging off because you can't fly a P51 is your right but I think it is just silly.
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so you just log off because you can fly your favorite ride--that's just silly..
anyone can check my score/rides in all the last tours and see all the diff planes I fly-true my main rides are the spits for air T34-85 for ground. but at least I don't just log off because I can't fly a spit or a pony..
not long ago I survived a 2v1 fight for approx. 10 minutes with 2 F4U1-a's I was in a 109-F4-not because of eny but because I wanted to fly it-I lost of course but I had fun and was proud od what I did.
this game wasn't made to fly 1 plane or 1 tank, it was made to have fun. I do have more luck flying older planes then I do driving older thanks vs newer tanks but still doesn't stop me from playing.
if I logged off every time I couldn't fly my fav plane or drive my fav tank I would not play much.
logging off because you can't fly a P51 is your right but I think it is just silly.
What's counterproductive (you would say silly) is ENY with only 30 players online--with two smaller countries ganging on the larger one in superior numbers to boot) Having a system that works against itself is also harmful to encouraging people to play. I don't have the ideal solution, but I am certain something to improve the situation could be found.
Thank you for explaining to me how playing the game the way I would like after a month off is silly. Thank you for telling me how I should play the game--I had no idea what I was doing wrong. I didn't realize I was supposed to have fun. Silly me (pun intended).
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the only thing I have against tower sitters it does slightly effect eny. 1 of our bases are being attacked and some players are in the tower at that field doing nothing to defend it and we lose it. to me people sitting in the tower when that base is being attacked is akin to helping the enemy take that base. sure people pay to play their way. but if your just going to sit in the tower and do nothing you might as well just log off.
lol 1 of the main reason's knights complain about having eny is unlike bish and rooks, Knights don't or won't work together. only real time we do is when they can see it's possible we may win a map then they start working together. but not all together. at any givin time you will see 10 more or less doing their own thing.
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What's counterproductive (you would say silly) is ENY with only 30 players online--with two smaller countries ganging on the larger one in superior numbers to boot) Having a system that works against itself is also harmful to encouraging people to play. I don't have the ideal solution, but I am certain something to improve the situation could be found.
Thank you for explaining to me how playing the game the way I would like after a month off is silly. Thank you for telling me how I should play the game--I had no idea what I was doing wrong. I didn't realize I was supposed to have fun. Silly me (pun intended).
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it works its way around 1 day bish rook v nits-next day nit rooks v bish occasionally nits bish v rooks more often then not its bish/rooks v knights, and I will tell you why-KNIGHTS ARE THE BEST AND FUN COUNTRY TO FIGHT and you know it. last week on the Mindnao map I got pizzed at Knights and switched to rooks and I fought against the knights, was the most fun iv'e had in a long time.
most of the time when only 30 people on is between 2 and 5 am central time. not like the old days when you would still have at the least 200 souls on.
but hold--the underlying problem is still the lack of players. even in prime time..
it has been said here that people quit because of eny-maybe a few. but in actuality all the changes to the game when AH3 came out and computers had to be upgraded-and to be fare was said plenty of notice was given that that fact was a possibility-so people quit because they didn't want to spend the money-map changes and redesigned too many trees-trees with 1/4 inch branches stopping a 30 ton tank(fixed) sound changes-can't tell where the shot is coming from(I know a player who quit just because of that)they took out so much of the items in the landscape that had to make up for it with trees.
2 years before AH3 came out people were complaining about AH2 maps, no changes to the maps, or anything else. its eaiser now to white flag a town then it was in AH2. I can wf a town with B24s I seen it done with B26's.
bomb****s cried because they couldn't see the gv's so gv radar appears. still can't see the gv unless it's moving, but shows you what section its in. it seems the majority rules in Aces High-bomber pilots cried and whined that the mountains on the Trinity map esp at V135 so instead of lowering the mountains they dropped the map( is a rumor ) that I heard more then once. AH3 is a different game compared to AH2. AH2 maps were extremely fun maps even FesterMA.
we still have never heard the official reason for HTC taking out the Trinity Map-probably THE MOST FUN and popular map of all time-next to the Compello V85-V88 map. But that is and this is his game-wait its ours also-to play that is.
I know HiTech and Skuzzy are very busy but it would be nice if they either one could take 30minutes or an hour once a week or every 2 weeks to come in game and talk to his PAYING customers. I've never met HiTech and Skuzzy, but I am a fan.(no smart remarks needed here)
when I get started I go all over the place sorry for hijacking.
eny is what it is. but no matter what is done if anything to the eny, the side switch time or whatever whine that comes up, there will always be somebody that will not like the change and complain about it, sure there are other games out there to play. they may have prettier graphics, they may even be free to play, but you get what you don't pay for. Aces High is harder to play then any game/flight sim out there except maybe DCS. even though sometimes you can't tell it by 200 channel people are nicer and friendlier here.
some people say they can't find a fight-well then they ain't looking very hard--fly to an enemy base you will find it, ask Xbrit. he flies to enemy bases all the time over and over.
was on 200 hrs last tour.
log on play the game. YES its a game. don't take it seriously and you can have fun-yes I gripe and complain about vulchers and pickers but it happened in real life, so I live with it. hoeing happened in real life as well quit complaining about it. I'm done here. Salute to all my AH comrades on all sides, and yes even you Vraciu.
oh by the way Vraciu shouldn't you be out flying that beautiful jet some where. what kind was it I lost that info sometime-it sure is pretty :salute
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the only thing I have against tower sitters it does slightly effect eny. 1 of our bases are being attacked and some players are in the tower at that field doing nothing to defend it and we lose it. to me people sitting in the tower when that base is being attacked is akin to helping the enemy take that base. sure people pay to play their way. but if your just going to sit in the tower and do nothing you might as well just log off.
lol 1 of the main reason's knights complain about having eny is unlike bish and rooks, Knights don't or won't work together. only real time we do is when they can see it's possible we may win a map then they start working together. but not all together. at any givin time you will see 10 more or less doing their own thing.
You think Nits don't work together? Try being a Rook. After the demise of SFOX's squadron we can hardly take a base at all.
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You think Nits don't work together? Try being a Rook. After the demise of SFOX's squadron we can hardly take a base at all.
2 reasons for that-in my opinion of course-lack of people and bish and nits hitting rooks at the same time when rooks are not helping the bish. hehe
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I know HiTech and Skuzzy are very busy but it would be nice if they either one could take 30minutes or an hour once a week or every 2 weeks to come in game and talk to his PAYING customers. I've never met HiTech and Skuzzy, but I am a fan.(no smart remarks needed here)
This past month I traveled down to Texas to attend the former 49Sharks wedding, I was not far from the Dallas/Ft.Worth area so I decided to take a side trip to Keller TX where HiTech is based. I was able to talk with Both Skuzzy and Dale for almost an hour. I was interested in seeing the "Pipe" that brought the internet traffic in and out of HiTech, having worked for Ma Bell for 42 years I was curious as to what system they were using... I can report it is big enough to handle what ever traffic they have. Dale was kind enough to set me down at his desk and use his VR set up and what that was all about and how the 3D works in the game. I was also shown the cabinet which holds his Cragganmore 12 Year Old Scotch given to him by players wanting special favors, I can report I came empty handed. I was also shown some of the things that were in the process of being developed with the promise I would not reveal what I saw, and I have kept that promise, like I did when I was at a customers facility and saw things other would want to know about. The staff at HiTech were cordial and made my impromptu visit enjoyable.
The game as to how it's played, problems, rants or other things along that line were never discussed....I wanted the visit to end on a good note. They were very nice people
https://www.flickr.com/photos/9098213@N02/42503928744/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/9098213@N02/42503928744/in/dateposted-public/)
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then change sides
I love that response.
Why so there can be a bigger horde attacking the bish. I switched to the knights Tuesday am and at 3 fields i could not get a single knight to bring troops after I wf and deacked it. Every knight that was on was attacking the bish along with every rook. You were on lunatic when it happened. What’s the point of swapping countries to “help” eny? So the swap thing don’t work unless you are interested in just hording one country. And the whines of the bish are hording the map is fruitless. As said before bish are fighting both front while the others are able to dedicate to taking/defending a base. And normally with +10 eny. If one country is able to horde both at any given time no matter what the eny maybe y’all should look at with in.
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This past month I traveled down to Texas to attend the former 49Sharks wedding, I was not far from the Dallas/Ft.Worth area so I decided to take a side trip to Keller TX where HiTech is based. I was able to talk with Both Skuzzy and Dale for almost an hour. I was interested in seeing the "Pipe" that brought the internet traffic in and out of HiTech, having worked for Ma Bell for 42 years I was curious as to what system they were using... I can report it is big enough to handle what ever traffic they have. Dale was kind enough to set me down at his desk and use his VR set up and what that was all about and how the 3D works in the game. I was also shown the cabinet which holds his Cragganmore 12 Year Old Scotch given to him by players wanting special favors, I can report I came empty handed. I was also shown some of the things that were in the process of being developed with the promise I would not reveal what I saw, and I have kept that promise, like I did when I was at a customers facility and saw things other would want to know about. The staff at HiTech were cordial and made my impromptu visit enjoyable.
The game as to how it's played, problems, rants or other things along that line were never discussed....I wanted the visit to end on a good note. They were very nice people
HTC always rolls out the welcome wagon for visiting players. I would encourage anyone near the Dallas metroplex to call ahead and arrange a visit.
Glad to hear there are some new developments down the road. Hopefully Hitech will give us some sneak peaks in the near future.
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HTC always rolls out the welcome wagon for visiting players. I would encourage anyone near the Dallas metroplex to call ahead and arrange a visit.
Glad to hear there are some new developments down the road. Hopefully Hitech will give us some sneak peaks in the near future.
Yep. They're gracious as hell even to players who are sometimes a PITA. :banana:
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I dont know, I think Id be pretty nervous if I ever got the chance to visit them. :confused:
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I dont know, I think Id be pretty nervous if I ever got the chance to visit them. :confused:
can what you say at the office get you muted in game?????? :confused:
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I would love to see an honest answer as to "why" ENY is an issue to you. We have seen hundreds of threads complaining about ENY, but not a single one as to "why".
Do you honestly have an issue of not being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team? Remember, this IS a game and so they do TRY to keep things on the "even" or "fair" side.
Answer the question, Why is ENY so horrible?
If ENY actually reflected the numerical odds people are facing it might be useful. But as long as we have the current setup that will never happen. For whatever reason most of the time it seems 2 of the countries gang up against the 3rd and one front is completely quiet. (Yes, this happens to every side with equal frequency but that doesn't make it any less annoying when it happens to your side.) And then there are all the people in the tower that are AFK for hours at a stretch. The result is you can be facing 3-2 or even 2-1 odds in all your fights AND be restricted to midwar planes. One 190-A5 in a big and more or less evenly matched furball can be fun to fly; one 190-A5 against a bunch of La-7s, 109-K4s, and Spit16s that come in with a huge alt advantage is just suicide. It also robs you of the ability to use CVs to attack because the only plane that can carry a meaningful ord load is the TBM, and a TBM against superior numbers of late war fighters is even MORE suicidal. There's no point in trying and no fun in the attempt.
And 12 hours or 6, the long side switch time works completely at cross purposes with ENY. 6 hours is still longer than most people spend online at a time. It means your side switch is for the rest of the evening even if ENY goes the other way. This happened to me just the other night, I switched from bish to rooks and 2 hours later the rooks had a 20 or so ENY and I was stuck there. It discourages people from switching at the same time ENY is supposed to be encouraging people to switch for balance.
As I said before this is mostly a problem late night. Late night is already a problem with no one doing anything but trying to sneak unopposed bases, which is not all that hard when there are three times as many bases as players. And half the people are in GVs which are completely invisible and just hide when any enemy is around and wait for the opponent to get bored hunting for hay-colored needles in the haystack and go somewhere else. The game is getting close to unplayable late at night. ENY is only a small part of that but still, it is part of the problem, not the solution.
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can what you say at the office get you muted in game?????? :confused:
No, but if they like you it can get you unmuted. :rofl
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can what you say at the office get you muted in game?????? :confused:
Wear a shirt that says "muted", walk in and just move your mouth.
:rofl
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I would love to see an honest answer as to "why" ENY is an issue to you. We have seen hundreds of threads complaining about ENY, but not a single one as to "why".
Do you honestly have an issue of not being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team? Remember, this IS a game and so they do TRY to keep things on the "even" or "fair" side.
ENY doesnt matter a whole lot to me because I know I can collect my fair share of kills in just about any ride However. I do see how ENY as it is currently implemented can be a problem.
The problem is in part of your answer "being able to use an uber plane against an under manned team?" This quote isnt always accurate.
Ive seen ENY implemented against a side that was being dominated by the other two. whereas the side that has ENY implemented on may have numbers larger then either of the other two countries it still has far less numbers then both countries combined. And if those two countries gang up on the larger company. Then the side with the ENY effect is put at an even greater disadvantage.
I've always favored an AW zone (for lack of a better description) style approach such as AKAK mentioned above all. Second would be the perk system. Particularly when it comes to bombers as few people even bother to use their bomber perks. This would discourage the use of uber perk consuming rides but not outright ban them. and if you dont have the perks. Well.. it sucks to be you because perks really aren't all that hard to farm. The problem is what you use up your perks on. 262's are sweet rides but the bulk of general population probably kills themselves in them more often then they kill other people as it does require at least a small degree of advanced skill to have any real success with them
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This am was a great example of that. Bush totaled 24 players and nits and rooks had 38 combined. I was on for almost two hours and not a single base on the nit rook front flashed. Yet the bish had a 13.9 eny. I watched about 8 bases get rolled as streams of lancs 47m 190d 51d and temps rolled in over the tops of the bases. Not a lot we can do in that manner.
People often complain about what I fly because they choose to fly an early to mid war plane. What they don’t see is the other 90% of there country is flying what I am in. Or the fact that there are very very (maybe count on one hand) few people left in the game that will 1v1 in an open field of contact so they usually leaves me to engaging multiple contacts.
And I still for the life of me can’t wrap my head around the three country system. From my observation it’s an old system that worked when you guys had 600 players. We now have a fifth of that at prime during the week and a third on a Friday night. I have asked this many times and never gotten a straight answer as to why/how this is suppose to work. And “this is how it’s always been” is not a good answer. I own a small business and have had to change my business model three times in 6 years. If I still tried to run it as I did 6 yrs ago it would not be as proficient or profitable as it is. So maybe change for what we are in now and plan for where we want to be is a better idea right now. Because honestly the horse and buggy worked great a hundred years ago but you don’t really see that as a daily grocery getter advertisement on the YouTube ad do you?
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This am was a great example of that. Bush totaled 24 players and nits and rooks had 38 combined. I was on for almost two hours and not a single base on the nit rook front flashed. Yet the bish had a 13.9 eny. I watched about 8 bases get rolled as streams of lancs 47m 190d 51d and temps rolled in over the tops of the bases.
Sounds like a good fight without having to go far.
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Sounds like a good fight without having to go far.
More like tedious. To each his own.
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Sounds like a good fight without having to go far.
you would think, but no one will "fight" they hover over a base and pick until you come in at coalt or even e state and then they run. I flew two sorties over our base in a spit ran to 1/4 tank each time chasing a plane and only landed two kills. that's boring very boring with a full dar bar over your head. don't forget the eny we had
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you would think, but no one will "fight" they hover over a base and pick until you come in at coalt or even e state and then they run. I flew two sorties over our base in a spit ran to 1/4 tank each time chasing a plane and only landed two kills. that's boring very boring with a full dar bar over your head. don't forget the eny we had
Well its actually a GOOD THING we had ENY :O Otherwise they wouldnt have been anywhere near OUR base. Seems lately as soon as ENY ups to beyond WIRB levels...an attack will take shape. After most defenders up in ENY limited vehicles or planes the ENY suddenly goes back to normal. Almost like its planned :headscratch: Why I stay low,if they want me its gonna be on my terms,aint gonna chase. Still more fun than anything else I have found :cheers:
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you would think, but no one will "fight" they hover over a base and pick until you come in at coalt or even e state and then they run. I flew two sorties over our base in a spit ran to 1/4 tank each time chasing a plane and only landed two kills. that's boring very boring with a full dar bar over your head. don't forget the eny we had
Try staying low. They will come to you. Do not chase them. They will want that easy low kill. Make them miss till they are frustrated and make a mistake.
It is not how many kills you land but the fight. You can have some knock-out drag-out fights and only land one or two kills. Once you land or die, as the case may be..... you had a blast fighting.
I know you have been here long enough to know this but sometimes we just forget when we are pulled into another persons attempt at a trap. Just because they have alt does not really mean they are controlling the fight. :aok
I will soon be back and.look forward to it. :salute
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Try staying low. They will come to you. Do not chase them. They will want that easy low kill. Make them miss till they are frustrated and make a mistake.
It is not how many kills you land but the fight. You can have some knock-out drag-out fights and only land one or two kills. Once you land or die, as the case may be..... you had a blast fighting.
I know you have been here long enough to know this but sometimes we just forget when we are pulled into another persons attempt at a trap. Just because they have alt does not really mean they are controlling the fight. :aok
I will soon be back and.look forward to it. :salute
Thats one of the problems the game is facing these days (see bolded text). To a large....very large portion of the player population this is no longer true. EASY kills to get your name in lights, HOing, or just to knock defenders out of the sky to grab a base quick are now the norm. Running to ack, bailing, runnning to friends are the main maneuvers that most players learn and figure that is enough of an arsenal and dont learn anything else about fighting. The game is no longer "about the fight", its about winning as quickly as they can.
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Below bold statement is why I think front-based ENY would be fair.
I don't want ENY restrictions go away, just be changed
I've been rolled by 1:3 too many times and it's hard as it is meeting ENY 15-25 P51B's and 190A5, F4u1 Spit9's - meeting perked or ENY 5 planes just make it a suicide.
If ENY actually reflected the numerical odds people are facing it might be useful. But as long as we have the current setup that will never happen. For whatever reason most of the time it seems 2 of the countries gang up against the 3rd and one front is completely quiet. (Yes, this happens to every side with equal frequency but that doesn't make it any less annoying when it happens to your side.) And then there are all the people in the tower that are AFK for hours at a stretch. The result is you can be facing 3-2 or even 2-1 odds in all your fights AND be restricted to midwar planes. One 190-A5 in a big and more or less evenly matched furball can be fun to fly; one 190-A5 against a bunch of La-7s, 109-K4s, and Spit16s that come in with a huge alt advantage is just suicide. It also robs you of the ability to use CVs to attack because the only plane that can carry a meaningful ord load is the TBM, and a TBM against superior numbers of late war fighters is even MORE suicidal. There's no point in trying and no fun in the attempt.
And 12 hours or 6, the long side switch time works completely at cross purposes with ENY. 6 hours is still longer than most people spend online at a time. It means your side switch is for the rest of the evening even if ENY goes the other way. This happened to me just the other night, I switched from bish to rooks and 2 hours later the rooks had a 20 or so ENY and I was stuck there. It discourages people from switching at the same time ENY is supposed to be encouraging people to switch for balance.
As I said before this is mostly a problem late night. Late night is already a problem with no one doing anything but trying to sneak unopposed bases, which is not all that hard when there are three times as many bases as players. And half the people are in GVs which are completely invisible and just hide when any enemy is around and wait for the opponent to get bored hunting for hay-colored needles in the haystack and go somewhere else. The game is getting close to unplayable late at night. ENY is only a small part of that but still, it is part of the problem, not the solution.
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Last night I logged in and the Bish were down to 30% of their fields and the Knights were a couple of Rook bases away from a win, yet the push continued on the Bish. I dont think there was an ENY. Knights had 40% of Bish bases but were continuing to hit the Bish. While I hate the Bish as much as the next guy :devil I think HTC should put in a cap on bases captured for a team.
Once a team has captured 30% of an opposing teams bases they shouldnt be able to capture any more. This would give the losing team a chance to regroup. It would also make "defending" bases more important. If the Knights have pushed the Bish to the 30% down rule they now have to WATCH/DEFEND that front to not allow the Bish to get all those bases back WHILE pushing the other front to win the war.
Capping a base wouldn't be such a futile thing any more as you KNOW they will be coming to try and get those bases back while the rest of your team pushes for the win on the other front. I think it would generate more action in the long run.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,391491.msg5202561.html#msg5202561
That’s what I was getting at here
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Why? They might take a look at you and suspend your account on the spot? :banana: :neener:
I dont know, I think Id be pretty nervous if I ever got the chance to visit them. :confused:
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Since AH3 went live I've seen on average country numbers like (23, 30, 50), (42, 42, 36), really late at night (5, 10, 9). ENY came about becasue this kind of number pattern (300, 25, 20). From there the game kept growing numbers and ENY had a usefulness. Today, until maybe 225 players in the MA, ENY does nothing but kill activity that is otherwise needed to promote more activity that day and in future days. When there is a lot of activity it attracts activity and when it carries on long enough to be a norm, players come in looking forward to more of it. As far as I can see from all of my lurking to help me design terrains. A maximum of 120 players at prime time, ENY has no purpose. If anything unless numbers are at the higher end of 120, the ENY punished players still roll on punishing the low numbers ENY rich players. Or you see more GV activity until things change.
120 players as a prime time max is not enough players for uber planes; tanks or the lack of to matter to impact things like 300 and more. Maybe it's time to adjust the player max count in the MA to something that does not impact 120 people's time. In the last year I've seen 225 one night before SFO with everyone warming up in early war rides. We still took out the late war monsters as part of that warm up along with stopping heavy bombers.
Always wondered if ENY used as a carrot to even things up wouldn't have worked more judiciously by removing late war rides from everyone equally? Then it never really worked to help numbers choose to even things. So the stick was loosing uber ride privileges for awhile and often the high numbers side or sides just upped a slightly slower hoard and marched on. Numbers in the end mattered what ever ride you are in.
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I think I agree with bustr?
I can see eny on some bombers because if we have high numbers we shouldn't be able to wf towns in one pass, but when one country is fighting the other two and cant up anything off the ship and there is a total of 40 players on that's a little counterintuitive. and I hear more I am logging than I am switching side
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I think I agree with bustr?
I can see eny on some bombers because if we have high numbers we shouldn't be able to wf towns in one pass, but when one country is fighting the other two and cant up anything off the ship and there is a total of 40 players on that's a little counterintuitive. and I hear more I am logging than I am switching side
I switched yesterday and wound up stuck with no fight. If you and Judge had not come over to do battle on my front I would have had zero to do...
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I can see eny on some bombers because if we have high numbers we shouldn't be able to wf towns in one pass
Yes.
Also, the high-number side has "extra" players to hit enemy strat which forces the low-number side to resupply and/or watch de-acked towns and Vbases for sneaks -- the most boring aspects of the game.
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I switched yesterday and wound up stuck with no fight. If you and Judge had not come over to do battle on my front I would have had zero to do...
You could have started a FUSS on 200. I've seen you do that once or twice. :neener:
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You could have started a FUSS on 200. I've seen you do that once or twice. :neener:
Quiet you. :old:
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People here think there is a formula for ENY???? :rofl :rofl :rofl
HTC legit went...."ok TA152....10 sounds good...it has some nice guns and great handles high alt"