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Title: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: ozrocker on August 24, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
<S>
Remember Voss?  :rofl




                                                                                                                              :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2018, 04:18:37 PM
<S>
Remember Voss?  :rofl




                                                                                                                              :cheers: Oz

Didn't he fly a spaceship?    :bhead
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 24, 2018, 04:27:30 PM
Thought he got bit by a scorpion while he was out on one of his redacted CIA ops, that had to do with swiping COAD for that new combat flight simulator/mmog he was developing

Or am I thinking of another player?


Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: AAIK on August 24, 2018, 04:35:36 PM
The name rings a bell.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Shuffler on August 24, 2018, 04:41:33 PM
I also heard he once was inserted in Africa. He infiltrated the Zulu tribe and moved among them freely . He later bragged about the brand wood stain he used to fit in.

He wrote a book but it remains unpublished due to all the secret info included.

 :rock
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: mERv on August 24, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
Thought he got bit by a scorpion while he was out on one of his redacted CIA ops, that had to do with swiping COAD for that new combat flight simulator/mmog he was developing

Or am I thinking of another player?
shhhh...
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Busher on August 24, 2018, 06:33:39 PM
Didn't he fly a spaceship?    :bhead

Not only flew it, he invented it ;)
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: 1stpar3 on August 24, 2018, 06:36:29 PM
 :furious This AINT FAIR,dangit :furious  Wasnt my fault I USE TO HAVE A LIFE..and missed out on playing long ago :uhoh  There seems to be a GREAT STORY here? PLEASE :pray
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Meatwad on August 24, 2018, 07:41:48 PM
 :noid
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Vulcan on August 24, 2018, 07:59:02 PM
Thought he got bit by a scorpion while he was out on one of his redacted CIA ops, that had to do with swiping COAD for that new combat flight simulator/mmog he was developing

Or am I thinking of another player?

Nah, voss got bit by a scorpion after ejecting from his f16 irrc.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 24, 2018, 08:06:45 PM
Nah, voss got bit by a scorpion after ejecting from his f16 irrc.

I see what I did there...... I ran 4 to 5 different storys together as one... Thanks for refreshing my memory for me...

hehe

TC
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Oldman731 on August 24, 2018, 08:13:10 PM
Remember Voss?


Isn't he the Man from Uncle guy who sells superior computers?

- oldman (...why...have you seen him..?)
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: SIK1 on August 24, 2018, 08:49:53 PM
Who you calling old?   :angry:

 
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2018, 08:23:18 AM
Remember he was privately chatting with some of us trying to raise money for his own development of a flight sim?
Wonder how many gave him money LOL! :bolt:
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Drano on August 25, 2018, 11:36:23 AM
Didn't be own a B-17 too?

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Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: icepac on August 25, 2018, 11:57:46 AM
Relaxed realism arena?    AOL?

Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: DaveBB on August 25, 2018, 02:45:38 PM
Voss was a self-proclaimed CIA F-16 pilot with a couple of kills in the Gulf War (hence why they weren't registered) who conned at least one player out of thousands of dollars for an alleged online flight sim he was making.  Then he claimed to have gotten bit by a scorpion hence the delay in game development.

He showed his head on here a few more times under different names.  Easy to spot as he had typical narcissistic personality disorder and would claim to have done outrageous stuff.  The last time I remember him here is when he showed up under a different name and claimed to have invented a new type of dollar bill validator that all the casinos in Vegas were going to use.  Total nutjob.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: 1stpar3 on August 25, 2018, 03:26:58 PM
Voss was a self-proclaimed CIA F-16 pilot with a couple of kills in the Gulf War (hence why they weren't registered) who conned at least one player out of thousands of dollars for an alleged online flight sim he was making.  Then he claimed to have gotten bit by a scorpion hence the delay in game development.

He showed his head on here a few more times under different names.  Easy to spot as he had typical narcissistic personality disorder and would claim to have done outrageous stuff.  The last time I remember him here is when he showed up under a different name and claimed to have invented a new type of dollar bill validator that all the casinos in Vegas were going to use.  Total nutjob.
Ah! THANKS...I hate not knowing all these INSIDE JOKES. I think I have heard some players talking about a guy like that, must have been the same guy!  :x
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: MiloMorai on August 25, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Who remembers Kurfurst and Crumpp?
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Oldman731 on August 25, 2018, 04:03:41 PM
Who remembers Kurfurst and Crumpp?


Are we going down the Memory Road of Unpleasant People?

- oldman
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Guppy35 on August 25, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
Didn't be own a B-17 too?

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That was KenJr
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Meatwad on August 26, 2018, 10:17:13 PM
I finally found this. I forgot who made it up but it was posted here a LONG time ago

(https://i.imgur.com/DjrWFi9.png)
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: lunatic1 on August 27, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
I barely remember a Voss-
and who r um calling old
wait I might fit that category--is 60 old?
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: lunatic1 on August 28, 2018, 12:01:21 AM
<S>
Remember Voss?  :rofl




                                                                                                                              :cheers: Oz

ok so was this just a general question, or is there some kind of info behind the question?
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Maverick on August 28, 2018, 09:47:19 AM
Yeah I remember the idiot. Tried to give him the benefit of the doubt at first. Never bought into the donation or software bit as I had him pegged before then. Not sorry he's long gone. Pretty much a waste of oxygen.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Toad on August 31, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Mav! How you doing buddy? Check your PMs?
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: WEZEL on September 01, 2018, 06:57:22 AM
Good reading  :bolt:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,123551.msg1301182.html#msg1301182
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Meatwad on September 01, 2018, 03:55:18 PM
Dang I remember that thread and most of the names in it too  :old:
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Misery on September 03, 2018, 10:16:03 AM
I don't think he really bilked many out of anything. One person paid for a computer for him. That was a couple of thousand back in the day. What he really did was lie about absolutely everything while insisting people behaved honorably and screaming like a petulant child if he determined they violated that honor code by doing something like shoot him down.

He had a spectacular photoshopped picture of him in the cockpit of his own P-51. He had another made up picture of the flight sim he was working on. Both helped put the rest of his "I can, and have, done it better than ICI." rants into perspective.

He was the 3 sigma version of the fliers from the day.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: ozrocker on September 06, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
ok so was this just a general question, or is there some kind of info behind the question?
Lunatic,
Plenty of info about him mentioned in responses. He was a legend in his own mind.



                                                                                                                                             <S> Oz
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: eagl on September 07, 2018, 10:58:35 AM
Voss had a P-51, not a B-17.

His delusions would have been merely strange if he hadn't stolen actual money from other people in the flightsim community.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Traveler on September 12, 2018, 04:09:25 PM
I barely remember a Voss-
and who r um calling old
wait I might fit that category--is 60 old?
there is a simple test to tell if you are old or not,   move to the middle of the floor, lay down, now get up, without holding on to anything.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: SuperDud on September 12, 2018, 05:38:44 PM
I miss those days
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Wildin on September 12, 2018, 06:07:13 PM
there is a simple test to tell if you are old or not,   move to the middle of the floor, lay down, now get up, without holding on to anything.

Is there a time limit?  :old:
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Traveler on September 13, 2018, 09:13:49 AM
Is there a time limit?  :old:
I started doing a cardio work out every morning at 6AM, I was 50 years old.  I'm now 70, the work out requires me to get on the floor for leg lifts and push up.  a lot of getting down and getting up while trying to follow this 20 something on the 30 minute work out video tape.  After my wife passed away a few years ago, I made sure that when I do the exercises in the morning my cell phone is right next to me on my mat, you know, just in case.  I was a NJ EMT on a volunteer first aid squad for 38 years and we used to receive almost daily calls for "Help I've fallen and I can't get up"  I decided then to do everything I could in my power  to avoid that situation.  The reality is that if you have fallen the time limit for getting up is until the end of your life. 
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Wildin on September 13, 2018, 12:32:29 PM
74, not old yet.  I often find the mind is willing but the bellybutton is dragging.  Maybe get a low impact senior video. :lol
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: streakeagle on December 09, 2018, 11:33:37 PM
I just wanted to add one thing: the most entertaining aspect of the "voss" character is that HTC despised him so much that they would let any threads about how bad he was go on almost indefinitely. The HTC forums are generally run very well. The fact that they would let anyone and everyone disparage "Voss" or any of his aliases for pages and pages and pages of threads let's you know how bad HTC thought "Voss" really was for the community. As I didn't start playing 3d PC flight sims (as opposed to "Flight Simulator" on a Timex Sinclair 1000 or "Fighter Pilot" and "Tomahawk" on a Timex Sinclair 2068) until fall of 2000, I wouldn't know who "Voss" was or what he had done without all the fantastic threads on the HTC Aces High forums. Entertaining stuff for someone who wasn't directly impacted.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: caldera on December 10, 2018, 07:46:53 AM
Is there a time limit?  :old:

 :rofl
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Tex on December 12, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Voss, wow.

13th TAS still around?

Pre gooberhead Voss (Paul Hinds) was a co-founder with myself and Doom (3422 aka Michael Hobuss) and 2-3 others. Iceman and Cherubs iirc. This was prior to AH being anything but coad HT was starting to think about. Somewhere in the next two years (1995-6?) Doom and Voss lost their ever loving minds. I'm still unsure if Paul Hinds was the guy I knew and had his account stolen or the cloak of anonymity that lets the crazies be even more crazy (the Intardnet) kicked him over the edge like it did several people from back then. I know Doom gave him quite a bit of money. 15k is the figure I remember. Doom was an Army trained opthamologist iirc. His gooberness was at least as unpleasant as the absolute gall that Voss displayed along with KenJr and he who shall not be named.


Somehow I managed to stay safe and sane and an all around great guy through hanging out with these buffoons.  :rock  :banana: :airplane:
It helped that I flew /mov 4 and they stayed in Half Time. And that's all I've got to say about that.

Tex
968   GEnie
5883 Cris

SB will be along later to straighten all this out I'm sure.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: FLOOB on December 13, 2018, 12:58:04 AM
Dang I remember that thread and most of the names in it too  :old:
Yeah makes me kind of sad. Where did they all go?
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: mikeWe9a on December 14, 2018, 12:02:46 PM
Voss, wow.

13th TAS still around?

Pre gooberhead Voss (Paul Hinds) was a co-founder with myself and Doom (3422 aka Michael Hobuss) and 2-3 others. Iceman and Cherubs iirc. This was prior to AH being anything but coad HT was starting to think about. Somewhere in the next two years (1995-6?) Doom and Voss lost their ever loving minds. I'm still unsure if Paul Hinds was the guy I knew and had his account stolen or the cloak of anonymity that lets the crazies be even more crazy (the Intardnet) kicked him over the edge like it did several people from back then. I know Doom gave him quite a bit of money. 15k is the figure I remember. Doom was an Army trained opthamologist iirc. His gooberness was at least as unpleasant as the absolute gall that Voss displayed along with KenJr and he who shall not be named.


Somehow I managed to stay safe and sane and an all around great guy through hanging out with these buffoons.  :rock  :banana: :airplane:
It helped that I flew /mov 4 and they stayed in Half Time. And that's all I've got to say about that.

Tex
968   GEnie
5883 Cris

SB will be along later to straighten all this out I'm sure.

Ah Tex!  I remember the good ol' 13TAS from AW (and early WB/AH).  Speed here --3453 GeNIE/2022 Delphi IIRC.  I remember the old HT arena as well.  Haven't been doing much flying in many years, though I still follow along the boards.

Mike
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Maverick on December 15, 2018, 10:26:06 AM
Heya Tex, Yup a few of us from TAS are still here. Toad hangs out n the boards but he is in the process of retiring and moving again so kinda busy lately. I monitor the O'club. Tried to get back into flying again but that didn't work out very well. To me the changes are closer to a "twitch" game now rather than the flying I remember from 04 and before. Perhaps I am just too old to perform anywhere near to the level I used to.
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: SlapShot on December 22, 2018, 08:31:04 PM
Voss, wow.

13th TAS still around?

Pre gooberhead Voss (Paul Hinds) was a co-founder with myself and Doom (3422 aka Michael Hobuss) and 2-3 others. Iceman and Cherubs iirc. This was prior to AH being anything but coad HT was starting to think about. Somewhere in the next two years (1995-6?) Doom and Voss lost their ever loving minds. I'm still unsure if Paul Hinds was the guy I knew and had his account stolen or the cloak of anonymity that lets the crazies be even more crazy (the Intardnet) kicked him over the edge like it did several people from back then. I know Doom gave him quite a bit of money. 15k is the figure I remember. Doom was an Army trained opthamologist iirc. His gooberness was at least as unpleasant as the absolute gall that Voss displayed along with KenJr and he who shall not be named.


Somehow I managed to stay safe and sane and an all around great guy through hanging out with these buffoons.  :rock  :banana: :airplane:
It helped that I flew /mov 4 and they stayed in Half Time. And that's all I've got to say about that.

Tex
968   GEnie
5883 Cris

SB will be along later to straighten all this out I'm sure.

I was in the 13th TAS and moved to the Blue Knights when they folded up the tents ... I could listen to Toad tell stories all day long !
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: quig on December 29, 2018, 07:35:31 PM
I'm still waiting on the beta, Voss!

(https://i.imgur.com/XXmVapR.jpg)

http://www.combatsim.com/review.php?id=398
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: caldera on December 30, 2018, 10:33:17 AM
I'm still waiting on the beta, Voss!

(https://i.imgur.com/XXmVapR.jpg)

http://www.combatsim.com/review.php?id=398

I hope there is a GoFundMe page for this.  I've got the money burning a hole in my pocket.  :x
Title: Re: Only the old folks will remember this
Post by: Misery on December 30, 2018, 03:47:37 PM
1000 post thread with VOSS chiming into show his stripes:

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,123551.0.html