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Title: more daylight time
Post by: caldera on September 02, 2018, 09:16:26 AM
So many times I have logged on this month and the sun is setting.  The low light visibility takes quite a bit of enjoyment out of the game for me.  Increasing gamma in order to see what I'm fighting makes it look horrible.  The AH3 light seems to absorb more than reflect off airplanes, making them much darker than AH2. 

Would love if dawn/dusk/night was removed from the Melee Arena altogether, but please at least increase the amount of daylight time.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Drano on September 02, 2018, 10:44:50 AM


So many times I have logged on this month and the sun is setting.  The low light visibility takes quite a bit of enjoyment out of the game for me.  Increasing gamma in order to see what I'm fighting makes it look horrible.  The AH3 light seems to absorb more than reflect off airplanes, making them much darker than AH2. 

Would love if dawn/dusk/night was removed from the Melee Arena altogether, but please at least increase the amount of daylight time.

Lol and I thought this was only happening to me! I can only manage a dozen or so hours to fly a month and it's been kind of a running gag with the squad. As soon as I log on - - - well well look at that! It's dark again! Drano "the bringer of night" just logged on! Absolutely nuts. It's not even funny now as it's every time I log on the sun is either about to go down, had just gone down or has just come up. All I ever seem to get is mostly dark every time I fly!

Look I totally appreciate the effort put into the totally awesome night sky. I love the sunrises and sunsets especially with some puffy clouds around. It all looks great! Problem is it's near impossible to see the other players in the game which kind of defeats the purpose. I'd add any reason for people to log off the game is another nail in the coffin. People log when it gets dark. No Bueno!

I'm all for shortening the night AND the dawn /dusk periods. If you simply MUST have it, fine - - but it lasts way too long and what purpose it serves THIS game escapes me. Call me crazy but I kinda like flying my day fighter during the daylight hours.

+1000

(I await the "just turn up your gamma cretins)

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Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Zimme83 on September 02, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
The easiest way to handle the night time is to move to another base. The map has "time zones" so it isnt dark everywhere at the same time. That means that you can decrease the time you have to fly in darkness if that is an issue. But otherwise you can just rtb when it start to get dark and reup. By the time you are over the enemy base again it will no longer be dark...
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 02, 2018, 11:08:37 AM
+1 OP
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Drano on September 02, 2018, 11:09:33 AM
Of course! I could just fly in another part of the map where it's light out! Genius! There's probably a fight there - - - uhhh----right?

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Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: The Fugitive on September 02, 2018, 11:11:33 AM
The easiest way to handle the night time is to move to another base. The map has "time zones" so it isnt dark everywhere at the same time. That means that you can decrease the time you have to fly in darkness if that is an issue. But otherwise you can just rtb when it start to get dark and reup. By the time you are over the enemy base again it will no longer be dark...

Yup there are plenty of options if you have trouble with the dusk/dawn time in the game.....

Move to another base and fly around alone.

Move to another base and drive around alone.

Spawn a PT boat and circle the CV alone.

Best yet, log off and come back later..... maybe.

We are lucky these days to have ONE fight going on a map and having to move to a different "time zone" isnt a real option.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 02, 2018, 11:19:49 AM
Yup there are plenty of options if you have trouble with the dusk/dawn time in the game.....

Move to another base and fly around alone.

Move to another base and drive around alone.

Spawn a PT boat and circle the CV alone.

Best yet, log off and come back later..... maybe.

We are lucky these days to have ONE fight going on a map and having to move to a different "time zone" isnt a real option.

This.   Upping at another base is not an option when you're circling around bad guys in the dark trying not to hit the ground.   

I mean some people just shoot relative to the icon or turn up the gamma so dusk is pointless. 
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: ccvi on September 02, 2018, 12:41:45 PM
Call me crazy but I kinda like flying my day fighter during the daylight hours.

You are crazy.

It all makes sense now. It's dark, and we just got the solution. All fighters are upgraded to night-fighters with radar that allows to approach the enemy in total darkness. It just needs some more fine-tuning - altitde display and cockpit-light.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Drano on September 02, 2018, 01:11:01 PM
You are crazy.

It all makes sense now. It's dark, and we just got the solution. All fighters are upgraded to night-fighters with radar that allows to approach the enemy in total darkness. It just needs some more fine-tuning - altitde display and cockpit-light.
That's just silly. Night fighters(that's night fighters - - not ALL fighters) of the time had EXTREMELY short range radar and actually relied on visual for the final attack. They had to be vectored near enough to the target by more powerful but still inaccurate ground radar in the first place. Even so you could probably count the number of night fighter on night fighter engagements on one hand and that's probably being generous. I'm just thinking it's possible it happened at all.

All that said I do think a dedicated night fighter arena would be pretty cool but there's a problem with that. It's the players. See I kinda lived this nightmare before. Years ago I volunteered to be a radar controller in a BoB scenario. I was a third country that had only the radar sites at V bases on the SE coast of England. I would vector by PM to the GLs assigned to me. Had like a 5 minute delay to stimulate the primal radar sets. What was the first target? The radar sites! That folded like a cheap suit with one bomb hit or strafing. And so went each of the 3 frames. 3 hours of a Saturday afternoon shot to hell in the first 30 minutes. Not enough fighters to go around to protect them AND hit the giant LW steamroller coming thru. And this was in full daylight!

So, great idea but it would be totally abused by those who want only to hide in the dark rather than fight.

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Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Zimme83 on September 02, 2018, 03:33:25 PM
Yup there are plenty of options if you have trouble with the dusk/dawn time in the game.....

Move to another base and fly around alone.

Move to another base and drive around alone.

Spawn a PT boat and circle the CV alone.

Best yet, log off and come back later..... maybe.

We are lucky these days to have ONE fight going on a map and having to move to a different "time zone" isnt a real option.

The game is fading away and will probably be gone soon, but that has nothing to do with the night time.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: The Fugitive on September 02, 2018, 04:00:34 PM
The game is fading away and will probably be gone soon, but that has nothing to do with the night time.

As the "main" factor, no, but as one of the additional reason players are leaving, I'd put it in the top 10. In a game with 600 players a night playing the dusk/dawn wouldnt be that much an issue. But while Im sure many would still log off because of it, now a days its just one more thorn in the side of players.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 02, 2018, 04:04:33 PM
As the "main" factor, no, but as one of the additional reason players are leaving, I'd put it in the top 10. In a game with 600 players a night playing the dusk/dawn wouldnt be that much an issue. But while Im sure many would still log off because of it, now a days its just one more thorn in the side of players.

The more time people spend away from the game the less they need it.   The reasons for logging off become more numerous and trivial.   Anything that contributes to this cycle is a bad idea.

Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: caldera on September 03, 2018, 07:08:52 AM

Lol and I thought this was only happening to me! I can only manage a dozen or so hours to fly a month and it's been kind of a running gag with the squad. As soon as I log on - - - well well look at that! It's dark again! Drano "the bringer of night" just logged on! Absolutely nuts. It's not even funny now as it's every time I log on the sun is either about to go down, had just gone down or has just come up. All I ever seem to get is mostly dark every time I fly!

Look I totally appreciate the effort put into the totally awesome night sky. I love the sunrises and sunsets especially with some puffy clouds around. It all looks great! Problem is it's near impossible to see the other players in the game which kind of defeats the purpose. I'd add any reason for people to log off the game is another nail in the coffin. People log when it gets dark. No Bueno!

I'm all for shortening the night AND the dawn /dusk periods. If you simply MUST have it, fine - - but it lasts way too long and what purpose it serves THIS game escapes me. Call me crazy but I kinda like flying my day fighter during the daylight hours.

+1000

(I await the "just turn up your gamma cretins)

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I'll see your +1000 and raise you another +1000.   :aok

The easiest way to handle the night time is to move to another base. The map has "time zones" so it isnt dark everywhere at the same time. That means that you can decrease the time you have to fly in darkness if that is an issue. But otherwise you can just rtb when it start to get dark and reup. By the time you are over the enemy base again it will no longer be dark...

The easiest way to handle it is to log off. 
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 03, 2018, 08:29:48 AM
I'll see your +1000 and raise you another +1000.   :aok

The easiest way to handle it is to log off.

#Burn

Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: BuckShot on September 03, 2018, 10:08:59 AM
The more time people spend away from the game the less they need it.   The reasons for logging off become more numerous and trivial.   Anything that contributes to this cycle is a bad idea.

 ....like the radar experiments.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 03, 2018, 11:03:06 AM
....like the radar experiments.

No.  Those are good things.  We're talking about bad things. 
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: BuckShot on September 03, 2018, 01:46:28 PM
You think it's a good thing. I'd take even more nightime over the radar excrementing.

I like the night for the extra challenge.

I've never logged off because of game conditions like night or eny, but in August I didn't log on as much as usual because of the radar experiments.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 03, 2018, 01:48:08 PM
You think it's a good thing. I'd take even more nightime over the radar excrementing.

 :O
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: ONTOS on September 10, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
I would like more night time. I'm still trying to find as many constellations as I can.  As I have mentioned before. I have only found Aqua Man and two of the Three Stooges. Also, probably Chuck Berry.  :salute
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: lunatic1 on September 10, 2018, 06:47:44 PM
-1
make the nights longer-hehe
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Slade on September 14, 2018, 07:24:03 AM
+1
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Rebel28 on September 15, 2018, 11:03:00 AM
This game is far from being set up for nighttime operations.

1.   No cockpit panel lighting
2.   No navigation lights
3.   No landing lights (to spot the stupid trees that are placed at the ends of the runways)
4.     Not to mention some sort of runway lighting

All other simulations that model nighttime have these items as they are required for safe nighttime operation of aircraft.
If these needed items are not going to be implemented into the game and readjusting the gamma is going to be the norm. Then that setting should be taken off the clipboard and be placed in the settings for the joystick for up and down adjustment. 
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: ccvi on September 15, 2018, 02:07:17 PM
Then that setting should be taken off the clipboard and be placed in the settings for the joystick for up and down adjustment.

I'd like that on an analog axis please. Buttons are so 1980.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 02:34:28 PM
This game is far from being set up for nighttime operations.

1.   No cockpit panel lighting
2.   No navigation lights
3.   No landing lights (to spot the stupid trees that are placed at the ends of the runways)
4.     Not to mention some sort of runway lighting

All other simulations that model nighttime have these items as they are required for safe nighttime operation of aircraft.
If these needed items are not going to be implemented into the game and readjusting the gamma is going to be the norm. Then that setting should be taken off the clipboard and be placed in the settings for the joystick for up and down adjustment.

Besides all that civvie stuff, night fighters aren't actually modeled.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: lunaticfringe on September 15, 2018, 11:42:02 PM
night only lasts a few minutes quit whining
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 16, 2018, 12:45:56 PM
night only lasts a few minutes quit whining

Then why bother?


Get rid of it.  It makes people log off and that's counterproductive.
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: 1ijac on September 17, 2018, 01:03:13 AM
I simply move my gamma adjustment to 2.0 or 2.1.   It really doesn't last that long. 

One-eye
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: Vraciu on September 17, 2018, 09:48:42 AM
I simply move my gamma adjustment to 2.0 or 2.1.   It really doesn't last that long. 

One-eye

Which again begs the question: Why have it then?

Basically it is an inconvenience that people can get around by gaming the system.   
Title: Re: more daylight time
Post by: caldera on September 17, 2018, 01:15:21 PM
night only lasts a few minutes quit whining

The moment when the lack of light becomes a problem is subjective, but from the time it starts to get dark enough to be a problem until it becomes light enough to see clearly is more than "a few minutes".

I want to fight at high noon in glorious Technicolor.   :x

Turning up gamma makes everything look like poo.  Most of the time, I will log out and come back in an hour.  Does anyone log out because the sun is shining?   Low light conditions serve no purpose in the Melee Arena.