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Title: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 11, 2018, 09:23:55 AM
What, may I respond or not?

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 11, 2018, 10:00:11 AM
I'd be curious at what level that number is.

This is a good thing.    :rock
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 11, 2018, 10:06:51 AM
I. Know that it has been that way for quite some time now....something like that HTC put the COAD in to disabled (not exist) shortly after the eny restriction was coded in.....something like 14+ years ago

That's if my memory is serving me right


TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Krupinski on September 11, 2018, 10:23:12 AM
Can we do a 24hr test with only 2 countries in the main arena, please? I would resub for that, knowing I could easily find a fight any time of day. :)
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: perdue3 on September 11, 2018, 10:24:56 AM
Can we do a 24hr test with only 2 countries in the main arena, please? I would resub for that, knowing I could easily find a fight any time of day. :)

No need if the switch time was reduced.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: BOBO on September 11, 2018, 10:27:42 AM
No need if the switch time was reduced.

I don't know about that.  I went rook for a while about 3 years ago and a few of my former squadmates are just now starting to speak to me again.  I'm being serious here.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 11, 2018, 10:30:04 AM
Can we do a 24hr test with only 2 countries in the main arena, please? I would resub for that, knowing I could easily find a fight any time of day. :)

I would LOVE this.   Maybe a special thing once a week or once every two weeks.   SOMETHING.   Just to try it.   

I guess it would require a map revamping though.   May not be the easiest thing to implement.  :(
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: zack1234 on September 11, 2018, 01:14:15 PM
Eny has no effect on the Yak9T
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 11, 2018, 01:49:52 PM
Eny has no effect on the Yak9T

Neither do bullets.   :old:

 :rofl
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: waystin2 on September 11, 2018, 02:20:06 PM
No need if the switch time was reduced.
This is the better idea.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: hgtonyvi on September 11, 2018, 03:23:57 PM
I am starting to agree with the two country idea. With the numbers these days it will make sense to do it. I mean after 10PM eastern things kind of die out. 1 con flying in a sector with one tiny dar bar.....makes me yawn.....Lets just test it HTC. Two countries and see how it works out.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Bruv119 on September 11, 2018, 03:46:45 PM
would require alot of work on the map making side of things. 

Just small maps in the rotation should work.  Remove a few GV spawns here and there to prevent maps being rolled easily and hey presto! 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: duie on September 11, 2018, 05:00:34 PM
all it would require is the ava map set have  the MA settings..
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: duie on September 11, 2018, 05:04:56 PM
 OR  get enough people to fly AVA  where others would actually try  it out. 30 to 40  would be idea .
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: icepac on September 11, 2018, 09:40:26 PM
Could they write in ENY to stay on if there is a huge disparity even during low numbers.   

Turning it off with low numbers while things are balanced is fine.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: kappa on September 12, 2018, 12:16:38 AM
Game needs lines of attack. For example: 2 bases make a set. A team needs to take the first set in order to be able to take the next set.. infinity till map is won.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 12, 2018, 01:38:39 AM
So what happened in the last 24 hours. Was I PNGed and you changed your mind?

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: bustr on September 12, 2018, 12:20:41 PM
Nrshida,

In the arena setup\environment\general is a setting with a value 0-1000 for when ENY will turn on based on number of players in the arena. It is set at 70.

kappa,

You achieve the same thing by how you setup the GV spawns on a terrain. If you fill a terrain with spawns like buzzsaw or over populate a terrain with vBases like smpizza, GV players will balakanize from air combat initiatives unless there are well known greifing opportunities for tanks like at A2 on buzzsaw. Or you have an isolated air fight that a hoard of GV's will not face much resistance defending that field against a single GV spawn.

If you balance GV spawns with airfields so they describe an initiative pathway, GVers will follow the air combat to grief the field under attack or try and capture it. It will always be like herding cats unless you can convince Hitech to change the MA to a one sector map with a timer and everyone is forced at each other in a capture the flag timed match race. I've spent the last two years and three MA terrains into production learning about how to herd cats in the MA. Back when we had hundreds in the MA, capture paths were feasible because of so many people wanting something to do and the dynamics of how groups tend to sweep everyone along good or bad. With today's low numbers, trying to force them to fight won't get many takers. It's more like you put out a bowl of milk and some days all the cats fight to get at it and others, they couldn't care less.

You gents act like the human dynamics in the MA is a fixed factor and all you have to do is open a bag of treats and all the cats will come running. Three terrains back I thought that to with my first one, then learned better by my most recent one from observing how players utilized my first two terrains. Every time my three terrains come up in rotation, it amazes me what draws the interest of the players versus the last time those terrains cycled around. Players follow the paths of least resistance in most cases which end up being the GV spawns which allow the GVers to support air initiatives. Most of them want to play the game surrounded by their own green guys which is the key with low numbers to keep initiatives going. It becomes more like whackAmole played with cats.

No matter what Hitech tried to do about it back in the 400 a night days, that is how the majority of his customers wanted to play in the MA. The numbers kept initiatives going long past the shelf life for the capture. Today, a location will be crawling with green guys, you will re-arm to go back, and they are gone over that 10-15min period. That won't sustain lines of attack when the cats are that finicky about the milk. 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 12, 2018, 12:35:09 PM
Nrshida,

In the arena setup\environment\general is a setting with a value 0-1000 for when ENY will turn on based on number of players in the arena. It is set at 70.

My observation had bugger all to do with ENY. Somebody else made that assumption. Along with other assumptions.


You gents act like the human dynamics in the MA is a fixed factor

Fixed? How ironic.

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Shuffler on September 13, 2018, 01:51:07 PM
Neither do bullets.   :old:

 :rofl

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: bustr on September 13, 2018, 04:12:59 PM

Quote
Quote from: bustr on Yesterday at 12:20:41 PM

    You gents act like the human dynamics in the MA is a fixed factor


Fixed? How ironic.

Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 13, 2018, 04:46:15 PM
It's up to each individual to make his/her own fun and find it when logging in to the game

The fun is there, always has been.... Just need to learn to find it

This is what gets to me with all the different threads/posts.....

People these days want everything right now, without even trying to put any effort into it

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 13, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.

You you you you you.    :old:

Two years.   :old:

Five heart attacks.   :old:


#BrokenRecord

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Lazerr on September 13, 2018, 08:49:05 PM
Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.

Guy.. this is a video game. 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 13, 2018, 09:28:51 PM
Guy.. this is a video game.


Agreed.  Please just stop it.

- oldman
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 13, 2018, 09:45:35 PM
Guy.. this is a video game.

+1




Agreed.  Please just stop it.

- oldman

+1
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 13, 2018, 10:41:17 PM
Do people fully read every single post and reply in each thread?

To understand the situation and different conversations transpiring within a thread?

Before chiming in with off the mark/off the message replies that really have no clue or context as to the actual different conversations/side conversations in such threads/posts....

I don't think most are really interested or paying attention to what is being posted

What say you?

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Dundee on September 13, 2018, 11:16:53 PM
Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.

It was Holiday Inn Express that were handing out medical degrees ......Motel 6 just leaves the light on for ya..............they still can't find the on/off switch
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TWCAxew on September 14, 2018, 01:02:36 AM
It was Holiday Inn Express that were handing out medical degrees ......Motel 6 just leaves the light on for ya..............they still can't find the on/off switch

That's cause there is no off switch. You have to clap your hands 3 times :old:
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 14, 2018, 01:04:57 AM
It was Holiday Inn Express that were handing out medical degrees ......Motel 6 just leaves the light on for ya..............they still can't find the on/off switch
MMM, lets see now. Yup, it was you...sure sounds like something you would do...or Cybro :uhoh Wait a minute...49er and Cybro both prone to this... DANG IT DUNDEE....give it back!  :rofl
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: BOBO on September 14, 2018, 02:58:04 AM
I think this drawing illustrates ENY (and the ENY debate) perfectly.

(https://images.roguegaming.org/images/2018/09/14/Farside-Monster.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 06:24:39 AM
I love it that Bustr thinks he's got me by the b***s here. Vraciu, hold my pint and watch this for a reversal...


Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized.

Untrue. I have made a technical contribution to this game drawing on my very expensive education and state of the art expertise - for free - to directly help HTC keep new players - and even received positive feedback from players who used it. You even tried it and liked it. I just don't rub my contribution in people's faces at every opportunity like you do.


I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community.

A quick glance at your methods and obvious bias indicates your two years of watching hasn't supplied you any objective understanding either, so your point is moot.


You know what my theory is about you Bustr? Well you can read it anyway since you cited my name as a bad example  :)

I think you have spent a painfully long time, two years and three heart attacks <whatever> trying to make MA maps which insulate or separate your average Joes from your perceived ACM-sharks. An endeavour analogous to Alchemy and similarly based on a fundamental misassumption regarding the elements involved. That's why you keep having to go back to the drawing board - so-to-speak. You could have, of course, consulted an expert but that would naturally have undermined your favourite informal fallacy that of arguing-from-authority. Plus you'd have tipped your hand to the falseness of your presentation - which is that of an impartial contributor to the game who's only got its best interests at heart, and doesn't expect to get anything out of it, who understands the game dynamic better than HiTech, but would never say that outright of course, because you're so well-mannered.

And now this is your go-to response if anyone dares challenge your (unfounded) assertions on what amounts to an increasing character assassination of other players / forum members or their opinions when they differ from your vision of y̶o̶u̶r̶ I'm sorry, I meant HiTech's game. 




And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA

Is this perhaps an indication of the normal standard of your research?:-

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour215&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour216&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour217&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour218&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour219&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour220&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour221&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour222&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour223&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour224&player=nrshida

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9965/hitoverhead.gif)


Although it's true I don't prefer the MA because average Joes just don't taste very good. The best prey are the ones that can actually kill you. Although there's not so many of them left. It's hard to judge of course if that's environmental or an ACM-improvement because, as you say, it is indeed a fluxing and dynamic environment. Obviously. Anyway I'm sure the implied Hemingway reference is not wasted on someone as literate as you present yourself to be  (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/detective2.gif)



*And before the standard let's Rule #4 nrshida's response because it's too personal informal fallacy is invoked - this is not personal, it pertains to 'professional' activities pertaining / 'contributing' to the game and is a response to Bustr's post in which my name (amongst others) was cited and used as a bad example - a valid and fair rebuttal.


Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 06:28:31 AM
And another point. The title of this thread is a direct quote from HiTech, the subject of discussion I proposed to be about creative alternatives to ENY and all the rest. But never mind. Even the most bloody-minded eventually identify a  :bhead situation. Carry on  :)
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 14, 2018, 07:18:12 AM
And another point. The title of this thread is a direct quote from HiTech, the subject of discussion I proposed to be about creative alternatives to ENY and all the rest. But never mind. Even the most bloody-minded eventually identify a  :bhead situation. Carry on  :)


I'm responding to this post for the simple fact my first reply in this thread was the only thing I could post to try and show that the eny restriction code had always been there since its inception....

Then replied twice because nobody else seems to be paying attention

Cheers

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 08:48:34 AM
I love it that Bustr thinks he's got me by the b***s here. Vraciu, hold my pint and watch this for a reversal...

Got it.  :cheers:


Quote
Untrue. I have made a technical contribution to this game drawing on my very expensive education and state of the art expertise - for free - to directly help HTC keep new players - and even received positive feedback from players who used it. You even tried it and liked it. I just don't rub my contribution in people's faces at every opportunity like you do.


A quick glance at your methods and obvious bias indicates your two years of watching hasn't supplied you any objective understanding either, so your point is moot.


You know what my theory is about you Bustr? Well you can read it anyway since you cited my name as a bad example  :)

I think you have spent a painfully long time, two years and three heart attacks <whatever> trying to make MA maps which insulate or separate your average Joes from your perceived ACM-sharks. An endeavour analogous to Alchemy and similarly based on a fundamental misassumption regarding the elements involved. That's why you keep having to go back to the drawing board - so-to-speak. You could have, of course, consulted an expert but that would naturally have undermined your favourite informal fallacy that of arguing-from-authority. Plus you'd have tipped your hand to the falseness of your presentation - which is that of an impartial contributor to the game who's only got its best interests at heart, and doesn't expect to get anything out of it, who understands the game dynamic better than HiTech, but would never say that outright of course, because you're so well-mannered.

And now this is your go-to response if anyone dares challenge your (unfounded) assertions on what amounts to an increasing character assassination of other players / forum members or their opinions when they differ from your vision of y̶o̶u̶r̶ I'm sorry, I meant HiTech's game. 




Is this perhaps an indication of the normal standard of your research?:-

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour215&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour216&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour217&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour218&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour219&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour220&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour221&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour222&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour223&player=nrshida
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/killstat.php?selectTour=LWTour224&player=nrshida

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/9965/hitoverhead.gif)


Although it's true I don't prefer the MA because average Joes just don't taste very good. The best prey are the ones that can actually kill you. Although there's not so many of them left. It's hard to judge of course if that's environmental or an ACM-improvement because, as you say, it is indeed a fluxing and dynamic environment. Obviously. Anyway I'm sure the implied Hemingway reference is not wasted on someone as literate as you present yourself to be  (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/detective2.gif)



*And before the standard let's Rule #4 nrshida's response because it's too personal informal fallacy is invoked - this is not personal, it pertains to 'professional' activities pertaining / 'contributing' to the game and is a response to Bustr's post in which my name (amongst others) was cited and used as a bad example - a valid and fair rebuttal.



 :rofl

#Burn

Quite the well-reasoned post I’d say. 

Shall I do the down on the mat count to three or hand you back your beer?
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: BOBO on September 14, 2018, 10:40:19 AM
So the experienced players really will just quickly figure out where the easy kills can be found and start abusing the skills they've gained through practicing?   :bhead

You ACM sharks had better start spending your time in game doing deep strikes with D3A1s until HTC lets you start flying the WWI planes in the MA with a soaked in gasoline option for their skins before a certain map maker has a brain aneurysm.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 11:40:03 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 11:53:08 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 12:07:02 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 12:59:11 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 01:05:52 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 01:16:32 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 01:24:06 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 02:04:46 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Copprhed on September 14, 2018, 02:17:08 PM
Sensei, why are you bothering with this? It(and they) is(are) beneath you.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 14, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
Sensei, why are you bothering with this? It(and they) is(are) beneath you.
It SHOULD BE beneath ALL OF US. This DOES NOT HELP...I understand the need to get your points out there and understood by those to whom those points are directed....DONE. Now let it GO for the good of the game.PLEASE I feel like I am going through a DIVORCE and find myself picking sides. DONT WANT TOO. I love and respect ALL you guys..so please STOP :salute
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 14, 2018, 03:00:17 PM
If the  MA is set up for the ENY to become disabled once the arena drops below a certain number of players, how does that make it unfair in any possible way?

I see it as a win or gain for all 3 countries/sides.....regardless if your side is extremely outnumbered or not....

Let your skill and abilities do your talking for you

Or have I missed the reason for this thread of possibilities of ideas to fix something that doesn't really need to be slapped around?

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 03:17:18 PM
Sensei,

Some ugly-minded forum members are going to have a field day thinking I insist you call me this to be adored. The real reason would not compute  :rofl


Or have I missed the reason for this thread of possibilities of ideas to fix something...

Yes you did a little bit. After the other thread was locked I could not access the forum or website for 24 hours so thought I'd been PNGed. Have sort of asked if this topic was off limits. Still waiting.

Rapidly losing any will to contribute further tbh TC  :)

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 14, 2018, 03:25:49 PM
You must didn't catch  Skuzzy's announcement post about the AH BBS would be going down while they were updating the website to be changed from HTTP to HTTPS (unsecured to secured)

You and all the rest of us could not access it ....me personally couldn't get to the  boards 3 or 4 different times
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 03:26:13 PM
I find Bustr much more capable, in that regard. Seems there's a cadre of players that really get miffed at his bringing up his experience with terrain making and dedicated mindset to understand both the mechanics and stated desires of the community as well as the practical constraints HT must work within to produce a good game (though he's the one member of the community devoted to such). He has mentioned the apparent attitudes of players whose egos drive their opinions and mistake such for expertise and I guess that stirs their pot. However, I do appreciate how much he doesn't let those types of players drag him off message.

No, we get miffed at the constant finger pointing and air of superiority.  It's rather off-putting.  And as Shida has pointed out, his motives are not genuine, IMHO.   He has a bias against "ACM Sharks" for some reason.   I think Goose's line in Top Gun expresses the sentiment: "They were abused children" as in getting spanked in aerial combat by the Skyyr's or the world.


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Shida? Well, he can pretend to be such but he always seems to devolve into hurt feelings and dug in heels. I find his regular need to make fun of Bustr's heart attacks both juvenile and beneath contempt. He's the kinda guy you hafta massage constantly. He may have potential but he's not willing to take a shot to the ego for the team.

And .... before this goes further (if it does) .... I've made my observation and said my piece. May this .... productive thread .... produce something worthy (in spite of .... whatever .... self included).

Bustr really had heart attacks?  I thought that was just hyperbole.  So we have our very own Larry King here then.   Wow.

:)
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: The Fugitive on September 14, 2018, 03:27:30 PM
Some ugly-minded forum members are going to have a field day thinking I insist you call me this to be adored. The real reason would not compute  :rofl


Yes you did a little bit. After the other thread was locked I could not access the forum or website for 24 hours so thought I'd been PNGed. Have sort of asked if this topic was off limits. Still waiting.

Rapidly losing any will to contribute further tbh TC  :)

You were not PNGed, they were in the process of moving the web servers and ran into some problems.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,394549.0.html

The topic is not off limits as long as the conversation stays on topic, remains civil, and proceeds with respect to all included, HTC especially.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 14, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
Bustr really had heart attacks?  I thought that was just hyperbole. 


He did.  A year or so ago, if memory serves.  Possibly more.

Shouldn't matter.  There's no need for Bustr to generally attack "sharks," and no need to respond by attacking Bustr.  HTC does not give people perk points for clever repartee.  It only makes our collective group look small.

- oldman
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 03:43:08 PM

He did.  A year or so ago, if memory serves.  Possibly more.

Shouldn't matter.  There's no need for Bustr to generally attack "sharks," and no need to respond by attacking Bustr.  HTC does not give people perk points for clever repartee.  It only makes our collective group look small.

- oldman

 :salute :cheers:

Whatever our differences of opinion (or shared ones, for that matter), I've always respected how you keep it classy, OM.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 08:46:31 PM
You were not PNGed, they were in the process of moving the web servers

You must didn't catch  Skuzzy's announcement post about the AH BBS would be going down

I did not see notification and assumed your IP was blocked from the website completely when PNGed. Ping packets were returned. A natural conclusion given the context but actually bad timing.

When are you bringing that Vought Corsair of yours into the Match Play Arena TC? So few do. I'd stay up late for that  :rock


He did.  A year or so ago, if memory serves.  Possibly more.

Evidently we were unaware and using it as a satirical commentary equivalent to the 'blood, sweat & tears' portrait Bustr painted about MA map-making. Which discouraged others to tackle the endeavour. Obviously would not wish such a thing or wilfully mock a person in that way  over differences of ideology in a computer game.


The topic is not off limits as long as the conversation stays on topic,

Yeah, I did have some interesting creative suggestions to make as alternatives to ENY in off-peak hours. In the light of recent analysis & game-changing agreement from people in high places I think the MA should be left just exactly as it is & players can simply log off quietly when an off-peak imbalance arises. Best solution all round.


There's no need for Bustr to generally attack "sharks," and no need to respond by attacking Bustr.

No, we get miffed at the constant finger pointing and air of superiority.  It's rather off-putting.

Well the main thing is that some people completely fail to notice or choose to ignore the ongoing passive-aggressive attacks on something some people are passionate about and are able to act out their Marvel Comic fantasies of leaping to the defence of the 'innocent' by ironically resorting to the exact tactic they abhor. Which is of course different when they are doing it.





Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 14, 2018, 08:51:25 PM
Sensei, why are you bothering with this? It(and they) is(are) beneath you.

You know what's ironic old friend? I've never allowed myself to think this way about others for fear of being arrogant. Perhaps you could teach me how to ignore people. My final AH lesson?  :)

 :salute
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 09:57:31 PM
Well the main thing is that some people completely fail to notice or choose to ignore the ongoing passive-aggressive attacks on something some people are passionate about and are able to act out their Marvel Comic fantasies of leaping to the defence of the 'innocent' by ironically resorting to the exact tactic they abhor. Which is of course different when they are doing it.

If that's long-speak/excuse-mode complain/whining about people who smack forum members for acting like bullies being bullies them-self, I'm glad there was a nerve that got touched. You still owe Bustr an apology, imo (because that took the long and roundabout method to avoid one). If you can muster the apparently extreme amount of courage it would take to do that then I may feel inspired to follow your lead and treat you like a grown-up.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 14, 2018, 10:38:25 PM
Arlo, brother...just don't forget about the misunderstanding between the English in the old country and the English version we use in God's country.... The U.S. .......

That's a problem with message boards / text.....

Having been nearly around the world in my Navy days, I learned long ago there was a difference between the two and found that communication in person or on the phone is so much better.....

Posting text leaves a disconnect between the two..... That I have witnessed many times on this message board....

You should already know this, since we basically both were serving at the same time


~S~

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 14, 2018, 10:44:48 PM
nrshida, let me get past this storm and I will try to catch up with you in the Match Play Arena....

Violator was wanting to do something with that arena ( I'll let him explain it  or bring it up in another thread )

Which I think he caught my interest along with possibly Bruv and a few others

~S~

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Shuffler on September 14, 2018, 11:02:59 PM
Do people fully read every single post and reply in each thread?

To understand the situation and different conversations transpiring within a thread?

Before chiming in with off the mark/off the message replies that really have no clue or context as to the actual different conversations/side conversations in such threads/posts....

I don't think most are really interested or paying attention to what is being posted

What say you?

TC

It is green with a tinge of red around the edges.  :D
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 14, 2018, 11:34:03 PM

Well the main thing is that some people completely fail to notice or choose to ignore the ongoing passive-aggressive attacks on something some people are passionate about and are able to act out their Marvel Comic fantasies of leaping to the defence of the 'innocent' by ironically resorting to the exact tactic they abhor. Which is of course different when they are doing it.

I’m not the one going you you you you guys you you you like I know what everyone is thinking.   You-know-you (again, not you) is the expert at incorrectly telling everyone else what they are thinking, not me. 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 14, 2018, 11:41:13 PM
I’m not the one going you you you you guys you you you like I know what everyone is thinking.   You-know-you (again, not you) is the expert at incorrectly telling everyone else what they are thinking, not me.

Sometimes people actually post what they are thinking (or at least seem to pretend to). In such cases, others may respond that they have read what they said and use 'you' when talking about what they, in first person, posted. If that tradition has changed, some of us need to know. My step-son still updates me on millennial text-speak.  :old:
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 12:03:14 AM
Sometimes people actually post what they are thinking (or at least seem to pretend to). In such cases, others may respond that they have read what they said and use 'you' when talking about what they, in first person, posted. If that tradition has changed, some of us need to know. My step-son still updates me on millennial text-speak.  :old:

That doesn’t work when one says, “You guys all think...” and “You ACM sharks want...” and “You people just can’t...”

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 15, 2018, 02:15:18 AM
about people who smack forum members

That's what you think you're doing? I don't think flooding the thread with Rule #4 violations does 'smack' me though. You'd be better off addressing the points of the argument.


I'm glad there was a nerve that got touched.

No, sorry to disappoint you. I just think you're trying to troll me because I trigger you personally. Why would that be my problem.


You still owe Bustr an apology, imo

Bustr will have no apology because we are engaged in a dispute with him over ongoing differences of opinion over philosophies of gameplay and contributions to the game of Aces High into which he has given as much as he's taken. Vraciu and I will patiently wait for your apology however for accusing us of knowingly throwing Bustr's heart attacks into the mix, which was unfounded, untrue and slanderous.


Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 15, 2018, 02:20:51 AM
you're resorting to such in an obvious attempt to assault another player's character... It reflects a lack of civil boundaries.

Which would be wrong to do you say...


Oh look, a bromance. Everybody watch Shida...

Shida? Well, he can pretend to be such but he always seems to devolve into hurt feelings and dug in heels.

He's the kinda guy you hafta massage constantly.

I've more than made my personal observation.

I've met my fair share of Brits that excel at communicating via the written word and there's not really that much of a gap, where insult is concerned. Frankly, Shida is no John Cleese.


It's literally just a barrage of personal attacks on my character, insulting me with no reference or contribution to the topic under discussion or the ongoing argument between ACM-sharks versus Regular Joes. I'd understood this was not allowed on the forum. But whatever...






Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 15, 2018, 02:36:14 AM
You still owe Bustr an apology, imo (because that took the long and roundabout method to avoid one).

Just a final correction on a small detail. I don't know if you are implying that I had apologised to Bustr because some of your posts seemed a bit emotional but perhaps you missed the quotations around the word 'innocent' which were meant to depict your impression of Bustr, not mine.


I may feel inspired to follow your lead and treat you like a grown-up.

I don't want to inspire you. Honestly I think the way you 'treat' (<- please notice the quotation marks there indicating your impression, not mine) me is far more representative of you as a person. Why change?








Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 15, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
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Evidently we were unaware and using it as a satirical commentary equivalent to the 'blood, sweat & tears' portrait Bustr painted about MA map-making. Which discouraged others to tackle the endeavour. Obviously would not wish such a thing or wilfully mock a person in that way  over differences of ideology in a computer game

This looks like an apology .......whether it was meant to be one directly or indirectly
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 15, 2018, 09:19:43 AM
This looks like an apology .......whether it was meant to be one directly or indirectly

Let's agree to call it an agreement not to use that joke further since unbeknownst to Vraciu and I it turned out to be true  :salute

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 10:20:54 AM
Bustr will have no apology because we are engaged in a dispute with him over ongoing differences of opinion over philosophies of gameplay and contributions to the game of Aces High into which he has given as much as he's taken. Vraciu and I will patiently wait for your apology however for accusing us of knowingly throwing Bustr's heart attacks into the mix, which was unfounded, untrue and slanderous.

Wow. Your pride won't even let you admit that you made a mistake and went too far by using Bustr's heart attacks as a 'valid dispute point' (it's not, even if you want to tell yourself that you thought it was 'innocent hyperbole'). You can maintain a 'dispute' and do so as a grown-up. What's truly amazing is that you're such a narcissist that you're demanding an apology from me for your bad behavior.

Huh.

Guess British manners and civility isn't a universal thing.

You could learn from Bustr. Not once did he fall for the flame-bait.

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 10:24:56 AM
Which would be wrong to do you say...



It's literally just a barrage of personal attacks on my character, insulting me with no reference or contribution to the topic under discussion or the ongoing argument between ACM-sharks versus Regular Joes. I'd understood this was not allowed on the forum. But whatever...

If you can't take what you readily dish out at other players (oops, I mean innocently 'joke' about) then perhaps you should modify your own behavior more than worry about mine.  You supposedly have control over that. :D
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 10:27:09 AM
Let's agree to call it an agreement not to use that joke further since unbeknownst to Vraciu and I it turned out to be true  :salute

It wasn't much of a 'joke.' It was a flame-bait you repeatedly used. There's a forum rule for that, as well, if you're gonna try and thread lawyer the situation, Mr. Cleese.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 15, 2018, 11:04:31 AM
Wow. Your pride won't even let you admit that you made a mistake and went too far by using Bustr's heart attacks

That's a pretty peculiar attempt at leverage. I don't see the need to apologise for sustaining a relevant ongoing satirical commentary made in ignorance of the fact that Bustr had actually had heart attacks. Further both Vraciu and I acknowledged it was bad form to continue doing that when we found out. I think I also indicated I wouln't wish a heart attack or associated suffering on anyone - or words to that effect. I just guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this fine (but slightly irrelevant) point.

Did you have anything to say about the body of the discussion around which this derailment has happened?


If you can't take what you readily dish out at other players (oops, I mean innocently 'joke' about) then perhaps you should modify your own behavior more than worry about mine.

Can't take what, you throwing everything you've got trying to get an emotional reaction while claiming you're merely defending an innocent party? Like I mentioned, it seems to me you're simply trolling me for personal reasons. I don't really feel the need to address any of that. <shrug>


Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 11:05:06 AM
Upon reflection.

I offer a complete and utter retraction. The imputation was totally without basis in fact, and was in no way fair comment, and was motivated purely by malice, and I deeply regret any distress that my comments may have caused you, or your family, and I hereby undertake not to repeat any such slander at any time in the future. Your commentary on this forum has always been completely above board an beyond impeachment. Everything you have ever posted has been productive and beneficial to the community. My apology to you is sincere and without external pressure. You set an almost puritanical example for all to follow. Your brilliance can only be overshadowed by your flawless character. The amount of true insight as well as benefit to this community that you offer is without compare. I can only hope to become a pale imitation of you someday. May my apology, in some small manner, lead to your gracious forgiveness even if I am surely unworthy of it.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 11:22:57 AM
Wow. Your pride won't even let you admit that you made a mistake and went too far by using Bustr's heart attacks as a 'valid dispute point' (it's not, even if you want to tell yourself that you thought it was 'innocent hyperbole').



Point of Order.   One would have to KNOW ABOUT IT to use it in a willful manner. 


Carry on.




Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: CptTrips on September 15, 2018, 11:40:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwfuUyTMpVY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwfuUyTMpVY)
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 15, 2018, 11:58:31 AM
Upon reflection.

I hope your tactical adaptation is more rapid in a dogfight. Otherwise you'll never become an ACM-shark.


Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: AHPoker on September 15, 2018, 01:25:43 PM
Can we do a 24hr test with only 2 countries in the main arena, please? I would resub for that, knowing I could easily find a fight any time of day. :)

I'd like to see only 2 countries forever.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: AHPoker on September 15, 2018, 01:27:37 PM
Could they write in ENY to stay on if there is a huge disparity even during low numbers.   

Turning it off with low numbers while things are balanced is fine.

Do away with ENY completely. 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 01:30:44 PM
I hope your tactical adaptation is more rapid in a dogfight. Otherwise you'll never become an ACM-shark.

Thank you ...... Sensei. Your humble maturity as well as your situational awareness is a fine example for all or us to admire. Castigat Rindendo Mores.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 01:33:52 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Ciaphas on September 15, 2018, 01:36:56 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 15, 2018, 02:06:52 PM
I started to reply with a quite lengthy response that argued that both bustr and nrshida are appreciated for both their contributions to the game in their own different ways

But erased it because of all the other side/hijacking BS and arguing between brick walls .....

Might as well lock this thread and let it sink with the rest of locked threads



TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 02:18:22 PM
ENY being disabled for low numbers directly addresses the main argument for its removal - player switching in the slightest with low numbers is unfair. Now that HiTech has offered such a reminder, that argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 15, 2018, 03:23:38 PM
Has anyone asked if low numbers in the main arena could be practically coded to automatically trigger an arena reset to a small map, yet (no map winner, no perks awarded)? Practicality in the code would obviously be key. Incidentally, if it could be done .... and was done .... I'd give it less than 90 days for a complaint thread to be written about it.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 15, 2018, 03:29:02 PM
Love your sig quote, Arlo...... been along time ago since I last saw that.....

~S~

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 04:20:31 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 04:21:17 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Puma44 on September 15, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
(https://s33.postimg.cc/3tfxqzstr/BBBBCAA9-050_E-4471-_BBE5-920_C589327_BE.png) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: flippz on September 15, 2018, 04:57:48 PM
1000 likes for shida the sinsei

agree 1000% with any and all rebuttles

I read nothing bustr types or vracui

but do read all that shida types, and as I know everything you minnions should follow suit
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Max on September 15, 2018, 06:40:21 PM
1000 likes for shida the sinsei

agree 1000% with any and all rebuttles

I read nothing bustr types or vracui

but do read all that shida types, and as I know everything you minnions should follow suit


Now where did I leave my Flippz decoder ring???? :headscratch:
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
1000 likes for shida the sinsei

agree 1000% with any and all rebuttles

I read nothing bustr types or vracui

but do read all that shida types, and as I know everything you minnions should follow suit

I saw Lippz in a movie once.  It was called DELIVERANCE.    :ahand :devil
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 07:54:18 PM

Now where did I leave my Flippz decoder ring???? :headscratch:

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 :cheers:

He also spelled VRACULA wrong.    :neener:
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: BOBO on September 15, 2018, 08:32:55 PM
I saw Lippz in a movie once.  It was called DELIVERANCE.    :ahand :devil

That was a good documentary. 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Oldman731 on September 15, 2018, 08:48:19 PM
That was a good documentary.


heh.

- oldman
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: lunaticfringe on September 15, 2018, 11:00:19 PM
if eny was disabled for low player count--then why on Friday night sep-14th at 2am central--30 players with rooks having a few more players the Knights and bish did rooks have 7.9 eny?   hmmm
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 15, 2018, 11:04:07 PM
if eny was disabled for low player count--then why on Friday night sep-14th at 2am central--30 players with rooks having a few more players the Knights and bish did rooks have 7.9 eny?   hmmm

Because "low" is a nebulous concept.   Low to one man is high to another.  That's why people keep talking about this subject despite the dismissal of the issue by some...  My personal feeling is, and has been for some time, that the ENY "ramp" is too steep too soon.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 16, 2018, 01:11:22 AM
Because "low" is a nebulous concept.   Low to one man is high to another.  That's why people keep talking about this subject despite the dismissal of the issue by some...  My personal feeling is, and has been for some time, that the ENY "ramp" is too steep too soon.

Your reckless use of 'people' and 'some' is rather non-specific yet off-putting. As is LF's use of 'a few more' despite posting very precise details, otherwise. :D

Let's ignore, for a second, that the category 'other' very obviously includes the unnamed game producer/owner (even though that person hasn't 'dismissed' the subject, out of hand, at all - as evidenced by Shida's thread title). Some (all, any, one, you ,me, he/she/it?) ... simply don't know to what degree it has been addressed yet find whatever that degree is to be personally unsatisfactory. Did 100% of the player population (of 30 - or so) recently change sides (making every one of them powerless to affect their personal situation)? Seems rather unlikely. Apparently, this example includes a degree of probability of personal selfishness, spread throughout the Rook players (if not all), that all, or some, or at least one, chooses to ignore. Granted, some, or at least one (of the community, not necessarily one of the players involved in the arena on Friday night, September 14th at 2 a.m. U.S. central time 2018), have (has) advocated the complete elimination of side switch lime limitation which would supposedly be the most effective solution. Some (I) are (am) not convinced, given the example at hand without the percent of switch included (even factoring in deliberate spoilers).

Attempts to convince ... some ... that their individual situation might improve if they affect a change that may involve, oh, I dunno, switching sides (which is allowed, within side switching time constraints) is rejected, not out of hand, per say but as an action ... some ... may find equally unsatisfactory. Does this include all thirty players? Some? One (just enough to voice their dissatisfaction on the forum)?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 16, 2018, 01:14:28 AM
 :uhoh DO WHAAA :headscratch: Kidding,I think :devil
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 16, 2018, 01:56:43 AM
Might as well lock this thread and let it sink with the rest of locked threads

Thread couldn't even get started because of the ambiguity of this topic being in the same consequential category as how the 12-hour rule protest was handled even before the poo-slinger(s) showed up. I don't think a fair side balancing can be achieved with ENY, side-switching time limits etc. etc. New tools would be needed with the present numbers and disposition of the remaining MA population. Actually considering the latter I don't think it can be accomplished at all.

 :salute



Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 16, 2018, 02:01:04 AM
Arlo, you could have just kept it short, LOL

Something like......

"The Annals of Mathematics"


Cheers

TC
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 16, 2018, 02:07:06 AM
You had a chance to ask that of Shida in your TE thread, I believe.

Sensei to you.

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 16, 2018, 02:08:57 AM
He immediately used it as an opportunity to go low and take an 'innocent' shot at Bustr.

We can just agree to disagree what constitutes a low blow.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 16, 2018, 02:13:34 AM
Thread couldn't even get started because of the ambiguity of this topic being in the same consequential category as how the 12-hour rule protest was handled even before the poo-slinger(s) showed up. I don't think a fair side balancing can be achieved with ENY, side-switching time limits etc. etc. New tools would be needed with the present numbers and disposition of the remaining MA population. Actually considering the latter I don't think it can be accomplished at all.

 :salute





I don't know, I do understand that for the players that are only able to play AH3 at certain times of the day, do have it rough ..... and although it has been a long time ago for myself having/being able to fly in that time frame, I can relate to the undesirable conditions that could possibly pop up

~S~



if eny was disabled for low player count--then why on Friday night sep-14th at 2am central--30 players with rooks having a few more players the Knights and bish did rooks have 7.9 eny?   hmmm

Not enough imperical data to prove your hypothesis
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 16, 2018, 02:15:57 AM
Never-the-less, I can surely make one more attempt at it (I've made multiple overtures).

Excellent. Arlo's going to make a game-saving MA map. I'm sure a single carrier group atop a 30k caldera tightly surrounded by island airbases at sea level while GVs fight it out in subterranian caves will have new players flooding in. I eagerly await the opprotunity to 'watch and act impressed'.   (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/notworthy.gif)


Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 16, 2018, 02:17:45 AM
That was a good documentary.

 :eek: :rofl
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 16, 2018, 02:18:32 AM
He also spelled VRACULA wrong.    :neener:


Love it, he shall henceforth be known amongst our people as Vracula  :rock

Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 16, 2018, 02:22:12 AM
Arlo, you could have just kept it short, LOL

Something like......

"The Annals of Mathematics"


Cheers

TC

 :D

Game Theory is a Poli Sci course here.
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 16, 2018, 02:31:58 AM
Outside of Jet propulsion and mechanics, I've only studied Nuclear physics and Thermodynamics for both the Navy and my Civilian career before being forced to retire due to my physical disabilities and dementia issues that happened over time....

And trust me when I say you will lose it when you stop using it, over time....
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Arlo on September 16, 2018, 03:26:34 AM
And trust me when I say you will lose it when you stop using it, over time....

Here's to what we both have left. Let's make the most of it.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: 1stpar3 on September 16, 2018, 03:33:28 AM
 :uhoh

Love it, he shall henceforth be known amongst our people as Vracula  :rock
VRACULA? Does he suck blood..or something else?  :rofl :neener: Kidding Vraciu, just couldnt help myself :rofl 
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Max on September 16, 2018, 07:05:08 AM

Love it, he shall henceforth be known amongst our people as Vracula  :rock

He'll always be ACHOO to me  :old:
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 16, 2018, 09:21:19 AM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 16, 2018, 09:36:02 AM

Love it, he shall henceforth be known amongst our people as Vracula  :rock

Muhuhuahahahhahaha!   :rock
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 16, 2018, 09:37:56 AM
:uhohVRACULA? Does he suck blood..or something else?  :rofl :neener: Kidding Vraciu, just couldnt help myself :rofl

Boobies!   Lol
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: flippz on September 16, 2018, 02:45:42 PM

Love it, he shall henceforth be known amongst our people as Vracula  :rock

the others would get an instant lock
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Vraciu on September 16, 2018, 03:29:09 PM
the others would get an instant lock

 :ahand :ahand :ahand :ahand

I hear dueling banjos...   :devil

https://postimg.cc/pm4PKZM6 :rofl

(I have no idea who posted this but it's funny, you gotta' admit.)

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled thread train wreck.   :neener:  Are we having fun yet??????!!!!!!!   :D   Yikes, the Rule 4s are gonna’ get passed out like candy on Halloween.   :eek:

#VracFact

- Vracula
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: iikie on September 16, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
I don't know about that.  I went rook for a while about 3 years ago and a few of my former squadmates are just now starting to speak to me again.  I'm being serious here.

Now that's funny  :eek: :D
Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: nrshida on September 17, 2018, 12:46:33 AM
I went rook for a while about 3 years ago and a few of my former squadmates are just now starting to speak to me again.  I'm being serious here.

On average I swap sides once per session. The abuse PMs for swapping sides have no doubt increased. The numbers haven't dropped uniformly leaving a higher density of players fiercely loyal to an entirely arbitrary and contrived group that you can be fiercely loyalty to. The nature of the MA population has changed. The tools need to be (or needed to be) changed also <-sorry to use the C word there, I know a lot of people (left) here find that concept highly offensive  :)


I hear dueling banjos... 

Dueling, dueling??!??!? Where, where?  :banana:


Title: Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
Post by: Skuzzy on September 17, 2018, 11:14:12 AM
This is no longer providing anything useful.