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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: zack1234 on November 26, 2018, 02:54:21 PM

Title: VR
Post by: zack1234 on November 26, 2018, 02:54:21 PM
There seems to be a lot of updates for VR.

How many people have it and is it worth buying.

Been looking around and headsets are not cheap.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: FLS on November 26, 2018, 05:16:54 PM
If you don't mind the lower resolution compared to current monitors, it's worth it. Nobody likes the lower resolution but being "inside" the game generally makes up for it. Higher resolution will mean lower performance until PC's get a lot faster.

Smooth tracking is the most important VR feature and I believe the Rift is still the best choice for flight sims.

If you use it for a few years the cost/benefit is pretty good.

Title: Re: VR
Post by: The Fugitive on November 26, 2018, 09:08:33 PM
There seems to be a lot of updates for VR.

How many people have it and is it worth buying.

Been looking around and headsets are not cheap.

Hitech posted a graph of "players using VR" for 7-10 days. He cut off the player number scale so we dont "know" how many are using it, but due to the way the graph line was jumping around day to day, and the fact that Hitech cut the the player axis off it cant be many. Id guess that its under 20% and I think that is being generous.

VR is the next biggest thing. Its ok now, but in the next year or two it will most likely explode. The resolution and the price are the hurdles right now. Drop your resolution down to 800X600 and you'll get an idea of what it looks like. On the other hand the immersion even at that crappy resolution is said to be unbelievable.

Price wise, even now you can find deals on Facebook market place and Ebay for lightly used equipment. With the Christmas sales going on I can find new units for $350, $50 cheaper than last week. Used ones you can find for under $200.

What bothers me is this is the only game I play. Id hate to blow $400 on VR and have the game go in a dirrection I dont care for, or just close up and Im stuck with a $400 paper weight.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Vulcan on November 26, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
My first VR headsets were in the $2k range.

just to keep it in perspective.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: DaddyAce on November 26, 2018, 10:36:49 PM
I have an Oculus Rift and absolutely love the feeling of immersion.  AH3 is the only game I play, and I really only fly fighters, and occasionally man a gun or fly a buff.  Downsides are loss of resolution, and some aspects of SA (mostly due to smaller field of view), and it's a pain to use the keyboard.  But the feeling of actually being in the plane is amazing IMHO...no going back for me.  And I think some aspects of SA improve, eg it seems easier to see what other planes are doing, and I think my gunnery is better too.  Short answer for me, I love it.   :airplane:
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Max on November 28, 2018, 04:52:41 PM

What bothers me is this is the only game I play. Id hate to blow $400 on VR and have the game go in a dirrection I dont care for, or just close up and Im stuck with a $400 paper weight.

Amen
Title: Re: VR
Post by: BuckShot on November 30, 2018, 05:03:13 AM
If you usually use vr, do you have to spend lots of time reconfiguring things in ah to switch back to no vr or is it a simple as unplugging the goggles?
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Skuzzy on November 30, 2018, 07:02:35 AM
The game stores VR settings in their own config files.  You should be able to play either way and not have to mess with settings.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: DaddyAce on November 30, 2018, 10:45:56 AM
If you usually use vr, do you have to spend lots of time reconfiguring things in ah to switch back to no vr or is it a simple as unplugging the goggles?

....as Skuzzy says.  It's pretty simple.  For example, after a sortie, I often send/return salutes when I'm in the tower, because I can take my headset off and AH3 goes to full screen on my monitor, and it's easy to type messages.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: zack1234 on December 03, 2018, 03:00:49 PM
So a Warthog joystick or VR? :old:

Title: Re: VR
Post by: Shuffler on December 03, 2018, 03:37:44 PM
So a Warthog joystick or VR? :old:

Would you rather see a fuzzy planet or control your plane?
Title: Re: VR
Post by: flippz on December 03, 2018, 04:23:43 PM
So a Warthog joystick or VR? :old:
You would love it. As much as you fly I think you would enjoy it.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: DaddyAce on December 03, 2018, 06:01:43 PM
So a Warthog joystick or VR? :old:

I'd say good joystick, throttle, etc comes first, but If you feel your current control setup is working well for you, I'd recommend VR.   I was holding off for better resolution etc on the VR stuff, until a Rift showed up at my house courtesy of my son.  I was quickly awed by the immersive feel of the VR.  Now I'd have a hard time going back to monitor and TrackIR, and would feel like it was a step backward.  Similar to going to TrackIR, VR did take a bit of getting used too.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: atlau on December 04, 2018, 12:19:24 AM
Everything is kinda fuzzy in vr. Makes wirbles much more of a nuisance and long range shots more difficult. Judging angles and setting up deflection shots feels more natural though.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Vulcan on December 05, 2018, 01:10:55 PM
Everything is kinda fuzzy in vr. Makes wirbles much more of a nuisance and long range shots more difficult. Judging angles and setting up deflection shots feels more natural though.

I find I have better abilities at spotting GVs in VR vs legacy-pilots.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Skuzzy on December 05, 2018, 02:13:27 PM
Some of it is going to depend on which headset you are using. 
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Shuffler on December 05, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
Some of it is going to depend on which headset you are using.

Which is the best today? :)
Title: Re: VR
Post by: atlau on December 05, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
I find I have better abilities at spotting GVs in VR vs legacy-pilots.

Are your graphics turned all the way up in VR. I think i was above average at finding them at 1440p everything cranked up but now feel helpless even with the odyssey hmd resolution which is supposedly better than oculus.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Skuzzy on December 05, 2018, 08:45:05 PM
Which is the best today? :)

Depends on your measure of what is best.

Oculus Rift has the smoothest game play experience by far.  That is due to the superior software drivers they have.

Unfortunately, I can no longer recommend the Rift due to Facebook's handling of that business unit.  There is some speculation Facebook may just dump the Rift.

They appear to have cancelled the updated replacement for the Rift.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: atlau on December 05, 2018, 08:57:28 PM
Skuzzy is there a way to stop aces high from closing if the vr headset goes to sleep? Sometimes i take it off wheb cruising around or gving and then it shuts down with no warning
Title: Re: VR
Post by: danny76 on December 06, 2018, 04:42:53 PM
I bought an oculus rift dk2 for £47. It was still pretty much brand new with spare lenses/lens cloth/cables still in sealed bags. It runs astonishingly well on AH2. Took a week or so to get over the motion sickness but it's re-envigorated the game for me completely.
Title: Re: VR
Post by: Vulcan on December 07, 2018, 02:27:48 PM
Are your graphics turned all the way up in VR. I think i was above average at finding them at 1440p everything cranked up but now feel helpless even with the odyssey hmd resolution which is supposedly better than oculus.

Yup, but I have shadows and reflections turned off, don't like them.

Ask the nit GVers, I am always hanging out over GV fights in a 9T spotting and shoving the odd 37mm down the turret tops of t-34s :)

Title: Re: VR
Post by: atlau on December 07, 2018, 03:34:33 PM
Yrah i have those turned off too.

Just find that the pixels in vr are larger than the tanks when dive bombing from 5k plus
Title: Re: VR
Post by: zack1234 on December 08, 2018, 03:45:18 AM
I bought a LP120 record player instead to record my records to pc.

Seems like VR is going the way of force feedback joysticks

My CH kit still works fine

Pipz bought a warthog and said it was nice but overkill
Title: Re: VR
Post by: FLS on December 08, 2018, 08:53:24 AM
VR + FFB + Motion Simulation =  :D    :aok