General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lunaticfringe on April 23, 2019, 05:56:47 PM
Title: none of my business, But
Post by: lunaticfringe on April 23, 2019, 05:56:47 PM
has HiTech replaced the 2 employees he lost. just curious just wondering. no I don't want the job-barely know how to turn computer on. but aren't we all wondering. is HiTech gonna just let this game die or keep it going.
I know there are at least 300 open accounts. 3 weeks ago I logged on late and saw there were a little over 200 people in FSO with at least 100 ppl in Melee arena at the same time. but again none of my business.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: guncrasher on April 23, 2019, 07:21:53 PM
why dont you email him directly and let us know what happened.
semp
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: DLXIRON on April 23, 2019, 09:02:41 PM
Just from the ranking system in the Melee arena I would guess about 12-1500
Dougie
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Chalenge on April 23, 2019, 09:08:30 PM
I wouldn't bother speculating. This is home for many of us and that's not likely to change.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: The Fugitive on April 23, 2019, 09:50:09 PM
last month there were just over 900 players that failed to capture a base in a vehicle. How many "ties" that is I dont know, but my guess is there are less than 1000 "subscribed" players in the game. Of that 1000, how many only play scenarios, FSO, or just continue to send in their subscription money..... who knows.
FSO numbers are down, MA arena numbers are down on prime time evenings, Monday nights and Thursday night "events" have less people each week it seems. When was the last update? When was the last update the "War on Line"?
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Shuffler on April 23, 2019, 09:55:51 PM
last month there were just over 900 players that failed to capture a base in a vehicle. How many "ties" that is I dont know, but my guess is there are less than 1000 "subscribed" players in the game. Of that 1000, how many only play scenarios, FSO, or just continue to send in their subscription money..... who knows.
FSO numbers are down, MA arena numbers are down on prime time evenings, Monday nights and Thursday night "events" have less people each week it seems. When was the last update? When was the last update the "War on Line"?
You must be missing a lot.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: DLXIRON on April 23, 2019, 11:20:43 PM
last month there were just over 900 players that failed to capture a base in a vehicle. How many "ties" that is I dont know, but my guess is there are less than 1000 "subscribed" players in the game. Of that 1000, how many only play scenarios, FSO, or just continue to send in their subscription money..... who knows.
FSO numbers are down, MA arena numbers are down on prime time evenings, Monday nights and Thursday night "events" have less people each week it seems. When was the last update? When was the last update the "War on Line"?
just this friday we had more players on than normal. as for you saying numbers are down, they have been pretty much the same for 2 or 3 years. saying numbers are down from 8 years ago would be correct. just like it would be correct to say numbers are up from when the game started.
so I am excited numbers are up :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock.
semp
in addition to your guessing of number of players. 900 players didnt capture a base, so 99 players captured base, so you mean to say 99 players captured I dont know 30 or 40 bases per map and there were about 60 maps. making up numbers here, lol. man those fricking 99 guys really worked their butts to capture all the bases 24/7. less than a thousand players, kind of not really true. not sure how many but less than 1k...
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: AAIK on April 24, 2019, 06:45:56 AM
Back when the game started we had simpler and smaller maps (from my recollection). The stagnation of map making and player loss has compounded into a really nasty situation where players can't properly fill the maps. This position really puts the game in a not so ideal situation.
:old:
HT is capable of making the game grow.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: lunaticfringe on April 24, 2019, 10:10:17 AM
except for bowlMA-oceania-riftval-buzzsaw-the rest of the maps are the same maps from ah2 with then terrains changed-more trees and little villages-no barns no blown up houses-no berms
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: lunaticfringe on April 24, 2019, 10:12:39 AM
last month there were just over 900 players that failed to capture a base in a vehicle. How many "ties" that is I dont know, but my guess is there are less than 1000 "subscribed" players in the game. Of that 1000, how many only play scenarios, FSO, or just continue to send in their subscription money..... who knows.
FSO numbers are down, MA arena numbers are down on prime time evenings, Monday nights and Thursday night "events" have less people each week it seems. When was the last update? When was the last update the "War on Line"?
3 weeks ago I logged in after FSO had started there were a little over 200 people in FSO and 100 or so in Melee arena.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Shuffler on April 24, 2019, 12:45:11 PM
There was 160 in melee the other night.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Wiley on April 24, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
Honestly with the number of doomsayers on this forum I'm surprised it took this long.
Hitech, apparently we need reassurance, even though most of the guys that are concerned about it probably won't believe you no matter what you say.
Wiley.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Red37 on April 24, 2019, 12:56:15 PM
Anyone remember when AH did advertisements on History channel when the show Dog Fight's came out? Those were the days.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: bustr on April 24, 2019, 01:53:43 PM
Lunatic, You are passive aggressive attacking Hitech and his customers who are happy if you don't get any response from him. If he says nothing than you get to stir the pot and punish the current happy customers and help drive away potential customers since you aren't happy. If you don't get your happiness, no one will get their happiness while you hide behind: none of my business, But.....
You forgot Oceania, that's 3 terrains by me since 2016 and I'm working on a fourth. What have you done in all that time besides whine....
Yes you can salt random barns and buildings around in AH3, Waffle didn't create any with holes in them. Between mountain ranges I take time to experiment with cutting out only tiny bits of the village tile. Think of a quilt with complex fixed patterns and you are laying it down on the terrain then painting out only the tiny pattern you want from the lower left middle quadrant of the quilt. The tiles to paint the terrain are just 1x1mile or 2x2mile quilts that repeat with fixed N\S orientation. The real trick is to make them look random including a tiny 660x660ft spot from a village 2x2 tile. 660sq is the smallest unit I have to work with becasue that is the size of the polygons the terrain is composed of. So it's lots of experimentation just to make it look random and natural. And your whining is insulting......
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5kLHvh3/tileset91.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKcp2fGT/tileset92.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8TCL80Q/tileset96.jpg)
Mountains and fjords take time to create. Laid down the keel on this terrain 2-23-19.
(https://i.postimg.cc/26wPnP7j/tileset117.jpg)
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Lazerr on April 24, 2019, 02:40:20 PM
I love these threads and the replies they bring...
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: CptTrips on April 24, 2019, 03:04:55 PM
The OP was somewhat on track, id like to know what is going on with development, if any. I dont care for the WOP gig, the good dogfights it could offer used to happen here regularly, in the open sandbox. Ill keep paying and playing, i enjoy it on my downtime. No kids, pretty gravy work schedule, why not? A little buzz wouldnt hurt around here tho.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: bustr on April 24, 2019, 03:43:36 PM
In the past I've just politely asked how things are going and if Waffle is free to show some coming attractions.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Shuffler on April 24, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
The OP was somewhat on track, id like to know what is going on with development, if any. I dont care for the WOP gig, the good dogfights it could offer used to happen here regularly, in the open sandbox. Ill keep paying and playing, i enjoy it on my downtime. No kids, pretty gravy work schedule, why not? A little buzz wouldnt hurt around here tho.
Frozen Margaritas
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: BTPommyB on April 25, 2019, 05:13:07 AM
The small maps are the best, but they don't last long because they soon get won/lost. People are in the game to fight, big maps make that harder. The best map is the smallest. Someone told me it was the first that AH made. Could be a message in that. Get back to basics. I would hate this game to fail. Flying/driving 5 minutes or more to the action is just too long, when other games offer faster action. I wonder how many people like me log in, see a big map with 30 players and just log out, knowing it will be boring.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Easyscor on April 25, 2019, 07:06:37 AM
The small maps are the best, but they don't last long because they soon get won/lost. People are in the game to fight, big maps make that harder. The best map is the smallest. Someone told me it was the first that AH made. Could be a message in that. Get back to basics. I would hate this game to fail. Flying/driving 5 minutes or more to the action is just too long, when other games offer faster action. I wonder how many people like me log in, see a big map with 30 players and just log out, knowing it will be boring.
Really, you haven’t heard of Monday Night Madness in the AvA? Five minutes you say? I’d say that was inaccurate to begin with, unless you’re in the AvA on Monday evening and then it’s more like two or three minutes. Come join me as another target. The expertin will humble us both, repeatedly.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: popeye on April 25, 2019, 07:31:45 AM
Perfect waste of a good margarita! Rocks. Salt. Throw that ice out when you're done and make another! Frozen margarita. Bah! The Lite Beer of margaritas!
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Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: ACE on April 25, 2019, 08:55:35 AM
The small maps are the best, but they don't last long because they soon get won/lost. People are in the game to fight, big maps make that harder. The best map is the smallest. Someone told me it was the first that AH made. Could be a message in that. Get back to basics. I would hate this game to fail. Flying/driving 5 minutes or more to the action is just too long, when other games offer faster action. I wonder how many people like me log in, see a big map with 30 players and just log out, knowing it will be boring.
.
What Easycor said. Come git some!
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: The Fugitive on April 25, 2019, 11:10:49 AM
Really, you haven’t heard of Monday Night Madness in the AvA? Five minutes you say? I’d say that was inaccurate to begin with, unless you’re in the AvA on Monday evening and then it’s more like two or three minutes. Come join me as another target. The expertin will humble us both, repeatedly.
I think Pommy is from Australia so time wise "Monday Night Madness " isn't really an option for him.
Not every problem can be solved with what is available now, that is why games and game companies must evolve with the time. believe it or not, change can be a good thing.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: AAIK on April 25, 2019, 11:23:18 AM
Hey bustr, I know you like to show off your work and you know I am a constant critic of your work...
Your maps are beautiful works of art that are meticulously designed, crafted and made, they deserve to be exaulted in their own way: They express and share something that once existed in this game but those days are over and what we need now are the following:
- Small maps. - Clinical, mathematical and symmetric designs with no bias for any type of player (like the starcraft 2 designs). - Bases that are closest together as engine limits go (for intensity of encounters). - Tons of CVs with open water areas for large/multiple CV on CV encounters.
I have put several designs to paper but I lack your skill and ability bustr so I won't ever be able to make them real. All I can do is put something out there and hope someone catches it and uses it (I was always better at giving ideas then making them, even then my ideas wern't always good).
AH can grow again, HT can do it again.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: bustr on April 25, 2019, 01:57:00 PM
You get Hitech to allow 5x5 terrains in the MA and you will have what you think you want. I am building terrains for the MA by the rules he limits me to.
My last two terrains condensed the majority of feilds into a 6 sector diameter area and they resulted in constant activity during prime time USA. After that, no amount of formula is going to make anyone fight. BowlMA and Oceania have CV and battleship task groups out the wazoo. Riftval has a tiny central pond to keep task group transit time down really low to find the other task groups and have ship to ship combat. The players make sure the three task groups never see each other in that tiny central pond to my surprise. Guess I needed to make the pond even smaller to get ship combat out of the customers.
Most customers look at cv groups as movable airfields with big guns, not as an opportunity to have ship to ship furballs. I tested that premise on riftval by making the medium feilds on the central peninsulas of no strategic relevance. The customers still only use the task groups for assaulting them while avoiding contact with the other task groups.
Build a few terrains and try out your formulas, after 3 terrains myself, I've learned a lot more about the MA and how the customers utilize it than you have.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: guncrasher on April 25, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
for those who think smaller maps lead to more fights. guess you weren't there Tuesday at midnight. a free knights or bishops win the map with 10 players on. imagine how much faster it would have been with smaller maps.
semp
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: FESS67 on April 25, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
for those who think smaller maps lead to more fights. guess you weren't there Tuesday at midnight. a free knights or bishops win the map with 10 players on. imagine how much faster it would have been with smaller maps.
semp
Here is my thought. Large map + low population = ability to attack and take undefended bases. Therefore map ends.
If we took it to the extreme. Imagine if the map was only 2 sides with 1 base each, that is pretty much as small as it gets. 5 players a side it would be some fight and a decent amount of time before the bases changed hands.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vulcan on April 25, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
Here is my thought. Large map + low population = ability to attack and take undefended bases. Therefore map ends.
If we took it to the extreme. Imagine if the map was only 2 sides with 1 base each, that is pretty much as small as it gets. 5 players a side it would be some fight and a decent amount of time before the bases changed hands.
how many times do you need to be told no to two sides?
and what makes you think people will stay logged in to furball?
semp
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 25, 2019, 06:40:00 PM
how many times do you need to be told no to two sides?
and what makes you think people will stay logged in to furball?
semp
I'm still surprised that those who harp the 'two side' thing don't fly more in the AvA or events. yeah, I know .... limited plane set. But you sure have every participant involved.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: FESS67 on April 25, 2019, 06:47:08 PM
[sarcasm on]I'm surprised fess hasn't reported him for being racist[sarcasm off]
Vulcan, your attack on me in game was based on my ethnicity. You seem to think that is acceptable, I do not. After that incident I chose to play only under hider names rather than have to put up with another attack. I changed those names as soon as I could.
It was probably the beginning of the end for me in AH. I no longer have any active accounts. I am amazed you think your actions were ok.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: FESS67 on April 25, 2019, 06:50:53 PM
how many times do you need to be told no to two sides?
and what makes you think people will stay logged in to furball?
semp
I was not advocating 2 sides. It was an illustration of the smallest possible map. Your contention is smaller maps would get rolled quicker. My counter is smaller maps would force people to fight for captures rather than allow them to steamroll undefended bases
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: guncrasher on April 25, 2019, 06:57:39 PM
I was not advocating 2 sides. It was an illustration of the smallest possible map. Your contention is smaller maps would get rolled quicker. My counter is smaller maps would force people to fight for captures rather than allow them to steamroll undefended bases
I'm gonna tell you what I left out that night. there was a furball fight that was fun and those who wanted to take bases had their fun too. we all had fun.
semp
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: FESS67 on April 25, 2019, 07:05:50 PM
I'm gonna tell you what I left out that night. there was a furball fight that was fun and those who wanted to take bases had their fun too. we all had fun.
semp
Good everyone had fun. However, the map ended and ggst leads to the obvious question of how to keep the fun going for all parties without turning the maps over too quickly.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Lazerr on April 25, 2019, 07:38:22 PM
Good everyone had fun. However, the map ended and ggst leads to the obvious question of how to keep the fun going for all parties without turning the maps over too quickly.
offer free margaritas and tequila shots plus a good carne asada and campfire to sit around and tell stories.
semp
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 25, 2019, 08:26:50 PM
offer free margaritas and tequila shots plus a good carne asada and campfire to sit around and tell stories.
semp
For me the plan is beer, BBQ and bombs during TFT : Bavaria '45. :D
(Other than that, it's good to have the MA to practice whatever, whenever and I don't mind it being a challenge to see how to pull it off - fun in the MA, that is.) :uhoh
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vulcan on April 25, 2019, 08:47:26 PM
Vulcan, your attack on me in game was based on my ethnicity. You seem to think that is acceptable, I do not. After that incident I chose to play only under hider names rather than have to put up with another attack. I changed those names as soon as I could.
It was probably the beginning of the end for me in AH. I no longer have any active accounts. I am amazed you think your actions were ok.
Well for someone who has left the game you spend a lot of time still whinging about it - unfair whinging imho.
And I don't accept that I attacked you. In fact it has been determined in an Australian court of law that the term pommy is not racist.
There are a couple of people in this game who spend a disproportionate amount of time whinging on #200. You were one of them, fugitive is the other. I called you out on that, you didn't like it.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 25, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
Isn't a 'pommy' just a 'limey?'
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: FESS67 on April 25, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
Well for someone who has left the game you spend a lot of time still whinging about it - unfair whinging imho.
And I don't accept that I attacked you. In fact it has been determined in an Australian court of law that the term pommy is not racist.
There are a couple of people in this game who spend a disproportionate amount of time whinging on #200. You were one of them, fugitive is the other. I called you out on that, you didn't like it.
You oversimplify the issue by omitting the context. If I referred to a New Zealander as a Kiwi then there woukd not be an issue. In the same manner, you referring to me as a pommy is not an issue.
However, 'you #$@& Kiwi scum why don't you #@$& off back home' takes on a totally different meaning. You used my ethnicity as an avenue of attack and I seriously doubt the NZ courts would support you in that instance.
As for me being active on the forums, why is that a problem? I encourage you to review my posts and you will see I have engaged in discussions to what I consider issues with gameplay. It is not whinging (and yes, I picked up on your use of that word as yet another dig at my birth place).
Perhaps follow your prime ministers lead and work towards more diversity acceptance not less.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vulcan on April 25, 2019, 09:42:22 PM
Except I never made such statements as the example you have used.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 25, 2019, 09:51:00 PM
Except I never made such statements as the example you have used.
So you just brought up my nationality for....ummm..?????? Of course it was to be a good multicultural citizen right? Why did you choose to continue the issue here in this thread several months later?
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vulcan on April 26, 2019, 12:41:01 AM
Because BTPommy?
Anyway, I dunno why everyone is climbing into Lunatic. He's a long time player and a great guy to play with.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: hitech on April 26, 2019, 03:21:28 PM
I have been working on integrating with This (https://okletsplay.com/)
HiTech
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Wiley on April 26, 2019, 03:48:16 PM
I have been working on integrating with This (https://okletsplay.com/)
HiTech
Looks interesting. Are you looking at in game micro transactions or an outright real cash outlay with some going to HTC as the host and the other going to the winners?
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: CptTrips on April 26, 2019, 04:28:28 PM
Openly making the game rely on gambling is a really edgy change (completes the circle as well).
Is it the only way to improve the game?
Let's bet on whether it does?
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 27, 2019, 04:31:37 AM
I wonder if this would cause WoP to fall under various gambling laws, both domestic and foreign.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Lazerr on April 27, 2019, 08:33:52 AM
Summary..
People betting on fine arts of ACM, needed to win a dogfight for money. Like mentioned hundreds of times on these boards, this a niche genre game with a small audience. You really think people are going to go for this?
Just my opinion, but that will be a flop of thats the route you are going.
Now a small scale battle, where two teams battle to take a base or something, similar to team domination in other games, i could see something there. Small scale MA gameplay, the matches average times being somewhere between 30 minutes to an hour.
People betting on dogfighting as the sole objective... doubt it.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: FESS67 on April 27, 2019, 02:47:55 PM
People betting on fine arts of ACM, needed to win a dogfight for money. Like mentioned hundreds of times on these boards, this a niche genre game with a small audience. You really think people are going to go for this?
Just my opinion, but that will be a flop of thats the route you are going.
Now a small scale battle, where two teams battle to take a base or something, similar to team domination in other games, i could see something there. Small scale MA gameplay, the matches average times being somewhere between 30 minutes to an hour.
People betting on dogfighting as the sole objective... doubt it.
Uhoh Lazer now you gone mentioned small maps, 2 sides and limited gameplay in the same post!!! Take cover, there will be incoming rounds!!
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 27, 2019, 04:05:39 PM
People betting on fine arts of ACM, needed to win a dogfight for money. Like mentioned hundreds of times on these boards, this a niche genre game with a small audience. You really think people are going to go for this?
Just my opinion, but that will be a flop of thats the route you are going.
Now a small scale battle, where two teams battle to take a base or something, similar to team domination in other games, i could see something there. Small scale MA gameplay, the matches average times being somewhere between 30 minutes to an hour.
People betting on dogfighting as the sole objective... doubt it.
Would work great in the match play, then just have a separate DA all together.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 27, 2019, 04:08:05 PM
Then somebody complains about cheating and demands their money back and then someone else does and it's one big not-worth-it mess.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: BowHTR on April 27, 2019, 04:15:46 PM
"Jaye refuses your bet, and increases it to $50. You accept these new terms. Jaye then turns on his new wall hack/aimbot that was just written 2 days ago and the Valve Anti Cheap hasn't caught up yet. You get ponaed. You cry. Let's bet finds out that Jaye is using a Prepaid Mastercard, and a gamer specific VPN like Mudfish. Let's bet tells you to get out your tough poop card, as they need to punch it for you. You then receive an email asking you if you'd like to play/bet again."
Still, so long as nefarious players could be kept out, I could see some players that would like this, as any competitive endeavor changes and becomes more intense once some $ is on the line. I do wonder about how many guys whine/flip out when they just plain die, then imagine adding losing money into the equation. Worth a lot of laughs on the forum, if nothing else, should this come to pass.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Lazerr on April 27, 2019, 09:02:00 PM
Would work great in the match play, then just have a separate DA all together.
No it wont.. nobody will do it.
Those that come in and are green players get spanked in their first 50 matches, cry hack or whatever when skilled vets kill them.. then they move on, disgruntled.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vraciu on April 27, 2019, 11:09:13 PM
I think Hitech would get more bang for his buck by developing a walkthrough overlay for noobs which shows them how to do everything. I lost count of how many players I’ve seen stuck at the spawn firing their guns into the air or ground looped off the side of the runway doing the same. They can’t type. They can’t talk. They’re utterly lost and after a few minutes they disappear for good.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: The Fugitive on April 27, 2019, 11:12:20 PM
I think Hitech would get more bang for his buck by developing a walkthrough overlay for noobs which shows them how to do everything. I lost count of how many players I’ve seen stuck at the spawn firing their guns into the air or ground looped off the side of the runway doing the same. They can’t type. They can’t talk. They’re utterly lost and after a few minutes they disappear for good.
Agreed. I think he is just wasting time on another idea that isn't going to help the game in any way..... much like the time spent in making the stars in the sky right :rolleyes:
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Max on April 28, 2019, 07:19:02 AM
I think Hitech would get more bang for his buck by developing a walkthrough overlay for noobs which shows them how to do everything. I lost count of how many players I’ve seen stuck at the spawn firing their guns into the air or ground looped off the side of the runway doing the same. They can’t type. They can’t talk. They’re utterly lost and after a few minutes they disappear for good.
+1
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: 8thJinx on April 28, 2019, 07:44:15 AM
I lost count of how many players I’ve seen stuck at the spawn firing their guns into the air or ground looped off the side of the runway doing the same. They can’t type. They can’t talk. They’re utterly lost and after a few minutes they disappear for good.
I was one of those new players, but I stuck it out. Took me a good couple weeks of playing offline before I had the stones to enter the main arena again. And even then, I was basically cannon fodder for a good year or so. Took me almost a full year before I could shoot down more than one plane in a sortie.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vraciu on April 28, 2019, 07:57:34 AM
I was one of those new players, but I stuck it out. Took me a good couple weeks of playing offline before I had the stones to enter the main arena again. And even then, I was basically cannon fodder for a good year or so. Took me almost a full year before I could shoot down more than one plane in a sortie.
Yeah, but guys like you who are willing to stick it out in the face of being hopelessly lost are less than one percent of the people who try the game.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Shuffler on April 28, 2019, 09:33:43 AM
Many in today's world have no gumption.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vraciu on April 28, 2019, 11:14:21 AM
True. However, had I discovered this game at my current age rather than when I was much younger my patience would have worn thin real quick.
Funny, from what I've seen in both AW and AH the opposite appears to be the case with most players. Adult air combat and WWII aficionados tend to build their hobbies around interests they spent years building already. Most kids of the internet/instant gratification era tend not to have the 'stick-to-it-ivness' to waste too much time learning and appreciating the intricacies of the game. Those that do are the exception, not the rule.
When I joined the AW community in `96 I was 34. Someone in the community took an unofficial poll in the BigWeek newsgroup to determine the average age of the community and it hit right at my age. I recall someone doing the same, recently, in AH and it seems that average age ages right along with me.
Don't get me wrong. I encourage youth to embrace the same interests and hobbies I have and it's a delight to see such in younger individuals. A very rare delight. But most of them do not have a 'thick and resilient' kind of patience when it comes to sticking with something that requires more effort than point and click.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Zimme83 on April 28, 2019, 12:23:59 PM
Most games have a learning curve and i dont think AH is extreme in that case, Especially not the ground war part. The problem with AH is that it havent had any influx of new players for several years because almost noone have even heard of the game. And any new player, especially outside US, will find an almost empty arena with nothing going on and quickly come to the conclusion that the game isnt worth the money.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Lazerr on April 28, 2019, 12:49:12 PM
And allowing players to bet on the game is going to help the situation how?
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: The Fugitive on April 28, 2019, 01:09:24 PM
Most games have a learning curve and i dont think AH is extreme in that case, Especially not the ground war part. The problem with AH is that it havent had any influx of new players for several years because almost noone have even heard of the game. And any new player, especially outside US, will find an almost empty arena with nothing going on and quickly come to the conclusion that the game isnt worth the money.
Or when they do find a fight they have no clue as to how/what to do and again they leave.
Funny, from what I've seen in both AW and AH the opposite appears to be the case with most players. Adult air combat and WWII aficionados tend to build their hobbies around interests they spent years building already. Most kids of the internet/instant gratification era tend not to have the 'stick-to-it-ivness' to waste too much time learning and appreciating the intricacies of the game. Those that do are the exception, not the rule.
When I joined the AW community in `96 I was 34. Someone in the community took an unofficial poll in the BigWeek newsgroup to determine the average age of the community and it hit right at my age. I recall someone doing the same, recently, in AH and it seems that average age ages right along with me.
Don't get me wrong. I encourage youth to embrace the same interests and hobbies I have and it's a delight to see such in younger individuals. A very rare delight. But most of them do not have a 'thick and resilient' kind of patience when it comes to sticking with something that requires more effort than point and click.
I spent the first part of my life focusing and studying to achieve my goals. My attention span and patience have worn extremely thin since to the point I grow bored very fast.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Max on April 28, 2019, 04:54:54 PM
I spent the first part of my life focusing and studying to achieve my goals. My attention span and patience have worn extremely thin since to the point I grow bored very fast.
We never have our morning chats over Maxwell House any more :(
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 28, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
I spent the first part of my life focusing and studying to achieve my goals. My attention span and patience have worn extremely thin since to the point I grow bored very fast.
That's too bad. Don't get that way in the cockpit.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vulcan on April 28, 2019, 06:01:30 PM
Most games have a learning curve and i dont think AH is extreme in that case, Especially not the ground war part. The problem with AH is that it havent had any influx of new players for several years because almost noone have even heard of the game. And any new player, especially outside US, will find an almost empty arena with nothing going on and quickly come to the conclusion that the game isnt worth the money.
One of my kids is going hard on the game at the moment, he's finding the learning curve steep and gets most of his info from ingame players. He finds the arenas fine (NZ, we are on GMT+12).
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 28, 2019, 06:07:35 PM
One of my kids is going hard on the game at the moment, he's finding the learning curve steep and gets most of his info from ingame players. He finds the arenas fine (NZ, we are on GMT+12).
How old is that kid? Just curious. It may revive hope in me.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vraciu on April 28, 2019, 07:00:21 PM
"Jaye refuses your bet, and increases it to $50. You accept these new terms. Jaye then turns on his new wall hack/aimbot that was just written 2 days ago and the Valve Anti Cheap hasn't caught up yet. You get ponaed. You cry. Let's bet finds out that Jaye is using a Prepaid Mastercard, and a gamer specific VPN like Mudfish. Let's bet tells you to get out your tough poop card, as they need to punch it for you. You then receive an email asking you if you'd like to play/bet again."
Still, so long as nefarious players could be kept out, I could see some players that would like this, as any competitive endeavor changes and becomes more intense once some $ is on the line. I do wonder about how many guys whine/flip out when they just plain die, then imagine adding losing money into the equation. Worth a lot of laughs on the forum, if nothing else, should this come to pass.
Asymmetrical collision whining is going to need its own subforum. Also client authoritative game + online gambling =... Yeah.
Wiley.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vraciu on April 29, 2019, 10:07:08 AM
How old is that kid? Just curious. It may revive hope in me.
My son was self-taught around age seven. He picked out some games for his birthday. I installed them and left him to his own devices. Before I knew it he was doing offline NOE raids in G4Ms, jumping from gunner to gunner and pilot to bombardier like a duck to water. I had to have him show me how Warbirds worked. :rofl
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: fd ski on April 29, 2019, 01:37:58 PM
euro times are pretty empty those days :(
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Shuffler on April 29, 2019, 04:37:22 PM
Riftval has a tiny central pond to keep task group transit time down really low to find the other task groups and have ship to ship combat. The players make sure the three task groups never see each other in that tiny central pond to my surprise. Guess I needed to make the pond even smaller to get ship combat out of the customers.
The task groups rarely leave the vicinity of their respective ports because the risks outweigh the rewards on the strategic level. The strength of TGs is stealth, and on Rift everyone knows where the CV group is or must be. A CV group is much more valuable used in defense of its port under these circumstances. Making the pond smaller would make no difference unless, like on the Fester map, the CVs were forced to fight upon spawn-in. But that would probably require a larger map than current player numbers suggest would be optimal.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Arlo on April 29, 2019, 05:19:58 PM
Lunatic, You are passive aggressive attacking Hitech and his customers who are happy if you don't get any response from him. If he says nothing than you get to stir the pot and punish the current happy customers and help drive away potential customers since you aren't happy. If you don't get your happiness, no one will get their happiness while you hide behind: none of my business, But.....
You forgot Oceania, that's 3 terrains by me since 2016 and I'm working on a fourth. What have you done in all that time besides whine....
Bustr I'm not attacking anyone just asking a question--and I did list Oceania if you put you're glasses on and read my post again
Yes you can salt random barns and buildings around in AH3, Waffle didn't create any with holes in them. Between mountain ranges I take time to experiment with cutting out only tiny bits of the village tile. Think of a quilt with complex fixed patterns and you are laying it down on the terrain then painting out only the tiny pattern you want from the lower left middle quadrant of the quilt. The tiles to paint the terrain are just 1x1mile or 2x2mile quilts that repeat with fixed N\S orientation. The real trick is to make them look random including a tiny 660x660ft spot from a village 2x2 tile. 660sq is the smallest unit I have to work with becasue that is the size of the polygons the terrain is composed of. So it's lots of experimentation just to make it look random and natural. And your whining is insulting......
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5kLHvh3/tileset91.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKcp2fGT/tileset92.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8TCL80Q/tileset96.jpg)
Mountains and fjords take time to create. Laid down the keel on this terrain 2-23-19.
(https://i.postimg.cc/26wPnP7j/tileset117.jpg)
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: lunaticfringe on April 30, 2019, 08:55:34 PM
Lunatic, You are passive aggressive attacking Hitech and his customers who are happy if you don't get any response from him. If he says nothing than you get to stir the pot and punish the current happy customers and help drive away potential customers since you aren't happy. If you don't get your happiness, no one will get their happiness while you hide behind: none of my business, But.....
You forgot Oceania, that's 3 terrains by me since 2016 and I'm working on a fourth. What have you done in all that time besides whine....
Yes you can salt random barns and buildings around in AH3, Waffle didn't create any with holes in them. Between mountain ranges I take time to experiment with cutting out only tiny bits of the village tile. Think of a quilt with complex fixed patterns and you are laying it down on the terrain then painting out only the tiny pattern you want from the lower left middle quadrant of the quilt. The tiles to paint the terrain are just 1x1mile or 2x2mile quilts that repeat with fixed N\S orientation. The real trick is to make them look random including a tiny 660x660ft spot from a village 2x2 tile. 660sq is the smallest unit I have to work with becasue that is the size of the polygons the terrain is composed of. So it's lots of experimentation just to make it look random and natural. And your whining is insulting......
(https://i.postimg.cc/L5kLHvh3/tileset91.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKcp2fGT/tileset92.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8TCL80Q/tileset96.jpg)
Mountains and fjords take time to create. Laid down the keel on this terrain 2-23-19.
(https://i.postimg.cc/26wPnP7j/tileset117.jpg)
Bustr what in the heck are you talking about? I'm not whining about anything-I'm asking a simple question-HiTech doesn't have to answer to anything I ask-I was just curious. how am I ruining anything, I haven't said anything about anybody. and how am I driving away potential customers. I love this game always have and always will. unless my computer-internet goes out or I can no longer pay to play. and I like your terrains-and I have told you that.
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Re: none of my business, But
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2019, 06:45:56 AM »
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Back when the game started we had simpler and smaller maps (from my recollection). The stagnation of map making and player loss has compounded into a really nasty situation where players can't properly fill the maps. This position really puts the game in a not so ideal situation.
:old:
I assumed he meant AH3. except for your 3 maps and Buzzsaw- the rest of the maps we have are from AH2 except for terrain changes, I was wishing we had some of the stuff AH2 terrains had here in AH3 terrains. but like I said I will still play them.
you want to jump on somebody throwing discontent-look at Fugitive-it's like he can't wait for AH3 to shut down to somehow prove him right. he's the Doomsayer jump on him. Riftval is the best terrain/map yet.
but I don't give a flip if you make another map or not-it's solely up to you-and I will play it, if I like it or not.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: lunaticfringe on April 30, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
I have been working on integrating with This (https://okletsplay.com/)
HiTech
I meant no disrespect HiTech.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: lunaticfringe on April 30, 2019, 09:32:48 PM
last week we had a new player-said he was going to quit and unload the game, me and another player went to help him to get flying again-and he did-2 hours later he said he was quitting because he ran out of ammo, I explained to him he had to be frugal with his ammo because he can run out, he logged out. a couple of days later he came back-he quit again after about an hour-called the game stupid and logged out.
what can you do?
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Shuffler on April 30, 2019, 10:26:04 PM
last week we had a new player-said he was going to quit and unload the game, me and another player went to help him to get flying again-and he did-2 hours later he said he was quitting because he ran out of ammo, I explained to him he had to be frugal with his ammo because he can run out, he logged out. a couple of days later he came back-he quit again after about an hour-called the game stupid and logged out.
what can you do?
Stupid people are a protected species so there are many more around today.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Oldman731 on May 01, 2019, 06:14:02 AM
last week we had a new player-said he was going to quit and unload the game, me and another player went to help him to get flying again-and he did-2 hours later he said he was quitting because he ran out of ammo, I explained to him he had to be frugal with his ammo because he can run out, he logged out. a couple of days later he came back-he quit again after about an hour-called the game stupid and logged out.
what can you do?
Give him a lollipop and turn on Sesame Street...?
- oldman
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: Vraciu on May 01, 2019, 06:43:11 AM
My son at age 7 was playing games like this rather than Sesame Street. :D
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: SmokinLoon on May 03, 2019, 08:34:33 AM
I've been a paying supporter since Jan of 2008.... there are months that go by that I don't play AH. Regardless, I support the project and ongoing development of the best WW2 flight modeling available.
AH isn't going anywhere.
Title: Re: none of my business, But
Post by: CptTrips on May 09, 2019, 02:17:29 PM