General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Brooke on March 07, 2020, 05:59:50 PM
Title: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 07, 2020, 05:59:50 PM
Four P-47 pilots needed for the US 9th Air Force.
Three Typhoon pilots needed for the RAF 2nd Tactical Air Force.
In the glorious battle "To Win the Winter Sky", running Saturdays in May.
Please join us to clear the Luftwaffe out over the Ardennes forest.
Registration is here: https://ahevents.net/index.php/events/scenarios/current-or-next-scenario
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Arlo on March 07, 2020, 07:48:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7sJdITE.png)
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 08, 2020, 01:40:30 AM
I am obliged, out of a sense of fair play, to warn our opponents -- the evil Luftwaffe -- that Arlo is flying with me on the side of goodness and light.
We need but a few P-47 and Typhoon pilots to join us in our campaign against villainy.
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Arlo on March 08, 2020, 06:28:06 AM
I am obliged, out of a sense of fair play, to warn our opponents -- the evil Luftwaffe -- that Arlo is flying with me on the side of goodness and light.
I thought you were recruiting not encouraging the baddies. :D
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: save on March 08, 2020, 10:51:03 AM
In melee arena you need 3 Fw190a8 to kill one B26 and expect to lose all 3. No escorts needed, they both turn better and outclimbs you at 26k :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Arlo on March 08, 2020, 01:17:21 PM
In melee arena you need 3 Fw190a8 to kill one B26 and expect to lose all 3. No escorts needed, they both turn better and outclimbs you at 26k :rolleyes:
I expect you to fully vet that hypothesis in the scenario. :D
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: save on March 08, 2020, 03:59:56 PM
I expect you to fully vet that hypothesis in the scenario. :D
Unfortunately, since Melee arena have been very empty in my TZ, sometimes with large maps (and Buzzaw), I and 2 other squad mates (Bozon and Alskahwk) unsubscribed.
The reason I stayed as long as I did was thanks to Brooke, and others running these scenarios at Euro-friendly TZ !
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Arlo on March 08, 2020, 04:07:16 PM
Unfortunately, since Melee arena have been very empty in my TZ, sometimes with large maps (and Buzzaw), I and 2 other squad mates (Bozon and Alskahwk) unsubscribed.
The reason I stayed as long as I did was thanks to Brooke, and others running these scenarios at Euro-friendly TZ !
I'm sure he would appreciate your actual support of this event even though you unsubbed, then. Discouraging Luftwaffe participation is counter-productive without recommending a viable option that would, in turn, mitigate the situation. :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: TWCAxew on March 08, 2020, 05:09:26 PM
@Save I am really sorry to hear you unsubscribed :salute
"on the side of goodness and light."*Kugh, Kugh...*
Fly AXIS
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 09, 2020, 02:10:01 AM
In melee arena you need 3 Fw190a8 to kill one B26 and expect to lose all 3. No escorts needed, they both turn better and outclimbs you at 26k :rolleyes:
In scenarios, 190A-8's and 109G's do just fine. Many examples are given below. Maybe it is that 999000 isn't the typical gunner in scenarios, who knows.
Clu 14:57:19 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 15:22:00 Helps FLOOB shoot down Ozone. <-- B-26 15:22:13 Helps FLOOB shoot down Ozone.<-- B-26 15:23:15 Helps Ditto shoot down Ozone.<-- B-26 15:25:34 Shot down a B-26B flown by Flossy.<-- B-26 15:26:19 Arrived Safely at Field #95 16:03:15 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 16:11:34 Shot down a B-26B flown by swoose.<-- B-26 16:12:07 Shot down a B-26B flown by swoose.<-- B-26 16:12:34 Shot down a B-26B flown by Ozone.<-- B-26
FLOOB 14:30:55 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 14:46:44 Helps Atrack shoot down APDrone.<-- B-26 14:47:14 Helps JoeJoe shoot down Flossy.<-- B-26 14:56:31 Arrived Safely at Field #90 14:57:18 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 15:16:26 Helps SNO shoot down APDrone.<-- B-26 15:16:51 Helps perdweeb shoot down swoose.<-- B-26 15:22:00 Shot down a B-26B flown by Ozone.<-- B-26 15:22:13 Shot down a B-26B flown by Ozone.<-- B-26 16:41:38 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 17:18:54 Helps KoW shoot down Joker.<-- B-26 17:19:10 Helps Snibbo shoot down OOZ662.<-- B-26 17:20:09 Shot down a B-26B flown by Ozone.<-- B-26 17:21:56 Shot down a B-26B flown by Ozone.<-- B-26
KoW 14:30:54 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 14:50:51 Helps perdweeb shoot down APDrone. <-- B-26 14:55:13 Arrived Safely at Field #89 14:57:16 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 15:17:23 Shot down a B-26B flown by OOZ662.<-- B-26 15:17:33 Shot down a B-26B flown by OOZ662.<-- B-26 15:22:00 Helps FLOOB shoot down Ozone.<-- B-26 15:23:07 Was shot down by APDrone (exploded). 16:04:29 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 16:12:13 Shot down a B-26B flown by APDrone.<-- B-26 16:14:00 Helps SNO shoot down APDrone.<-- B-26 16:15:13 Was shot down by ULTactus (crashed). 16:44:22 Departed from Field #91 in a Fw 190A-5 17:18:54 Shot down a B-26B flown by Joker. <-- B-26
Dantoo 14:31:20 Departed from Field #91 in a Bf 109G-6 14:46:27 Shot down a B-26B flown by Ozone.<-- B-26 14:46:27 Shot down a B-26B flown by Flossy.<-- B-26 14:46:30 Shot down a B-26B flown by swoose.<-- B-26 14:46:44 Helps Atrack shoot down APDrone.<-- B-26 14:50:51 Helps perdweeb shoot down APDrone.<-- B-26 14:54:30 Arrived Safely at Field #90
Examples from Pantelleria:
DaddyAce 15:53:17 Departed from Field #26 in a Bf 109G-2 16:13:27 Shot down a B-26B flown by Popsman.<-- B-26 16:13:59 Shot down a B-26B flown by Popsman.<-- B-26 16:14:49 Shot down a B-26B flown by Popsman.<-- B-26 16:16:43 Was shot down by bgoldy (exploded).
Roodalf 14:42:09 Departed from Field #29 in a Fw 190A-5 15:03:56 Shot down a B-26B flown by Popsman.<-- B-26 15:04:40 Helps DRAGUN shoot down killyjim.<-- B-26 15:04:43 Helps perdweeb shoot down Popsman.<-- B-26 15:07:52 Shot down a B-26B flown by tudza.<-- B-26 15:08:00 Shot down a B-26B flown by tudza.<-- B-26 15:08:01 Awarded kill as Popsman crashes in a Gunner-Observer. 15:08:52 Bravely Bailed from damaged plane.
CANUKK 14:35:57 Departed from Field #29 in a Fw 190A-5 15:05:43 Shot down a B-26B flown by Fang.<-- B-26 15:05:59 Shot down a B-26B flown by Fang.<-- B-26 15:06:46 Shot down a B-26B flown by Fang.<-- B-26 15:06:48 Awarded kill as killyjim crashes in a Gunner-Observer. 15:08:54 Bravely Bailed from damaged plane.
DRAGUN 14:35:51 Departed from Field #29 in a Fw 190A-5 15:04:40 Shot down a B-26B flown by killyjim.<-- B-26 15:04:59 Shot down a B-26B flown by Brooke.<-- B-26 15:07:52 Helps Roodalf shoot down tudza.<-- B-26 15:08:00 Helps Roodalf shoot down tudza.<-- B-26 15:19:21 Arrived Safely at Field #28
Examples from Hinterland
Camo 14:04:56 Departed from Field #116 in a Bf 109G-14 14:19:54 Helps Smurqula shoot down tudza.<-- B-26 14:20:11 Shot down a B-26B flown by HB555.<-- B-26 14:20:22 Shot down a B-26B flown by tudza.<-- B-26 14:20:43 Shot down a B-26B flown by tudza.<-- B-26 14:20:59 Shot down a B-26B flown by HB555.<-- B-26 14:21:04 Was shot down by HB555 (exploded).
Frantico 13:25:20 Departed from Field #116 in a Bf 109G-14 13:47:43 Helps Teufel01 shoot down tudza.<-- B-26 13:50:05 Helps kenzu111 shoot down HB555.<-- B-26 13:51:34 Shot down a B-26B flown by Mato.<-- B-26 13:52:13 Shot down a B-26B flown by Mato.<-- B-26 13:54:58 Arrived Safely at Field #121
JanneK 13:24:50 Departed from Field #116 in a Bf 109G-14 13:46:01 Shot down a B-26B flown by swoose.<-- B-26 13:46:39 Helps kiaku shoot down swoose.<-- B-26 13:47:51 Helps Jarski shoot down tudza.<-- B-26 13:50:23 Shot down a B-26B flown by HB555.<-- B-26 13:52:08 Arrived Safely at Field #121 14:09:37 Departed from Field #116 in a Bf 109G-14 14:21:41 Shot down a B-26B flown by HB555.<-- B-26 14:22:24 Helps Tikto shoot down swoose.<-- B-26 14:25:55 Arrived Safely at Field #117 14:34:57 Departed from Field #117 in a Bf 109G-14 14:52:43 Awarded kill as Joker crashes in a B-26B.<-- B-26 14:52:44 Awarded kill as Joker crashes in a B-26B.<-- B-26 14:53:02 Shot down a B-26B flown by Joker.<-- B-26 14:55:58 Skillfully ditched.
Attacking B-26's at 14k is significantly easier than attacking B-17's at 24k, yet no one complains about B-17's at 24k.
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: TWCAxew on March 09, 2020, 02:13:45 AM
Dont Worry. We will be okay :aok FLY AXIS
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 09, 2020, 02:15:22 AM
NAH! I raise your "wish" and say SAVE, i wll pay your sub if you fly with US(axis of awesome) :neener:
@Save He will do it! That's the kind of man 1stpar3 is! :cheers:
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: save on March 09, 2020, 09:56:27 AM
Brooke, I suspect you have set the buff-tough value low in scenarios, I even bagged a B-26 in a Macci 202 in the North-Africa scenarios a while ago :aok
In melee arena the B-26 looks as if it borrowed a good bunch of front plates of some Panther tanks.
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: svaalbar on March 09, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
I nuked a b26 formation by myself with like 40 rounds of 30mm in a 109k4 last night. I've never found them to be super tough. More like 17s and lancs
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 09, 2020, 12:17:58 PM
Brooke, I suspect you have set the buff-tough value low in scenarios, I even bagged a B-26 in a Macci 202 in the North-Africa scenarios a while ago :aok
Only for my own personal bomber.
Just kidding. There is no setting for toughness of bombers.
There is a setting for lethality of rounds, but that affects all planes, and it isnt changed for scenarios.
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Arlo on March 09, 2020, 12:35:05 PM
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Hajo on March 14, 2020, 10:59:43 AM
For those of you interested about the P47 I have several books on the P47. It is my favorite piston driven fighter/fighter bomber. These are great sources to read.
Gabby: A fighter Pilots Life by Gabby himself as told to Carl Molesworth.
Wolfpack Warriors by Roger A Freeman noted WWII aviation author from Great Britain.
Zemkes Wolfpack: By again Roger A Freeman as told by Zemke.
Kearby's Thunderbolts, the 348th FG in WWII. By John C. Stanaway
My two best P47 books are:
Thunderbolt! By Robert S Johnson with Martin Caidin I have a first edition of this book that was given to and signed thusly by Johnson "To Paul Briand with best wishes from Robert S. Johnson." Somewhat hard to find even without Johnsons signature. First editions are pricey and very hard to find.
Again the most definitive book on the P47 ever written from development, model introductions etc. Repbulic's P-47 Thunderbolt from Seversky to Victory by Warren M. Bodie. Everything you wish to know about the P47. And I mean everything. This is somewhat of a coffee table sized book. You wish to know something it is there. I have a hard cover edition. Again also hard to find and can be pricey like Johnson's book.
And as Brooke posted I also have to win the winter sky. Very very good book!
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 14, 2020, 04:49:06 PM
Again the most definitive book on the P47 ever written from development, model introductions etc. Repbulic's P-47 Thunderbolt from Seversky to Victory by Warren M. Bodie. Everything you wish to know about the P47. And I mean everything. This is somewhat of a coffee table sized book. You wish to know something it is there. I have a hard cover edition. Again also hard to find and can be pricey like Johnson's book.
Awesome! I didn't know Bodie did a P-47 book. I'm ordering it right now! (I loved his awesome P-38 book.)
Thanks, Hajo! :aok
(PS: I notice it is from Widewing Publications. I have a feeling Widewing here has a bit to do with it. :aok)
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Brooke on March 14, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
By the way, I'm in the mighty P-47 for this event.
365th Fighter Group / 388th Fighter Squadron
Go, Thunderbolts!
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Arlo on March 14, 2020, 05:17:22 PM
Been practicing attack runs in the MA (keeping my eyes peeled for Yaks). Sporting the unit skin (with invasion stripes, it seems). Managed to take out a shore battery single-handed (though I had to drop my 2 1Ks then my 500 then shoot my rockets all on separate approaches). Striking towns are easy (of course) because buildings are closely packed. Did some ship damage (are destroyers now harder to sink?).
(https://i.imgur.com/j9xQBVJ.png)
Title: Re: Typhoon and P-47 pilots needed -- let's put it over the top!
Post by: Hajo on March 14, 2020, 06:15:00 PM