General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ULPink on April 27, 2020, 12:46:19 PM
Title: Question about Guns
Post by: ULPink on April 27, 2020, 12:46:19 PM
Does anyone feel like guns are more effective one day than the next? Some day I hit a plane and it explodes, the next day I hit the same plane and it is like the bullets bounce off. Is this part of the game or on my side?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: AAIK on April 27, 2020, 12:47:54 PM
I would guess that it is you. You probably can't make the same shot for every kill.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Bizman on April 27, 2020, 01:08:40 PM
I can tell it has been that way at least from when I started to play this game. Heard the same from squadmates as well. The reasons can be multiple, starting from your mood and mental alertness to issues in your Internet connection. The latter is rather about instability than response time so looking at the ping doesn't tell you much unless it's way off. The reasons for Internet instability are multiple as well, a novelty on Netflix, a new meme spread all over, scheduled banking transactions, a change in oil or stock prices, Trump calling "get well soon" to Kim, rain or thunder somewhere along the route, sunspots, you name it...
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Arlo on April 27, 2020, 01:14:39 PM
If you don't pop the melon ....
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 27, 2020, 01:20:55 PM
Does anyone feel like guns are more effective one day than the next? Some day I hit a plane and it explodes, the next day I hit the same plane and it is like the bullets bounce off. Is this part of the game or on my side?
Thanks!
I feel like it has something to do with lag, much like collisions. I find that when I lead shoot and my front end doesn't technically see the enemy plane, it takes way more bullets because some of them don't register. I could be wrong on this. Its just that I consistently rake planes with bullets, I've put what seems like 80 -100 bullets in some planes and only give them a gas leak or something small. I have drilled planes that attacked me first, only to get the assist. Id love to make a video of it just to see if there is something I'm doing wrong or if there is some kind of a front end issue. I feel like you have to hit them constantly for about .5 seconds to really get them. Sometimes I don't understand how I can be flying a 109G14 with 3 20Mms and completely drill a plane in a lead shot or crossing shot and not take them down. When I see about 20 sprites hit a plane and hardly damage them, then I have to spend more time to finish them off wasting alt, E, and bullets. Sometimes I just don't get it and it doesn't seem consistent. It's one that irritates me a lot, and I have one of the top hit % in the game.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: fuzeman on April 27, 2020, 01:40:40 PM
When I flew more often I seemed to get this and when it was particularly bad I'd relog and it seemed to help, whether that was the placebo effect or not... who knows.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: hitech on April 27, 2020, 02:10:03 PM
I feel like it has something to do with lag, much like collisions. I find that when I lead shoot and my front end doesn't technically see the enemy plane, it takes way more bullets because some of them don't register. I could be wrong on this.
Lag would have no effects on hits, other then how soon you see a part fall off. Front End registers and shows hit and sends to host, host applies damage, if enough is done host sends back to you to display the damage.
HiTech
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Arlo on April 27, 2020, 02:16:26 PM
Yes, but 'hitting a plane' won't `splode it, right? Killing a pilot outright with bullet or cannon fire will (head shot), right? :old:
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Wiley on April 27, 2020, 02:32:30 PM
My personal theory is that air to air gunnery is such a complex thing, miniscule variances in your what your computer is up to/what is going on in your brain and eyes affects it.
Tired, caffeine, your PC doing something a bit differently all could be contributing factors IMO. Could be completely wrong though.
Wiley.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: perdue3 on April 27, 2020, 02:57:50 PM
Might I suggest bigger guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZl_FQH4Kk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKHhv7ojLU
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Shuffler on April 27, 2020, 03:44:27 PM
I am not sure..... I shoot with my eyes closed.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: FLS on April 27, 2020, 04:13:47 PM
A plane only explodes when you kill the pilot.
A plane has different areas that take damage, hits may have to accumulate to cause damage, depending on the weapon.
Depending on distance and maneuvering, dispersion can cause hits all over a plane without damaging any one thing too much.
That's why you can see planes explode one day and fly away the next.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: 100Coogn on April 27, 2020, 04:21:02 PM
If your opponent's plane actually explodes and disappears in a large puff of smoke that means your bullets or cannon fire killed the pilot outright (no pilot wound - a popped melon, so to speak).
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: 100Coogn on April 27, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
I always thought if the pilot was killed, we would see his/her plane simply fall to the ground.
Coogan
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Vulcan on April 27, 2020, 05:44:53 PM
There are so many things to take into account.
Like dispersion... "I lit you up" - hits were spread across the airframe with no single point of concentration Or guns... "I lit you up with 20mm" - or 303? Dual calibre setups have quite different ballistics. So hits maybe 303 (or .50) with the 20mm dropping under Or convergence... "I lit you up with 6 50's" - no you hit me with 3 or 2 and the rest missed me. Don't assume that because you hit me with 1 gun all 6 got me. Often exaggerated when shooting at small aircraft inside or outside convergence (there are some jug pilots, particularly the 56th guys, who absolutely nail they convergence - and when they do it shreds you)
...and some days you just have a sucky day.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Arlo on April 27, 2020, 05:57:24 PM
I always thought if the pilot was killed, we would see his/her plane simply fall to the ground.
Coogan
Now it does (didn't used to). But you still see an 'explosion' of sorts and the icon disappears, as well.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: SPKmes on April 27, 2020, 06:08:07 PM
Hang on... Wait just one damned second here.... How dare you all tell me it is all about my ability.... That is what you are saying isn't it.... There is no way I suck that bad.... no matter how much you say it... it must be the game...Has to be the game...dosen't it ??? !!!! :old: :joystick:
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: fuzeman on April 27, 2020, 07:12:58 PM
Solar flares.
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: save on April 27, 2020, 07:14:50 PM
Hang on... Wait just one damned second here.... How dare you all tell me it is all about my ability.... That is what you are saying isn't it.... There is no way I suck that bad.... no matter how much you say it... it must be the game...Has to be the game...dosen't it ??? !!!! :old: :joystick:
Thanks, Tongs, you're right, it must just be me!
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: LNG15 on April 29, 2020, 10:15:59 AM
Does anyone feel like guns are more effective one day than the next? Some day I hit a plane and it explodes, the next day I hit the same plane and it is like the bullets bounce off. Is this part of the game or on my side?
Thanks!
Mindy I have had those moments happen to me so much. I have a friend who use to play, his name was Odee. Everytime I flew with him on my wing and I hit stuff it seemed the plane I shot at kept flying. What you are experiencing are called Rubber Bullets or what I call them "Odee Bullets" XD
Title: Re: Question about Guns
Post by: Arlo on April 29, 2020, 10:16:03 AM