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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: oboe on June 16, 2020, 07:14:10 PM
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Here are some shots of an update of one of my old P-38J skins. Still a WIP but very close I think, unless you guys spot anything. This is P-38J-5 42-6713 "Screwy Looie", flown by Lt Louis Schriber of the 80th FS, 8th FG. Based in Finschafen, January 1944.
(https://i.imgur.com/cvg9Kbh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ijd3HL1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/esZED03.jpg)
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:aok
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Glad you are updating your skins :aok
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beautiful Oboe
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Looks great!
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Nice.
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Great Job! That Green and Olive drab is simply the best! <S>
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Regarding the green markings, is the color you chose based on a specific source? Being that the OD is a dark yellow-green, I'm thinking the markings might look even better if you used a green that leans more towards the blue side of greens.
But this suggestion is simply in the name of aesthetics. If there is a documented color used that matches your chosen color, then never mind.
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All the color artwork I've seen of the 80ths birds show green trim in a shade I'd describe as "Kelly Green" - its like a medium, true rich green.
(https://i.imgur.com/lHd4AOo.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/npsjfMU.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/u6zQFGb.jpg)
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The main thing that jumped out at me is the national insignia on the left wing. The bars look just a tad skinny. Could just be perspective.
I like how the skin looks like a painting rather than an object. It's a nice effect.
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Ok. I think your green leans more towards lime green than "Kelly Green." When I hear "Kelly Green," I think of the Boston Celtics uniform.
(https://jerseymuseum.s3.amazonaws.com/media/jersey-images/077d12f74a244c8686943f184591c6fb.png)
Also, the blue in your insignia looks too bold. Usually your insignia colors are spot on, so maybe you have simply not finished this aspect yet.
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If the Celtics jersey is Kelly Green, then I'm using the wrong term - but I *think* its supposed to be a very simple, pure rich green - I've lost my color reference palettes, but I'm guessing there must be an Insignia green? There used to be a great website with a whole bunch of USAF, RAF, and Luftwaffe color samples - Simmers Paintshop, or something like that. and of course, it should be faded somewhat from months of front line service in the hot South Pacific sun.
I hadn't touched the star & bar insignia - I'll have to look at that. By "bold" do you mean too much blue? Or, should I just reduce opacity of the whole decal somewhat? I'll double check to ensure blue border width is uniform all around - you're right, it may just be the angle. It should have same proportions as the side insignia on the boom.
Vraciu - I think that painting effect resulted from following Greebo's skin build log and adding the noise and color variation layers. Lots of variation that just happened. Plus, I had an accident with an airbrush gun on the top inner left wing, and decided to just leave it. :/
EDIT: Found what looks to be a helpful site: https://www.aircorpsart.com/blog/WWII-color-codes/ (https://www.aircorpsart.com/blog/WWII-color-codes/) It had this sample palette, and I'm sure the 80th used that bright green 3rd from the right:
(https://i.imgur.com/hy2Oyil.jpg)
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That's a great looking skin Oboe, really nicely weathered. Looking forward to seeing more of your updated work.
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It's an 80th bird so that makes it about perfect. I always liked the OD ones. Geronimo 2 is another good one.
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If the Celtics jersey is Kelly Green, then I'm using the wrong term - but I *think* its supposed to be a very simple, pure rich green - I've lost my color reference palettes, but I'm guessing there must be an Insignia green? There used to be a great website with a whole bunch of USAF, RAF, and Luftwaffe color samples - Simmers Paintshop, or something like that. and of course, it should be faded somewhat from months of front line service in the hot South Pacific sun.
I hadn't touched the star & bar insignia - I'll have to look at that. By "bold" do you mean too much blue? Or, should I just reduce opacity of the whole decal somewhat? I'll double check to ensure blue border width is uniform all around - you're right, it may just be the angle. It should have same proportions as the side insignia on the boom.
Vraciu - I think that painting effect resulted from following Greebo's skin build log and adding the noise and color variation layers. Lots of variation that just happened. Plus, I had an accident with an airbrush gun on the top inner left wing, and decided to just leave it. :/
EDIT: Found what looks to be a helpful site: https://www.aircorpsart.com/blog/WWII-color-codes/ (https://www.aircorpsart.com/blog/WWII-color-codes/) It had this sample palette, and I'm sure the 80th used that bright green 3rd from the right:
(https://i.imgur.com/hy2Oyil.jpg)
OK. The green you chose is close enough to a faded version of the green in that picture. Great color reference for other shades too. :aok
The blue in your insignia needs to be desaturated and lightened slightly. Also it seems to be a bit too purple-ish. I think trying to match the Insignia Blue on that site will give a great result.
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Just out of curiosity, I wonder how that green looks on a bare metal scheme. It may just an optical illusion caused by the OD green making the green markings appear more yellow. I've noticed the same thing with RLM 02 gray on German schemes. When paired with green camouflage colors, RLM 02 will look like a dark beige, but when used with cold grays it will look like light olive.
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We'll find out - after I finish with my OD P-38Js, I have a natural metal WIP that I'd be working on a few years ago - before I switched to doing P-51s. I'd hit a wall getting it to look right, but something Greebo said recently gave me an idea to try. Several of the natural metal birds will be from the 80th FS with the green trim. (If I could go back, I wound not do multiple skins from the same FS - too confusing in drop down lists I think).
I'm also going to take a crack at my '38J from the 20th FG - I think that skin originally dates from AH1. It's hideous.
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Vraciu - I think that painting effect resulted from following Greebo's skin build log and adding the noise and color variation layers. Lots of variation that just happened. Plus, I had an accident with an airbrush gun on the top inner left wing, and decided to just leave it. :/
Well, to me the ratio of width to height is off. The bars on the wing national insignia need to be shortened laterally. IOW, they extend too far from the circle based on what I'm seeing.