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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: RotBaron on September 09, 2020, 10:05:16 AM
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Mine is basically shot, can’t hold straight on a field gun let alone another ftr.
I’ve always used the Logitech 3D Extreme Pro for AH and it’s says it’s in stock a lot of places only to put it in the cart and find out they don’t have it...
Please give your best suggestions for something similar.
Thank you.
:salute
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This one if a warthog is out of your budget
https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960773-Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS/dp/B01MQEDEEW (https://www.amazon.com/ThrustMaster-2960773-Thrustmaster-T16000M-FCS/dp/B01MQEDEEW)
Eagler
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IF you can get it setup and have good enough reaction time, bare wire arcing works and adds another dimension to the game.
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The TM T16000M Eagler suggested is of the same price range as your Logi, yet it's much more accurate. More importantly it's pretty similar in shape and size so you don't have to teach your hand a new position and grip. I felt immediately at home with it when I did the exactly same move. Some rethinking for the top buttons but nothing too radical.
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Maybe try local pawn shops or thrift stores. Im lucky I got my Extreme 3D pro back in April, They were sold out from December 2019 to March? April? 2020 on Amazon, and I checked now and LOL paying 100% added sticker price for used or "new" 3D extremes (70 to 100 dollars!) When the two I bought (one in 2018, the other in April 2020 mentioned above) were 35 dollars each
Maybe try newegg.com as another website.
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If you're looking for a top of the line joystick, VKB line of joysticks and pedals are excellent products.
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The TM T16000M Eagler suggested is of the same price range as your Logi, yet it's much more accurate. More importantly it's pretty similar in shape and size so you don't have to teach your hand a new position and grip. I felt immediately at home with it when I did the exactly same move. Some rethinking for the top buttons but nothing too radical.
I wanted to like those. I like it's ambidextrous as a left-hander.
I've bought two of them in the last year and both the twisty axis died or became unstable. Grrrrr.
Back to CH products.
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Thank you for all the suggestions!
Yes Svaalbar, they used to be 40$ and get the insurance at Best Buy and only had to pay for a new one + some fees about every three months (with heavy usage). I think they’ve been discontinued but Logitech doesn’t actually say that anywhere I can find so far.
I’ve had them wear out in a month so anything over $40 is too high for them. If I can get a year out of another 150$ sounds about my range, maybe a bit more
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Back to CH products.
CH have gone downhill, unreliable and badly assembled. They used to be bomb proof, how times change.
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CH have gone downhill, unreliable and badly assembled. They used to be bomb proof, how times change.
CH was great back in the day. They never moved foward.
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I'll 2nd the vote on the T16000. Have had mine about a year with no problems.
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https://vkbcontrollers.com/ (https://vkbcontrollers.com/)
I'm thinking about trying one of these too...
(https://i1.wp.com/vkbcontrollers.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/SCG-R-P_750-1.jpg?fit=750%2C750&ssl=1)
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https://vkbcontrollers.com/ (https://vkbcontrollers.com/)
I'm thinking about trying one of these too...
(https://i1.wp.com/vkbcontrollers.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/SCG-R-P_750-1.jpg?fit=750%2C750&ssl=1)
I've got the Gunfighter Mk III SCG Premiere, excellent stick with extremely precise and accurate movement. I also have the VKB T-Rudder Mk IV, again excellent and also extremely precise and accurate. The SCG replaced my 23 year old CH Jane's F-16 Combat Stick and the T-Rudders replacing my 20+ year old Pro Pedals. Just have the Pro Throttle left to replace and that hopefully soon when Virpil gets their throttles restocked.
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I’m so used to the twisty stick, using one that isn’t would be a big adjustment period. Hmmm
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I’m so used to the twisty stick, using one that isn’t would be a big adjustment period. Hmmm
VKB gunfighter MKIII is available with a twist, that's what i use with the Modern Combat Grip. Also have it mounted on their stronghold base with the 8in extension. Took some getting use to going from base being on my right on a desk to center mounted but wouldn't go back. I'm holding out for their throttle so I have matching gear to replace my x52 pro throttle.
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The TM T16000M Eagler suggested is of the same price range as your Logi, yet it's much more accurate. More importantly it's pretty similar in shape and size so you don't have to teach your hand a new position and grip. I felt immediately at home with it when I did the exactly same move. Some rethinking for the top buttons but nothing too radical.
How do you use rudder with the Thrustmaster?
How did you get used to not twisting for rudder?
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You will adjust quickly to peds
They are way more precise than a twisty stick
Eagler
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Thank you for all the suggestions!
Yes Svaalbar, they used to be 40$ and get the insurance at Best Buy and only had to pay for a new one + some fees about every three months (with heavy usage). I think they’ve been discontinued but Logitech doesn’t actually say that anywhere I can find so far.
I’ve had them wear out in a month so anything over $40 is too high for them. If I can get a year out of another 150$ sounds about my range, maybe a bit more
Every three months? Wow. I play like 10 to 20 hours (perhaps even more) per week and after 2 years of use my first Extreme 3D Pro I decided to trash because the dead zones were getting so bad. I like the Extreme 3D pro a lot, but it does get "broken into" pretty easily after a few months. Right now the deadzones are OK, but I'm sure that will change in a year.
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You will adjust quickly to peds
They are way more precise than a twisty stick
Eagler
I finally got a set of pedals and took a little to get used to them but will never go back. Step on the Bubble!
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How do you use rudder with the Thrustmaster?
How did you get used to not twisting for rudder?
same as using them with any other stick
don't have it mapped and it won't matter if you twist it...unless of course you are twisting to kick the rudder and have forgotten you now use pedals..
My biggest problem learning pedals was learning to release...I would fly for ages with my rudder kicked in place... wondering why I was so slow and slipping sideways....
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How do you use rudder with the Thrustmaster?
How did you get used to not twisting for rudder?
If you get the T1600N with the throttle , the throttle comes with a slide on take front of the throttle that you can map as a rudder. Works great when you normally have your hand on the throttle you have two fingers naturally right there on the rudder slide! I found its better than a twister!!