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Title: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Vinkman on January 03, 2021, 03:44:01 PM
I've never seen a better a Pilot rank than Atlau scored in this resent tour 251.   The rank is calculated by adding your rank in the 5 categories. Usually the Fighter Rank tour winner scores around 90 or so.  For tour 251 Atlau scored an 11.  1st, 3x 2nd, and a 4th. The second place player scored a 92. Wow.

Congrats Atlau on a Monster Fighter tour.  :salute 
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: LCADolby on January 03, 2021, 04:17:23 PM
Finally, Vinkman's Mating Display.

We're very happy for you Atlau.

Never has scoretarding ever reaped such a valuable reward.

 :D
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: perdue3 on January 03, 2021, 04:18:23 PM
An impressive campaign.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Shuffler on January 04, 2021, 12:22:02 AM
Did he get a cookie?
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: guncrasher on January 04, 2021, 01:08:39 AM
can somebody explain how my score is 59, while all the other scores are above 80?


semp
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Lusche on January 04, 2021, 03:11:32 AM
can somebody explain how my score is 59, while all the other scores are above 80?


semp

I assume you mean your total rank.
Total Rank = Pilots are ranked by the sum of their fighter, attack, bomber and vehicle ranks. Your sum of those modes is 598, and apparently only 58 other players have a lower ranks rum.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: fd ski on January 04, 2021, 05:01:43 AM
that's because he steals all my kills !!! :) Congrats Atlau !!!

Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Slade on January 04, 2021, 06:20:43 AM
Score Fun Facts

http://oracledba.help/app/ww2planes/index.php?n=Site.Score
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 04, 2021, 06:35:25 AM
Does he get the customary set of steak knives?
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: zack1234 on January 04, 2021, 09:07:18 AM
Atlua.....is awesome.

His only flaw he likes to defend, as everyone knows this is for girls.

Attacking is the best form of defense :old:

And taking down VH before running troops, and making sure no GVs in twn, Some Knights are still unaware of said details.

Especialy the American players

I thank you
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: SpinDoc1 on January 04, 2021, 11:20:03 AM
"I shot down Atlau, once" they said. "It was merely a mirage" they said.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Simon on January 04, 2021, 11:43:03 AM
Monster is right. I'm constantly amazed at how consistently atlau can rack 'em up. He doesn't even play in primetime, yet bags multiple kills each and every time he ups, in no time. I don't think I've ever even seen him re-arm. He has an intuition for the game that I can't even fathom, beyond his obvious skills.

He's in a league of his own. Like Gretzky level.  :salute
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Vinkman on January 04, 2021, 11:49:39 AM
Does he get the customary set of steak knives?

I think he won the Cadillac.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: zack1234 on January 04, 2021, 12:03:38 PM
I am selling laminated pictures of Atlau for $45
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Vinkman on January 04, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
I am selling laminated pictures of Atlau for $45

I want a doctor to take his picture so can I take a look inside of him as well.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 04, 2021, 01:27:36 PM
I think he won the Cadillac.

Cadillac's are over rated and break down a LOT. Steak knives would do a lot more in the end. Cut up your steak, Home defense, Camping tool, Automotive tool.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Eagler on January 04, 2021, 01:28:59 PM
What plane did he get his kills in?

Eagler
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Lusche on January 04, 2021, 01:52:09 PM
What plane did he get his kills in?

Eagler

Mostly (in descending order) 109K, P-51D, F4U-1A, F4U-4, Me 262, P-38s and others
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Eagler on January 04, 2021, 02:14:07 PM
Boom and zoom

Eagler
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 04, 2021, 03:31:31 PM
Good Job for Atlau!

Those are some serious stats.

Not sure how the dude isn't tired of the game posting that many hours tour after tour though.  :D

Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Vinkman on January 04, 2021, 07:34:32 PM
Boom and zoom

Eagler

K4, F4U, and P-38 are not BnZ planes.  :salute
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: LCADolby on January 04, 2021, 10:41:20 PM
K4, F4U, and P-38 are not BnZ planes.  :salute

The 38 is a bomber! It has a yoke!
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 05, 2021, 08:39:07 AM
K4, F4U, and P-38 are not BnZ planes.  :salute

The F4U is definitely a BnZ plane, it just has the ability to out maneuver almost any other plane.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Lazerr on January 05, 2021, 11:03:13 AM
The F4U is definitely a BnZ plane, it just has the ability to out maneuver almost any other plane.
  truth
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Eagler on January 05, 2021, 11:07:11 AM
In MA it is just about the only way to survive a sortie

Makes it more boring but it is understandable why many do not use the mid and early planesets there.

Eagler
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: SPKmes on January 05, 2021, 01:51:32 PM
K4, F4U, and P-38 are not BnZ planes.  :salute

that depends on how they are used
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Vinkman on January 05, 2021, 02:06:54 PM
that depends on how they are used

Yes. Atlau not really a picking BnZ pilot. sure you can dive a Corsair but most F4U sticks are Dog fighters. Can’t BnZ in 109, nor a 38. So the original disparaging comment I was addressing still stands as debunked. 
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Max on January 05, 2021, 03:18:35 PM
Can’t BnZ in  a 38. So the original disparaging comment I was addressing still stands as debunked.

Vinky apparently hasn't encountered AKAK diving his Lighting in from 28K   :old:
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: LCADolby on January 05, 2021, 03:32:42 PM
38 and K4, they are just more difficult to BnZ due the 450mph speed limit imposed by their characteristics. But are still very capable of BnZ mode-ing all day.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Max on January 05, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Dolby.....where ya been dude?
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: LCADolby on January 05, 2021, 04:41:40 PM
Where haven't I been  :noid

 :D :salute
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Eagler on January 06, 2021, 08:13:11 AM
Can't b&z in a 109k?

You are kidding right?

You can b&z any plane if you fly it that way

Depends on the plane you are attacking and how many friends he has nearby

Atlau has the skill to kill you multiple ways in many different aircraft

Eagler
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2021, 09:15:08 AM
Yes. Atlau not really a picking BnZ pilot. sure you can dive a Corsair but most F4U sticks are Dog fighters. Can’t BnZ in 109, nor a 38. So the original disparaging comment I was addressing still stands as debunked.

Why can't you BnZ in a P-38?  It is very good in that fighting style.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2021, 09:16:10 AM
38 and K4, they are just more difficult to BnZ due the 450mph speed limit imposed by their characteristics. But are still very capable of BnZ mode-ing all day.

There is a speed limit on the P-38?  I guess there is if you don't know how to fly one properly.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Eagler on January 06, 2021, 10:48:35 AM
Knowing the limits of each plane helps determine how to fight it - compression is one limitation

One thing for sure if Atlau, Vinkman, Ack Ack, Owl and some others are higher than you it is best to hope they do not see you and try to slink away :)

Eagler
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2021, 11:42:04 AM
Knowing the limits of each plane helps determine how to fight it - compression is one limitation

One thing for sure if Atlau, Vinkman, Ack Ack, Owl and some others are higher than you it is best to hope they do not see you and try to slink away :)

Eagler

Compressability isn't a limitation for the P-38 because it is easy to avoid and still hit 500mph in a dive.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: LCADolby on January 06, 2021, 03:28:57 PM
contradictions ak  :evil:
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2021, 04:03:59 PM
contradictions ak  :evil:

No contradictions, if one has a clear understanding of what compressability is and at what altitudes it affects the P-38, it is easily avoided and high speed dives are possible.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Drano on January 06, 2021, 04:10:25 PM
No contradictions, if one has a clear understanding of what compressability is and at what altitudes it affects the P-38, it is easily avoided and high speed dives are possible.
True that. It's a bit more to keep track of on the way down, because you can certainly get into trouble at speed if you don't, but you can really take advantage of the energy going back up with all that weight.

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Wiley on January 06, 2021, 04:17:52 PM
True that. It's a bit more to keep track of on the way down, because you can certainly get into trouble at speed if you don't, but you can really take advantage of the energy going back up with all that weight.

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

I have very few hard and fast rules in this game, but one is "Don't follow a 38 in a zoom unless I've got a TON more E than he does."

Wiley.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: LCADolby on January 06, 2021, 04:20:28 PM
No contradictions,There are no limitation as long as you know the limitations
:D  ;)
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Oldman731 on January 06, 2021, 07:31:43 PM
I have very few hard and fast rules in this game, but one is "Don't follow a 38 in a zoom unless I've got a TON more E than he does."


True.

Nevertheless, I keep trying.

- oldman
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Drano on January 06, 2021, 07:33:37 PM

True.

Nevertheless, I keep trying.

- oldman
It's OK if you're following me up. You oughta know but now I'll just miss the shot anyway! It's kinda my trademark!

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Wiley on January 06, 2021, 07:56:39 PM

True.

Nevertheless, I keep trying.

- oldman

As do I.  I should've appended "and expect to survive".  I have a similar problem pressing Zekes too hard and losing all my E, then having them out-accelerate me and I die.  The worst part is knowing it's a bad life decision and doing it anyways. :)

Wiley.
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 07, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Anyone can fly a plane any style, although it might be difficult. You can turn n burn a p51D all day against many pilots in the game and perhaps beat them no matter what they are flying. That is the name of the game, however, that's not the style that the p51 actually is. The plane is a BnZ plane thru and thru. Much like every American plane, simply because thats how they were designed given our position in the war. Some planes like the f4u can turn well, but are total slugs low n slow on the deck. To be the most successful, it should be flown BnZ style and only turn fight in desperate situations.

A rule of thumb i generally go by is, if the plane can dive faster than 500 knots, its a BnZ plane. IMO, they style the plane should be flown in is not necessarily the style that people fly the plane with. Some planes like the P38 and K4 can be used as both as they have great acceleration and E retention, though its iffy if they are actually truely BnZ style planes. The p38 is more BnZ than the K4, but generally both the planes are very similar even though they are totally different body types. Just because a plane can go fast flying straight, that doesn't necessarily make it a BnZ plane. BNZ generally refers to its ability to dive fast and zoom away without another plane catching it.

Most axis planes are not BnZ planes besides 190s and ta152s. These are pure BnZ planes. Sure you can attempt to turn them on the deck, but its not gonna work out too well for you. Planes like the Ki84, Nik, spits, la7s, 109s, are knife fighter planes. They are not BnZ planes nor TnB planes. They fit right in the middle. They should be flown much like how a shark eats its prey. Fly fast at mid alt and strike quickly, use defense maneuvers to shake cons and gain the advantage thru overshoot. They typically take a good amount of more skill to be successful in because they generally get tied up on the deck in the furball and get picked easier than BnZ planes. BnZ planes catch them and you have to know how to escape that. Thats why they typically have lower overall K/D than the BnZ planes. You also have pure TnB planes like the ki43, A6m, and generally early war planes besides the P40.

Any plane can be flown any style, its just that some planes are better at BnZ than others and should only be flown BnZ if you want to be successful, while some planes cannot be BnZ planes because they are not fast enough in the dive and cannot simply zoom away when a con jumps the 6.

It's important to learn these styles correctly in these planes to be more successful in them. Sure you can fly a plane any style, it's just going to make your situation much more difficult, not saying you shouldn't try either. Sometimes its fun to make it more difficult. 
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: Vinkman on January 08, 2021, 09:05:16 AM
Can't b&z in a 109k?

You are kidding right?

You can b&z any plane if you fly it that way

Depends on the plane you are attacking and how many friends he has nearby

Atlau has the skill to kill you multiple ways in many different aircraft

Eagler
Title: Re: Monster Tour 251 - Atlau
Post by: ULPink on January 08, 2021, 04:47:45 PM
Way to go, Atlau!