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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Banshee7 on May 07, 2021, 02:40:45 PM
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I did a *brief* search, and I couldn’t find a thread. So, I was wondering what everyone thought of the movie Midway that came out in 2019. Just got a chance to watch it for the first time and thought it was decent.
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Funny as we were just discussing this on Discord the other night. perd posted a video and this pretty much ruined it for me:
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xhz8R7s/image.png)
I've never seen it, didn't expect a historically accurate film, but good grief.
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Sadly just like most Hollywood attempts, unrealistic and always wrapped around some idiotic love story
I think a series like baa baa black sheep about the battle of Britain would be interesting.
It could flow into the yanks coming over and into the European air war
Eagler
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I enjoyed the movie, IIRC they claimed is was closer to what really happened. :rock
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I enjoyed the movie, IIRC they claimed is was closer to what really happened. :rock
From what I heard, it more followed one person rather than the whole event. Not saying that is a bad thing, but I was expecting the whole event to be covered, much like how they did with Tora, Tora, Tora!, and Midway (1976).
Now if they were to properly remake those two movies... A lot more information is available about what happened during these battles now than they had access to then. The only sad part is there are nowhere near as many flyable gals now as there were then, plus with all the rules and regulations in place that didn't exist then that do now, oof. So it would need to be CG.
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If I recall correctly the movie sort of begins with the worst CGI cluster-truck of a sequence of Pearl Harbor I just quit like 10min in.
Modern movies suck for the most part. Just constant reboots of past events and past movies/franchises. Star Wars anyone? the last decade hasnt had one solid piece of Star Wars content besides Mandalorian. or even one new IP that I can remember. Maybe Game of Thrones... but that series ended in a hot garbage fire.
Edit oh! 1917 was a good movie. Only decent new one I've seen for the past few years that isn't recycling hollywood trash again and again for cheap and easy $$$
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It's probably the best movie you're likely to see on the subject for years to come. I don't remember much romance, unlike Pearl Harbor. They also got the sequence of events right, and more truth than the original movie. You do have to forgive the way they portray flying. That's always going to be a given with movies. The sound effects are top notch, too.
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I enjoyed it for what it is.
I used to be a rivet counter and demanded all the historyz.
I gave up on that years ago. Life's way to short for that.
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It's probably the best movie you're likely to see on the subject for years to come. I don't remember much romance, unlike Pearl Harbor. They also got the sequence of events right, and more truth than the original movie. You do have to forgive the way they portray flying. That's always going to be a given with movies. The sound effects are top notch, too.
It's not surprising that there is "more truth" to Midway 2019, as there is a lot more information of the battle than there was for Midway 1976. Okay, I've gotten me curious enough about it. :)
But I can't help imagine if they properly redid Tora! Tora! Tora! and Midway 1976, how those would come out. Obviously all battle scenes would be CG now. :headscratch:
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Sadly just like most Hollywood attempts, unrealistic and always wrapped around some idiotic love story
So just like the 1976 version then.
Speaking of WWII movies, right now Tora!Tora!Tora!, The Longest Day, Battle of Britain and a few others are available free on Youtube but they will get rotated out at some point.
I just watched Battle of Britain beginning to end for the first time and man was I disappointed.
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I enjoyed watching the 2019 movie Midway and watched it quite a few times.
As for accuracy... I enjoyed The Lord of the Rings trilogy also and watched it many times without any concerns about historical accuracy in either instance.
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I have watched several documentaries of the battle of midway. read some different accounts of it. I personally think this is the best documentary on it. there's 2 episodes from the japanese perspective and 1 from the american perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo
also watched the history chanel documentary on it but found it lacking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtgggq1l8o4
semp
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I have watched several documentaries of the battle of midway. read some different accounts of it. I personally think this is the best documentary on it. there's 2 episodes from the japanese perspective and 1 from the american perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo
also watched the history chanel documentary on it but found it lacking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtgggq1l8o4
semp
The few videos Montemayor has done have been quite enjoyable. Hopefully he's just on a temporary hiatus, as I'd like to see him do more videos on Pacific Battles. :aok
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Historical accuracy, no love story, no CGI.
The Fighting Lady (1944) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60)
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Historical accuracy, no love story, no CGI.
The Fighting Lady (1944) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JbXRDOP60)
I've fallen asleep to this a few times, been a few years since I've "watched" it :)
Movies in the similar vein of 1917 and Dunkirk are more my jam, would like to see more movies like that. Saw this movie called "Lancaster Skies" on Amazon Prime, might check it out later. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3486080/ - doesn't look well received though.
Any other recommendations?
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Any other recommendations?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypto
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypto
watch the movie and yes it's a jaguar.
semp
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I enjoyed it for what it is.
I used to be a rivet counter and demanded all the historyz.
I gave up on that years ago. Life's way to short for that.
There is a happy medium between history lite and counting rivots, Midway falls well short of that medium for me. Granted, I have never seen it, just one scene and lost count of how many things pissed me off. I remember yelling at the TV as I paused it "Nope!"
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If you vo to these movies looking for a documentary your a fool. If you go looking for an action flick with some pretty good cgi you will most likely enjoy it.
Why would you go to a baseball game and expect to see a football game.?
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If you vo to these movies looking for a documentary your a fool. If you go looking for an action flick with some pretty good cgi you will most likely enjoy it.
Why would you go to a baseball game and expect to see a football game.?
I am sure this post will be futile, but why not?
It is not that I expect a documentary, I just expect more effort. It is not hard to get colors, aircraft, and terminology correct. It takes very little effort to get accurate information. It is like people who use words and names in their Gamer ID but misspell them, how hard is it to check? It takes one pilot looking at the SBD landing scene to say, "Wait a sec, we need to change some things." Not asking for a documentary, just asking for slightly more awareness and effort.
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I am sure this post will be futile, but why not?
It is not that I expect a documentary, I just expect more effort. It is not hard to get colors, aircraft, and terminology correct. It takes very little effort to get accurate information. It is like people who use words and names in their Gamer ID but misspell them, how hard is it to check? It takes one pilot looking at the SBD landing scene to say, "Wait a sec, we need to change some things." Not asking for a documentary, just asking for slightly more awareness and effort.
Understood, but that is not the kind of movie they were making. Just watching the previews would have told you that, at which point you either change your expectations, or dont watch it. Beating up a movie because it wasnt "realistic" enough for you isnt fair because that isnt the movie they were making.
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I am sure this post will be futile, but why not?
It is not that I expect a documentary, I just expect more effort. It is not hard to get colors, aircraft, and terminology correct. It takes very little effort to get accurate information. It is like people who use words and names in their Gamer ID but misspell them, how hard is it to check? It takes one pilot looking at the SBD landing scene to say, "Wait a sec, we need to change some things." Not asking for a documentary, just asking for slightly more awareness and effort.
What Hollywood movie has ever been totally accurate from every angle? The military “advisors” for these movies must be banging their heads on a wall when the movie makers go into full drama mode and blow off accuracy. Expecting complete accuracy will always be disappointing.
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If you vo to these movies looking for a documentary your a fool. If you go looking for an action flick with some pretty good cgi you will most likely enjoy it.
Why would you go to a baseball game and expect to see a football game.?
worth quoting
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I enjoyed the movie from an entertainment perspective. I thought they kept the action going very well. It was not made by a Hollywood production which I think was a good thing. I dont necessarily think they did a great job of really depicting the whole battle though. They moreso just followed one squad that had a big impact in ending the battle. I was happy there wasn't a lot of love drama fluff. There wasn't a lot of downtime boring parts which I liked. There wasn't a lot of character development which was fine. I just think they could have explained the battle a little better. I feel like the movie should have been named after the squad, rather than encompass it for all of Midway. It was a bit cheesy at time, which is expected. I enjoyed watching it in the theater from a entertainment perspective, but I wouldn't use the movie to take history notes.
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From a history teacher standpoint, I can use it to show students the difficulty in attacking fleets and stuff like that. That’s what I look for in movies like this. Can I use it in the classroom for visuals. Watching clips from movies are far more effective than actual gun cam footage and film. And, no, I would never use stuff like this to actually teach an event.
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From a history teacher standpoint, I can use it to show students the difficulty in attacking fleets and stuff like that. That’s what I look for in movies like this. Can I use it in the classroom for visuals. Watching clips from movies are far more effective than actual gun cam footage and film. And, no, I would never use stuff like this to actually teach an event.
It definitely puts into perspective how scary and deadly that damn puff ack was. Some of those scenes were pretty intense. Really shows how brave those guys were - on both sides for that matter.
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It definitely puts into perspective how scary and deadly that damn puff ack was. Some of those scenes were pretty intense. Really shows how brave those guys were - on both sides for that matter.
To that point I'd be curious to know how many planes were shot down by ack that were diving straight at the ships vs flying 8k above them in the opposite direction
Eagler