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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: viking73 on February 24, 2022, 02:32:47 PM
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This is a post on Twitter of a partial video of a supposedly a Ukrainian Mig-29 fighting a Russian Su-35. The poster stated wrong the positions. The Ukrainian is high. You can tell by the blue/white camo when he rolls to look at his prey. Then the SU-35 in a darker camo goes by low. The Ukrainian rolls twice to get in position behind the Russian. How do you think this played out? Was the Mig able to get behind the SU? There may have already been smoke coming out of the SU-35 or just jet exhaust. The Russian staying low I think was hoping the Ukrainian would lose sight of him in the 'grass'. Hard battle for Ukraine but they are fighting. Same poster had shots of a downed Russian helo and some destroyed vehicles.
You'll want to maximize the video. I've had at least 1 response on Twitter say that they're both Ukrainian Mig-29's???
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1496821171119079430
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Pitiful but I'm sorry... the U.S. has no obligation to defend Ukraine
b/c they are not a member of NATO... other than supply arms... now if Russia
attacks a NATO country, then we are obligated
:salute
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Pitiful but I'm sorry... the U.S. has no obligation to defend Ukraine
b/c they are not a member of NATO... other than supply arms... now if Russia
attacks a NATO country, then we are obligated
:salute
OP didn't mention anything about this. Go troll somewhere else.
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Sorry Spike... wasn't trolling but u have to admit...
this post could be construed as an advertisement
for the U.S. to defend Ukraine
:salute
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How long have you guys been here?
Show some respect.
Coogan
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Agree with they're both Mig-29's.
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This is a post on Twitter of a partial video of a supposedly a Ukrainian Mig-29 fighting a Russian Su-35. The poster stated wrong the positions. The Ukrainian is high. You can tell by the blue/white camo when he rolls to look at his prey. Then the SU-35 in a darker camo goes by low. The Ukrainian rolls twice to get in position behind the Russian. How do you think this played out? Was the Mig able to get behind the SU? There may have already been smoke coming out of the SU-35 or just jet exhaust. The Russian staying low I think was hoping the Ukrainian would lose sight of him in the 'grass'. Hard battle for Ukraine but they are fighting. Same poster had shots of a downed Russian helo and some destroyed vehicles.
You'll want to maximize the video. I've had at least 1 response on Twitter say that they're both Ukrainian Mig-29's???
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1496821171119079430
Definitely both MiG-29's and based on how they are flying, It's safe to say that they are on the same side.
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How does one distinguish between a Mig 29 and a Mig 35? I thought they were more or less the same airframe with the Mig 35 having an upgraded airframe and upgraded avionics and weapon systems. Those things dont exactly stand out unless you have a look underneath the hood. Any Mig drivers out there that can enlighten us?
I agree that those two look like they are on the same team.
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Su-35 not MiG-35
Yes, the MiG-35 is a thing, and you are right about the differences between the -29 and -35.
But this twitter post says it's a Ukrainian MiG-29 vs. Russian Su-35
Yes, both top of the line fighters in the MiG and Sukhoi lines are both numbered 35 and derived from earlier types.
MiG-29 --> MiG-35
Su-27 --> Su-35
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Ah . . . . I missed that. Thanks that clears things up . . . .
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Definitely both MiG-29's and based on how they are flying, It's safe to say that they are on the same side.
This is what I was thinking. I read the post thinking some intense fighter action was taking place. However, 5 seconds of low level slow flight with no snap maneuvers, while both planes look almost identical, Indicate cap style flying.
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This is what I was thinking. I read the post thinking some intense fighter action was taking place. However, 5 seconds of low level slow flight with no snap maneuvers, while both planes look almost identical, Indicate cap style flying.
Looks like they ate being vectored for an intercept. But that is all supposition on my part.
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It looks like an overhead rejoin. High guy doing some s turns to join up with the low guy. Definitely doesn't look like they're fighting.
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Nevermind. i r dumb
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It looks like an overhead rejoin. High guy doing some s turns to join up with the low guy. Definitely doesn't look like they're fighting.
My thought also. Looks more like a tactical rejoin headed to the next engagement.
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Both aircraft were Ukrainian... Not a dog fight. They were vectored in to deal with several SU-25s. Oddly, the Russians didn't provide top cover for most SU-25 sorties. As it is, the Russian bear has cornered a badger and he's angry.
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Is this the vid of Ukrainian mig-29s on the deck hunting bear? Or the video game?
Russia also flew their “elite” paratroopers into contested airspace and two big birds full of Russian paratroopers were shot down. That alone belies a critically dysfunctional command and control. Kyiv airport was promptly retaken by Ukrainian forces. Russia thus far has failed to achieve air superiority. I bet Russian ground forces are getting hammered by air strikes. Putin’s Chechen puss-bag friend was just killed along with the rest of the column of 50 vehicles he was with. You know you’re in a poo show when your airborne infantry are getting shot down. Always the same with these despots, like mafioso, surround themselves with sycophants and loyalist yes-men. After years of being insulated from reality the despot begins to believe their own propaganda.
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Is this the vid of Ukrainian mig-29s on the deck hunting bear? Or the video game?
Russia also flew their “elite” paratroopers into contested airspace and two big birds full of Russian paratroopers were shot down. That alone belies a critically dysfunctional command and control. Kyiv airport was promptly retaken by Ukrainian forces. Russia thus far has failed to achieve air superiority. I bet Russian ground forces are getting hammered by air strikes. Putin’s Chechen puss-bag friend was just killed along with the rest of the column of 50 vehicles he was with. You know you’re in a poo show when your airborne infantry are getting shot down. Always the same with these despots, like mafioso, surround themselves with sycophants and loyalist yes-men. After years of being insulated from reality the despot begins to believe their own propaganda.
The video Maw posted was the real footage of the low MiGs, not the DCS gameplay.
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Ukrainian mig-29 cleaning up the neighborhood.
https://youtu.be/h42d4fBKeBE (https://youtu.be/h42d4fBKeBE)
Title says it’s a Russian jet but it wasn’t.
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I notice that NATO has a lot of stuff circling near the Ukrainian border with Romania, tanks and AWACS included. I wonder if they're providing 'tips' ;)
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Ukrainian mig-29 cleaning up the neighborhood.
https://youtu.be/h42d4fBKeBE (https://youtu.be/h42d4fBKeBE)
Title says it’s a Russian jet but it wasn’t.
This one might be fake too. Mover and a couple other fighter pilots took a look at it and found a bunch of stuff was weird. That kid's scream though...
https://youtu.be/Zox71z5PxR8?t=322 (https://youtu.be/Zox71z5PxR8?t=322)
Just before this clip they take a look at the OP clip and came to the same conclusion that it is a rejoin.
I'm not saying this kind of thing isn't happening, just that there are a lot of misinterpreted and outright fake videos making the rounds and very little verified info.
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I notice that NATO has a lot of stuff circling near the Ukrainian border with Romania, tanks and AWACS included. I wonder if they're providing 'tips' ;)
Also saw an E-8 pop up yesterday which IMO is much more intriguing than the E-3s I’ve been seeing on a daily basis.
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Sad news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYScakP1yqo
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Sad news:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYScakP1yqo
Maybe if it was lost in a pre-war incident I'd call it's loss "sad". But considering all the other damage done in Ukraine over the last few days, losing the An-225 is very small potatoes.
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Also saw an E-8 pop up yesterday which IMO is much more intriguing than the E-3s I’ve been seeing on a daily basis.
Very intriguing, I noticed there was an F35 showing up yesterday. And one of the tanks is always doing laps very close to Moldova.
I was watching some info (on the Vice channel I think) about the UK shipping NLAWs over and trainers. I wonder how many 'advisors' have been left in Ukraine?
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Very intriguing, I noticed there was an F35 showing up yesterday. And one of the tanks is always doing laps very close to Moldova.
I was watching some info (on the Vice channel I think) about the UK shipping NLAWs over and trainers. I wonder how many 'advisors' have been left in Ukraine?
Yeah, one of the US FB pages actually posted the F35 too - first time I've seen one with a transponder on. Obviously with 4-5 tankers flying about all day there's loads of fighters we don't see. :bolt:
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Yeah though the race tracks tend to give a bit of info away. I notice in the last 24 hours they seem to be turning their tracking off once near moldova (they being the the E3s). Right now I see some B-52s landing in England, is it normal for them to be advertising?
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The B52’s are taking part in the flyby for LBGTQ celebrations this week in Londistan….fact
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Maybe if it was lost in a pre-war incident I'd call it's loss "sad". But considering all the other damage done in Ukraine over the last few days, losing the An-225 is very small potatoes.
You... have an excellent point.
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Yeah though the race tracks tend to give a bit of info away. I notice in the last 24 hours they seem to be turning their tracking off once near moldova (they being the the E3s). Right now I see some B-52s landing in England, is it normal for them to be advertising?
Yeah, they were flying around the Ukraine border the other day, a couple of them.
Also there are some MC-130s over there, which are Special Ops planes so not just your typical C-130. Caught my eye at least.
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The support has to stay " indirect" .. if not we will be in an actual war with Russia that if Putin is then not killed off we will be in ww3 and it is more than a youtube show for the rest of the world..
Eagler
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You people are a sideshow to yourselves.
WW3?
Grow up and stop playing to this nonsense
The US will do nothing
NATO will do nothing
The Ukraine has been playing big shot with Western backing.
It’s been left out to dry like Poland in 1938 and Serbia in 1914.
Read a damn history book you peasants
North Korea next year and Syria the following year to keep you people occupied
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You people are a sideshow to yourselves.
WW3?
Grow up and stop playing to this nonsense
The US will do nothing
NATO will do nothing
The Ukraine has been playing big shot with Western backing.
It’s been left out to dry like Poland in 1938 and Serbia in 1914.
Read a damn history book you peasants
North Korea next year and Syria the following year to keep you people occupied
All this negativity wrapped up in one little Zack. :rolleyes:
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You people are a sideshow to yourselves.
WW3?
Grow up and stop playing to this nonsense
The US will do nothing
NATO will do nothing
The Ukraine has been playing big shot with Western backing.
It’s been left out to dry like Poland in 1938 and Serbia in 1914.
Read a damn history book you peasants
North Korea next year and Syria the following year to keep you people occupied
“You people”? Careful. Don’t fall off your ivory tower.
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What's the deal with mig's that Poland donated? I read that Poland stated it will not send the jets to ukraine but I also read that ukrainian pilots are picking them up and flying them to ukraine.
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Negativity? Reality check more like.
Ivory tower? Pot calling kettle black
Thought we had WWIII before covid thing with that fat bloke in North Korea firing rockets?
Or was it Assad the nasty man in Syria who started WWIIII
At least CNN and the BBC have another storyline until August
What about the EU censoring news items from Russia…. Fact
And the Eastern European countries threatening 3 years jail terms if people don’t support the Ukraine on social media….Fact
Canada seizing citizens assets ? Bit nearer home ….fact
And an Democratically elected President of the US is still banned from social media..fact
Fighting for freedom in the Ukraine …. Grow up
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Negativity? Reality check more like.
Ivory tower? Pot calling kettle black
Thought we had WWIII before covid thing with that fat bloke in North Korea firing rockets?
Or was it Assad the nasty man in Syria who started WWIIII
At least CNN and the BBC have another storyline until August
What about the EU censoring news items from Russia…. Fact
And the Eastern European countries threatening 3 years jail terms if people don’t support the Ukraine on social media….Fact
Canada seizing citizens assets ? Bit nearer home ….fact
And an Democratically elected President of the US is still banned from social media..fact
Fighting for freedom in the Ukraine …. Grow up
have another slice of spotted dick in your mouth.
semp
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The EU and US will give Putin what he wants.
It will over by August… Fact
Put your masks on and carry on.
China caused a pandemic.
They have won without dropping a bomb
Apple and Amazon are pleased.
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The EU and US will give Putin what he wants.
It will over by August… Fact
Put your masks on and carry on.
China caused a pandemic.
They have won without dropping a bomb
Apple and Amazon are pleased.
You make some sense until you mention the useless masks..are you being sarcastic?
Sorry I'm old and slow and need cliff notes...
I mention ww3 as I believe we are truly that stupid these days that we would actually start one..
Semp how much do you drink before you try to post here?
Eagler
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The EU and US will give Putin what he wants.
It will over by August… Fact
Put your masks on and carry on.
China caused a pandemic.
They have won without dropping a bomb
Apple and Amazon are pleased.
A lot of statements presented as fact.... reads more like a political bias.
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IN :bolt:
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In AUGUST it will be another drama.
What is up with you people?
You people said it will be WWIII with the North Koreans firing rockets….guess what nothing.
Don’t you people think you are being played?
The EU and the US will do NOTHING!
Putin will get what he wants!
Sanctions 😂
You people import Russian oil while shutting your own oil production down to save the polar bears.
Why don’t you bend the knee so Putin retreats 😂
Lets see how pro Ukrainian you people are when petrol is $7 a gallon.
You people😊😂😂😂
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In AUGUST it will be another drama.
What is up with you people?
You people said it will be WWIII with the North Koreans firing rockets….guess what nothing.
Don’t you people think you are being played?
The EU and the US will do NOTHING!
Putin will get what he wants!
Sanctions 😂
You people import Russian oil while shutting your own oil production down to save the polar bears.
Why don’t you bend the knee so Putin retreats 😂
Lets see how pro Ukrainian you people are when petrol is $7 a gallon.
You people😊😂😂😂
how much you pay for a gallon of oil in england?
semp
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In AUGUST it will be another drama.
What is up with you people?
You people said it will be WWIII with the North Koreans firing rockets….guess what nothing.
Don’t you people think you are being played?
The EU and the US will do NOTHING!
Putin will get what he wants!
Sanctions 😂
You people import Russian oil while shutting your own oil production down to save the polar bears.
Why don’t you bend the knee so Putin retreats 😂
Lets see how pro Ukrainian you people are when petrol is $7 a gallon.
You people😊😂😂😂
And your people are doing what besides pointing out the obvious?
Eagler
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Not a Golly-geen thing
The EU can sort their mess out.
The UK will take the Saudi diversified oil money, pay £4 million a day to take their third world brethren.
And keep the Russian and Chinese investments in the city of London.
We have some brand new destroyers but they are all broke and are sat in port😂
WWIII you people are hilarious.
You have been soiling yourselves for two years over a Chinese created pandemic and now you act like your going to war😂
Petrol will be $7 but at least you will have a nice pronoun😂
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What would you do Snoopy ??
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What would you do Snoopy ??
S**t disturbers never offer solutions.
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S**t disturbers never offer solutions.
I refute that statement! :old:
Tis a loaded question after all.
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I refute that statement! :old:
Tis a loaded question after all.
You would :rolleyes:
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Zack1234 kind of has a point. I noticed that just as this war started the media be like "Oh covid is over, take off your masks".
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Zack1234 kind of has a point. I noticed that just as this war started the media be like "Oh covid is over, take off your masks".
I don’t watch/read the big 3 networks for national news, let alone the other two bottom of the barrel.
But I’m seeing that too on a local level and on the other places I get my US/world news. It’s as if Covid is disappearing; while that may be true (#’s down) in some places it is not in others.
Not quite sure what the agenda is, but there is always an agenda.
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In Europe all Pro Russian media sources are now banned.
The individual is not allowed to see alternative news sources.
If this is of little consequence to you people you deserve what you get.
Russia is attempting a regime change?
Bush and Blair….. Iraq, Libya and attempted regime change in Syria?
You people have a short memory
Has WWIII started yet? No? That’s a suprise :old:
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The war has definitely replaced covid for the excuse of all things bad...
It is the latest distraction for sure
Cutting off Russia oil will give them a bs excuse for even higher gas and everything related prices
Eagler
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Zack1234 kind of has a point. I noticed that just as this war started the media be like "Oh covid is over, take off your masks".
Not sure about all states, but in my experience you are incorrect. Cases have been on a very steep decline well before the Russia/Ukraine invasion. In NY for example, the mask mandate was lifted 14 days prior. :)
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In Europe all Pro Russian media sources are now banned.
The individual is not allowed to see alternative news sources.
because they follow the Russian excuse that they're trying to stop nazis.
is that the alternative news you want to listen to?
semp
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because they follow the Russian excuse that they're trying to stop nazis.
is that the alternative news you want to listen to?
semp
Freedom of the press is not just an American ideal…
The viewer/reader should have the freedom to see all angles and decide for themselves. Unless the prevailing view is we plebs are no more intelligent than sheep.
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Freedom of the press is not just an American ideal…
The viewer/reader should have the freedom to see all angles and decide for themselves. Unless the prevailing view is we plebs are no more intelligent than sheep.
except Russia doesn't have freedom of the press, in fact you will go to jail for 15 years for posting or reporting anything they say is misleading.
that isn't news. so I don't care to listen to it.
semp
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except Russia doesn't have freedom of the press, in fact you will go to jail for 15 years for posting or reporting anything they say is misleading.
that isn't news. so I don't care to listen to it.
semp
Zach said in Europe any news that is pro Russian is being prohibited…
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Zach said in Europe any news that is pro Russian is being prohibited…
isn't parts of Russia in Europe?
semp
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isn't parts of Russia in Europe?
semp
The region of Russia west (from N to S) of Moscow yes. But why would Russia censor/ban their own Pro Russian news?? :headscratch:
You’re either being intentionally obtuse (for what reason I can not figure) or drinking heavily today. When someone that lives in the UK (or elsewhere in Europe) says “Europe” I’d imagine it’s extremely rare they’re speaking about Russia.
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isn't parts of Russia in Europe?
semp
No read a history book and a map :old:
Ivan the terrible tried to bring the Russians into the western sphere but is still Asiatic.
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because they follow the Russian excuse that they're trying to stop nazis.
is that the alternative news you want to listen to?
semp
So ban it?
So your happy with censorship ?
Shameful
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Not sure about all states, but in my experience you are incorrect. Cases have been on a very steep decline well before the Russia/Ukraine invasion. In NY for example, the mask mandate was lifted 14 days prior. :)
:rofl
Your funny
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So ban it?
So your happy with censorship ?
Shameful
They got away with political censorship in the states .. can't be canceled from social media..the horror
So now they will censor all info and you will be happy
Because we are too stupid to determine what the truth is ourselves..just ask them
1984 a few years late
Eagler
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So ban it?
So your happy with censorship ?
Shameful
when isn't news at all then yes I'm happy. no point in wasting time.
semp
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when isn't news at all then yes I'm happy. no point in wasting time.
semp
I see.
Ok, then you’re not actually in favor of a free press. You indicate censorship is good and you’re happy with it because YOU do not deem it to be news worthy.
So you live in a Semp-Centric reality.
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I see.
Ok, then you’re not actually in favor of a free press. You indicate censorship is good and you’re happy with it because YOU don not deem it to be news worthy.
So you live in a Semp-Centric reality.
Russia doesn't have a free press. if europe wants to remove russian reporters or whatever, it doesn't bother me.
don't worry here in the usa the russian press is still active. I could listen to them but I won't.
semp
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Russia doesn't have a free press. if europe wants to remove russian reporters or whatever, it doesn't bother me.
don't worry here in the usa the russian press is still active. I could listen to them but I won't.
semp
It's good to know what is motivating the other side...
Obviously your side doesn't think that and to me that is worrisome.
I haven't trusted the media or governments for many years so I don't want them spoon feeding me the "facts" they deemed I am to hear...
Most ppl are too lazy/dumb to dig out the truth as it takes time and thought...they'd rather pick a channel/ theme and swallow its slanted narrow view/agenda as the truth.. and then tune in and watch something more important like the masked singer/the view/jerry springer/majority of most so called entertainment today..
Brain dead lot the majority of them...
Eagler
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The US imports 6 hundred thousand barrels of oil of Russia :rofl
Biden has reduced imports from Canada.
WWIII :rofl
Putin is laughing at you bending the knee and supporting Greta Thumberg :rofl
Lets see how pro Ukrainian you are in August when petrol is $14 a gallon :rofl
Biden is still negotiating a nuclear deal with Iran at PRESENT via Russia :rofl
WWIII :rofl