General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: -gg- on July 17, 2022, 11:47:15 PM
Title: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: -gg- on July 17, 2022, 11:47:15 PM
Pretty incredible. The other electric car, the Lucid is the second fastest sedan in the history of the world. I think we know what is first.
Watch the video and listen to some of these specs. For instance, the Lucid has three times the HP of the fastest car from 20 years ago - using 1/8th the energy
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Post by: Mano on July 18, 2022, 01:58:00 PM
watch the videos when the Plaid races the Lamborghini, McLaren, and the Porsche. None of them were even close to the Plaid. A four door sedan beats super cars that cost a lot more.
:rofl
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Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2022, 02:01:39 PM
I'll be impressed when the race for 5 or 6 hours.
semp
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: -gg- on July 18, 2022, 02:08:59 PM
I thought it was incredible that they spotted the BMW a 75 mph running start and after the start the BMW floored it. So basically from a rolling start of 75 miles per hour and then stomping on the pedal from the fastest sedan in the world from 20 years ago, the Tesla caught up to it and beat it by the end of a quarter mile run. That's just amazing speed.
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Post by: knorB on July 18, 2022, 05:26:43 PM
Now race the 24 hour Rolex and get back to me.
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Post by: sparky127 on July 18, 2022, 06:33:15 PM
Why do people get almost violently angry when electric cars are brought up? I believe our corporatists have us (read YOU) trained in an almost Pavlovian style. I worked with a guy few years back. He was making like $12 an hour and commuting 100 miles a day.. He drove an old beat up f250 dually... Probably got 8 miles to the gallon. He never complained about it though.. One day I said... "Ski (that was his nickname), why the heck don't you get a little economy crap box that gets good mileage to drive back and forth to work in?" He got visibly shaking angry at the prospect... "Men drive trucks. I wouldn't get caught dead driving a bling blanging CAR. Cars are for women."
This is the same sort of reaction I see whenever I see someone suggest that maybe an electric car might be a good option in some situations..
Just an observation.
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: -gg- on July 18, 2022, 08:21:32 PM
That Plaid makes three times the HP while using 1/8th the energy of that BMW. It's astounding how fast that car is.
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: sparky127 on July 18, 2022, 09:48:40 PM
My boss/bud has the cheap one. It's easily the fastest car I've ever ridden in. And I've ridden in some fast ones. He's been using it for a 140 mile daily commute for two years. It's yet to give him any trouble. "ooh.. wait til it needs a battery.." "oohh... wait til the battery goes dead and there's no charger..' "ooohhh... If it catches fire they won't be able to put it out..." Meh.. Better start getting used to the idea; the internal combustion engine is dead.
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2022, 07:30:24 AM
I am more impressed with electric use on locomotives where it makes more sense.
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: RotBaron on July 19, 2022, 07:42:38 AM
My boss/bud has the cheap one. It's easily the fastest car I've ever ridden in. And I've ridden in some fast ones. He's been using it for a 140 mile daily commute for two years. It's yet to give him any trouble. "ooh.. wait til it needs a battery.." "oohh... wait til the battery goes dead and there's no charger..' "ooohhh... If it catches fire they won't be able to put it out..." Meh.. Better start getting used to the idea; the internal combustion engine is dead.
90% of the US can’t afford any type of new car without borrowing “financing” the large majority of the price. Until that changes, who cares how it’s powered?
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: icepac on July 19, 2022, 03:37:02 PM
175mph
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Post by: icepac on July 19, 2022, 03:58:16 PM
A lot of fossil fuel is used to produce any car, tesla included.
Fossil fuel is also used to produce the electricity to power a tesla.
I'm all for electric vehicles but the time is still not right.
Lets see how the western grid holds out this summer before tacking on extra loads.
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Post by: Shuffler on July 19, 2022, 04:14:05 PM
This is an interesting video....
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Post by: MiloMorai on July 19, 2022, 04:59:58 PM
A lot of fossil fuel is used to produce any car, tesla included.
Fossil fuel is also used to produce the electricity to power a tesla.
I'm all for electric vehicles but the time is still not right.
Lets see how the western grid holds out this summer before tacking on extra loads.
With the latest heat wave, there is talk that Texas will have rolling brown outs.
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Post by: -gg- on July 19, 2022, 08:57:54 PM
I just saw a TED talk about the actual carbon output of electric vehicles when the battery production and energy for charging is factored in - and also taking into account the shortened range of EVs
So right now they are not really breaking even compared to regular gas vehicles, all things considered - and they did figure in the costs of both in the chain.
Batteries require materials that are harder to get.
I'm not ant-electric vehicle at all, but right now they really are not cutting carbon emissions. One thing though is that electric vehicles are way more efficient in their energy to power output.
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Post by: sparky127 on July 19, 2022, 10:27:08 PM
90% of the US can’t afford any type of new car without borrowing “financing” the large majority of the price. Until that changes, who cares how it’s powered?
How much do you think a tesla costs?
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Post by: Vulcan on July 20, 2022, 02:18:30 AM
I'm not ant-electric vehicle at all, but right now they really are not cutting carbon emissions. One thing though is that electric vehicles are way more efficient in their energy to power output.
This problem has so many layers. The most fundamental is as pointed out earlier in the thread that we are simply moving the problem around under the rug. Until we have mass cheap generation we're still buggered.
Plus EVs are expensive, I can buy (new) a mid-range diesel 4WD SUV which meets my needs for around 1/4-1/5th the price of a Tesla (which cannot get close to meeting my needs, of which 175mph is definitely not).
I think for me the reason EVs raise my ire is the are representative of everything that is wrong with the greenie movement. It's also about appearances, very little if any actually achieves anything. Right now I see my country (NZ) in a death spiral, our government is so focused on virtue signalling they are destroying our farming and other primary sectors (which guess what, this country relies on for it's gdp).
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: RotBaron on July 20, 2022, 04:21:18 AM
That Plaid makes three times the HP while using 1/8th the energy of that BMW. It's astounding how fast that car is.
Because life is more than a 1/4 mile at a time. It is a nice piece of tech but I can’t justify buying an ev in my current situation. The the cost doesn’t outweigh the benefit.
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Post by: -gg- on July 20, 2022, 08:56:47 AM
This problem has so many layers. The most fundamental is as pointed out earlier in the thread that we are simply moving the problem around under the rug. Until we have mass cheap generation we're still buggered.
Plus EVs are expensive, I can buy (new) a mid-range diesel 4WD SUV which meets my needs for around 1/4-1/5th the price of a Tesla (which cannot get close to meeting my needs, of which 175mph is definitely not).
I think for me the reason EVs raise my ire is the are representative of everything that is wrong with the greenie movement. It's also about appearances, very little if any actually achieves anything. Right now I see my country (NZ) in a death spiral, our government is so focused on virtue signalling they are destroying our farming and other primary sectors (which guess what, this country relies on for it's gdp).
I feel the same way. I'm not against electric vehicles, but I'm also not going to just eat up the propaganda that they are carbon neutral or even better for the environment. They will be at that point someday I'm sure.
But I feel the same way as you do on all counts.
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: -gg- on July 20, 2022, 08:57:29 AM
Because life is more than a 1/4 mile at a time. It is a nice piece of tech but I can’t justify buying an ev in my current situation. The the cost doesn’t outweigh the benefit.
That wasn't even the point of this. Lol. Who's this to show how fast it is. And it is amazingly fast.
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Post by: Shuffler on July 20, 2022, 04:13:21 PM
With the latest heat wave, there is talk that Texas will have rolling brown outs.
Just talk among folks who do not know. ERCOT will ask that people and businesses cut energy use in times of high use, if they have some plants in maintenance or down for some other reason. It is precautionary. They keep running tabs on expected use and expected availability. It is called planning and it seems to work pretty good most of the time.
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Post by: Shuffler on July 20, 2022, 04:14:43 PM
Because life is more than a 1/4 mile at a time. It is a nice piece of tech but I can’t justify buying an ev in my current situation. The the cost doesn’t outweigh the benefit.
At this time.... lots of cost and really no benefit. Some day they will come around and the tech will catch up though.
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: sparky127 on July 21, 2022, 07:16:28 AM
$43k. About $1500 above what the average cost of a new car is in the US. Do you guys always spew off on subjects you have no clue about?
(Rhetorical questing)
2/3 of USA make less than $75k there Sparkles.
The biggest expenses for households are rent/mortgage, then household expenses, children, healthcare insurance etc…
I don’t have any wild idea what you’re trying to get at, but like I said about 90% of cars purchases must be financed. Oops, sorry I was 5% off :rolleyes:
——-According to recent car loan statistics, the vast majority of new vehicles hitting the road in 2019 were financed with a lease or a loan - 85%, about the same as in 2018. More of the used cars were financed, however: 55.5% compared to 54% in 2018.
Tell me how I haven’t a clue about this again please. Want more sources?
Title: Re: Just how fast is the Tesla Plaid? Watch and see
Post by: -gg- on July 21, 2022, 08:05:40 AM
I couldn't get in any EV and drive from Los Angeles to Phoenix - as I do sometimes. Unless I want the trip to take an extra day and be stuck charging it.
I would use an EV for everyday driving, and it would meet my needs I think. It's not a replacement for my Explorer. I need to carry stuff. Tools and parts.
The Ford Lightening looks really promising - I mean that thing seems very impressive with a lot of neat features. Still, I do not need a truck. A truck bed is usually a waste since I would not use it. Give me a Limited or above Explorer and I might be looking at that.
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Post by: sparky127 on July 21, 2022, 09:28:28 AM
The biggest expenses for households are rent/mortgage, then household expenses, children, healthcare insurance etc…
I don’t have any wild idea what you’re trying to get at, but like I said about 90% of cars purchases must be financed. Oops, sorry I was 5% off :rolleyes:
——-According to recent car loan statistics, the vast majority of new vehicles hitting the road in 2019 were financed with a lease or a loan - 85%, about the same as in 2018. More of the used cars were financed, however: 55.5% compared to 54% in 2018.
Tell me how I haven’t a clue about this again please. Want more sources?
Almost 50% of Americans pay more for a new vehicle that a base model Tesla costs.
I don't know how to make it any clearer for you. The fact that new cars cost more than most people can afford to pay cash for is not germane to this discussion.
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Post by: Maverick on July 21, 2022, 09:40:10 AM
For those considering a ford lightning in particular and really any EV you should look at this video. You may be spending more than you think if you MUST have it. Retired Auto dealer and his Son do a lot of checking on trends in the auto business. Their videos are usually pretty darn good including what to watch out for in buying a car new or used at a dealer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtbIi1SL6lk
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Post by: RotBaron on July 21, 2022, 07:21:20 PM
Almost 50% of Americans pay more for a new vehicle that a base model Tesla costs.
I don't know how to make it any clearer for you. The fact that new cars cost more than most people can afford to pay cash for is not germane to this discussion.
Oh? Most should not buy one to keep a good financial overall picture, but yah not germane. :rolleyes:
Let me know when you can drive for 5-6hours without necessity to recharge. Oh wait not germane.
Now, where is my ‘spew off on subjects you have no clue about?’
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Post by: sparky127 on July 21, 2022, 08:12:01 PM
For those considering a ford lightning in particular and really any EV you should look at this video. You may be spending more than you think if you MUST have it. Retired Auto dealer and his Son do a lot of checking on trends in the auto business. Their videos are usually pretty darn good including what to watch out for in buying a car new or used at a dealer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtbIi1SL6lk
Just watched this. Nuts. But people will pay that. For now. They know it's going to be a hot item and the idiots that pay these prices are just like the idiots that paid outrageous prices for the stupid, ugly and now worthless Chrysler PT cruisers.
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Post by: sparky127 on July 21, 2022, 08:24:24 PM
My boss/bud has the cheap one. It's easily the fastest car I've ever ridden in. And I've ridden in some fast ones. He's been using it for a 140 mile daily commute for two years. It's yet to give him any trouble. "ooh.. wait til it needs a battery.." "oohh... wait til the battery goes dead and there's no charger..' "ooohhh... If it catches fire they won't be able to put it out..." Meh.. Better start getting used to the idea; the internal combustion engine is dead.
I’ve probably seen less than a dozen gas stations close down in my life, none of them being recent.
A round trip from LA to San Diego is barely possible IF traffic isn’t too heavy - not sure how that’s moving any goal posts. It’s relevant to EVs being mainstay.
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Post by: sparky127 on July 21, 2022, 09:41:34 PM
Musk will figure it out. In the meantime, an electric car is perfect for a daily commute, which is where most people put most of their miles on a car.
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Post by: -gg- on July 22, 2022, 10:27:49 PM
Check this race out. The video is kind of irriatating but the Mustang and the race is neat.
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Post by: Bopgun on July 23, 2022, 05:34:40 AM
Buying used cars and keeping them running is the most carbon conscious way to own a motor vehicle. Letting your old cars rot in a landfill is no bueno. Also Elon Musk is a hack and Tesla is a scam.
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Post by: -gg- on July 23, 2022, 09:52:11 AM
I think that's true about used cars. I've never boughten a used car. I usually get something about 4 or 5 years old and in really good shape.
I don't think many people would honestly say that Elon musk is a hack. And I don't think Tesla is a scam. Tesla is almost single-handedly responsible for showing that an electric car can be feasible.
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Post by: Arlo on July 23, 2022, 01:39:12 PM