General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: -gg- on July 21, 2022, 09:09:43 PM
Title: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 21, 2022, 09:09:43 PM
All we have to do is dream.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: zack1234 on July 22, 2022, 07:58:49 AM
CUT & PASTE :rofl
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 22, 2022, 08:23:46 AM
You never post any information about anything. You only sit back and toss out one-liners and snipe at people. Anytime you do post information, it's usually a troll and you are completely wrong. Like your "China has the fastest train" thread.
You're not very intelligent that I've seen. I doubt you are a native to the UK - I can tell by your very poor grammar and choice of words. Very minimalistic and simplistic.
You think that you're funny I guess. Well, you're not. You're not even a good troll.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: FLS on July 22, 2022, 01:53:23 PM
Zach is funny.
Karen has a list of faults.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: AKIron on July 22, 2022, 02:23:41 PM
I know an easier way to go green. Just prohibit coal mining and obstruct all oil production. No one will be able to afford to drive or heat and cool their homes. Green as you can get. :aok
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Eagler on July 22, 2022, 02:30:36 PM
They would say the fireplaces and horse farts are destroying the planet...
Green isn't about green energy its about new green monies in the pockets of the most powerful
Eagler
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: zack1234 on July 23, 2022, 12:49:09 PM
You never post any information about anything. You only sit back and toss out one-liners and snipe at people. Anytime you do post information, it's usually a troll and you are completely wrong. Like your "China has the fastest train" thread.
You're not very intelligent that I've seen. I doubt you are a native to the UK - I can tell by your very poor grammar and choice of words. Very minimalistic and simplistic.
You think that you're funny I guess. Well, you're not. You're not even a good troll.
4 nil to me
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 23, 2022, 12:55:59 PM
Yeah, that's great that you find him funny. He's abusive and abrasive. Probably breaks the forum rules every other post if not every post. He doesn't post anything substantive other than to snipe out other people and troll. But you find him funny. That's great for you. You know you represent aces high in some capacity with that title in your name. Aces high trainer. Just goes to show.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: FLS on July 23, 2022, 10:43:09 PM
I might have Zach completely wrong but I don't have a problem with that.
Moderating is somebody else's job, not mine. It certainly isn't yours.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Arlo on July 23, 2022, 10:47:10 PM
I might have Zach completely wrong but I don't have a problem with that.
Moderating is somebody else's job, not mine. It certainly isn't yours.
You don't even have a clue about me and my attitude towards moderation. I have had a forum for some 14 years and people said all kinds of things about me - and no one got banned or moderated for any of it. People have called me all kinds of names and said all kinds of things to me and I never even moderated one thing.
So if you think that I'm some kind of Karen, you are 100 percent wrong.
I was pointing out how you thought Zach was great - and that I am somehow a problem. I couldn't care less what Zack says or does. My point was that you seem to get a kick out of him and all he does is insult people and harass.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: FLS on July 24, 2022, 09:07:50 AM
All I have to go by are your posts. I'm not going to catalog them for you.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Puma44 on July 24, 2022, 10:05:26 AM
Trudeau is placing some kind of ban or limits on fertilizer - even though the farming provinces are begging him not to do it. He says it's to reduce greenhouse emissions.
This kind of thing is insanity.
In other news, Canada has a cricket farm and they are having actors telling us how great it is to eat bugs. Crickets are good protein and they don't put out much emissions. See where this is going?
Order up a bowl of cricket past and save the planet.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Eagler on July 26, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
Many think many of these shortages are avoidable and were planned as some seem to be piling on the problems instead of solving them..
And yes its all about trying to control the weather .... so they say..it should all work out well, just like the other bs our governments feed us..
Eagler
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: zack1234 on July 26, 2022, 10:41:12 AM
People in Africa are going to starve this year because fertiliser prices have been increased.
BLM :rofl
Not in Africa :rofl
White liberals hiding their racism behind virtue signalling :rofl
It’s always others who have to change.
Bill gates talking about the environment while owning 5 sports cars.
Gates says he had saved lots of people with his polio vaccines but they are not allowed to have children in Africa. :rofl
Gates the evil racist
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: guncrasher on July 26, 2022, 02:48:52 PM
Trudeau is placing some kind of ban or limits on fertilizer - even though the farming provinces are begging him not to do it. He says it's to reduce greenhouse emissions.
This kind of thing is insanity.
In other news, Canada has a cricket farm and they are having actors telling us how great it is to eat bugs. Crickets are good protein and they don't put out much emissions. See where this is going?
Order up a bowl of cricket past and save the planet.
crickets or grasshoppers? grasshoppers are a great source of protein, tasty as hell too, roasted with garlic chili it's heaven. just don't eat the 2 long legs, they may hurt your gums.
if you have never eaten bugs, you are giving up on a whole new world of food. me, I'll eat bugs but not pancakes or Mac and cheese, that's just nasty.
semp
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Shuffler on July 26, 2022, 03:04:26 PM
I have tried grasshoppers. If I had to, I'd do that again.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 26, 2022, 03:33:51 PM
You know, if you want to eat bugs I'm not going to stop you. What I think they're getting at though is that they want to control emissions to the point of getting rid of beef. What I believe is that they are so cockamamie that they will try to push cricket protein on us as a green way of having protein.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: guncrasher on July 26, 2022, 03:50:21 PM
You know, if you want to eat bugs I'm not going to stop you. What I think they're getting at though is that they want to control emissions to the point of getting rid of beef. What I believe is that they are so cockamamie that they will try to push cricket protein on us as a green way of having protein.
some people in America for a hundred years have been pushing for veggies only diet. Canada didn't start it we did.
but sure believe that Canada is pushing it. ever been to Loma Linda? you can't even have any kind of meat in your private room.
lot's of religions around the world have been pushing veggies diets for thousands of years. and you just noticed it. funny.
misinformation at its best
semp
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 26, 2022, 04:41:05 PM
I'm not sure if you are being obtuse? I'm not saying that people voluntarily being vegetarian or avoiding meat is bad. What I'm saying is that what I feel is coming is that they are going to ban beef or severely restrict or tax it in the name of climate change. So people that enjoy beef and meat will be demonized. They already are. It's already happening. This world is getting nuttier all the time. People are pushing crazy agendas these days and the scary thing is that they are actually succeeding at some of it
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: guncrasher on July 26, 2022, 05:08:20 PM
I'm not sure if you are being obtuse? I'm not saying that people voluntarily being vegetarian or avoiding meat is bad. What I'm saying is that what I feel is coming is that they are going to ban beef or severely restrict or tax it in the name of climate change. So people that enjoy beef and meat will be demonized. They already are. It's already happening. This world is getting nuttier all the time. People are pushing crazy agendas these days and the scary thing is that they are actually succeeding at some of it
it's a far cry from reducing fertilizer to stop raising meat. you feel that, but it isn't happening.
you also mentioned they're trying to make us eat bugs. that's another option for food, same as vegetarian, vegan or whatever other choice we got.
semp
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 26, 2022, 05:12:50 PM
it's a far cry from reducing fertilizer to stop raising meat. you feel that, but it isn't happening.
you also mentioned they're trying to make us eat bugs. that's another option for food, same as vegetarian, vegan or whatever other choice we got.
semp
two different stories. One about banning fertilizers and the other is about the cricket farm.
I didn't say that they are trying to make us eat bugs- I said that I feel they are going to slowly start to restrict farmers and beef production in the name of climate change. You can close your eyes, but it's happening right now. That's why they are restricting the fertilizer in Canada. Climate change.
You wait and see.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Arlo on July 26, 2022, 06:00:56 PM
two different stories. One about banning fertilizers and the other is about the cricket farm.
I didn't say that they are trying to make us eat bugs- I said that I feel they are going to slowly start to restrict farmers and beef production in the name of climate change. You can close your eyes, but it's happening right now. That's why they are restricting the fertilizer in Canada. Climate change.
You wait and see.
there's 1.5 billion Hindus that believe cows are sacred and not food. only like 500 Canadians.
I feel Hindus are more of a threat to my steaks than the 500 Canadians.
semp
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: MiloMorai on July 26, 2022, 10:07:51 PM
How many acres are required for cattle? How much extra feed (grown on land that could be used for human consumption) is fed cattle? How much fuel is required to get them to the slaughter house? How much energy is required to refrigerate the meat?
A 'bug' factory the size of a football field could feed 100s of 1000s of people at a fraction of what it costs for beef.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: FLS on July 26, 2022, 10:56:41 PM
Beef is better than bugs.
Farmers are dumping cows now due to the drought so price inflation isn't as high yet but next year there may be less available.
If you need food use the corn going to ethanol.
We don't have an energy shortage unless we go 'green'.
Sri Lanka went green. Hence the riots.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: MiloMorai on July 26, 2022, 11:18:02 PM
Bugs are cheaper by a VERY long way than beef.
We crave meat today, in part, because our brains evolved on the African savanna and are still wired to seek out energy-dense sources of protein. It’s similar to our penchant for sugar, a rare calorie-rich commodity to our foraging ancestors whose brains rewarded them for finding ripe fruit.
But we also crave meat because of its cultural significance. Different cultures are more or less meat-centric, although there’s a clear correlation between wealth and meat consumption. Industrialized Western nations average more than 220 pounds of meat per person per year, while the poorest African nations average less than 22 pounds per person.
An overly meaty diet has been linked to heart disease, diabetes and certain cancers—things our distant ancestors never had to worry about, because they didn’t live long enough to fall victim to chronic disease. “The goals of life for our ancestors was very different than ours,” says Zaraska. “Their goal was to survive to the next day.”
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 26, 2022, 11:36:00 PM
See what I mean? There are actually people out there just like Milo that are going to make it happen. Bugs are better for the planet, so you're gonna eat bugs. No more wasted farmland.
This is happening. These people are going to ram it down our throats.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: MiloMorai on July 27, 2022, 12:03:56 AM
IN YOUR BAKED GOODS Cricket powder is one of the easiest sources of bug protein to integrate into your diet, because it can be used like any protein powder that you might add to a recipe. Due to its increasing popularity, it’s also not too difficult to find. Use cricket powder to make breads, energy bars, and baked desserts that are protein rich. If you can’t find insect flour in your local area, you can try making your own at home. Check out these tasty recipes you can try at home.
AS A SALTY-SNACK ALTERNATIVE TO CHIPS Food grade mealworms are also relatively easy to find online and in local markets that cater to Eastern cuisine. To eat them, all you have to do is fry them in your preferred vegetable oil (use a slotted spoon to make removal easier) and let them rest on a paper towel. Add a bit of salt and pepper to taste, and you have a salty snack that is rich in amino acids, protein, and fibre.
ON TOP OF YOUR PASTA DISHES Fried crickets make an excellent addition to a variety of dishes. You can fry them using the same method as you did with the meal worms and add them on top of a risotto for a bit of extra texture and protein. They are also commonly used as a taco topping or even as an appetizer dipped in a side of guacamole.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: MiloMorai on July 27, 2022, 12:12:19 AM
See what I mean? There are actually people out there just like Milo that are going to make it happen. Bugs are better for the planet, so you're gonna eat bugs. No more wasted farmland.
This is happening. These people are going to ram it down our throats.
holly cow. how did you misunderstand Milo's post. I like bugs, too bad I can't find them here and if I do they're expensive.
does that mean I'm trying to get rid of my steaks? no, it's another option for me. I've eaten ants, grasshoppers, beetles, snakes, rabbit, birds, raccoons, frog legs some other stuff I don't even know what it was.
you ever had mountain oysters, ox tail, pigs feet, cow heart, tripe, chilling, cow fetuses, ducks, chicken feet, gizzard and a thousand other parts.
I won't eat anything with barbq sauce or a1 that's where I draw the line. that's just nasty.
but sure me mention it that means I want to get rid of cows. I also eat lots of vegetarian and vegan meals. oh the horror.
by the way if you don't want anything shoved down your throat then stop shoving bs down ours. this isn't the blue oyster.
semp
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: RotBaron on July 27, 2022, 04:28:37 AM
Unintended consequences considered? :uhoh
I’ve walked onto my patio and found a dozen plus crickets eating an adult AZ Bark scorpion.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: guncrasher on July 27, 2022, 04:44:30 AM
How many acres are required for cattle? How much extra feed (grown on land that could be used for human consumption) is fed cattle? How much fuel is required to get them to the slaughter house? How much energy is required to refrigerate the meat?
A 'bug' factory the size of a football field could feed 100s of 1000s of people at a fraction of what it costs for beef.
Lots of feed for cattle is leftover from making food for humans.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Eagler on July 27, 2022, 07:43:39 AM
Me thinks the currency reset is needed first before total control can be enforced...
Once your bank account is only crypto controlled by the fed, how and where you spend your money will be regulated much easier..
It will be said to be for your own good as you obviously can't control yourself..
It will be tied to climate change and overall health
You will own nothing and be happy..
That is coming..
Eagler
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: FLS on July 27, 2022, 01:31:13 PM
We crave meat today, in part, because our brains evolved on the African savanna and are still wired to seek out energy-dense sources of protein. It’s similar to our penchant for sugar, a rare calorie-rich commodity to our foraging ancestors whose brains rewarded them for finding ripe fruit.
But we also crave meat because of its cultural significance. Different cultures are more or less meat-centric, although there’s a clear correlation between wealth and meat consumption. Industrialized Western nations average more than 220 pounds of meat per person per year, while the poorest African nations average less than 22 pounds per person.
An overly meaty diet has been linked to heart disease, diabetes and certain cancers—things our distant ancestors never had to worry about, because they didn’t live long enough to fall victim to chronic disease. “The goals of life for our ancestors was very different than ours,” says Zaraska. “Their goal was to survive to the next day.”
There are a lot of BS studies promoting non-meat diets. Most of my life I was misinformed about butter, bacon, red meat, and fats. Fortunately I didn't listen. Now I'm 67 and I can still ride 100 miles in a day on my bicycle. The big problem for most people is sugars.
BTW don't confuse average life span with individual life span. Some early people lived to old age, there were just so many ways to die young.
People eat bugs when they can't get meat. 'Green' is a con game. The people pushing it have believed every trendy disaster scenario in the last 50 years.
The sky still hasn't fallen and it won't fall next time. We have these nursery stories for a reason.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: MiloMorai on July 27, 2022, 02:48:10 PM
Moderation is the word.
The sugar companies did a lot of lobbying, like the oil companies did for oil use, and tobacco companies for cigarettes, to make sure we were addicted to sugar.
Now it is said red meat is good for the brain but at times it is hard to tell that that is so. I guess one can OD on red meat.
Some ppl think because they can't see any changes from day to day nothing is happening.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: -gg- on July 27, 2022, 05:38:22 PM
I look forward to the day when I can go to the store to buy a bag of crickets to throw on the barbecue.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Arlo on July 27, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
eaten scorpions, you wanna know what they taste like, wet a piece of newspaper put it in your mouth. that's pretty much it.
semp
I’ll leave eating bugs up to you.
You missed my point entirely though.
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Eagler on July 28, 2022, 06:32:59 AM
Some food control is coming to combat unhealthy lifestyles and out of control health cost
As with other coming changes they will be implemented during such a crisis that the extreme measures such changes will make will be acceptable to the present alternative of that time
The last two years laid some of the ground work..
Eagler
Title: Re: This is how we go green
Post by: Arlo on July 28, 2022, 07:20:30 AM