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Title: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Dichotomy on August 08, 2022, 05:26:49 PM
Always hung my head and sighed when I got that ride in FSO.  Just couldn't ever get comfortable in her while other guys could make her dance on the head of a pin. 

Tips tricks secrets.  Do share gents. 
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: RichardDarkwood on August 08, 2022, 05:30:47 PM
Landing GEAR
Fuel Management
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Lusche on August 08, 2022, 05:31:46 PM
Flaps & manual trim.
Not that I was ever any good at it...  :old:
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Tig on August 08, 2022, 05:59:05 PM
F4U-1 Birdcage all day every day. Gets more perk points, and the viewpoints are all weird on the later Corsairs. The Birdcage, funny enough, gives me the best situational awareness. I've knocked down many-a cocky cannon Corsairs with the Birdcage.
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: whiteman on August 08, 2022, 07:35:58 PM
Rudder, it’s huge and can perform magic. I’m sure Sik1 will be along to answers questions on it.
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Bopgun on August 08, 2022, 07:36:48 PM
F4U-1 Birdcage all day every day. Gets more perk points, and the viewpoints are all weird on the later Corsairs. The Birdcage, funny enough, gives me the best situational awareness. I've knocked down many-a cocky cannon Corsairs with the Birdcage.

Helll yea brotha
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 08, 2022, 08:57:29 PM
I could go on about F4Us forever. It's probably my favorite WW2 fighter. I watched so many Black Sheep shows on trips and craved to play AH after watching them. The F4U4 is hands down the best plane in the game. It's like the temp or spit16 where you are pretty much cheating for flying it  :D The Dhog is my personal favorite. It can out turn any plane and can practically hover due to huge wings and flaps. It's not a "turn fighter" though. It should be flown in high alt E mode for attack missions off the CV to be the most successful. Basically like a P51 or P47 the proper way. While it is extremely successful in the turn fight. It burns a lot of E. Being low on the deck with low E in a turn fight is detrimental to the corsair, fun, but detrimental.
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 09, 2022, 05:20:37 AM
Out of all the F4U types the F4U-1 is the best at sustained turning, throughout every flaps setting....the rest are best sustained turning with 2 notches of flaps out....

F4U-1 will out turn any other F4U after 2 notches....F4U vs F4U any model,  really comes down to the pilot's ability and how the first engagement started. My thoughts anyway

Just got watch, learn and train and keep practicing

Dropping the gear is not a good thing to do,  shot down many a hogs when dogfighting and they dropped that gear!
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Eagler on August 09, 2022, 06:51:17 AM
Making 1/32 scale 1a for the grandson now

Eagler
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: popeye on August 09, 2022, 08:32:10 AM
I like the 1D for dive bombing.  Lowering the gear makes excellent dive brakes, just have to remember to retract them after the drop.
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: TequilaChaser on August 09, 2022, 08:42:50 AM
I like the 1D for dive bombing.  Lowering the gear makes excellent dive brakes, just have to remember to retract them after the drop.

Yes!

I  am recommending that they are not necessary in dogfighting!

There used to be a thread where  Badboy used a film of Sirloin and I (I asked for his permission to use my film for training purposes) were in a long extreme rolling scissors engagement...and  it showed how much E dropping one's gear in a F4U would cost you...

Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Arlo on August 09, 2022, 08:50:04 AM
Yes!

I  am recommending that they are not necessary in dogfighting!

There used to be a thread where  Badboy used a film of Sirloin and I (I asked for his permission to use my film for training purposes) were in a long extreme rolling scissors engagement...and  it showed how much E dropping one's gear in a F4U would cost you...

Dropping them for dive bombing with power on may lead to a nasty surprise.
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: mthrockmor on August 09, 2022, 10:18:22 AM
The Hog is for fat girls with chubby fingers. The A5 is where it's at. At least, that's something I would have said years ago when I flew AH all the time and specialized in the 190. Loose Deuce!

Fun to see so many great sticks posting on this thread!

Boo
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: SIK1 on August 09, 2022, 10:24:08 AM
Not much left for me to say. I'm a corsair nut, and have been since long before the internet. The birdcage is my favorite, it has the best rear views of all the hogs, can be a great perk farmer, and just looks sexy.

All corsairs with the exception of the -4 have poor acceleration, and climb performance. So, If you want to learn the F4U stay out of the -4. It will mask your deficiencies, and let you get into bad habits that will get you killed in the other hogs. The corsair does retain it's E well, but once lost, it takes time to rebuild. The flaps, and rudder are both very effective, but they really drain your E, so use them judiciously. Roll rate is your friend, and can get you out of trouble, or into a favorable position.

Like Violator said getting low and slow can be fun, but normally leads to a quick trip to the tower. As TC said, don't use the landing gear in a dogfight. The main gear was designed and used as a dive brake, and it works great in that role, but really drains to much E to be used in a dogfight. Being successful in the hog is all about energy management.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: morfiend on August 09, 2022, 01:52:32 PM
Not much left for me to say. I'm a corsair nut, and have been since long before the internet. The birdcage is my favorite, it has the best rear views of all the hogs, can be a great perk farmer, and just looks sexy.

All corsairs with the exception of the -4 have poor acceleration, and climb performance. So, If you want to learn the F4U stay out of the -4. It will mask your deficiencies, and let you get into bad habits that will get you killed in the other hogs. The corsair does retain it's E well, but once lost, it takes time to rebuild. The flaps, and rudder are both very effective, but they really drain your E, so use them judiciously. Roll rate is your friend, and can get you out of trouble, or into a favorable position.

Like Violator said getting low and slow can be fun, but normally leads to a quick trip to the tower. As TC said, don't use the landing gear in a dogfight. The main gear was designed and used as a dive brake, and it works great in that role, but really drains to much E to be used in a dogfight. Being successful in the hog is all about energy management.

 :salute
Sik


Good stuff Sik1.


But a long time ago I asked you why the corsair had bent wings and you said it was so it could lift it’s skirt before crossing a puddle….. :devil  :bolt:
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: Tig on August 09, 2022, 01:53:47 PM
But a long time ago I asked you why the corsair had bent wings and you said it was so it could lift it’s skirt before crossing a puddle….. :devil  :bolt:

Nah, they needed to make sure the P&W Double Wasp didn't saw the carrier deck in two.  :x
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: atlau on August 09, 2022, 02:08:09 PM
I like the 1D for dive bombing.  Lowering the gear makes excellent dive brakes, just have to remember to retract them after the drop.

Dive brakes not required :) that thing is controllable at high speed!
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: whiteman on August 09, 2022, 02:16:43 PM
I've never used the gear while dive bombing, I always setup so can carry as much speed as possible on the egress.
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: SIK1 on August 09, 2022, 03:30:15 PM

Good stuff Sik1.


But a long time ago I asked you why the corsair had bent wings and you said it was so it could lift it’s skirt before crossing a puddle….. :devil  :bolt:

I think you misunderstood me. I said it's because we're giving everyone that's not in a hog the middle finger.  :neener:

Dive brakes not required :) that thing is controllable at high speed!

Very true the hog is very controllable in both pitch, and roll at high speed.

I've never used the gear while dive bombing, I always setup so can carry as much speed as possible on the egress.

I rarely use the gear for anything other than landing, but they do work effectively as a dive brake if needed. 

 :salute
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: morfiend on August 09, 2022, 07:28:24 PM
I think you misunderstood me. I said it's because we're giving everyone that's not in a hog the middle finger.  :neener:


 :salute

Ya maybe I remember it wrong and I was the one who said that! :devil



   :salute
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: The Fugitive on August 09, 2022, 08:24:55 PM
I think you misunderstood me. I said it's because we're giving everyone that's not in a hog the middle finger.  :neener:

Very true the hog is very controllable in both pitch, and roll at high speed.

I rarely use the gear for anything other than landing, but they do work effectively as a dive brake if needed. 

 :salute

Did you learn all that stuff from CVA, JB, or Tabasco?   :D
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: SIK1 on August 10, 2022, 08:54:14 AM
Ya maybe I remember it wrong and I was the one who said that! :devil

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Does sound like something you would say.    :D


Did you learn all that stuff from CVA, JB, or Tabasco?   :D

As well as many others.

 :salute
Title: Re: Okay we're having fun now. Let's talk Corsairs
Post by: morfiend on August 10, 2022, 11:22:50 AM
Does sound like something you would say.    :D


As well as many others.

 :salute


 :aok