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Title: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on October 31, 2022, 06:53:46 PM
I've done reached out to some AH(& AW/WB).brothers, to help me get this scheduled  in and around  game events coming up and my trip to Florida the weekend before Thanksgiving (I will be back in NC for  Thanksgiving)  (I've still not been able to find the words to express my thoughts regarding Betty's passing 😢)

Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏 🙂

Sincerely,

TC / Johnny
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Shuffler on November 02, 2022, 10:56:14 AM
I will be there in my PJ for AKAK's memorial.

Due to things out of my control, I missed Betty's memorial.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 02, 2022, 01:38:57 PM
I will be there in my PJ for AKAK's memorial.

Due to things out of my control, I missed Betty's memorial.

Same here regarding Betty's,  brother


We are looking to hold this on Sunday November 20th, no time is set yet...all time preferences are appreciated to help all to be able to be in the memorial flight

<S>

TC / Johnny
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Shuffler on November 02, 2022, 02:20:56 PM
We will have to get more time feedback. I will be there if I am still breathing come hell or high water.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: CAP1 on November 02, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
we lost ack ack too????   :frown:
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: -gg- on November 02, 2022, 11:01:30 PM
He was a friend of mine.

I'm not doing great right now and still dealing with the death of my dad and planning his memorial. I'd like to attend the flight, but I'm kind of useless right now for helping plan it.

Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: -gg- on November 02, 2022, 11:05:00 PM
Once the date/time are set I will post it on my two forums and invite everyone to join.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 02, 2022, 11:52:55 PM
Thanks -gg-, we'll be sure to let you know
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 03, 2022, 12:00:49 AM
We will have to get more time feedback

That's where we are currently stuck.... seems this community didn't understand my op when I typed

"Any help would be greatly appreciated"

I  mean seriously,  it's plain f ing English,  Good Lord!

Need some input from those that care

Sincerely

TC / Johnny
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: oboe on November 03, 2022, 12:03:33 AM
Wonder if we could get 4 P-38 pilots together to do a missing man formation flight, with #3 man peeling off right over the field?

Shuffler, TwinBoom, CorkyJR?   

I loved the outpouring for Betty's flight, once with Typhoons and once with Liberators, which we dove into HQ at the end of the flight.  But it with so many people there, I think it was all the organizers could do to get us all up in the air at more or less the same time, from the same field, and all head for a nearby field.    Some had smoke on, some off, etc.

Wish there was a way we could also have "Taps" play as the missing man is executed, but maybe that's a job for a video editor to add in later?


Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 03, 2022, 12:48:24 AM
Done typed out  a response to you 3 times now oboe brother and my dang right hand has accidentally erased em dangit 🤣 😂 🤣

Thanks for the input and your thoughts regarding Betty's memorial flight....

I  would also think of Drano as 1 of the 4 in the missing man formation if he is able to commit...(may need a few reserves/ alternates)

I  myself have flown several missing man formations over the past 21+ years (that is as far back,  trying to remember when we started this in Aces High)

Any and all help and /or ideas appreciated


<S>

TC  / Johnny
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: oboe on November 03, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
When is your trip to Florida, TC?   I would think we'd want to get this thing off the ground before the end of November, with AKAK's passing on Oct 1st we don't want to wait too long.   

- I'm thinking a weekend evening might be best, a Saturday or Sunday -  maybe even Sunday evening of Thanksgiving weekend?   Or the weekend prior?   Still gives plenty of time for notifications but we want to make sure you are back from your trip.

- We'd need somebody onboard who can set up an arena for us, and hopefully can stick around for the event, giving God-mode blue text instructions on the command channel to everyone who shows up  (e.g. what country to change to, what field to go to, what A/C to spawn, etc).   Jaeger set up the AvA for Betty's flight, and I think Brooke has done a great job with it in all the scenarios he's run.   Maybe we could contact them for assistance.  I'm sure there are other staffers too, who have the knowledge, ability and desire to help out.

- I'm thinking at the beginning of the event, pilots could spawn onto a N-S oriented small airfield, taxi and disperse themselves along the length of both sides of the runway and shut engines down.  People with memories of AK-AK could share, and then maybe 10 minutes in, the Event Host asks for silence and the Honor Flight of P-38Js comes in over the field at 1,000 ft in finger-four formation, out of the south heading north.   #3 man is the only one with smoke on, and just past midfield, he pulls up and away and flies toward the western sunset, while the remaining formation continues north out of sight.   As this occurs, somebody plays a recording of "Taps" over channel 200 vox.   I think transmissions are limited to 4 seconds, so the music person would have to transmit each line of the tune separately.  That might require some coordination between the music guy, the Honor Flight, the event host, and the crowd but if it works it could be very moving.   Back in happier days, during some scenarios both Pipz and I used to play 1940s jazz or swing music clips over squad vox during long flights, and I think it worked OK.

- It should only take a few minutes for this display, and afterward we could all take off and have our massive memorial flight...

Anyway, that's what I envision.  How have your Missing Man flights been organized in the past?   Have they gone off well?    I'm willing to help out however I can.  Between you, me, Shuffler, Drano, Twinboom, Guppy and any other SAPPers we ought to be able to find 4 pilots plus a couple of alternates for the Honor Flight.   I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of, and I apologize for that.   

Everybody, speak up, commit to help, and let's get this thing rolling.   AKAK was another one of our own and deserves the best AH send-off we can put together.

<S>  :salute
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Drano on November 03, 2022, 08:44:32 AM
Done typed out  a response to you 3 times now oboe brother and my dang right hand has accidentally erased em dangit 🤣 😂 🤣

Thanks for the input and your thoughts regarding Betty's memorial flight....

I  would also think of Drano as 1 of the 4 in the missing man formation if he is able to commit...(may need a few reserves/ alternates)

I  myself have flown several missing man formations over the past 21+ years (that is as far back,  trying to remember when we started this in Aces High)

Any and all help and /or ideas appreciated


<S>

TC  / Johnny

TC I'm glad to do it. I did call ya back the other night, BTW. If anyone who's closer to AKAK would like to be part of the missing man I'll absolutely  bow out of it. While we went back to AW and were always friendly, due to time zone differences never really got to be "friends" with AKAK and was never a squaddie of his. Unless you count SAPP. If this crap keeps up even a low life like me will get bumped up into the consortiuim!
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 03, 2022, 11:30:01 AM
I have already bumped my trip to Florida until the weekend after Thanksgiving (7th time bumping it since 1st of September)

I  would like to see Ack-Ack's squadmates (or at least 1 from each squad) and 2 SAPP / which most would be SAPP anyways....(yeah, Subby taught all you baby seals her p-38 secrets back in the day 😉)

Hope others chime in on this.

Drano brother,  no worries 👍

<S>

TC / Johnny
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Mongoose on November 03, 2022, 02:32:48 PM
Count me in.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: RichardDarkwood on November 03, 2022, 02:47:41 PM
Pacific map in the Axis Vs Allies Arena??
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Shuffler on November 03, 2022, 03:25:42 PM
It would be an honor to fly in the missing man formation.
I imagine Jaeger can setup the SEA II for the Memorial. I can ask him. ..

I messaged Jaeger. He should answer back soon.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: oboe on November 03, 2022, 03:42:51 PM
AKAK's last squad was the 479th FG - which I *think* was a 9th AF outfit active in the ETO.   He was the only member however.   I'm sorry I can't recall, but was he active with a larger squad back in the day?
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: captain1ma on November 03, 2022, 06:48:44 PM
just let me know when where and what you want, and ill set it up. AVA or SEA2, either one can be set up as long and nothing is going on in the SEA2.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 03, 2022, 08:00:36 PM
AKAK's last squad was the 479th FG - which I *think* was a 9th AF outfit active in the ETO.   He was the only member however.   I'm sorry I can't recall, but was he active with a larger squad back in the day?


Murdr (Troy) was in the 479th going back to AirWarrior, I have contacted him on the phone and text...am expecting a call from him later (to get a list of cpids (AW) and gameids (AH)

We appreciate all of your input oboe, thank you for your envision of how the script of Ack-Ack's Memorial Flight will be... sounds most excellent!

The best one that happened with barely an issue, was the one the community and the Damned held for Damned Buzzard...but I can't recall if his also had the tanks lined up down both side's of the runway along with planes when the missing man formation flew straight down over the runway....but memory is not that good (barely all I could do just to type out and think/ remember)

I've flew 2 or 3 times and have flown the 3rd slot a few times, this AH community has lost 😢 a lot of players..


<S>

TC / Johnny
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: oboe on November 03, 2022, 08:56:36 PM
Murdr (Troy) was in the 479th going back to AirWarrior, I have contacted him on the phone and text...am expecting a call from him later (to get a list of cpids (AW) and gameids (AH)

We appreciate all of your input oboe, thank you for your envision of how the script of Ack-Ack's Memorial Flight will be... sounds most excellent!

The best one that happened with barely an issue, was the one the community and the Damned held for Damned Buzzard...but I can't recall if his also had the tanks lined up down both side's of the runway along with planes when the missing man formation flew straight down over the runway....but memory is not that good (barely all I could do just to type out and think/ remember)

I've flew 2 or 3 times and have flown the 3rd slot a few times, this AH community has lost 😢 a lot of players..


<S>

TC / Johnny

<S> TC.  Thank you.

It hit me during Betty's memorial that one of the greatest things about AH is this community.  It was really touching that so many people took time to participate in the flight for her.   My vision was just a suggestion to help the get ball rolling, and I don't expect it has to be just the way I described it.   

And I will certainly be available to step in for any role you guys need me for!

       

 
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Guppy35 on November 04, 2022, 07:53:38 PM
I'll find the time to be there.  A SAPP flight for AKAK. 
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Hajo on November 05, 2022, 10:15:20 AM
Just let us know........I'll even attend in one of Guppy's old crashed P38s.

  (I'll contact him about parts availability.)

All to respect an old and good foe.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Flossy on November 07, 2022, 09:43:00 AM
15:00 Eastern time has long been proven to be the best time for any event to get maximum participation from around the world.  That would be my preference.  :)
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Guppy35 on November 07, 2022, 09:03:05 PM
AKAK's last squad was the 479th FG - which I *think* was a 9th AF outfit active in the ETO.   He was the only member however.   I'm sorry I can't recall, but was he active with a larger squad back in the day?

479th was 8th AF.  The 479th went back to the Airwarrior days. 
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: oboe on November 07, 2022, 10:54:34 PM
479th was 8th AF.  The 479th went back to the Airwarrior days.

Right you are, Dan.   479th FG was the last FG to join the 8th, on 14 May 1944.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Shuffler on November 09, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
SAPP has a very large roster of past and present players.

This is the original Consortium of 12... a few recognizable names.

Consortium of 12
Skuzzy = Grand Exalted Ruler of the Consortium of 12 ex officio
CokryJR = Exalted Ruler pro tempore
Raptor = Exalted Ruler pro tempore emeritus
AKAK= Esteemed Leading Knight of Oxygen and altitidue
Murdr = Esteemed Loyal Knight of the Duct Tape
Shuffler = Esteemed Lecturing Knight of the Blender
Estes = Gracious Secretary
Delirium = Treasurer
Soulyss= Inner Guard
SaVage = Esquire
Mensa = Eunuch
Fianna = Organist

Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Molsman on November 09, 2022, 11:09:27 PM
I won’t be here for the flight but I have trying to find the screenshot that last time Ack and I merged he was in the 38 of death and I was in my 109 we were so close it was picture perfect and after the merge I actually won against the best 38 pilot . It has a purple smoke back ground if anyone can find that on the screenshot forum maybe 8 years lol
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: oboe on November 15, 2022, 07:47:15 AM
Wondering now if we want to add Challenger to this Memorial Flight.   Perhaps have two missing man formations?

Not sure what aircraft was Challenger's favorite.   He sure did a nice job with the P-47 and P-51 engine sounds...
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Molsman on November 15, 2022, 09:39:18 PM
I will be there in spirit Ack-Ack and I were squaddies for a long time back in the 90s and taught me how to belly flop the 38 pretty good. Shooting stuff down with it was a totally different story.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Brooke on November 16, 2022, 05:21:16 PM
Has the day and time been set yet?
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Molsman on November 16, 2022, 10:14:48 PM
479th was 8th AF.  The 479th went back to the Airwarrior days.

The 479th Riddlar Raiders was formed back in Air Warrior after Vet disbanded the 86th Eliminators. Tkor toot over as CO then and all became known as the Raiders from the end of Air Warrior til the Early Days of Aces High. Jose flew that squadron tag for all of his Aces High days and never joined to my knowledge a new squad. So that tag was his pride n joy
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: TequilaChaser on November 17, 2022, 03:41:12 PM
Has the day and time been set yet?

Hey Brooke,  I  was hoping more players would have posted their preferences as Flossy did in the following quote:
15:00 Eastern time has long been proven to be the best time for any event to get maximum participation from around the world.  That would be my preference.  :)

I know that we had discussed of possibility of having it on the upcoming Sunday November 20th, 2022 (no established time set yet)

My apologies for my absence,  ... Shuffler and SAPP  and P38 aficionados hope in here and take what oboe has described as a mock-up and run with it...

If not this weekend (Sunday then most definitely the weekend after Thanksgiving (Sunday)

Opinions/ thoughts/ views/ advice  ????
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Brooke on November 17, 2022, 04:12:21 PM
My suggestions:

I would say have it on a Friday night (say 8 pm Eastern or later), or a Sat any time after, say, 3 pm Eastern.  Those are generally near the time of FSO's and Scenarios that are calculated to fit the most player schedules.

I would probably (given we are close to weekend already) not pick to have tomorrow or this weekend.

I would pick a time and choose a week from now, giving people time to know for sure the day and time and be able to make time for it in advance.

If people haven't given feedback, assume they don't have a strong feeling on it.  Pick from among the above choices, and it will tend to be a decent choice.

I can set up the arena for you to be the terrain you want, can include clouds or not as you see fit, and set time of day for a sunrise, sunset, noon, or whatever you want.
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Yeager on November 28, 2022, 12:35:42 AM
How did it go?  Was ACK-ACK given an appropriate Send-off?
Title: Re: Memorial Flight for Ack-Ack P-38 and scheduling
Post by: Flossy on December 02, 2022, 08:59:25 AM
How did it go?  Was ACK-ACK given an appropriate Send-off?
I've been waiting for any details but not seen anything yet.