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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: capera on November 12, 2022, 06:59:30 AM
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I wonder if there is any possibility that Hitech could set the maps so that they cannot be reset with less than, for example, 10 players? Or...when a country has too few (1-2) players?
Seems the Tropical Thunder Squadron (Knit) love to form up at 0500EST and reset the map, as there is usually not enough players to stop them. No idea what sense of accomplishment it gives them to reset a map with essentially no opposition. Watching grass grow would be more entertaining. All I do know is...we lose some real good maps by them doing this, when there is nobody online. I suggested that they go do it in the TA, as is would be even easier. ;)
Logged in today after they reset it, and a few players...T24, myself...were bummed out that we are now faced with pizza map and then Buzzsaw for the weekend.
Thanks TechWrek and your Tropical Thunder crew for yet another zero dark thirty reset. And....then to add insult to injury, they all log off for the day after they reset it. :headscratch: Guess they do not like having 'true' opposition/competition, when taking bases or resetting maps.
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What is it harming for the map to be reset before everyone gets on? I for one like to play on a fresh map. A squad that plays at a certain time should not be restrained from playing the game just because the game is dead. I've stopped them several times by myself, and would have a much better time if just one person would help, usually that person is you, refusing to defend against them just so you can claim they are attacking undefended bases. If there is an arbitrary number imposed that halts base captures, I and others wont bother staying online since the purpose of the game is taken away. It will just end up a few people going to Dueling Arena and then hopefully when 10 people show up they all decide to migrate back to the Main Arena....
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What is it harming for the map to be reset before everyone gets on?
It's pretty self explanatory. Resetting a map with no opposition?? Somehow...that does not seem right. Does it seem right to you, Haggerty? T24 and myself were discussing this today, and he can see and agrees with my POV on this. Think there was even a discussion on these forums, and the majority said it was lame to intentionally reset a map, when you know the enemy cannot possible defend.
There has/was a good battle going on, that last map. Few good days of BATTLE....back n forth all day long. Having it reset, when there was no way of possibly defending against it is weak sauce, imho. No glory in winning a map, when nobody is there to witness it.
Tell Tropical Thunder..... a LOT more rewards winning a map, when it's truly deserved.
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Don't worry Haggerty, its a request that will never happen. Besides this is more of a "shaming" post than it is a true request as capera knows Hitech would never consider it.
There is nothing wrong with the way the Tropical Thunder group is playing the game. Many squads like to grab bases and win the map. It is after all one of the main options of play for this game.
No capara is just mad because they wont play the game the way HE wants and so must come here to complain...... err "request" a change.
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It's pretty self explanatory. Resetting a map with no opposition?? Somehow...that does not seem right. Does it seem right to you, Haggerty? T24 and myself were discussing this today, and he can see and agrees with my POV on this. Think there was even a discussion on these forums, and the majority said it was lame to intentionally reset a map, when you know the enemy cannot possible defend.
There has/was a good battle going on, that last map. Few good days of BATTLE....back n forth all day long. Having it reset, when there was no way of possibly defending against it is weak sauce, imho. No glory in winning a map, when nobody is there to witness it.
Tell Tropical Thunder..... a LOT more rewards winning a map, when it's truly deserved.
Why don't you and T24 just oppose them? There are only 4 of them and one of them has to be in troops, quite easy to defend when you factor in their flight times and your auto acks/timers.
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Don't worry Haggerty, its a request that will never happen. Besides this is more of a "shaming" post than it is a true request as capera knows Hitech would never consider it.
There is nothing wrong with the way the Tropical Thunder group is playing the game. Many squads like to grab bases and win the map. It is after all one of the main options of play for this game.
No capara is just mad because they wont play the game the way HE wants and so must come here to complain...... err "request" a change.
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Typical from you. If you do not want to have an adult conversation, then go troll somewhere else.
Sad that I would have to make a request of this nature, as it seems we cannot depend on players having some ethics.
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Why don't you and T24 just oppose them? There are only 4 of them and one of them has to be in troops, quite easy to defend when you factor in their flight times and your auto acks/timers.
I was not online. You need to read. I said..."Logged in today after they reset it, and a few players..."
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Typical from you. If you do not want to have an adult conversation, then go troll somewhere else.
Sad that I would have to make a request of this nature, as it seems we cannot depend on players having some ethics.
Ethics????? LOL!!! Its a game, and one of the main routes to play in this game is taking bases and if you take enough you "Win the War". Im sure you have participated in a couple of those runs to push for bases and win the war.
If you dont want them to win the war, then try to stop them..... another option in how to play the game. Crying here about them rolling bases isnt going to stop them.
Talk about an "adult conversation" LOL!!! put on your bigboy pants and go out there and fight them instead of crying here on the boards.
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how do you know it was them that reset it and it went unopposed? Sounds like the solution to your problem is to just get rid of the bad maps from the cycle. And implement an AFK timer to kick tower queens so that auto switchers have a chance to defend the actual lowest team.
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Ethics????? LOL!!! Its a game, and one of the main routes to play in this game is taking bases and if you take enough you "Win the War". Im sure you have participated in a couple of those runs to push for bases and win the war.
If you dont want them to win the war, then try to stop them..... another option in how to play the game. Crying here about them rolling bases isnt going to stop them.
Talk about an "adult conversation" LOL!!! put on your bigboy pants and go out there and fight them instead of crying here on the boards.
I guess you are too ignorant to understand. Let be break it down into smaller words for you.......... There was nobody online to defend against them.
But...that info won't stop your spewin, because all you are is a troll on these forums. You have 17002 posts.....you are either a chick or you talk too much.
So Mr. Troll......again....adults talking. You're welcome to join....but you really show your immaturity, when you try to turn this into a flame thread.
Ignoring your future comments, until maturity is displayed on your part.
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how do you know it was them that reset it and it went unopposed? Sounds like the solution to your problem is to just get rid of the bad maps from the cycle. And implement an AFK timer to kick tower queens so that auto switchers have a chance to defend the actual lowest team.
I have been watching this squad do this for months. No idea what the attraction is.....but the end result is we prematurely lose maps that have been in battle for days. Good battles.
As for your alternate ideas.....they sound great. The end goal here is to have AS realistic of a arena as we can. This squadron would actually have to WORK to reset that last map, prime time. But....they take the easy road, and the road with no possible opposition.
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I guess you are too ignorant to understand. Let be break it down into smaller words for you.......... There was nobody online to defend against them.
You are wrong, I'm online every day with them and fight them and see the other side defending against them too. Again, its not their fault that you choose to attack their strats instead of fighting them on the tactical level. They arent the only ones that play early in the morning, they are just the only side that works towards the goal of winning.
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You are wrong, I'm online every day with them and fight them and see the other side defending against them too. Again, its not their fault that you choose to attack their strats instead of fighting them on the tactical level. They arent the only ones that play early in the morning, they are just the only side that works towards the goal of winning.
No... I am not wrong. I do not bother going with 6:1 odds. The other day.....2 Rooks online. Me and Higheye. Higheye was afk in a tower, so essentially me. It is absolutely pointless for me to go up against 6 players. That is when I just go hit the strats, as that is the only viable option considering the situation. Sometimes I try to stop them.....but cannot.
The other day...TechWrek opted to send 2 players to each Rook base, as to give me a chance to defend. Yea....defend one base, as they steal two undefended. Oh...what a deal.
Lets face it Haggerty....does not matter how I explain it, you will disagree. That is because you are allowing the fact that you do not like me, sway your responses to me. Guess you are unable to separate the two.
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IN :bolt:
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No... I am not wrong. I do not bother going with 6:1 odds. The other day.....2 Rooks online. Me and Higheye. Higheye was afk in a tower, so essentially me. It is absolutely pointless for me to go up against 6 players. That is when I just go hit the strats, as that is the only viable option considering the situation. Sometimes I try to stop them.....but cannot.
The other day...TechWrek opted to send 2 players to each Rook base, as to give me a chance to defend. Yea....defend one base, as they steal two undefended. Oh...what a deal.
Lets face it Haggerty....does not matter how I explain it, you will disagree. That is because you are allowing the fact that you do not like me, sway your responses to me. Guess you are unable to separate the two.
I don't dislike you, if I'm on your team I have no problems supporting you in a fight or base take. I just think you have no voice in the matter when you chose not to defend. I defend and am successful, if you helped, it would be so much easier for me to do my job. You won't always have the advantage of numbers, thats the beauty of main arena. If you are outnumbered you can get a Tempest really cheap and destroy all their 20eny options.
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I wonder if there is any possibility that Hitech could set the maps so that they cannot be reset with less than, for example, 10 players? Or...when a country has too few (1-2) players?
Seems the Tropical Thunder Squadron (Knit) love to form up at 0500EST and reset the map, as there is usually not enough players to stop them. No idea what sense of accomplishment it gives them to reset a map with essentially no opposition. Watching grass grow would be more entertaining. All I do know is...we lose some real good maps by them doing this, when there is nobody online. I suggested that they go do it in the TA, as is would be even easier. ;)
Logged in today after they reset it, and a few players...T24, myself...were bummed out that we are now faced with pizza map and then Buzzsaw for the weekend.
Thanks TechWrek and your Tropical Thunder crew for yet another zero dark thirty reset. And....then to add insult to injury, they all log off for the day after they reset it. :headscratch: Guess they do not like having 'true' opposition/competition, when taking bases or resetting maps.
I don't dislike you, if I'm on your team I have no problems supporting you in a fight or base take. I just think you have no voice in the matter when you chose not to defend. I defend and am successful, if you helped, it would be so much easier for me to do my job. You won't always have the advantage of numbers, thats the beauty of main arena. If you are outnumbered you can get a Tempest really cheap and destroy all their 20eny options.
Let's try to keep the use of Tempest quite against large nme numbers! Thats when I have the most fun!
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I just think you have no voice in the matter when you chose not to defend. I defend and am successful, if you helped, it would be so much easier for me to do my job. You won't always have the advantage of numbers, thats the beauty of main arena. If you are outnumbered you can get a Tempest really cheap and destroy all their 20eny options.
My examples were more based on no numbers defending or just me struggling to defend. When there are 1-2 more players trying to defend....I usually join in, as there is somewhat of a chance to slow them down. Remember....it's 0530 EST. The western world is asleep. I try to plead with them, and the reply I get is....."the Bish do it". Yea....the Bish do it DURING PRIME TIME. Tropical Thunder is the ONLY squadron that forms up at 0500hrs. Hence why they can roll 5-6 bases in 1 hour....and resetting the map.
Here is an example on one day...... again, just me and two or three Rook sleepers online....and here is what my dance card looked like. TechWrek (1) and you (2) in the air, heavy jabos. Baronred (3) in 24s. Mr Cart (4), Mr Jousts (5) and lets not forget Chute (6) all storming a base in GVs. So.....you are saying you, you alone can effectively defend these numbers? I highly doubt it. You cannot aim at one plane, and contend with the other one dropped eggs on you.
Anyways..... the purpose of my post was I hoped that Hitech would see it and if it was possible, set a min # required on a country....before the war can be won. We have parameters of what we need, when people are online....90% and then 20%, 20%............why is it so out in left field to have a min # requirement. It would solve the problem of us losing good maps, to this hording in the wee hours.
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Sounds like a target rich environment
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I guess you are too ignorant to understand. Let be break it down into smaller words for you.......... There was nobody online to defend against them.
But...that info won't stop your spewin, because all you are is a troll on these forums. You have 17002 posts.....you are either a chick or you talk too much.
So Mr. Troll......again....adults talking. You're welcome to join....but you really show your immaturity, when you try to turn this into a flame thread.
Ignoring your future comments, until maturity is displayed on your part.
OK Ill use smaller words as well, if they want to take undefended bases there is nothing wrong with that as it is a game option, much like the Bish using 30 players to roll bases defended by 5 guys even if it IS during prime time. It is a way to play the game that is allowed by HTC and has always been.
I have been watching this squad do this for months. No idea what the attraction is.....but the end result is we prematurely lose maps that have been in battle for days. Good battles.
As for your alternate ideas.....they sound great. The end goal here is to have AS realistic of a arena as we can. This squadron would actually have to WORK to reset that last map, prime time. But....they take the easy road, and the road with no possible opposition.
Just because it is not something you would enjoy doing doesnt mean it is wrong, it is just another way to play the game. Much like you hitting strats. I would never bother hitting strats because I would rather go head to head with the other side and fight for the base. I'm not in here suggesting that HTC change the strat setting because I see too many people "wasting their time" as I see it, hitting strats. Thats how they want to play, have at it.
To defend by yourself, drop troops or the VH at the field they are working out of. Make them give up on bases and move around. You dont have to fight them head to head, take away their options. Taking away their troops and/or vehicles will slow them down.
If your not there to defend, then whats the big deal? The maps always come back around.
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OK Ill use smaller words as well, if they want to take undefended bases there is nothing wrong with that as it is a game option, much like the Bish using 30 players to roll bases defended by 5 guys even if it IS during prime time. It is a way to play the game that is allowed by HTC and has always been.
Just because it is not something you would enjoy doing doesnt mean it is wrong, it is just another way to play the game. Much like you hitting strats. I would never bother hitting strats because I would rather go head to head with the other side and fight for the base. I'm not in here suggesting that HTC change the strat setting because I see too many people "wasting their time" as I see it, hitting strats. Thats how they want to play, have at it.
To defend by yourself, drop troops or the VH at the field they are working out of. Make them give up on bases and move around. You dont have to fight them head to head, take away their options. Taking away their troops and/or vehicles will slow them down.
If your not there to defend, then whats the big deal? The maps always come back around.
I think you are missing my point.
This thread is not about them hording. That is what they seem to enjoy doing. Don't ask me why they like taking undefended bases, over and over....but they do.
This thread is about seeing IF there is a possibility to have the arena setup where the sim would need a min # of players, before a map reset takes place. They can form up and horde to the cows come home, for all I care. I care about losing a map that we have ALL put a lot of work into (placing CVs, working battlefronts).....only to lose the map because OUR sim is struggling for #'s. Not because they are skilled and can win a battle, but because they choose to form up at 0500 and roll undefended (unable to defend) bases.
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Sounds like a target rich environment
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I stand with. Capera. He is exactly right.
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I think you are missing my point.
This thread is not about them hording. That is what they seem to enjoy doing. Don't ask me why they like taking undefended bases, over and over....but they do.
This thread is about seeing IF there is a possibility to have the arena setup where the sim would need a min # of players, before a map reset takes place. They can form up and horde to the cows come home, for all I care. I care about losing a map that we have ALL put a lot of work into (placing CVs, working battlefronts).....only to lose the map because OUR sim is struggling for #'s. Not because they are skilled and can win a battle, but because they choose to form up at 0500 and roll undefended (unable to defend) bases.
No, you are missing the point.You answered your own question as to why it wont be changed. Players like doing it.
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Would you guys prefer this squad quits the game and leaves you 1 person to fight at 530am?
Quit crying. If you weren't so worried about winning the war, you might be able to put a dent in a 5 person "hoarde".
Be thankful for anyone providing you pixels to shoot at.
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No, you are missing the point.You answered your own question as to why it wont be changed. Players like doing it.
Players liked bomb****ing HQ, too, except, just like this, it ticked off the overwhelming majority so it got changed. Oops.
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Would you guys prefer this squad quits the game and leaves you 1 person to fight at 530am?
Quit crying. If you weren't so worried about winning the war, you might be able to put a dent in a 5 person "hoarde".
Be thankful for anyone providing you pixels to shoot at.
Guess you are not as smart as you promote yourself as. If you actually “read” what I was saying, you would see how ignorant your reply is.
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Of course you all don’t see this as a problem. Keep watching the numbers dwindle.
Have a nice day.
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Lol.. you are asking for a coding change so your 25k bomber sortie isn't interrupted because you can't defend and fight 5 guys.
I read it, I just cut through the roadkill in 1 post.
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Remember....it's 0530 EST. The western world is asleep. I try to plead with them, and the reply I get is....."the Bish do it". Yea....the Bish do it DURING PRIME TIME. Tropical Thunder is the ONLY squadron that forms up at 0500hrs. Hence why they can roll 5-6 bases in 1 hour....and resetting the map.
I understand the issue, but those guys form up at 05:00EST because "many" of them are Aussies or at least use to be, and its anywhere from 18:00 - 21:00 Aussie time. The one that I know that is from the Eastern U.S. gets up just to fly with them. He has been doing that since 2007 and perhaps a longer. Kind of hard to begrudge a squad that is paying their subscript, and playing when it's convenient for them.
Tropical Thunder are good bunch & so is Capera. <S>
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Thanks Tyfoo.
I just asked a question if it was possible to not have the map be reset, based on what was happening when we had no players online.
Will not ask another question on these forums.
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Thanks Tyfoo.
I just asked a question if it was possible to not have the map be reset, based on what was happening when we had no players online.
Will not ask another question on these forums.
Best thing you have said in the whole thread.
You have a question/suggestion, just email it to Hitech
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This post is a sad expression of one players misinterpretation to events that unfolded the night of 11/10 into the early morning hours of 11/11.
At 9pm CST bishops and rooks were throwing everything they had at the knights. A135 in particular stayed under heavy attack for al.ost 2 full hours having up to 40 players attacking a single base from the air and ground.
The LCA Renegades along with the help of the 490th BS took A27 which spawned into 135. This lead to a 16 base capture frenzy over the next 4 hrs. By the time Tropical Thunder logged in the map was almost won. The fact that it was up to rooks to stop the reset at their worst time of day is not techwreck or anyone fault. It is what it is.....
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Best thing you have said in the whole thread.
You have a question/suggestion, just email it to Hitech
Thought this was a message board where members could ask questions or even, god forbid, express an opinion. Should of known this would be the reception from a question from me.
Thanks for reminding me why I do not post on these forums.
Cheers :cheers:
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Just like any other time of day..... when numbers are skewed. Silly OP.
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Capera and I absolutely do not get along, but I think his was a reasonable question. If it can't be done it can't be done but it would be better for ppl who care about map wins if it were.
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Heaven forbid anyone express their opinions about how others play. You're lucky they didn't call HT to whine or try and use the auto reporting algorithms against you.
I expose hypocrisy when I see it being displayed in game - sorry if that upsets you, but you cannot take the high road when you engage in actual negative petty behavior...
and language.. tsk.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhjtZP8c/99karena-hypocrtite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2L7yHxC6)
Thought this was a message board where members could ask questions or even, god forbid, express an opinion. Should of known this would be the reception from a question from me.
Thanks for reminding me why I do not post on these forums.
Cheers :cheers:
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Heaven forbid anyone express their opinions about how others play. You're lucky they didn't call HT to whine or try and use the auto reporting algorithms against you.
I expose hypocrisy when I see it being displayed in game - sorry if that upsets you, but you cannot take the high road when you engage in actual negative petty behavior...
and language.. tsk.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RhjtZP8c/99karena-hypocrtite.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2L7yHxC6)
Great edit, Shane, shi**ing on everyone before this exchange.
You were even attacking me when I wasn't involved in the fight that set you off.
You need help.
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That screen shot was from hours later (I wasn't involved directly) and is merely to highlight the hypocrisy.
The 4 vs me you're referring to, was with your skwaddies around, my bad for thinking the pony was you - I should go check film.
Me calling out that 4 v 1 and then 99Karena humping my ankle when he wasn't even involved also speaks to the hypocrisy. (do you see that comment about the 3 ganging on the 1?)
I can deal with the snowflakes, lol, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy. (what did you get muted for btw? lol)
Great edit, Shane, shi**ing on everyone before this exchange.
You were even attacking me when I wasn't involved in the fight that set you off.
You need help.
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I would not advise people to play in traffic. Unless it's on a nimble motorcycle :banana:
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That screen shot was from hours later (I wasn't involved directly) and is merely to highlight the hypocrisy.
The 4 vs me you're referring to, was with your skwaddies around, my bad for thinking the pony was you - I should go check film.
Me calling out that 4 v 1 and then 99Karena humping my ankle when he wasn't even involved also speaks to the hypocrisy. (do you see that comment about the 3 ganging on the 1?)
I can deal with the snowflakes, lol, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy. (what did you get muted for btw? lol)
You got impatient and waded into four lower cons. I saw it on radar. That was YOUR fault, not theirs.
Airjer(k) mass reported me. Used to be people got counter-muted for that but Hitech has been kinda busy.
Didn't matter. I was off flying jets for 5 of the 7 days any way...
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V - pay attention, lol. It's not so much about the situation or what I said, none of those 4 even replied to my comment....
it's about 99Karena humping my ankle and using that to mass report. Yeah, it used to be an offense to abuse it, but you're right HT has better things to do which is why I don't even bother.
tl;dnr - 99Karena is a huge hypocrite that I will always expose.
You got impatient and waded into four lower cons. I saw it in radar. That was YOUR fault, not theirs.
Airjerk mass reported me. Used to be people got counter-muted for that but Hitech had been kinda busy.
Didn't matter. I was off flying jets for 5 of the 7 days any way...
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Shane...
WTG for the verbal forum/in game azzkicking! you pretty much always make me laugh!! You have not ever once whined about getting shot down from fighting the horde of tards trying to get 1 kill from you. You never just rolled over and took Shany watermelon from the never-ending horde! And because of doing the same and knowing that it does take some very skillful fighting and you need nearly perfect and must have impeccable SA just to be able to RTB!
And I will say for a fact too that I've only seen you land far less than a dozen sorties! (EDIT) And that's from knowing you in game you in game for the past 20 years!!! Starting for me in 2003... Because you really never gave a dam about rank or seeing your name in lights!!
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Shane...
WTG for the verbal forum/in game azzkicking! you pretty much always make me laugh!! You have not ever once whined about getting shot down from fighting the horde of tards trying to get 1 kill from you. You never just rolled over and took Shany watermelon from the never-ending horde! And because of doing the same and knowing that it does take some very skillful fighting and you need nearly perfect and must have impeccable SA just to be able to RTB!
And I will say for a fact too that I've only seen you land far less than a dozen sorties! Because you really never gave a dam about rank or seeing your name in lights!!
If this is tdgshane in game my experience with him is a little more toxic than yours.. He apparently has a problem how other people fly their planes if you do evasive maneuvers you will get accused of being a stick stirer . Why that gets under his saddle so much I have no idea.. And before someone starts spouting about how stick stiring wasn't a real thing I would also imagine that cutting your engine in the middle of a dog fight isn't either or half the things we do
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Dale, can you lock this toejamshow?
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V - pay attention, lol. It's not so much about the situation or what I said, none of those 4 even replied to my comment....
it's about 99Karena humping my ankle and using that to mass report. Yeah, it used to be an offense to abuse it, but you're right HT has better things to do which is why I don't even bother.
tl;dnr - 99Karena is a huge hypocrite that I will always expose.
I was in the process of wrecking Rudboi and you picked me. I was on the losing side of that numbers game. I didn't lose my chili, I just went elsewhere rather than continue being gangtarded. You do it, too.
Most guys in my squadron detune 200, BTW. I'm the enforcer, not them.
99Capera is one of the good guys in this game for those paying attention...
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Dale, can you lock this toejamshow?
or... you can just ignore it 😜 :bolt: