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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rebel28 on April 03, 2023, 09:25:57 AM
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Extend the 2 week free trial to returning members who have been away for over a year. This offer could entice some past players to come back. It also could raise the number of players online.
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I'm with you. Very tough to get players back who want to retry the game after their first 2 weeks. They might want to check out the game again only to have to pay $15 for only a month and it probably deters them away from trying it again.
There is a new custom FFA map that HazMat has put up which all should try as it would he great for new and returning players who want to hop into some quick fun action. I'm curious though how many players even see it because of the tabs at the top that hardly anyone recognizes.
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While it would be nice "hand out" it wouldn't do anything but hurt his bottom line. Every player who has ever played the game KNOWS what the game has to offer. A quick peek at the boards and you'll know nothing has changed in years so it is what it is.
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I keep hearing $15 per month complaint, as if it's a new mortgage. If someone can't afford $15 per month these days,...they probably shouldn't afford gaming gear. Better yet in a sim that makes you buy each of the few planes they have. I can save spare change and come up with $15. A friggin hamburger today cost $15 in most restaurants, and it only last 10 minutes. I might by 10 per month. Not trying to sound like a jerk/dweeb (even though I prolly am), but if someone can't afford $15, they have bigger financial issues then they thought and should tend to them. in the early 70s my weekly allowance was $20. lol <shrug>
NOW, that said,...I'm not fond of paying for a waitress that ignores my table.
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I keep hearing $15 per month complaint, as if it's a new mortgage. If someone can't afford $15 per month these days,...they probably shouldn't afford gaming gear. Better yet in a sim that makes you buy each of the few planes they have. I can save spare change and come up with $15. A friggin hamburger today cost $15 in most restaurants, and it only last 10 minutes. I might by 10 per month. Not trying to sound like a jerk/dweeb (even though I prolly am), but if someone can't afford $15, they have bigger financial issues then they thought and should tend to them. in the early 70s my weekly allowance was $20. lol <shrug>
NOW, that said,...I'm not fond of paying for a waitress that ignores my table.
This isn't 2006
Some people have multiple subscriptions to multiple things. This isn't the only game charging $15 a month for access.
And i would rather pay for the modules as I will get my moneys worth one hundred times over. It's not about the $15 anyway. I know a couple of players who stopped playing aces not because of the $15 a month but more because the gameplay sucks most days and there is way more fun to be had with a module.
I myself just play in FSO and I don't have a problem with that as the people I play with in FSO I would pay ten times what I am paying now to be able to game with them in there.
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Well, just because others pay multiple games, doesn’t make AH expensive, their decisions do.
I think $15 is very cheap. To each their own, but what I see these other sims are not as fun as their graphic, if you’re used to AH MA. I saw prices for one plane at $75 and the FM is questionable. Thats 5 months of AH for one plane.we pay $15 for 120 items, and frankly, from what I read, didn’t play, a bad day in AH is still more fun then their best day.
IMO, they play there for graphics, play here for fun. Not our problem they choose to pay for both.
Raising trial above 2 weeks is not a bad idea, newbies barely learn to fly decent in two weeks.
That said, I refer back to my last statement in my reply above. It won’t happen be ause HT doesn’t do anything but collect money for no servuce. I couldn’t even get an email answered, so good luck asking for anything else. Its just true, sad, but true. And thats what makes AH seem expensive. We have to call him to get him to pay attention at all?! Asking for anything seems moot.
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Well, just because others pay multiple games, doesn’t make AH expensive, their decisions do.
I think $15 is very cheap. To each their own, but what I see these other sims are not as fun as their graphic, if you’re used to AH MA. I saw prices for one plane at $75 and the FM is questionable. Thats 5 months of AH for one plane.we pay $15 for 120 items, and frankly, from what I read, didn’t play, a bad day in AH is still more fun then their best day.
It isn't the games that the subscriptions are for. Its Netflix, Paramount, Discord Nitro, Hulu
There are subs galore anymore.
And as far as your comments about $75 for one plane.
The 1st time you purchase something from them whatever is in your cart is 50% off
or you wait for a sale which happens quite often.
The gameplay cannot be matched. By any other game online right now. If you wanna find out, you want some smoke, then come and get you some :aok
https://youtu.be/W2yhnT4xrMY
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One has to wonder... if it is so great, why are you over here?
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Well, just because others pay multiple games, doesn’t make AH expensive, their decisions do.
I think $15 is very cheap. To each their own, but what I see these other sims are not as fun as their graphic, if you’re used to AH MA. I saw prices for one plane at $75 and the FM is questionable. Thats 5 months of AH for one plane.we pay $15 for 120 items, and frankly, from what I read, didn’t play, a bad day in AH is still more fun then their best day.
IMO, they play there for graphics, play here for fun. Not our problem they choose to pay for both.
Raising trial above 2 weeks is not a bad idea, newbies barely learn to fly decent in two weeks.
That said, I refer back to my last statement in my reply above. It won’t happen be ause HT doesn’t do anything but collect money for no servuce. I couldn’t even get an email answered, so good luck asking for anything else. Its just true, sad, but true. And thats what makes AH seem expensive. We have to call him to get him to pay attention at all?! Asking for anything seems moot.
It's not that its expensive. It's the psychology behind it. On Steam for example, you have a gazillion games for free and others where you can buy the whole thing for a one time payment and come back to it whenever you want. Look at battfield and COD for example. Battlefield 4 is freaking amazing and I've only had to pay for it once. The fact that this is a niche game really makes it tough for people to want to spend $15 for a single month if they aren't truely interested and ready to invest their time in the game. You have to realize that while me and a few others absolutely love this game, not everyone does, and if they lose interest quickly, they may never come back because it's not worth $15 a month compared to other games. Even if they wanted to try the game again, it's tough to pay the $15 just to see if they like it again. Then you have the learning curve of the MA and time it takes to find a fight per death and that can make it tough to want to stick around. Unfortunately the majority want free games with quick action. There is no "feeder" arena of AH for people to get into quick battles. So from my perspective $15 seems like a lot for one month when they might only play it once just to see the gameplay again. For example, I downloaded the game Chivalry, it's a really cool game, cost me like $20. But I hardly play it very much, if I had to pay $15 for a month just to play it once or twice, I probably wouldn't because I'm not that passionate about it. That's merely my point.
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hold up, wait, so it isn't 2$/hour anymore? Why didn't anyone tell me ? !!!! :devil
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Well, just because others pay multiple games, doesn’t make AH expensive, their decisions do.
I think $15 is very cheap. To each their own, but what I see these other sims are not as fun as their graphic, if you’re used to AH MA. I saw prices for one plane at $75 and the FM is questionable. Thats 5 months of AH for one plane.we pay $15 for 120 items, and frankly, from what I read, didn’t play, a bad day in AH is still more fun then their best day.
IMO, they play there for graphics, play here for fun. Not our problem they choose to pay for both.
Raising trial above 2 weeks is not a bad idea, newbies barely learn to fly decent in two weeks.
Animl,
I have a pet rock here. I want to sell it to you for $15. What? You don't want a pet rock? But dude, it's only $15. $15 is nothing. So buy my pet rock! No?
If someone doesn't want a product, then having it at a low price doesn't necessarily make a difference.
You can tell everyone all you want about why YOU think it's worth $15. That is irrelevant. I don't mean that in a bad way. It doesn't matter what I think either. What matters is what the market thinks.
What matters is what the 600 odd players that are not here anymore thought.
What matters is what the 40,000 odd people who downloaded the Steam trial version and decided to take a pass, thought.
You can waste time throwing shade at other products, but that does put anymore subscriptions in here. They are getting the sales. AH is not.
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hold up, wait, so it isn't 2$/hour anymore? Why didn't anyone tell me ? !!!! :devil
:rofl
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Does anyone know of any other subscription based game out there that has zero development? I'd like to pop into their forum and see what they're talking about.
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Does anyone know of any other subscription based game out there that has zero development? I'd like to pop into their forum and see what they're talking about.
Really... that would be interesting. Most are closed I imagine.
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Animl,
I have a pet rock here. I want to sell it to you for $15. What? You don't want a pet rock? But dude, it's only $15. $15 is nothing. So buy my pet rock! No?
If someone doesn't want a product, then having it at a low price doesn't necessarily make a difference.
You can tell everyone all you want about why YOU think it's worth $15. That is irrelevant. I don't mean that in a bad way. It doesn't matter what I think either. What matters is what the market thinks.
What matters is what the 600 odd players that are not here anymore thought.
What matters is what the 40,000 odd people who downloaded the Steam trial version and decided to take a pass, thought.
You can waste time throwing shade at other products, but that does put anymore subscriptions in here. They are getting the sales. AH is not.
I was waving a dbl edge razor.
$15 is nothing, to tip a good waitress, its a bit high if they avoid your table.
I can spit $75 for a plane, but my affordability is not the point, I’m not buying better AC graphics or FM. If I want to fly all the planes and other hidden charges, its becoming a money pit.
The only thing thats really better is the terrain graphics and they aren’t using sprites for explosion and strike graphics.
Those two updates would put AH up there with the best. All the other graphics are pretty identical.l, but theirs are very heavy on a slower pc.
I don’t mind exposing other game pitfalls on AH boards. I don’t know how we can attract new players selling other products on our boards. Every game can and has been picked apart.
When AW was dying, it was very disturbing that people from AH were selling on our boards. But in the end it was for the best.
Frankly, if the game isn’t high adrenaline fun its not worth $5 >to me<.
I’m not trying to be offensive. I value your personal opinion.
People who know me, know I play the devils advocate. I try to bring peeps outside their thought bubble. Lets look at all the facts, not just what makes ones personal point.
Two things can be right.
>IMO< if those other games are so great, there would be no looking back.
Its not the same game play, and people are leaving those too. HTC doing nothing just exasperated it. Lot of folks who drifted to those games are coming back. The reality if that is, they become depressed that there us no movement here. They game is great, the no upgrades is not. I refer back to my statement above with those two updates. This game WANTS to pop again. But like my promo, one guy says no.
Your points are not unvalid.
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$15 is nothing, to tip a good waitress, its{sic} a bit high if they avoid your table.
That's exactly it.
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I was waving a dbl edge razor.
$15 is nothing, to tip a good waitress, its a bit high if they avoid your table.
I can spit $75 for a plane, but my affordability is not the point, I’m not buying better AC graphics or FM. If I want to fly all the planes and other hidden charges, its becoming a money pit.
The only thing thats really better is the terrain graphics and they aren’t using sprites for explosion and strike graphics.
Those two updates would put AH up there with the best. All the other graphics are pretty identical.l, but theirs are very heavy on a slower pc.
I don’t mind exposing other game pitfalls on AH boards. I don’t know how we can attract new players selling other products on our boards. Every game can and has been picked apart.
When AW was dying, it was very disturbing that people from AH were selling on our boards. But in the end it was for the best.
Frankly, if the game isn’t high adrenaline fun its not worth $5 >to me<.
I’m not trying to be offensive. I value your personal opinion.
People who know me, know I play the devils advocate. I try to bring peeps outside their thought bubble. Lets look at all the facts, not just what makes ones personal point.
Two things can be right.
>IMO< if those other games are so great, there would be no looking back.
Its not the same game play, and people are leaving those too. HTC doing nothing just exasperated it. Lot of folks who drifted to those games are coming back. The reality if that is, they become depressed that there us no movement here. They game is great, the no upgrades is not. I refer back to my statement above with those two updates. This game WANTS to pop again. But like my promo, one guy says no.
Your points are not unvalid.
Go back and read what I wrote.
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I get it. Just following the vonvo as a whole. I agree.
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Does anyone know of any other subscription based game out there that has zero development?
Bingo
This has bugged me for some time now, why am I still paying a premium price subscription?
For a game that has zero development, zero new equipment added, zero anything added other than what the player base makes for free.
What is AcesHigh the company doing for me other than Living in retirement off my subscription.
I pay a subscription for iRacing... But they do updates and they get new content. I see what $15 is doing.
WW2OL, We like to make fun of WW2OL but they got lots of updates and quite a number of New pieces of equipment last year. They're porting their game over to a new engine, they now have VOX, they do a lot of things for their subscription price.
What am I getting here for my $15?
If you ask me this is a $4.99 a month game now. The subscription should be just enough to keep the servers running cuz that's about all we're getting out of it.
CAV
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This game WANTS to pop again. But like my promo, one guy says no.
Hmmm. I think you are more in the returning player honeymoon period. I get it. I've rode that train myself before.
IMHO, the core question is, why do the players who are not here not see AH as a good value at $15\month?
Why did virtually none of the 40,000 Steam trails decide to subscribe?
Why don't we have 600 players a night like we used to?
If you want to alter the trajectory, those are the questions you have to honestly answer without defaulting to defensive behavior. The old "if the other games are so great, why are they posting here?" is just a passive aggressive defense behavior. Attack the messenger so you don't have to face the uncomfortable message.
I liked you promo vid, but I think the issue is deeper than just exposure or you would have converted 2-5% of those 40,000 Steam downloads.
Companies have two choices. They can listen to their market and learn from what it is telling them, or stick to their guns and say the market is just wrong. If you can survive of the remaining hardcore players who have lasted this long, and if the kinds of changes needed to change things aren't really ever really likely anyway, then the second choice may work for you.
In the second case, it certainly seems reasonable to avoid dumping any more money or effort into the game if the remaining hardcore are locked in anyway due to their decades long social networks. It won't get you any more new players and the hardcore aren't likely going anywhere at this point. It appears to me from Lusche's charts that the decline has bottomed out. I suspect the remaining population is durable and will hang on until they drop.
Just keep the electricity on and chan200 working.
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Bingo
This has bugged me for some time now, why am I still paying a premium price subscription?
For a game that has zero development, zero new equipment added, zero anything added other than what the player base makes for free.
What is AcesHigh the company doing for me other than Living in retirement off my subscription.
I pay a subscription for iRacing... But they do updates and they get new content. I see what $15 is doing.
WW2OL, We like to make fun of WW2OL but they got lots of updates and quite a number of New pieces of equipment last year. They're porting their game over to a new engine, they now have VOX, they do a lot of things for their subscription price.
What am I getting here for my $15?
If you ask me this is a $4.99 a month game now. The subscription should be just enough to keep the servers running cuz that's about all we're getting out of it.
CAV
While I totally agree, growing player base and more funds coming it MIGHT actually kick start that again. Its a gamble to promote and try to do that. But,.. I've been here before. Problem is, I'm not sure HT is even still alive anymore, that is THE problem. Nothing else matters without him, unless it's sold to someone who wants to make something of it.. I'm not sure there is anyone left to do what they did. He communicates zero. Keep it up and it won't support retirement either. One can claim "successful" in the past during a peak, it's not successful right now if it's stagnate. I'm sad I chose to say that. right now, the global feeling seems to be people feel taken advantage of. It's still a great game that wants to pop again, it WANTS to pop, but there's no keys to the car.
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Also if Dale can re-start the affiliate program that would be a fantastic incentive for people to spread the word about the game and attempt to grab more players. I have messaged him and emailed but have not heard anything back. When attempting to sign up for the Aces High affiliate program, the page just crashes.
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Bingo
CAV
+several
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One has to wonder... if it is so great, why are you over here?
Why you worried about where I am??
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Does anyone know of any other subscription based game out there that has zero development? I'd like to pop into their forum and see what they're talking about.
Iracing is $15 a month
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$15 a month... plus you got to buy content. Their pricing model isn't for the faint of heart. But you get what you pay for.
CAV
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Hmmm. I think you are more in the returning player honeymoon period. I get it. I've rode that train myself before.
IMHO, the core question is, why do the players who are not here not see AH as a good value at $15\month?
Why did virtually none of the 40,000 Steam trails decide to subscribe?
Why don't we have 600 players a night like we used to?
If you want to alter the trajectory, those are the questions you have to honestly answer without defaulting to defensive behavior. The old "if the other games are so great, why are they posting here?" is just a passive aggressive defense behavior. Attack the messenger so you don't have to face the uncomfortable message.
I liked you promo vid, but I think the issue is deeper than just exposure or you would have converted 2-5% of those 40,000 Steam downloads.
Companies have two choices. They can listen to their market and learn from what it is telling them, or stick to their guns and say the market is just wrong. If you can survive of the remaining hardcore players who have lasted this long, and if the kinds of changes needed to change things aren't really ever really likely anyway, then the second choice may work for you.
In the second case, it certainly seems reasonable to avoid dumping any more money or effort into the game if the remaining hardcore are locked in anyway due to their decades long social networks. It won't get you any more new players and the hardcore aren't likely going anywhere at this point. It appears to me from Lusche's charts that the decline has bottomed out. I suspect the remaining population is durable and will hang on until they drop.
Just keep the electricity on and chan200 working.
Nothing personal, you have your thoughts. Convos are good.
I'm not defending as much as I, and others, are pointing out truths. Those games have flaws and are not the type AH type players will stay in. The fun element is missing and everyone knows it. Its a different audience. I can concrete my point of truths and comparisons, but why waste the bandwidth. It all depends on how one squints their eyes just right. There are some who can't seem to post without mentioning other games. If the crowd was good it wouldn't need promoting in other game boards, besides other well made points. Just my POV.
I may have been in the honeymoon stage the first two weeks, but I've also been very deep and into the core of my two games in the past and now to know it can be done. It's really not that hard, IF we had help from the creator. It's not the game or the players, it's the creator problem. The players want it to pop again,.. and that is the momentum. You see old players coming back almost every day, you're still here :) You're hoping too. While you see me as defending, I see some as doing nothing but ripping it down and selling another game because it's not doing all that well as it should be, expecting no push back of reality, it's selling another game. <shrug> I get it, HT did that to AW, but he did have a better product made of the exact same concept as AW.
All your questions above have legitimate answers and assumptions. A lot of games on Steam are fairly arcade-ish, a different type of player. Ah is a very deep game to learn and play. that's not for everyone, and they don't know until they try it. There are a lot for reasons, there is no single blanket answer.
We agree on somethings and disagree on others, that's ok, two sides in a convo are always good. HT seems to have gone from God to WTF. <shrug> Sorry Dale, great guy, very smart...this is not good biz.
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While it would be nice "hand out" it wouldn't do anything but hurt his bottom line. Every player who has ever played the game KNOWS what the game has to offer. A quick peek at the boards and you'll know nothing has changed in years so it is what it is.
How would it hurt his profit margin? It's not like returning players displace paying subscribers. I see quite a few "thinking of coming back to the game" posts on the forum. I would think Dale/HTC has a data base of previous player contact info. Sending out a blitz mail might only result in a > 5% response but that's something.
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Nothing personal, you have your thoughts. Convos are good.
I'm not taking anything personal, it just seems you are missing the point I'm trying to make.
I'm not trying to sell you on DCS. I don't give a flip what you fly. Besides, I'd imagine most here would find IL2 a closer fit anyway.
If those have relevance in this conversation, it is to show DCS makes plenty of sales so people still like flightsims. And IL2 makes plenty of sales so people are not turned off by WWII.
So the question is, why do you think there aren't 600 players in the arena anymore? Why can't AH attract new players? New. Not recycling previous old players over and over.
Because they didn't have your promo video? There have been guys posting great AH videos and tutorials for a decade. You borrowed some of their video so you should know. How much of an effect has that had?
HT has stated himself is trial conversion rate is running "around" 1% which could be on the under of that. Why can't the trials not convert more than 1%?
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Just my 2 cents...
I hooked up with AW/Macintosh back in '96 via Gamestorm/AOL. It took a few tries to get airborne and stay alive more than 30 seconds. The game was very intuitive, and there were AWARs available most evenings to school noobs. I was quickly hooked.
Advance to 1999 and AH was in Beta. Some of my AW pals were eagerly watching the development and trying to coax me into the open beta. I made several attempts at trying it out, only to wind up completely frustrated at what to do, when & how. Fast forward a year and the rumors were swirling about AW's future given the acquisition of Kesmai by EA. At a baddy's urging, I gave AH1 a go, as he gave me a few pointers as to what to do. I still found the process of getting airborne frustratingly complex and was ready to bail forever when someone started chatting at me on the text bar. Turns out it was a guy named Ghosth...a trainer, who sat on the runway for hours, helping dweebs like me navigate the very basics.
Moral of the story? I'm guessing many of the 99% who never converted to a paid account had experiences similar to mine.
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Why you worried about where I am??
Obviously it must be better here... than over there.
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I'm not taking anything personal, it just seems you are missing the point I'm trying to make.
I'm not trying to sell you on DCS. I don't give a flip what you fly. Besides, I'd imagine most here would find IL2 a closer fit anyway.
If those have relevance in this conversation, it is to show DCS makes plenty of sales so people still like flightsims. And IL2 makes plenty of sales so people are not turned off by WWII.
So the question is, why do you think there aren't 600 players in the arena anymore? Why can't AH attract new players? New. Not recycling previous old players over and over.
Because they didn't have your promo video? There have been guys posting great AH videos and tutorials for a decade. You borrowed some of their video so you should know. How much of an effect has that had?
HT has stated himself is trial conversion rate is running "around" 1% which could be on the under of that. Why can't the trials not convert more than 1%?
I'm stuck with the only remaining thought of why you're here. If anyone read your and Richard's post they probably wouldn't join up. Ya both seem to tag team each other on here, in many post. Is that the intent? You make it so unappetizing and the other games, that are also lacking, more appetizing. It's just a very distinct pattern. Ya can't say you're not selling when that's all you talk about. <shrug> :)
Dale has no control of who likes or dislikes the game. And to know what's wrong you must know what is right first.....so make a list of what would be right.
I'm sure when AH dies, just like AW, people will find their own liking. And if there's not a fun MA, their mileage will vary. We know what the problems are here. Numbers have actually come up.
And yes, other videos are not put in peoples face, they just sit there on youtube waiting for a visitor, or a search to get them there. It's not like they are actually posting them any other place for promo. I'm not saying it's THE answer, I'm saying at least make an effort, since HT isn't. Things have changed since the bigger crowd left......they may want to know about it.
We'll fly here until we can't. We have a good MA, despite it's player issues.
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I'm stuck with the only remaining thought of why you're here. If anyone read your and Richard's post they probably wouldn't join up. Ya both seem to tag team each other on here, in many post. Is that the intent? You make it so unappetizing and the other games, that are also lacking, more appetizing. It's just a very distinct pattern. Ya can't say you're not selling when that's all you talk about. <shrug> :)
Yeah, Trips has nothing better to do than continually scream about how bad the game is and how there's no development and how people are 'blind' to the problem (yet that's far from the truth).
While I think blatantly advertising other games is sorta in poor taste, at least Darkwood plays the game and also promotes AH via streaming and his squad creates AH videos, etc.
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I'm stuck with the only remaining thought of why you're here. If anyone read your and Richard's post they probably wouldn't join up. Ya both seem to tag team each other on here, in many post. Is that the intent? You make it so unappetizing and the other games, that are also lacking, more appetizing. It's just a very distinct pattern. Ya can't say you're not selling when that's all you talk about. <shrug> :)
LoL. Nevermind. You are denser than I thought.
You deflect in any direction other that the core question. I guess ad hominem is easier for you.
Good luck with your promo video thing.
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Obviously it must be better here... than over there.
I'm everywhere
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Max has a point
Even after much time in fighter ace switching to AH was a difficult time
It took FA going into the toilet to motivate me to spend the time needed
I still super sucked for years but stuck with it
I don't think many have the desire to make such a commitment these days when there are cheaper/free and easier ways for them to get a a2a fix
Eagler
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I don't think many have the desire to make such a commitment these days when there are cheaper/free and easier ways for them to get a a2a fix
Do you think DCS or IL2 has less complexity than AH?
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LoL. Nevermind. You are denser than I thought.
You deflect in any direction other that the core question. I guess ad hominem is easier for you.
Good luck with your promo video thing.
Just because I don't follow your banter, doesn't mean I'm dense. You really do come off as trying to deter people from staying here. Pretty much why you're on the edge of personal attacks when I talk about it. It's a tell. If you hate the game that much, don't have any ideas or answers, nothing but questions we all know the answers to,....why are you even here? The only thing that makes sense is as I stated. Anti-AH, Anti-HT, Anti-promo. You sem to not want the game to succeed again. Why? Translated: If ya don't listen to my negative banter you're dense and hominem, leave this game ya damn fool". This typical when someone is called out to answer to their patterns. You just deflected from that subject with attacking my mentality. Very common tactic.
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Do you think DCS or IL2 has less complexity than AH?
They both have poor FM issues, AH FM is more realistic. They both have no real MA worth talking about, DCS has sighting issues and is a money pit. Complexity? No,... other issues, yep, I do. They only have better terrain and damage model graphics. Everything else, like skins and buildings, looks the same as AH.
This game is more fun hands down, that is widely known, despite HT absence. That's why are numbers are coming up with former members. They tried that stuff, they came back to what is actually fun adrenaline MA. <shrug>
Ya know what I'm going to do? The same thing you're doing, except there.
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I have the free download with the free 51 in DCS. I watched a thirty minute vidio on starting, taking off and landing.
I gotta admit, for a rivit counter it has to be nirvana. The MS Corsair is the same. Every button or lever is used to fly. Watched that vidio also.
I lost interest while configuring the hotas along with views.
Fired up AH and took off with "auto" take off, and went to get in fights. Good times.
To say AH is hard when a person first starts out is true. DCS is hard on a completly different level.
I'm for the fight with a good FM. I don't count rivits.
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Just because I don't follow your banter, doesn't mean I'm dense. You really do come off as trying to deter people from staying here. Pretty much why you're on the edge of personal attacks when I talk about it. It's a tell. If you hate the game that much, don't have any ideas or answers, nothing but questions we all know the answers to,....why are you even here? The only thing that makes sense is as I stated. Anti-AH, Anti-HT, Anti-promo. You sem to not want the game to succeed again. Why? Translated: If ya don't listen to my negative banter you're dense and hominem, leave this game ya damn fool". This typical when someone is called out to answer to their patterns. You just deflected from that subject with attacking my mentality. Very common tactic.
Yep. Much denser than I thought.
What have I said that was anti AH? Because I acknowledge it has problems that are keeping it from gaining new players? Does it help AH to ignore those? If we all just hold hands and sing Kumbaya, will that put more players in the arena?
What have I said that was anti-HT? All I said was I probably understood his decision to stop development on AH if the kinda things that really might make a difference aren't feasible, and the hardcore are going to stay no matter what. I'm saying I'm essentially agreeing with the New Years message. Keep it running. Release skin batches. I believe the remaining population is stable. I remaining attrition will be from natural causes. I even tried to get him a pay raise: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,406845.0.html (https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,406845.0.html)
What have I said that is anti-your promo video? Because I'm not blowing sunshine up your skirt telling you it's going to turn the tide? I said I liked your video. Jeezus you are needy. Now, I might think going around stealing other peoples creative content without asking them first is kinda bad form, but that is between you and them. If you just had fun doing it, that's cool. It's fun to just sometimes make stuff for the joy of it. I just think it is not going to make any difference.
There are more fundamental problems making this game unappealing to the current gaming market. A promo video is not going to fix that.
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They both have poor FM issues, AH FM is more realistic. They both have no real MA worth talking about, DCS has sighting issues and is a money pit. Complexity? No,... other issues, yep, I do. They only have better terrain and damage model graphics. Everything else, like skins and buildings, looks the same as AH.
The maps in DCS are ten times the size of the entire aces high game itself, hell all three aces high versions.
There's only max seventy people in one server. There are several of those servers on just about every continent on the planet. To compare aces high to DCS is an embarrassment as DCS has way more going on in terms of detail and flight modeling. That being said there are a few modules that are crackheadish and the flight model is garbage. The learning curve for DCS is way higher than aces high.
The only difference is that those seventy people are all fighting each other on a huge map. Unlike in aces high where you have a huge map, and everyone goes and does whatever wherever.
then come on this BB and complain there are no fights. Sound about, right? Maybe less NOE base captures.
What happened to the days when we would fight for six to eight hours over one airfield???
I play both games, DCS and aces high. I play one more than the other. In one game people runaway when they lose the upper hand and in the other, they battle until they cannot battle anymore.
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They both have poor FM issues, AH FM is more realistic. They both have no real MA worth talking about, DCS has sighting issues and is a money pit. Complexity? No,... other issues, yep, I do. They only have better terrain and damage model graphics. Everything else, like skins and buildings, looks the same as AH.
I'm merely pointing out that complexity in a flightsim is not necessarily a dealbreaker. If they are interested, people will figure stuff out.
So AH's moderate complexity is probably not the core issue since DCS and IL2 have plenty of complexity and yet find paying customers.
On a complexity scale WT is obviously on the bottom. Then AH, then IL2 and DCS can be just crazy.
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DCS Prices. Now they must be having problems because last I looked here, you didn't have to buy anything at 100% the first time for discount,.. things were slashed 30-80%. That's not a good sign.,...indicator.
Regardless,.. it's a money pit
Steam Prices
$49.99
DCS: Mi-24P HIND
$69.99
DCS: MiG-15Bis
$49.99
DCS: MiG-19P Farmer
$49.99
DCS: MiG-21Bis
$49.99
DCS: Mirage F1
$63.99
MiG-29 for DCS World
$14.99
DCS: Mosquito FB VI
$49.99
DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt
$49.99
DCS: P-51D Mustang
$49.99
DCS: SA342 Gazelle
$49.99
DCS: Spitfire LF Mk IX
$49.99
Su-25 for DCS World
$14.99
Su-27 for DCS World
$14.99
Su-33 for DCS World
$14.99
DCS: UH-1H Huey
$49.99
DCS: Yak-52
$39.99
DCS: The Channel
$39.99
DCS: Marianas
Free
DCS: NEVADA Test and Training Range Map
$49.99
DCS: Normandy 1944 Map
$44.99
DCS: Combined Arms
$39.99
DCS: World War II Assets Pack
$29.99
DCS: Persian Gulf
$49.99
DCS: Syria
$59.99
A-10C: Advanced Aircraft Training Qualification Campaign
$9.99
A-10C: Basic Flight Training Campaign
$9.99
DCS: A-10C Warthog - The Enemy Within 3.0 Campaign
$9.99
DCS: A-10C II Iron Flag Part 1 Campaign
$10.99
DCS: A-10C Operation Agile Spear Campaign
$12.99
DCS: A-10C II Operation Persian Freedom Campaign
$12.99
A-10C: Red Flag Campaign
$9.99
A-10C: Stone Shield Campaign
$9.99
A-10C: Tactical Training Qualification Campaign
$9.99
DCS: AV-8B Hormuz Freedom Campaign
$10.99
DCS: AV-8B Sky Warrior Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst - Jagdflieger Campaign
$9.99
Black Shark 2: Republic Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Combined Arms Frontlines Georgia Campaign
$9.99
DCS: F-14A Fear the Bones Campaign
$11.99
DCS: F-14A Zone 5 Campaign
$13.99
DCS: F-14B Speed and Angels Campaign
$14.99
DCS: F-14B Operation Sandworm Campaign
$9.99
F-15C: Aggressors BFM Campaign
$9.99
F-15C: The Georgian War Campaign
$9.99
F-15C: Red Flag Campaign
$9.99
DCS: F-16C Red Flag 21-1 Campaign
$9.99
F-5E: Aggressors Air Combat Maneuver Campaign
$9.99
F-5E: Aggressors Basic Fighter Maneuvers Campaign
$9.99
DCS: F-5E Black Sea Resolve '79 Campaign
$12.99
DCS: F-86F Sabre Hunters Over the Yalu Campaign
$9.99
F/A-18C: Aggressors BFM Campaign
$9.99
DCS: F/A-18C Hornet The Serpent's Head 2 Campaign
$9.99
DCS: F/A-18C Operation Cerberus North
$13.99
DCS: F/A-18C Operation Pontus Campaign
$12.99
DCS: F/A-18C Rise of the Persian Lion Campaign
$10.99
DCS: F/A-18C Rise of the Persian Lion II Campaign
$10.99
DCS: F/A-18C Hornet Raven One Сampaign
$13.99
DCS: F/A-18C Raven One: Dominant Fury Campaign
$16.99
DCS: F/A-18C Rising Squall Campaign
$19.99
DCS: Fw 190 A-8 Horrido! Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Black Shark 2 Pandemic Campaign
$12.99
DCS: L-39 Albatros - Kursant Campaign
$9.99
DCS: MAD Campaign
$10.99
DCS: MAD AH-64D Campaign
$13.99
DCS: MAD JF-17 Thunder Campaign
$8.99
DCS: M-2000C - Red Flag Campaign
$11.99
The Museum Relic Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Mi-8MTV2 and Ka-50 Memory of a Hero Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Mi-8MTV2 Crew Part 1 Campaign
$12.99
Mi-8MTV2: Oilfield Campaign
$9.99
Mi-8MTV2: The Border Campaign
$9.99
DCS: MiG-21bis Battle of Krasnodar Campaign
$12.99
DCS: MiG-21bis Constant Peg Campaign
$9.99
DCS: P-47D Wolfpack Campaign
$9.99
DCS: P-51D Mustang - Operation Charnwood Campaign
$9.99
P-51D: High Stakes Campaign
$9.99
DCS: P-51D Mustang Blue Nosed Bastards of Bodney Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Spitfire Beware! Beware! Campaign
$11.99
DCS: Spitfire LF Mk.IX The Big Show Campaign
$9.99
Spitfire: Epsom Campaign
$9.99
DCS: Spitfire Beware! Beware! Campaign
$11.99
Su-27: The Ultimate Argument Campaign
$9.99
UH-1H: Argo Campaign
$9.99
DCS: UH-1H Paradise Lost Campaign
$10.99
DCS: UH-1H Huey - Worlds Apart Spring 2025 Campaign
$11.99
DCS: NS 430 Navigation System
$10.99
DCS: NS 430 Navigation System for C-101EB
$5.99
DCS: NS 430 Navigation System for C-101СС
$5.99
DCS: NS 430 Navigation System for L-39С
$5.99
DCS: NS 430 Navigation System for Mi-8MTV2
$5.99
DCS: NS 430 Navigation System for SA342 Gazelle
$5.99
DCS: Mosquito FB IV - V for Victory Campaign Reflected Simulations
$11.99
DCS: DCS: AV-8B Kerman Campaign by Ground Pounder Sims
$13.99
DCS: F/A-18C Inherent Resolve Campaign by Looking Glass
$13.99
$3,232.80
Add all DLC to Cart
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I moved to IL-2, and the reason is the rest of old Loose Deuce are there now.
Planes are more complex to operate, and every plane has its own quirks (cooling, engine management etc etc)
There are a bunch of servers of there with less than 83 players max in one ( one is more scenario-style, others are more like AH with or without RPS, win the game style, one I know of is total hardcore).
To say FM in AH is better than for example DCS - real pilots who have flown the real stuff (search youtube) can probably give you a good opinion, both DCS and IL2 are more detailed managing an airplane and punish you if you don't do it right, much like a real plane would.
Tried DCS, and as much as I like fiddling with engine controls etc, they are currently limited to a very small plane-set in WWII.
AH was always an easy and fun way to play with friends - changes in gameplay and low numbers in Euro TZ on too big maps made me leave, not the money, not the flight models.
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Reviews of DCS
" love the game and the immersion it gives you in VR. I have been waiting patiently for ED to implement a better VR experience. But I cannot in good faith recommend it yet for VR users until ED sorts out the instability in VR mode. I have a very good upper spec PC and run a Reverb G2, the hit and miss loading and blue screen crashes in VR is extremely frustrating and sucks time from you that you will never get back. The Multi threading recently introduced has helped the frame rate but definitely NOT the stability. I can play all my Racing Sims, (except ACC) without issue. Which proves my hardware works well. I'm sorry ED, but I will not be spending any more money or recommending this to friends until these problems are fixed. VR is the future in flight sims and you would think it would be a priority. I shall continue to wait..... "
"I love the game generally, but I want to use more than one plane without going into debt.
Like seriously... $80 for a plane in a videogame..."
"i love dcs it is a great game but it can get very expensive
i recommend getting the flaming cliffs 3 pack when it goes on sale as it gives you 6 different planes and is only 20 pounds on sale "
"New players, remember ALL modules have a free trial period for and is available to everyone, and the 2 weeks reset every 6 months, so you can get a feel of the craft before you purchase xoxo "
"I would recommend this game, but there are certainly some strings attached. If you're considering this game, you need to know some things first: This is a very deeply researched, and accurate simulator. I'm a GA pilot in real life, and the flight models are insanely accurate. The WWII planes make me feel like I should never touch a tail-dragger.
But, you get what you pay for, and that is the biggest hurdle. My circle of friends have resorted to a 'gift system' because justifying the $60 planes and maps is getting difficult. It feels better buying it for someone else; which brings us to point number two!
If you're playing online with friends, they need to buy their own planes, they need to own the same map, and god-forbid you play with a WWII asset pack because that's $60 too. Oh, and as far as what you're gonna do? Well, you had better get used to using the in-game mission maker, because missions are another $60 DLC.
Getting a new plane in this game is followed by about three days of youtube tutorials and reading manuals like homework. After all of that, you find yourself flying your new plane and mastering it; I played with the A-10, an excellent bird, and a lot of fun to fly. What happened? I spent 90 real minutes flying to catch up with my friends in F-14s and F-16s, just in time for them to run out of fuel.
So, if you do buy this game, just know that these challenges are the caveats you have to reckon with before you can start to jump into the action. Again, this is a fun experience, and it never gets old, but you will pay: with your money, and with your time, in order to fully enjoy DCS. "
"Jet go zoom, Wallet go boom. "
I can go on, but my point was made.
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Reviews of DCS
Dude. You are more obsessed with DCS than anyone.
Have you been to the AH Steam page? You really don't want to go down that argument rabbit trail.
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IL-2 another money pit. with a lower FM
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IL-2 Sturmovik: Flying Circus - Volume II
-25%
$79.99
$59.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Spitfire Mk.XIVe with Teardrop Canopy
-20%
$19.99
$15.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Sopwith Snipe Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Normandy
$59.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Arado Ar 234 B-2 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Spitfire Mk.XIV Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Steel Birds Campaign
$9.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Kuban
$49.00
IL-2 Sturmovik: Spitfire Mk.VB Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Hs 129 B-2 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Tank Crew - Clash at Prokhorovka
$79.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: C-47A Skytrain Collector Plane
$24.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: StuG III Ausf.G Collector Vehicle
$24.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Churchill IV Collector Vehicle
$24.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Sd.Kfz. 10/5 Flak 38 Anti-Aircraft Gun
$24.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: GAZ-MM 72-K Anti-Aircraft Gun
$24.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Hurricane Mk.II Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Yak-9 Series 1 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Yak-9T Series 1 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Bodenplatte
$49.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: P-38J-25 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: P-40E-1 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Ice Ring Campaign
$9.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Flying Circus - Volume I
$79.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Moscow
$49.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Fw 190 D-9 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Ju 52/Зm Collector Plane
$24.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Polikarpov U-2VS
$22.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: La-5FN series 2 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Bf 109 G-6 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Yak-1b Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: MC.202 Series VIII Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: La-5 Series 8 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Fw 190 A-3 Collector Plane
$19.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Blazing Steppe Campaign
$9.99
IL-2 Sturmovik: Fortress on the Volga Campaign
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Dude. You are more obsessed with DCS than anyone.
Have you been to the AH Steam page? You really don't want to go down that argument rabbit trail.
Dude, you're becoming a vexation. I'm going to bomb those pages.
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Dude. You are more obsessed with DCS than anyone.
Have you been to the AH Steam page? You really don't want to go down that argument rabbit trail.
Sure I do. And will. Go play your game. Your ignorant comments here are annoying and obvious
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Dude, you're becoming a vexation. I'm going to bomb those pages.
You're kinda emotionally unstable, aren't you? Is that what got you in so much trouble all those years?
Go take your meds. Or at least a midol.
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You're kinda emotionally unstable, aren't you? Is that what got you in so much trouble all those years?
Go take your meds. Or at least a midol.
no. you're just an idiot. Selling Horse SHT on another board,... go play your diamond dust game. You don't want to comment on the prices do you..... because it's garbage. Different audience, different game,.. you don't like it,.. great,...you made your point 120000 times. You just here to sell. You know it, everyone sees it. Just trolling around on other boards,.. that's something you'll have to deal with there, because I'm going.
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no. you're just an idiot. Selling Horse SHT on another board,... go play your diamond dust game. You don't want to comment on the prices do you..... because it's garbage. Different audience, different game,.. you don't like it,.. great,...you made your point 120000 times. You just here to sell. You know it, everyone sees it. Just trolling around on other boards,.. that's something you'll have to deal with there, because I'm going.
OK. Tell you what we should do. I'll put you on ignore, and you can go off and steal some peoples creative content. :aok
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I paid $50 for the Huey module. I would have paid $500.00
I paid $55 for the Apache module and I would have paid even more.
I paid $50 for the F-86 Sabre well worth more than that.
I paid $18.00 for the F-18 Hornet. It was on sale and I used miles.
There are sales all the time. Steam is not the place to make a comparison. By getting the beta version of the game you are able to trial each module for two weeks to see if you want to buy it.
I play aces high and DCS. Most of the people I used to play aces high with are now playing DCS. You can play both games.
No they do not talk about aces high on DCS forums. Because there is no comparison or competition for that matter.
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Well if nothing else all this talk of DCS and IL and I’m going to stay here sticking with the $15. You all are welcome buy cartoon airplanes elsewhere. I don’t care, nobody should.
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Max has a point
Even after much time in fighter ace switching to AH was a difficult time
It took FA going into the toilet to motivate me to spend the time needed
I still super sucked for years but stuck with it
I don't think many have the desire to make such a commitment these days when there are cheaper/free and easier ways for them to get a a2a fix
Eagler
Someone could sit on the runway as ghost did back in the day.. chances are their default vox settings won't work.
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The maps in DCS are ten times the size of the entire aces high game itself, hell all three aces high versions.
There's only max seventy people in one server. There are several of those servers on just about every continent on the planet. To compare aces high to DCS is an embarrassment as DCS has way more going on in terms of detail and flight modeling. That being said there are a few modules that are crackheadish and the flight model is garbage. The learning curve for DCS is way higher than aces high.
The only difference is that those seventy people are all fighting each other on a huge map. Unlike in aces high where you have a huge map, and everyone goes and does whatever wherever.
then come on this BB and complain there are no fights. Sound about, right? Maybe less NOE base captures.
What happened to the days when we would fight for six to eight hours over one airfield???
I play both games, DCS and aces high. I play one more than the other. In one game people runaway when they lose the upper hand and in the other, they battle until they cannot battle anymore.
Where are all of these populated servers? Of the few times I was looking at DCS I didnt see them.
Most of the videos Ive watched of DCS show no more than a plane or two. Where are all these "great fights"?
Sure its pretty, but like I was telling "Frenchy" I only need to see enough of the plane to try and figure my lead, of which way to turn to avoid his shot. AH is far better even now. Good players, good fights, good game. It just needs a little TLC.
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When I had my 2 weeks free period in DCS, I experienced the same low numbers.
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Where are all of these populated servers? Of the few times I was looking at DCS I didnt see them.
Most of the videos Ive watched of DCS show no more than a plane or two. Where are all these "great fights"?
Sure its pretty, but like I was telling "Frenchy" I only need to see enough of the plane to try and figure my lead, of which way to turn to avoid his shot. AH is far better even now. Good players, good fights, good game. It just needs a little TLC.
If a player has an eagle dynamics account, then that person logs into the DCS webpage. Then that person selects "profile" from the top right. Once a person does that, on the left the person will notice the tab titled " server list " and click on the tab. This shows active servers and numbers of people currently playing.
Type PvP in the server list to find active servers with or without a password.
There are two top servers right now for PvP action.
One is growling sidewinders and the other is enigmas cold war.
I mostly play in Enigmas cold war because it's the best place for helo battles. There is constant air war going on in there above me EVERY time I play in there.
Both games are a lot of fun. The excitement of air-to-air combat when I first started playing flight sims is what we are all chasing. DCS takes that level of excitement to a new height for me. Most players are not wanting to do a bunch of extra work to play DCS compared to just jumping in a cartoon plane and rolling out where once you set your controls up, they are good for all aircraft.
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When I had my 2 weeks free period in DCS, I experienced the same low numbers.
There is no free two-week period unless you are trialing an aircraft.
Try again.
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So what do they pat you to come here to sell their product? Do you get s free plane?
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So wghst do they pat you to come here to sell their product? Do you get s free plane?
You get to have some fun. You don't have to if you don't want to.
Be a lot cooler if you did.
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You know I’m going to there, hijack threads and sell AH, right? $15 for better FM, 120 planes, vehicles, boats, much more economical, way more fun, fights within 5 minutes. Better yet, cheaper fir kids and college students.
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OK. Tell you what we should do. I'll put you on ignore, and you can go off and steal some peoples creative content. :aok
:banana: :rofl
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Oh look its panty wad. He prolly going to sell DCS too
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You know I’m going to there, hijack threads and sell AH, right? $15 for better FM, 120 planes, vehicles, boats, much more economical, way more fun, fights within 5 minutes. Better yet, cheaper fir kids and college students.
When I tell DCS players about aces high if they have seen it they laugh it off.
You read into things the wrong way. I am not promoting DCS. I am promoting ME playing DCS. I also promote ME playing aces high. I promote others playing aces high and DCS. They are fun games. Most of the aces high players everyone is wanting to come back are now playing DCS.
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You sit here 24/7 to hijack threads to sell your product. Nope they don’t only the mouthy ones like the one above do. Been there, read it, they say AH FM is better. Whats your pay?
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Money pit
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AH is a better sell for the money,….in every single thread. I’ll tell them you and your little buddy sent me. They gonna my love me
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your really bad at trolling LOL
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Oh look its panty wad. He prolly going to sell DCS too
SAAMIAM is that you?
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your really bad at trolling LOL
Nope, ask ppl who know me. You’re in fir a show, because of you two, maybe 3 panty wad will prolly join you. The new nly one who cried someone used his publicly posted vids with no copyright claim.
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SAAMIAM is that you?
Steel anyones copyright music get your vid ripped, then complained domeone used a few clips of your video lately?
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To echo Trips;
You're emotionally unstable.
Go take your meds.
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hat said, I refer back to my last statement in my reply above. It won’t happen be ause HT doesn’t do anything but collect money for no servuce. I couldn’t even get an email answered, so good luck asking for anything else. Its just true, sad, but true. And thats what makes AH seem expensive. We have to call him to get him to pay attention at all?! Asking for anything seems moot.
I do my best to answer all emails and calls. I have no idea why yours did not get answered.
HiTech
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I do my best to answer all emails and calls. I have no idea why yours did not get answered.
HiTech
He also stated that he thought he got permission from me to use my footage in his recent film. I'd hazard an opinion that this sending of an Email was also in his imagination.
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He also stated that he thought he got permission from me to use my footage in his recent film. I'd hazard an opinion that this sending of an Email was also in his imagination.
Dude, you're obsessive. You said no, it was taken down, and you just go on and on and on. Get over it, it was a mistake.... kinda like you thought you could put just any song in your video yep, you don't want to talk about that. Such a hypocrite. So done with your obnoxious drivel. But you're not. I'll prolly hear about it 2 yrs from now. You have one goal,.. to run around doing your best to make me look bad. I get it, I got it..... your point has been over-made. Here we are in yet another thread with you biting my ankles. Find something to do. You wore out your welcome with me.
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He also stated that he thought he got permission from me to use my footage in his recent film. I'd hazard an opinion that this sending of an Email was also in his imagination.
I hope you are as hard on yourself when you make a single mistake as you are anyone else.
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I do my best to answer all emails and calls. I have no idea why yours did not get answered.
HiTech
Dale, ..it's ok, I don't really even care about that other stuff. I was just kicking the bee hive in the comment...I'm just glad to you see made an appearance and you're still with us. We really needed that.
It was about FMOD and Chalengers bank files and question about FMOD, I talked to FMOD, it's a no go. I think I used the info link.
You know me, I've got ideas. And prolly too much time on my hands this time of year. Hang tough, peaks and valleys. :) <S>
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I hope you are as hard on yourself when you make a single mistake as you are anyone else.
I suggest you go and read his messages in this thread and his film thread again before you begin to stick your neck out too far.
A number of people are already seeing the warning signs and red flags.
That said, if you want to join Eagler and noppop as one of his.. er.. "followers" or "supporters" that's fine by me, just don't expect anyone else to take anything you say from this moment onwards with any seriousness or credibility.
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I suggest you go and read his messages in this thread and his film thread again before you begin to stick your neck out too far.
A number of people are already seeing the warning signs and red flags.
That said, if you want to join Eagler and noppop as one of his.. er.. "followers" or "supporters" that's fine by me, just don't expect anyone else to take anything you say from this moment onwards with any seriousness or credibility.
Grow up already,.. my god. a lot more important then your rants right now.
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Oh my, it was not my intention to raise a 6 page bash on AH, or to compare other games here. It was a suggestion to encourage past players to get back into AH with an incentive of 2 weeks. If they stay it’s a win. If they don’t it would at least raise the numbers in the MA, for the ones here that are complaining about low numbers.
If you took the time to look at my join date you would see when I started with AH. If you check the stats you will see the last time I flew in the MA was 2019. I say the MA because I and the others of our past squad still fly in the Training Area with Morphine, an old friend and trainer. We do this when he is able to make it, and gives us time to catch up on life.
One of the main reasons the Squad left was that we were a P-51 fighter group and got tired of ENY kicking in when we were in the middle of a Squad night. Moving to one of the other options we no longer have this problem.
I don’t think it is fair to try to compare AH to other options each has its own merits and flaws. Some for fun factor others for realism. Each person has to decide how they want to invest their own time and money.
Reb28
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Oh my, it was not my intention to raise a 6 page bash on AH, or to compare other games here. It was a suggestion to encourage past players to get back into AH with an incentive of 2 weeks. If they stay it’s a win. If they don’t it would at least raise the numbers in the MA, for the ones here that are complaining about low numbers.
If you took the time to look at my join date you would see when I started with AH. If you check the stats you will see the last time I flew in the MA was 2019. I say the MA because I and the others of our past squad still fly in the Training Area with Morphine, an old friend and trainer. We do this when he is able to make it, and gives us time to catch up on life.
One of the main reasons the Squad left was that we were a P-51 fighter group and got tired of ENY kicking in when we were in the middle of a Squad night. Moving to one of the other options we no longer have this problem.
I don’t think it is fair to try to compare AH to other options each has its own merits and flaws. Some for fun factor others for realism. Each person has to decide how they want to invest their own time and money.
Reb28
hey do this in every thread that has to do with the future of the game. You're just another victim.
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I suggest you go and read his messages in this thread and his film thread again before you begin to stick your neck out too far.
A number of people are already seeing the warning signs and red flags.
That said, if you want to join Eagler and noppop as one of his.. er.. "followers" or "supporters" that's fine by me, just don't expect anyone else to take anything you say from this moment onwards with any seriousness or credibility.
He's obviously an emotionally unstable whack-job.
He wasn't successful trying to take Challengers work and present as his own, so he switched targets to videos.
Maybe he should try creating his own content instead of feeding off of others like a parasite.
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Oh my, it was not my intention to raise a 6 page bash on AH, or to compare other games here. It was a suggestion to encourage past players to get back into AH with an incentive of 2 weeks. If they stay it’s a win. If they don’t it would at least raise the numbers in the MA, for the ones here that are complaining about low numbers.
If you took the time to look at my join date you would see when I started with AH. If you check the stats you will see the last time I flew in the MA was 2019. I say the MA because I and the others of our past squad still fly in the Training Area with Morphine, an old friend and trainer. We do this when he is able to make it, and gives us time to catch up on life.
One of the main reasons the Squad left was that we were a P-51 fighter group and got tired of ENY kicking in when we were in the middle of a Squad night. Moving to one of the other options we no longer have this problem.
I don’t think it is fair to try to compare AH to other options each has its own merits and flaws. Some for fun factor others for realism. Each person has to decide how they want to invest their own time and money.
Reb28
+1 on your OP.
I think reactivating previous players is the best path to higher numbers. They are the generation that have the most affinity to AH's unique style.
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One of the main reasons the Squad left was that we were a P-51 fighter group and got tired of ENY kicking in when we were in the middle of a Squad night.
Was the Pony Bravo not an option? It's ENY is quite high, and it's a very capable fighter. Also the 4th FG did fly P47s you weren't locked into PonyDs
I don’t think it is fair to try to compare AH to other options each has its own merits and flaws. Some for fun factor others for realism. Each person has to decide how they want to invest their own time and money.
The consumer compares AH to the other options whether it's fair or not, however does the average flight sim consumer know of AH's existence when comparing?
I know from experience that in conversation people are able to name a number of other flight sims, but very rarely AH.
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That said, if you want to join Eagler and noppop as one of his.. er.. "followers" or "supporters" that's fine by me, just don't expect anyone else to take anything you say from this moment onwards with any seriousness or credibility.
Lol
Not a follower whatever you think that is I just found it incredibly immature you whined about him using your precious films in an attempt to improve subscribers
Eagler
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Lol
Not a follower whatever you think that is I just found it incredibly immature you whined about him using your precious films in an attempt to improve subscribers
Eagler
There is nothing stopping him or you or anyone else posting links directly to my or any other AcesHigh film in an attempt to improve AcesHigh's subscribers.
:ahand
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I think we can dispel the myth of who does and does not read the forums.
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This is off the rails.