General Forums => Films and Screenshots => Topic started by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2023, 10:32:51 PM
Title: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2023, 10:32:51 PM
This is the edited version. 3-4 minutes of content was dropped from the first version. It's a bit disheartening to watch YouTube destroy quality, but it is what it is.
HD Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKn1Eclw0k
Link works
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: LCADolby on May 16, 2023, 05:14:29 AM
I'll give my worthless opinion;
There are a number of scenes were the camera hangs too long before transitioning, it's making the viewing pretty dull, also If I were you I'd do some more condensing and bring the film to the 5min mark. You're trying to sell AcesHigh, the action should be dramatic and exiting. It's got to make me feel like I want to pick up and try AcesHigh or engage my curiosity. More dynamic movements with the cameras would go along way to help with that, there's way too much static cam watching at planes startup. Plus focus in on all the newer AH3 3D models we're doing marketing here, "gotta show the game is it's best light".
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 16, 2023, 05:30:03 AM
It is what it is. I’m not into marketing, every video is marketing. Don’t watch it. Its not changing no natter what you say. Its not a flash ad, its a movie. Make your own. This was expected. Its different on purpose. This is why I didn’t use your clips, you’d be forcing me to hack it up to YOUR liking “ir else”. Too much trouble. It stays as is.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 16, 2023, 07:46:45 AM
I think this version is much better. Glad you cut out the final 3 minutes from that earlier video as this seems more intense and more inline with the mood of the video. I really enjoyed that bomber formation at 5:55. I think this one is much better. My only criticism would be to shorten the spit chase at 7:25 and crop off about 10 seconds to where the spit is bearing down after the turn. It's hard to tell exactly what he's doing. The part where he get vis on the plane and shoots is what you want. I just think that clip is too long. Also, the part right after, of the P51 shooting the bombers just isn't very action filled. I don't know if it's just the chase view or needs to be a different view. It just seems sorta staged to chase 3 bombers until they shoot you down like that. To me, it just didn't go with the rest of the film. Other than those 2, I think the rest of it is pretty good. Perhaps replace the p51 shooting the bombers with a video of the bombers bombing a CV or battleship? Just throwing it out there. I do think this one is better though! :aok
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 16, 2023, 08:15:37 AM
Your comments are worthy, but some of this reqiires more then one person, no one jumped in.i think everyone is used to nothing but kill shots and no real flow or direction. Which is fine, but if I were to do what everyone else does why bother…imo. This is set to every second of music, changing one scene will cause havok all the way down the line, it would just get trashed. >shrug> it took weeks to set it to music. It is what it is now.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 16, 2023, 01:11:28 PM
Sorry my text comes off a bit strong, don't mean to. The last one bit me, I try to avoid round 2.
Think of it this way, Cinematic
Theatrics. >IMO< there should be a direction. A to B to C etc.. Movies don't start out with the climax of the movie in the first shot and repeat it, neither does a fireworks show....but failed ones do. There is a natural build-up. This is not meant to be an Ad. Ads click right through everything and a lot is missed cramming into short slots, there's not much immersion happening, just power of suggestion.
It's a movie, I HOPE it has a direction and a finale. Gone with the Wind should not be viewed as a commercial.
One can have all the best shots ever, if they don't flow in a direction they are just pretty shots.
I'm not a salesman, but IMO those new types who want everything instant, probably aren't going to stay. Ya don't just hop in a plane and 20 seconds later you're blasting 20 planes out of the air,...IMO it's misleading. It could be marketing the wrong crowd. IMO the enthusiast is the one that will stay.
Maybe we're all on the same page, I dunno.
It's not something that will save the world, it may not even bring in 1. 1000s of great videos out there. Who can raise their hand and say their video drew people in? Everyone thinks theirs will. I have no clue if I'll draw more then 1. It gave me something to do, a distraction. I'm just a dude who made a video, like the other 2000 out there. <shrug>
I'm going the cinematic-historical route. I'd love to do the next scenario into a similar style movie. There are even tons of those out there.
I may have failed, but, out do me, by all means. :)
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 16, 2023, 01:25:12 PM
I MAY change the p-51 buff slot. if ya have buff gun films, I'd change it.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: LCADolby on May 16, 2023, 03:42:17 PM
Sorry my text comes off a bit strong, don't mean to. The last one bit me, I try to avoid round 2.
I'm not going for round 2 either which is why I gave you constructive feedback based on what you said your film was going to be about. I see that you have changed your vision/Design-brief and it is no longer about helping AcesHigh player numbers grow, it's just another cinematic.. therefore, forget I said anything and congrats on your film.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 16, 2023, 05:14:31 PM
I'm not going for round 2 either which is why I gave you constructive feedback based on what you said your film was going to be about. I see that you have changed your vision/Design-brief and it is no longer about helping AcesHigh player numbers grow, it's just another cinematic.. therefore, forget I said anything and congrats on your film.
I should let this lay,.. but,... that's not what I said nor meant at all. And this is why we cannot communicate. You tend to put words in my mouth.
All I was saying is my video is probably not the holly grail. Believe it or not, some people are humbled in life. I haven't changed any vision, you just don't seem to understand my vision (actually you do, I'll get to that) and want me to change it to yours. Basically you wanted me to delete 3/4 of my movie, it's saying "just trash it". Which removing 3/4 of it would do. Any and all videos is marketing, even ones that totally blow.
I never saw any purpose of rounding a mountain over a town, it didn't serve any purpose, but damn! what a great shot. It's actually your chase scene over a hill top that sold me on cinematic. Were you trying to not help?
Why would going Cinematic and Historical mean I'm not trying to help? BTW, your own most precious videos are labeled "Cinematic". Pretty sure it's one that you claim brought more players. Pot-kettle.
You tend to want the last word in misguiding the masses about me, to people who've known me longer then AH existed. I've never done anything but help the sim I'm in...always. That's what I'm known best for. I often do that more then actual flying. <shrug>
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Dadtallica on May 16, 2023, 05:58:22 PM
Animal you credited me me for a Lancaster. I’m guessing it was the carrier landing one. You must have reversed it because I remember coming from the other side lol.
Good stuff anyway. :aok
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 16, 2023, 06:18:22 PM
Animal you credited me me for a Lancaster. I’m guessing it was the carrier landing one. You must have reversed it because I remember coming from the other side lol.
Good stuff anyway. :aok
Thanks
Yup,.. simple crash, but it fit that music perfectly. I don't think I flipped anything, I just chased your AC. Unfortunately, I don't have time to deal with copyright agreements and toasted that segment, I was just having fun with it. I forgot to edit that credit out. A lot has to change to remove or add something. I'm now wanting to replace the P-51-buff scene. But I'm happy with the rest. I just don't want the whole thing to be DF to DF, it gets mundane.
Thanks for contributing to someone not around long enough to build a personal library of films. I feel almost like I just stepped out of the twilight zone. I was just going through too much and my brain wanted to remove data memory to make room to cope. I'm not as deep in the core as I used to be, which makes things a little harder. 14 years ago I could answer any and every question you had,... not so much now. I'm asking the questions. <shrug>
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 17, 2023, 12:00:00 AM
I think this version is much better. Glad you cut out the final 3 minutes from that earlier video as this seems more intense and more inline with the mood of the video. I really enjoyed that bomber formation at 5:55. I think this one is much better. My only criticism would be to shorten the spit chase at 7:25 and crop off about 10 seconds to where the spit is bearing down after the turn. It's hard to tell exactly what he's doing. The part where he get vis on the plane and shoots is what you want. I just think that clip is too long. Also, the part right after, of the P51 shooting the bombers just isn't very action filled. I don't know if it's just the chase view or needs to be a different view. It just seems sorta staged to chase 3 bombers until they shoot you down like that. To me, it just didn't go with the rest of the film. Other than those 2, I think the rest of it is pretty good. Perhaps replace the p51 shooting the bombers with a video of the bombers bombing a CV or battleship? Just throwing it out there. I do think this one is better though! :aok
Ya know,....I wasn't 100% with the 51-buff shot either. The great scene I did want there just won't fit in a 10 sec slot, to cut it down makes it unworthy. I'll have to go through a lot of films to find that worthy 10 seconds, that's how it ended up there.
That Spit shot, you have to look closer but you'll see it traveling along side him through the loop and even over the city together. The color blending with the background as it travels. It really only becomes more visible when it hits a lighter bkg. An exciting part is when HE sees it and jumps. YouTube compression just aided it's ghostliness. Not planned. On my PC I'm seeing the whole run. That's a reality I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle to change.
The more you watch it, the more you'll notice many things going with the soundtrack and video. Even the prop startup (vid) speed was tweaked a touch with certain drum mallets. Each scene (of 4) have their own soundtrack song, which is a .wav file. IF I change the size or speed of any shot in that scene,..it throws the sync of the scene out the window, until it's filled exact. It could be Movie Maker makes it harder then it should be.
If it were just background music it wouldn't matter, I could rebuild the whole thing in 20 minutes. Changing size, speed, or replacing in this is not a plug-n-play thing. Sometimes I get lucky.
I think the more likely is I replace the 51-buff shot. I just don't have anything picked out.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 17, 2023, 07:12:55 AM
Ya know,....I wasn't 100% with the 51-buff shot either. The great scene I did want there just won't fit in a 10 sec slot, to cut it down makes it unworthy. I'll have to go through a lot of films to find that worthy 10 seconds, that's how it ended up there.
That Spit shot, you have to look closer but you'll see it traveling along side him through the loop and even over the city together. The color blending with the background as it travels. It really only becomes more visible when it hits a lighter bkg. An exciting part is when HE sees it and jumps. YouTube compression just aided it's ghostliness. Not planned. On my PC I'm seeing the whole run. That's a reality I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle to change.
The more you watch it, the more you'll notice many things going with the soundtrack and video. Even the prop startup (vid) speed was tweaked a touch with certain drum mallets. Each scene (of 4) have their own soundtrack song, which is a .wav file. IF I change the size or speed of any shot in that scene,..it throws the sync of the scene out the window, until it's filled exact. It could be Movie Maker makes it harder then it should be.
If it were just background music it wouldn't matter, I could rebuild the whole thing in 20 minutes. Changing size, speed, or replacing in this is not a plug-n-play thing. Sometimes I get lucky.
I think the more likely is I replace the 51-buff shot. I just don't have anything picked out.
I see, well I certainly do think this version is better and more thrilling. The spit one is fine, but I do hope perhaps you find a better one of the bombers. You are we welcome to use my film a few threads below of me shooting the bombers down in the appetizer, dinner, dessert film. Which was a fun attack for me. I was feeling it in the K4 that day. But if you are looking for bombers shooting down a plane, not sure I have a film of that. Just throwing it out there. But definitely a cool film you put together for sure!
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: LCADolby on May 17, 2023, 08:50:37 AM
I didn't suggest you just trash it or follow my vision :rolleyes:, regular potentially interested viewers will switch off after half way through the 3rd engine star-up, your average view analytics will be around 30 seconds.
but fine, I'm not wasting anymore my time, it's more valuable elsewhere. You're intensely irritating and frustrating.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: haggerty on May 17, 2023, 09:13:01 AM
I see, well I certainly do think this version is better and more thrilling. The spit one is fine, but I do hope perhaps you find a better one of the bombers. You are we welcome to use my film a few threads below of me shooting the bombers down in the appetizer, dinner, dessert film. Which was a fun attack for me. I was feeling it in the K4 that day. But if you are looking for bombers shooting down a plane, not sure I have a film of that. Just throwing it out there. But definitely a cool film you put together for sure!
Here is the video from my perspective, I prefer the in cockpit view while i'm dancing with the corsair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRPRhLon1fE
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 17, 2023, 10:05:43 AM
I know some question the length of the film, that’s not out of line. But, if I can keep the attention to the last second then it’s not a huge issue. If I can’t then its too long.
IMO, dogfight films are ok, some are great shots. But there is a lot more to the game. If we’re not showing that then we’re selling DFs, not the whole game.
A lot of people left before AH 3, I think its good to show we have the graphics to compete. The damage model (strikes, explosions) needs some updating. But the rest looks as good. Less trees seems to be about game play and lighter work on video and connection, I could be wrong. HT can correct me. But I think I read the players wanted it dialed back.
I’m watching numbers drop in what some say are better graphic games, thats a marketing study as to why, IMO they just aren’t as fun. Did they leave the genre or couldn’t find graphics and fun combo? Is the genre dying off? We seem to be drawing back former players over new. But they already know the game.
If some are going to make vids to draw people in we should show more then DF clips. What some are saying is boring is actually exploiting graphics. If DF films actually sell this arena would be packed. Its not, we should change that. Doing the same thing over and over with not getting different results, we know what that is. There are some who love the ground and ship play.
I did the movie this way to not only draw players, but in hopes it inspires our film makers to expand on their vision. I hope someone makes my vid look like crap. That would make me happy. Don’t make me look like crap in words, make me look like crap with your end product. It can only help this great game. IF, a few can learn to work together as a team on a video it could turn out a great product and learn new tricks.
Film makers are our marketing.
IF we can draw more players it might inspire HT to fix a couple bugs and update the damage model. That would help the draw too. Give and take. That will put us on the same level as the games losing players because not as much fun. The core does not need updating.
Time will tell if this style had any success.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Eagler on May 17, 2023, 10:29:45 AM
I appreciate all your time and effort on this Animl!
Eagler
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: nopoop on May 17, 2023, 11:26:21 AM
As do I. Thanks !!
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Prayer on May 17, 2023, 01:17:59 PM
Appreciate the time and effort Animl! <S>
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 17, 2023, 03:03:14 PM
Here is the video from my perspective, I prefer the in cockpit view while i'm dancing with the corsair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRPRhLon1fE
I can replace that 52 second slot with the cockpit view, or a mix. Can you make me one with icons off in .avi 1920 X 1080? I tried to mimic it without icons, but you did a better job. That could be an easy change. If so, The only delivery I know of is YT as a temp thing, or if you have a ftp. But ya I'll do that.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 17, 2023, 04:46:08 PM
I didn't suggest you just trash it or follow my vision :rolleyes:, regular potentially interested viewers will switch off after half way through the 3rd engine star-up, your average view analytics will be around 30 seconds.
but fine, I'm not wasting anymore my time, it's more valuable elsewhere. You're intensely irritating and frustrating.
Making a 14 minute movie into a 5 minute advertisement is basically trashing it. But you require repeats. I'll think about it and see what it does before I make a move to trash a crap load of work you didn't have to do.
You >>>>MAY<<<< be right, I'll study that on my own. *70+ views in 18 hours on the new version *80 views on the 1st version. *Right now the average is hitting 7 minutes, well past 30 seconds. *SO you're wrong about the "average" and the "30 seconds" they make it well past that scene. *7 minutes is into the combat scenes. So what happened there? That's your combat push. That's the major dip. Redundant after 20 yrs and 1000s of like videos? * BTW 7-8 minutes was my initial time limit, I nailed what the average viewing would be straight out of the box.. The best out of 18 min will get me there, 4 minutes already dropped. *40+% is watching the whole thing. *You're the only one complaining. And you're wrong about what you're complaining most about. I'll read my own data over your speculations
What you want removed is what they make it past, what you're pushing is where it caves.
Personally, watching a pyro show at a concert gets really boring after it's fired 10 times, frankly after the first 3 the shock value is gone. If all I see is kill shots I stop viewing, so does the average.I like more depth to keep my interest.
You'd be wise to listen more then talk.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: haggerty on May 17, 2023, 05:59:10 PM
I can replace that 52 second slot with the cockpit view, or a mix. Can you make me one with icons off in .avi 1920 X 1080? I tried to mimic it without icons, but you did a better job. That could be an easy change. If so, The only delivery I know of is YT as a temp thing, or if you have a ftp. But ya I'll do that.
I wasnt trying to say your video needed a change, just showing DmonSlyr the story behind that scene. I always had trouble making .avi from the film viewer, but I can give it a shot if I remember after work today.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 17, 2023, 06:28:17 PM
I wasnt trying to say your video needed a change, just showing DmonSlyr the story behind that scene. I always had trouble making .avi from the film viewer, but I can give it a shot if I remember after work today.
I didn't play with it long and find some honey spot setting,.. but I didn't get the quality I needed when I saved to AVI from film viewer. It's prolly just me not using the right setting, I had a path of least resistance I could use.
NO NO!,..I think you were right. That was a early made scene,... after watching the whole movie I think that change of cockpit view keeping track of the hog is great break for the next exterior shot/fight which has to stay exterior. Try to never do anything more then twice in a row.
How ever you made it for YT, just with icons off, will be fine. I appreciate input, it's more of a team effort to find what REALLY works, everyone should feel free to speak up, just keep it reasonable. :) <S> The goal is a great end product.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 17, 2023, 06:33:55 PM
INTERESTING STATS The very highest drop of viewing? wait for it,... wait for it....
The beginning intro pic. <blank stare> They never made it to the first scene. <blank stare> As soon as the plane startup scene starts is when I retain audience, and that same % finishes watching it, with peaks in between. . Take note,...... 90% are probably AH players on the forum,... not new viewers. The vid is not posted anywhere by me.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: haggerty on May 18, 2023, 04:29:53 AM
I didn't play with it long and find some honey spot setting,.. but I didn't get the quality I needed when I saved to AVI from film viewer. It's prolly just me not using the right setting, I had a path of least resistance I could use.
NO NO!,..I think you were right. That was a early made scene,... after watching the whole movie I think that change of cockpit view keeping track of the hog is great break for the next exterior shot/fight which has to stay exterior. Try to never do anything more then twice in a row.
How ever you made it for YT, just with icons off, will be fine. I appreciate input, it's more of a team effort to find what REALLY works, everyone should feel free to speak up, just keep it reasonable. :) <S> The goal is a great end product.
Here are three saves I tried, unfortunately the movement of camera is very abrubt and its hard to have smooth tracking of the action. It looks like there is a setup camera shots button that appears interesting, but couldnt figure out how to master it. First 2 are external/fixed locations, 3rd is internal.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eTFqtJp3u35gpWQ69
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 18, 2023, 05:46:05 AM
People who stop watching or just click to next scene during opening pics, if those 12-16 people didn’t do that it would be more like 80-90% watch the whole thing, the next large drop is the old combat scene
Compared to other pages its all above average, except the 38 start up and combat scene. The way above average spike is the spit chase.
I’m not going to pay attention to those who leave on intro pics, that could be one person doing it several times and throw all numbers off with only 80 views
Again already AH players.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Spikes on May 18, 2023, 10:07:21 AM
The beginning intro pic. <blank stare> They never made it to the first scene. <blank stare> As soon as the plane startup scene starts is when I retain audience, and that same % finishes watching it, with peaks in between.
That isn't really shocking. It's 20 seconds of nothing - I feel as though the text and whatnot can be moved to the end. If someone stuck around that long chances are they're willing to check out the website and stuff.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 18, 2023, 10:37:54 AM
Not moving it, just cut it to 10 seconds, i don’t think its what it appears. Its more like someone making a statement. That action tanks the true numbers. Or already players just clicking past it. I’m going to make a few small edits. Working so not today. The numbers right are not our true targets. They are current players.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 18, 2023, 06:54:19 PM
I brought the bloated movie here, before calling it done, because i know these/this communities, bring a redwood tree and it will be whittled down to a tooth pick, but usually the right tooth pick. :)
I don't mind editing, this is how it happens, more on the floor then in the movie. I'm just not going to instant response jump up with a chain saw and run at it because someone says so. I prefer a 1st hand informed decision and using a scalpel.
The problem with the numbers as a guiding light,...we are polling the sellers, not the buyers. That's not horrible is they know their future audience, which is the eternal science of advertising.
Example, I've mixed 4000 concerts in 33 of 43 years, I' totally fine if I never see another concert again. I don't care if Hendrix comes back to life. I have a TV with volume control. Same with long term players, what they think has become boring is exciting to the not so well seasoned.
Right now, prolly only AH players are viewing it. That's polling the sellers not the buyers, so lets keep that in mind.
Even though it loses (or click through) 12% between intro and P-38 is not horrible, it's a drop. Again,.. with only 90-100 views,.. that could be a very small group of 8-12 people, or the same ones just on repeat.
*Redue the graphic intro from 2 to 1 pic, and slap it down to 3-4 seconds. If someone doesn't have 3-4 seconds for the reason I'm here, they need to put down the crack pipe. :) *drop the fly-by audio in intro. *Cut the engine starts to 1-3, or remove if I get an idea, I have ears. *Cut down the scenario group takeoff *Replace the P-51 suicide shot *Rework the audio for that scene because it just go whacked (not fond of that). *Replace some flash kills with longer fights, one polls well above the other with our seller It dips bad between 8:50 and 9:50, with sellers.
Anything else?
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 18, 2023, 07:06:29 PM
I wasnt trying to say your video needed a change, just showing DmonSlyr the story behind that scene. I always had trouble making .avi from the film viewer, but I can give it a shot if I remember after work today.
I was actually referring to the spit film at 7:24 where it's showing the spit in chase view attacking the Mossie. But after watching it again, I think its alright, perhaps I was being too critical there.The actual shooting of the Massie is cool.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 18, 2023, 07:33:20 PM
I was actually referring to the spit film at 7:24 where it's showing the spit in chase view attacking the Mossie. But after watching it again, I think its alright, perhaps I was being too critical there.The actual shooting of the Massie is cool.
It's ok. It's good to communicate in good faith. That scene polls WAY above normal according to YT. Biggest peak in the movie. The intense action shots failed as much as the engine starts, the only real dip, according to the sellers. <shrug>
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: LCADolby on May 18, 2023, 08:19:58 PM
DUIDE you could not have been more wrong,.. totally. You fights suggestion flopped on its face, totally wrong on ALL your numbers,.WAY off. you think you're something you're not... I'm used to that with real stars, you're not one.
2015 and only 5.7k views? You didn't bring in more then 3 people. How many times have you been kicked out? That's not even 1000 per year.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 18, 2023, 08:54:39 PM
I was actually referring to the spit film at 7:24 where it's showing the spit in chase view attacking the Mossie. But after watching it again, I think its alright, perhaps I was being too critical there.The actual shooting of the Massie is cool.
ahh, in that case it might sell to the viewers that bridges are a target you can bomb, but in reality I was bombing an M3 that was hiding underneath it. I can see your original thought though, once I turn towards town to chase him its kind of hard to see him until im starting to shoot him down.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 19, 2023, 06:37:50 AM
Ya, I like that scene, when its clear. Not sure what I’m going to edit yet.
I have a few ideas on editing this weekend. I may cut down a 3 min shot to less then a minute and use it to replace something.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: LCADolby on May 19, 2023, 06:56:40 AM
2015 and only 5.7k views? You didn't bring in more then 3 people. How many times have you been kicked out? That's not even 1000 per year.
3, bit more than that my PM sending "little man".
Kicked out, just the once.
It stopped getting views after it was posted to a website in early2016 "we are VR", whereby they refused to answer my request not link it and I took it down from viewership by making the film private. Since then it hasn't seen much light at all because it hasn't been promoted or posted anywhere outside of my channel.
Look you can try and attack me and my own films but I tried to help you, I didn't put a price on my advise trying to help your film succeed. The fact is, you're biased because of your unhappiness at getting busted by me for stealing other peoples work without permission and defensive because you think you're above my advise and criticism.
I want your film to succeed because I love and have always been passionate (to a fault sometimes) about AcesHigh, which is why I'll offer my advice, however I want you to fail because I think you're a schizophrenic bumbling old fool.
Animl don't you ever pollute my PMs ever again.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: LCADolby on May 19, 2023, 07:01:38 AM
Quote
Animl-AW Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023) « Reply #35 on: Today at 12:37:50 »
Quote
You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.
Peace at last.
:rock
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 19, 2023, 09:26:17 AM
ahh, in that case it might sell to the viewers that bridges are a target you can bomb, but in reality I was bombing an M3 that was hiding underneath it. I can see your original thought though, once I turn towards town to chase him its kind of hard to see him until im starting to shoot him down.
Oh crap I didn't even realize you were bombing something there :rofl I am watching on my phone so probably why I didn't see it.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 19, 2023, 11:00:47 AM
Editing can be disheartening for the performer as well. I don’t take it lightly to chop anyones performance. Its a time restriction thing. Editors can make people angry, not the most liked.
Mu apologies fir the process. We’re not too far from done.
I prolly have over 60-80 hrs in this, it bothers me too. But its s manditory process. I just thought it was a good idea to be inclusive, to a point.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 19, 2023, 01:04:20 PM
Probably safe to say #2 is coming
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 20, 2023, 09:37:52 AM
Take note, the video seems to be grouped with other sim videos on YT, more so then AH videos.
I view this as a good thing, it can bite back too. The latest patterns show other sim numbers dropping, while our numbers show a pattern of increasing, even if slowly.
This COULD be a good placement and timing, only time will tell if any video can help that trend. Ya gotta step in the fire to find out.
While it's only been a week, between both versions they both drew about 200 views. I'm not sure yet who those viewers are but that's not a bad pattern for a new video. That would be over 9,000 views in 12 months >IF< (a huge word) that pattern continues.
In Analytics, after the intro pics, compared to other videos on YT, it rates as above normal through the entire video, except one short dip below the line, older combat clips. While another new scene rates at high above average. Fresh is good.
According to what I've read, longer videos are becoming more popular on YT, but not other video sites.
To avoid losing viewer counts with the link changing with each version shared, the next version must be the last version, good or bad.
All videos grow old, this will too. I have some future plans for a new video I'm not going to discuss in open air. :)
I'm of the NothingVenturedNothingGained tribe.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: nopoop on May 20, 2023, 12:36:37 PM
Came across this music watching war films on UT. Dont know the legalize but it is worth a listen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUb_68-sJAI
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 20, 2023, 02:27:26 PM
Came across this music watching war films on UT. Dont know the legalize but it is worth a listen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUb_68-sJAI
Kewl. First time for me, I think. I looked into it. It falls under copyright free searches, but does not state so. Many copies of this out there with different versions or parts. It might be parts of a Batman movie soundtrack, so there COULD be issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmS7BNyQl1w
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 02:46:38 PM
That isn't really shocking. It's 20 seconds of nothing - I feel as though the text and whatnot can be moved to the end. If someone stuck around that long chances are they're willing to check out the website and stuff.
Exactly. I thought I had accidentally hit pause.
Eventually you make it to the 2 minutes of engine startups.
How many minutes in before you see the first shot fired in this combat sim video? Over 5?
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 03:31:34 PM
Eventually you make it to the 2 minutes of engine startups.
How many minutes in before you see the first shot fired in this combat sim video? Over 5?
You're just here to cause trouble for Dolby,.. therefore,.. I have no interest in what you have to say,.. other then ruining a thread to harass me on the boards. Dolby had virtual NO action.... and most flight sim videos are now 30 minutes, and not all that much action, yet get 1.4M views.
You're just here to disrupt a thread.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 03:34:27 PM
You're just here to cause trouble for Dolby,.. therefore,.. I have no interest in what you have to say,.. other then ruining a thread to harass me on the boards. Dolby had virtual NO action.... and most flight sim videos are now 30 minutes, and not all that much action, yet get 1.4M views.
You're just here to disrupt a thread.
You're right. It's perfect. Leave it just the way it is.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 03:53:40 PM
You're right. It's perfect. Leave it just the way it is.
Go back to DCS forums and scream at people in 50 post about posting AH there, saying how horrible AH is. Then come here and play victim and devoted. Did lot of bad talking HT, and then jump on the band wagon as if you really gave a crap about his issues. 2 threads were locked because of your antics.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 03:57:44 PM
here's your link, https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,407389.0.html
Q.E.D.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 04:20:48 PM
1- Posts are to be made in the relevant forum. Users are asked to read the forum descriptions before posting.
2- Threads should remain on topic, do not "hijack" topics.
3- Do not open a new thread that duplicates a current topic.
4- Flame baiting, flaming, being abusing, being disrespectful, trolling, spamming or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed. If you cannot make a positive contribution to the thread, then just stay out of it.
5- Members are asked to not act as "back seat moderators". If you feel a post violates the forum rules, the use the "Report to Moderator" link in the post to report it.
6- Posting pornographic or generally offensive text, images, links, etc. will not be tolerated. This includes attempts to bypass the profanity filter.
7- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously.
8- Complaints about a player's behavior online should be emailed to support@hitechcreations.com rather than posted to this board.
9- Users are permitted to upload one of their own avatars. Avatars must be in good taste and consistent with the other rules of this board.
10- Do not punt topics. Punting would be making a non-substantive post for the express purpose of bring the thread to the top of the thread list.
11- Members should post in a way which is consistent with "normal writing". That is users should not post excessive numbers of emoticons, large, small or colored text, etc. Similarly users should not SHOUT or use excessive punctuation (e.g. ! and ?) in topic titles or posts.
12- All posts, in public forums, should be made in the English language.
13- Threads started devoid of commentary will not be allowed (i.e. links, cut-n-pastes, clicky, read this...)
14- Posting topics or threads which are based on politics, race, or religion is expressly forbidden.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 04:28:00 PM
Go back to DCS forums and scream at people in 50 post about posting AH there, saying how horrible AH is. Then come here and play victim and devoted. Did lot of bad talking HT, and then jump on the band wagon as if you really gave a crap about his issues. 2 threads were locked because of your antics.
You don't have much grounds to stand on as you brought up this mythical thread where I posted on DCS criticizing AH first, not me.
Genius.
Yet you can not seem to produce this link. Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 05:17:20 PM
Honestly, people should be annoyed at how stupid you seem to think they are.
Who exactly do you think you are gas-lighting?
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 05:23:28 PM
Why would I post DCS content on AH page? Nice try. You proved my point on AH forums. HT read it because he locked it....that's an easy search. Same thing you're doing here. Here's your link. https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,407391.15.html
Thanks for the views!! :rock There can't be anything more gratifying, than haters giving you views. :rock
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 05:44:20 PM
Why would I post DCS content on AH page? Nice try. You proved my point on AH forums. HT read it because he locked it....that's an easy search. Same thing you're doing here. Here's your link. https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,407391.15.html
Thanks for the views!! :rock There can't be anything more gratifying, than haters giving you views. :rock
He locked it because I called you "a liar". I guess according to the rules I should have simply said you were lying and not said you ARE a liar. Lol.
However, I'm not sure how else you describe a person who continues to lie instead of admitting there was no such link as they claimed earlier.
Best Rule 4 I ever spent. I can accept that with no problem because I know you are lying, and you know you are lying, and I suspect most everyone here that has half a brain sees that you are lying still.
So the rule states I can't directly call you "a liar" even though you continue to lie. I won't do so then. But I think everyone get's it, including Hitech. If I was lying you would post the link in a second and prove me a liar.
You can't do so, which proves you are lying and have been lying.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Dadtallica on May 21, 2023, 06:00:59 PM
Animl you make really hard for anyone to talk to you. You ask for comments and pretty much rip anyone who offers them. Been telling you those title cards and low action shots were way too long since your first video you threw a tantrum on a few months ago.
This is the part where you tell us you have been “in the biz” forever.
I mean super cool that you are doing these but holy F!
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 06:07:16 PM
*Redue the graphic intro from 2 to 1 pic, and slap it down to 3-4 seconds. If someone doesn't have 3-4 seconds for the reason I'm here, they need to put down the crack pipe. :) *drop the fly-by audio in intro. *Cut the engine starts to 1-3, or remove if I get an idea, I have ears. *Cut down the scenario group takeoff *Replace the P-51 suicide shot *Rework the audio for that scene because it just go whacked (not fond of that). *Replace some flash kills with longer fights, one polls well above the other with our seller It dips bad between
Did ya miss this post? Obviously I listened.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Dadtallica on May 21, 2023, 08:22:59 PM
Keep making videos, stop asking for comments.
Anything longer than 2-3 minutes is overkill.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 08:52:19 PM
I don't recall ripping anyone but Dolby, his intentions were not honest and he proved it down the thread. We all saw what they both did in the other attempt.
My text prolly comes off a lot more dry then I intend.
I don't think explaining how much work goes into moving things when it's set to music is being harsh,.. it's just a deed I need to do that's not pleasant. I made requested changes. They haven't been posted yet.
The opening scene is now only 1 minute or less.
Right now I'm watching IL-2 movies that are 30 minutes long and have 600k-1.4M views, in 8 months. I'm still going to finish changing mine, but it is baffling.. I'm just making a point. These are very boring very staged plastic coated movies, yet get 100s of 1000s of views <SHRUG>
As far as doing anymore,... it's not worth this. And that is their goal to discourage me from doing anything. They both complained about every single thing I've done so far,.. including accusing me of stealing Chalenger's files, which CptTrips knew was a lie when he said it. Anything to deface me.
No one wants to dedicate their time just to get rude comments and horrific advise from misfits.
I listened to you, you didn't come off as a jerk. That change was made. Simple human nature bud. This stuff does take time.
Doing anything else,... not worth it under these circumstances. I can spend my time flying.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 09:09:57 PM
Animl you make really hard for anyone to talk to you. You ask for comments and pretty much rip anyone who offers them. Been telling you those title cards and low action shots were way too long since your first video you threw a tantrum on a few months ago.
This is the part where you tell us you have been “in the biz” forever.
I mean super cool that you are doing these but holy F!
Dolby (and CptTrips) threw the tantrum I just suffered it. HT agreed with me, we've talked.
Ya,.. prolly won't do this again. Too much work for the grief.
Frankly, much like HT, I've been through way too much in life to settle for one more minute of nonsense, life is way too short. Some people are ok with narcissism and mouthy immaturity... I'm not. Don't need it, not going to stick around for it.
I'll finished it as requested, stick to the MA once in a while,... and that's that. Don't need it.... thank these two yet again.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 10:17:25 PM
He locked it because I called you "a liar". I guess according to the rules I should have simply said you were lying and not said you ARE a liar. Lol.
However, I'm not sure how else you describe a person who continues to lie instead of admitting there was no such link as they claimed earlier.
Best Rule 4 I ever spent. I can accept that with no problem because I know you are lying, and you know you are lying, and I suspect most everyone here that has half a brain sees that you are lying still.
So the rule states I can't directly call you "a liar" even though you continue to lie. I won't do so then. But I think everyone get's it, including Hitech. If I was lying you would post the link in a second and prove me a liar.
You can't do so, which proves you are lying and have been lying.
Nope, not true,.. you accused me of stealing Chalenger's sound files I've already discussed this, and you're wrong like everything that comes out your mouth.
Now they can all thank YOU again, for no video.....until I finish,.. and I will post it on every page you ever visited and visit.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 10:48:53 PM
Ii’ll be on both you and Dubly yt pages EVERY SINGLE DAY
LoL. First of all, Genius, I've had 20 something pages over the years. I have no idea which dead one you are posting to, but have fun with that.
But it is very illuminating behavior. Does that look like a sane, rational, innocent person? Does his behavior look like someone who thinks they are in the right? Or a cornered rat lashing out because it is feeling trapped?
Hmmm.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 10:50:51 PM
I live in your head rent free. i know I can pull up the link of you bad mouthing HT and then kissing his foot when you found out he was sick,.... you need mental help.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 10:55:58 PM
Pretty obsessed with me spending 12 hrs to harrass me and hijack the thread. Get a job and out of mom basement
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 10:58:57 PM
I live in your head rent free. i know I can pull up the link of you bad mouthing HT and then kissing his foot when you found out he was sick,.... you need mental help.
Animl, seriously, you need professional help.
I have never posted on any thread on the DCS forum where I have bad mouthed Hitech or AH. I've never even seen a thread that mentioned AH since I've been there.
You claimed you had a link to me posting on the DCS forum trashing AH. I have never posted on or seen any such thread. As I told you my posts are confined to the mission editor forum.
Provide the link or pound sand.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 11:30:35 PM
I have never posted on any thread on the DCS forum where I have bad mouthed Hitech or AH. I've never even seen a thread that mentioned AH since I've been there.
You claimed you had a link to me posting on the DCS forum trashing AH. I have never posted on or seen any such thread. As I told you my posts are confined to the mission editor forum.
Provide the link or pound sand.
LOL You should found a bathroom mirror. You're the founder of Ftard
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 11:31:34 PM
Final Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBSZRt4-mE
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 21, 2023, 11:32:01 PM
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 11:52:36 PM
Not reading, don’t care You have a sick illness, yep, ur single
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 11:59:55 PM
Stalker. 14 hrs stalking me, that is an illness. No one knocked on your door. Obession is a psychology killer.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 22, 2023, 12:02:15 AM
I see you took our advise about the wall-o-text and the 2 minutes of thrilling engines starting.
You're learning.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 12:35:31 AM
15 hours now. You really have no life Watch my pull your puppet strings, dance. I’ll be up at 3a, I’m sure I see you sniffing around. I work for a living
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 12:36:28 AM
Don’t read, don’t care
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 12:58:17 AM
Posted at DCS, said you sent me
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 22, 2023, 01:04:23 AM
Obviously this is how rational, innocent people act.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 01:19:44 AM
Don’t read, don't care. You have an illness
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Dadtallica on May 22, 2023, 07:38:12 AM
I’ve been reading your messages since the day you came back Animl. You do not take constructive criticism well at all. Go back and reread it all maybe. I’ve even defended you when others were being silly.
Maybe you haven’t noticed and I can’t speak about the group of in-game players as a whole but the forum crowd is not interested in new people with new ideas. Spend three minutes in the O’club.
Please stop messaging me.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 22, 2023, 08:02:38 AM
Yeah, he has really been showing his arse.
But notice he finally made the changes we suggested. He can throw insults all he wants, but he knows we were right. That's why he made the changes. It just makes him spitting mad if someone suggests he is not the God-given Genius he likes to think he is.
After all, he has been in the "Biz" forever and is very respected. Top of his field. An important man. He works with very famous people every day and blah blah blah.
lol
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 08:05:54 PM
But notice he finally made the changes we suggested. He can throw insults all he wants, but he knows we were right. That's why he made the changes. It just makes him spitting mad if someone suggests he is not the God-given Genius he likes to think he is.
After all, he has been in the "Biz" forever and is very respected. Top of his field. An important man. He works with very famous people every day and blah blah blah.
lol
Paybacks are MFer. You play poor lil victim after the crap you posted in the first video thread with Dolby. LYING and accusing me of stealing sound files I never touched, not because you thought I did, but to ruin my reputation with BS. Lets not sit here and think that didn't take place, that is also searchable.. Nor the other thread you melted down on me after romping around here trying to sell your new fav sim.,.. both of which had to lock because of you two went on for ever and ever. you do not know when to stop, you do not control yourself..... then come here with insulting delivery like I'm suppose to kiss your ring and thank you for the current and past immaturity, because Dolby is swallowed whole with narcissism, which he creates a LOT of trouble with.. Neither of you two came in here with cognitive input,.. because look,.. you both went right into "Fk animl" it was all condensing deliveries. You got what you deserved. People don't forget that stuff, you both willingly burned every bridge with me before you even got here, and then expect me to rebuild it Not happening. You both dug your own pits. Time to grow up.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 08:26:06 PM
I’ve been reading your messages since the day you came back Animl. You do not take constructive criticism well at all. Go back and reread it all maybe. I’ve even defended you when others were being silly.
Maybe you haven’t noticed and I can’t speak about the group of in-game players as a whole but the forum crowd is not interested in new people with new ideas. Spend three minutes in the O’club.
Please stop messaging me.
The problem I had with your comments of me not listening came after I posted the changes requested. As I stated, you obviously missed it and I re-posted it for you to read. While probably unintended, it encouraged him to turn on the after-burners with the trolling insults FOREVER... 15 hours worth,.. that is an illness. Look, these two have made a history of flaming forever,.. ruining threads with countless post way over-stating their wrongful points, basically AOL Chat room tactics. When you develop a reputation like that, the target is not going to listen to one single word from either. I listened to people who had a mature delivery. I don't listen to haters,.. in the end their true intentions came out,... I was not wrong in predicting it. I'm at least fairly perceptive. Notice, where one goes the other goes,... and none of it is in good faith. Stir the pot and keep it stirred for several pages. They made their reputation, but want others to ignore that part. I have zero regrets.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 08:28:36 PM
But notice he finally made the changes we suggested. He can throw insults all he wants, but he knows we were right. That's why he made the changes. It just makes him spitting mad if someone suggests he is not the God-given Genius he likes to think he is.
After all, he has been in the "Biz" forever and is very respected. Top of his field. An important man. He works with very famous people every day and blah blah blah.
lol
You dind't like your name in the new post? Well you should have thought about that before intentionally destroying this one.....was just giving you credit for why I was forced to start another thread. Make a reputation and you will wear it.
Title: Re: Aces High 3 - "Beating the War Drums" (2023)
Post by: CptTrips on May 24, 2023, 01:26:55 AM