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Title: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 21, 2023, 11:34:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBSZRt4-mE

Since my thread was hijacked by 2 people on their 3rd round who don't even play the game,....I had to start a new thread.

I was going to do a better job but I'm done. thank CptTrips.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: CptTrips on May 22, 2023, 12:21:03 AM
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Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 12:40:02 AM
Lol this guy spent 15 hrs stalking me. Pretty sad
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Dadtallica on May 22, 2023, 08:34:33 AM
This is the best yet but there is still way too much time before we get to any action. Instead of just introducing 20 planes, show a few like you have and then show a quick 1-2 seconds of those planes being blown up or shooting something. Then back to the peaceful flying and then boom back again. Maybe even flash in one of your text cards here and there. !TWO WEEKS FREE NO CC! Even rhymes.

I’m going to stick by my time guns. 10 minutes is an infomercial not a commercial. But I’m not making them you are. They pretty nice no matter what we all think.

Psst… also was in the content production biz for a good while and nobody else in it really cared  :aok

These are the opinions of Dadtallica and may not represent anything else… anywhere.



Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 22, 2023, 08:42:00 AM
Trips there is no sense to start crap here... yall already been going at it on the Films and screen shot threads. Just leave it there..

It's obvious he did listen to criticisms and made a lot of edits like taking out the engine startup scene.

I thought this version was entertaining and glad it was shorter and too the point. Lots of different clips and action of all sorts for both axis and allied planes so I thought it was pretty cool all around, the music definitely adds that intensity of the game.

 :aok
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: CptTrips on May 22, 2023, 08:46:13 AM
Trips there is no sense to start crap here... yall already been going at it on the Films and screen shot threads. Just leave it there..

It's obvious he did listen to criticisms and made a lot of edits like taking out the engine startup scene.

I thought this version was entertaining and glad it was shorter and too the point. Lots of different clips and action of all sorts for both axis and allied planes so I thought it was pretty cool all around, the music definitely adds that intensity of the game.

 :aok


Then he shouldn't have invoked my name in the first post of this thread.
 :aok


If he wants to leave it in the other thread, he should leave it in the other thread.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: oboe on May 22, 2023, 08:47:36 AM
Thank you for making this, Animal, I enjoyed watching.  Exciting music, plenty of external shots - reminds me of some of the ones Niro and LePape made back in the day?   Agree with Dad its your best version yet.

I especially thought the large B-24 formations were impressive, and this is something that sets Aces High apart from DCS and IL-2 Great Battles - being able to fly a heavy bomber into battle.   I really like the shots with views out of the cockpit, looking at the other planes in formation, and external views of wingmen flying together.  To me it shows AH players are teams working together -  not just flying around everyman for himself.   Good too, that it combines soundtrack music WITH engine sounds. 



I hope you keep making films.  And if you need some other pilots' help as extras in filming, I'd be happy to help out.  I always thought there should be a dedicated film group in Aces High - seems like they have always been mostly single-player efforts.

Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Spikes on May 22, 2023, 08:50:28 AM
I’m going to stick by my time guns. 10 minutes is an infomercial not a commercial. But I’m not making them you are. They pretty nice no matter what we all think.
For what it is worth, I don't think Animl ever said it was supposed to be a commercial. The opposite really - a short movie/film/cimematic.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: popeye on May 22, 2023, 11:27:39 AM
Cool! 

Thanks for your efforts.    :salute
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 11:27:59 AM
For what it is worth, I don't think Animl ever said it was supposed to be a commercial. The opposite really - a short movie/film/cimematic.

We have a winner! Thank you!
I will never say this is the best video in existence. In life there is always greater and lessor, it's ok to be humble.

It was NEVER EVER designed to be a flash commercial of all kill shots. Its done to show off the graphics, terrain, and most of all the clarity of our skins. Give them time to see them. that's what those slow scenes are for. Stalling for the big faster shots is the art of the biz. Never give them what they want when they want it, never make it predictable.

The one track train of nothing but kill shots has long gone and a worn out concept. Those vids do not even get views anymore. I have been watching >30< minute movies of other sims and they are getting between 600k and 1.4M views in less then a year. Years ago on YT shorter videos were the thing because of limitations. Today (I've researched this) longer videos ARE the thing. Its time to grow out of the box and old concepts. As matter of fact, the only dip in the movie views IS THE INSTANT KILLS, read that again. I refused to remove it because I think it ramps up the pace,.. all movies, concerts, songs, plays,... should have a finale, a build up.

I am not going to retouch this video, nor cut it down. Those that just want a 5 minute commercial video I'm not doing those, they can do those.

Thanks again for "getting it".  And thanks for allowing me to use your shots without hassle. <S>

Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 11:52:58 AM

I hope you keep making films.  And if you need some other pilots' help as extras in filming, I'd be happy to help out.  I always thought there should be a dedicated film group in Aces High - seems like they have always been mostly single-player efforts.

Thanks
>IF< someone can keep the ankle biters away from me (this is why we have barricades around us when we mix concerts, I would have had security not back them off, but out of the building in 2 minutes). Go ahead mess with us while we mix, it will be a new experience and not a happy memory, it's made unpleasant for a reason. I have been talking to Brooke about doing an 8-10 camera/record filming of the next scenario. It would require some help. That's the only details I'll give out.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Dadtallica on May 22, 2023, 12:00:52 PM
For what it is worth, I don't think Animl ever said it was supposed to be a commercial. The opposite really - a short movie/film/cimematic.

Long ago he said he was doing this to attract new people which both of those things do. A shorter commercial for the you tube crowd where they are posted. It’s just a matter of opinion I suppose… I’ve been supportive all the way if anyone cares to read back. I just found it odd the way he responded to the critique he asked for.

I’ll keep sending him clips either way and hope he keeps making them.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: CptTrips on May 22, 2023, 12:16:24 PM
Long ago he said he was doing this to attract new people which both of those things do. A shorter commercial for the you tube crowd where they are posted. It’s just a matter of opinion I suppose… I’ve been supportive all the way if anyone cares to read back. I just found it odd the way he responded to the critique he asked for.

I’ll keep sending him clips either way and hope he keeps making them.

Because when he asks for feedback, he doesn't really want feedback.  He wants you to kneel and kiss his ring and tell him how brilliant he is. 

He's big in the "biz" after-all.  A very important individual. 
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 12:56:39 PM
Long ago he said he was doing this to attract new people which both of those things do. A shorter commercial for the you tube crowd where they are posted. It’s just a matter of opinion I suppose… I’ve been supportive all the way if anyone cares to read back. I just found it odd the way he responded to the critique he asked for.

I’ll keep sending him clips either way and hope he keeps making them.

No offense intended, but I don't think I ever worded it that way. I started out with a 7-8 minute limit, but found it just wasn't enough time to show what I wanted to. I ended up with 18 min, and have been sawing it down for 2 weeks now to find that honey spot. I don't know if I hit it, that's up to the beholder.

Imagine mixing a concert for 5k-30k people. We all hear differently, that's a fact (females hear better then males, they hear what you say), we all might want to hear the mix differently. The goal is to not make it great for a few, but if we end up making it pleasant for all, we're happy with our mix. The best sound I ever heard in all my years, was a show I worked, but did not mix,..that probably was great for everyone was David Gilmour from Pink Floyd. The mix and sound is just stunning, The FOH guy was outstanding. But it's not easy to please all, that's why some of us get the big bucks..The second you lose that niche, you're done. Its that abrupt. You'll be working at Home Depot next week.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Dadtallica on May 22, 2023, 01:14:22 PM
Off topic a bit but I went to a Metallica stadium show last summer and it was the best sounding outdoor concert I’ve ever heard. (Highland Stadium/Bills) It was so crisp and clean and you could hear and feel each instrument. Plus coupled with the lights and pyros it just worked. They have some pro shot clips on their you tube page.

Was my sixth Metallica show but I’ve been to 100s of concerts. I worked for Budweiser in the 90’s while in college and my job was to go to concerts/bars and buy people beer so they would buy more Budweiser. Spent more than I ever made lol.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 02:04:29 PM
Off topic a bit but I went to a Metallica stadium show last summer and it was the best sounding outdoor concert I’ve ever heard. (Highland Stadium/Bills) It was so crisp and clean and you could hear and feel each instrument. Plus coupled with the lights and pyros it just worked. They have some pro shot clips on their you tube page.

Was my sixth Metallica show but I’ve been to 100s of concerts. I worked for Budweiser in the 90’s while in college and my job was to go to concerts/bars and buy people beer so they would buy more Budweiser. Spent more than I ever made lol.

I've known that crew for decades, even though it changes up a little each tour, depending on who is available at the time. They were using DB Sound back in the day.  We also handled Guns-n-Rose, ACDC, Kiss, The Stones, and a lot of other top billing artist. They are defuncted now. I can find out which gear their using, could be Clair Bros. I'm friends with almost all those crews.

Nobody owns their gear, it's all leased from companies I may be working for.. The only thing the band owns is their instruments.

The speaker cabinets have seriously made a transition to digital and greatness since the 90s. Every speaker is networked and we  know all we need to know what the cabinets are doing while it's in the air and running. L-Acustics are rated top of the line right now. In the day during the Animals tour Pink Floyd brought out a system called Flaslight,.... stunning sounding system for outside stadiums.

Outdoors is much easier then indoors as we don't have any wall and ceiling restrictions for bouncing sound, we just uncork the bottle and let it rip outside.

Lots of war stories from those days. Now I do corporate/industrial, occasional movie or TV show,.. the're more money in that, because no one who does concerts wants to do that stuff,... so they choke us with money benefits.to drag us over. I still do concerts, just not as much anymore,.. and I'm ok with that. I was at my peak when those concerts were at their peak and just brilliant talent. Not fond of new music to be mixing.....it's just a flat line mix.

The last show I paid to see as audience was 1980, Robin Trower, $6. 2 years later I was mixing him. My very first show was 81, Rick Darringers w/ Gary Moore (from Thin Lizzy) as second gtr... was scare out of my pants. lol all went well, and that launched me into decades of the same.

As one can tell, after dealing with artist egos and audiences and too many people around us way too much,.. we tend to become a bit jaded and callus. We don't mean to be,.. it just ends up going with the territory when you've done it too long. <shrug>
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Dadtallica on May 22, 2023, 02:14:50 PM
I read somewhere that the stadium upgraded their sound system in some way prior to that show from John Mayer’s company. Apparently Metallica was the first ones to use it.

I was all over the NE during that time so we probably were at the same shows. Had a guy who was working for me last year that was on the stage building crews for that time period, showed me pics from all those bands that were pretty cool. The Monster of Rock days!  :rock
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 02:23:29 PM
Thank you for making this, Animal, I enjoyed watching.  Exciting music, plenty of external shots - reminds me of some of the ones Niro and LePape made back in the day?   Agree with Dad its your best version yet.

I especially thought the large B-24 formations were impressive, and this is something that sets Aces High apart from DCS and IL-2 Great Battles - being able to fly a heavy bomber into battle.   I really like the shots with views out of the cockpit, looking at the other planes in formation, and external views of wingmen flying together.  To me it shows AH players are teams working together -  not just flying around everyman for himself.   Good too, that it combines soundtrack music WITH engine sounds. 



I hope you keep making films.  And if you need some other pilots' help as extras in filming, I'd be happy to help out.  I always thought there should be a dedicated film group in Aces High - seems like they have always been mostly single-player efforts.

I polished up the music a bit, that's not how the original files sounded. I widened the stereo image with an exciter, a scratch of reverb, and returned some dynamics to it. What you may notice,.. since L and R are wider,.. you'll occasionally hear the plane sound pile right down the middle, which opens it up to hear it without turning it up.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Lazerr on May 22, 2023, 02:38:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBSZRt4-mE

Since my thread was hijacked by 2 people on their 3rd round who don't even play the game,....I had to start a new thread.

I was going to do a better job but I'm done. thank CptTrips.
nice video...  if you ignore people like that they usually go away.

Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 04:23:42 PM
I read somewhere that the stadium upgraded their sound system in some way prior to that show from John Mayer’s company. Apparently Metallica was the first ones to use it.

I was all over the NE during that time so we probably were at the same shows. Had a guy who was working for me last year that was on the stage building crews for that time period, showed me pics from all those bands that were pretty cool. The Monster of Rock days!  :rock

My guess, Metalica used the house system as reinforcement, combined with their own, could be wrong, just guessing,... usually the way it works, as long as the house system is up to par.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 04:25:02 PM
nice video...  if you ignore people like that they usually go away.

Ya I know,... I had it calmed down a little,.. and then the jet boosters kicked in,... eventually I got there, should have gotten there faster. My bad
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Dadtallica on May 22, 2023, 05:58:53 PM
My guess, Metalica used the house system as reinforcement, combined with their own, could be wrong, just guessing,... usually the way it works, as long as the house system is up to par.

Went back to see if I could find what I was talking about. They partner with Meyer sound, 40 years now, not John Mayer and It’s highmark stadium I spelled it wrong. Sounded pretty dope anyway! 

Obviously I’m a fan!   :grin:

https://youtu.be/8PnQw9R_eKY (https://youtu.be/8PnQw9R_eKY)
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Vraciu on May 22, 2023, 06:03:18 PM
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Lol this guy spent 15 hrs stalking me. Pretty sad

Two of the biggest trolls in the game fighting with each other.

#PRICELESS
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Vraciu on May 22, 2023, 06:06:22 PM
Still the gold standard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwjr6-f0cYA


("Come With Me" from IL-2.)
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Kermit de frog on May 22, 2023, 06:38:25 PM
Film pulled me in a few times.  Was cool to see a film like this.  Really liked how many aspects (audio, editing, storytelling) improved throughout the releases.  Looking forward to watching your next one.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: nopoop on May 22, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
Still the gold standard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwjr6-f0cYA


("Come With Me" from IL-2.)

Badass !!!
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: JimmyD3 on May 22, 2023, 07:07:11 PM
I like it!!! Well done sir.  :salute
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 07:48:06 PM
Went back to see if I could find what I was talking about. They partner with Meyer sound, 40 years now, not John Mayer and It’s highmark stadium I spelled it wrong. Sounded pretty dope anyway! 

Obviously I’m a fan!   :grin:

https://youtu.be/8PnQw9R_eKY (https://youtu.be/8PnQw9R_eKY)

Hmm.. I know some of the crew from the 90s , thought it was DB,, the rest I know is correct,.. at one point or another.... but,... Meyer has great well known systems. I've used their gear a lot over the years  I think they are better now then DB, a cleaner sound, very heavy cabinets, I always called them concrete boxes lol. might as well be.
Maryland Sound does a lot too. They do a lot of the DC celebrations. All great stuff  Meye is top shelf.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 07:50:12 PM
Two of the biggest trolls in the game fighting with each other.

#PRICELESS

Don't need it

Call me a lot of things, I'll even except ahole,  I'm no troll, like some I watch. Your reply is a troll.  Bathroom mirror please. And I just bit your well known shinny hook. Pretty sure I've watched you froth at the mouth for a great period of time. So,.. then there's that. projection is a nice tool :)
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 07:57:32 PM
Still the gold standard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwjr6-f0cYA


("Come With Me" from IL-2.)

It is cool. But I found that a lot of their videos as very staged productions. They do have the damage model going on. Their AC look like plastic. Burnt out on 1 single water explosions tho, that water hangs in the air way too long. Love their damage model tho.. A little blurry,....2+k views in 13 yrs is not a great count. According to charts I saw their numbers have been dropping too.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 08:05:00 PM
Film pulled me in a few times.  Was cool to see a film like this.  Really liked how many aspects (audio, editing, storytelling) improved throughout the releases.  Looking forward to watching your next one.

I have some great shots I could not use, maybe better. i tried to get one 3 minute fight to 1 min..... kinda destroyed it. If I get bored I might do a dogfight vid. Looking more towards scenarios next time. But i should use those shots up tho.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 22, 2023, 08:11:33 PM
where are we a now,.. 28 hrs? Must be energizer.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 22, 2023, 08:37:31 PM
Still the gold standard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwjr6-f0cYA


("Come With Me" from IL-2.)

In the words of Randy Jackson "it's just gonna be an aight for me dawg."

The coolest part was coming into zero cockpit in the beginning, but I was getting dizzy with all those camera directions changing every second.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Oldman731 on May 22, 2023, 09:21:00 PM
Still the gold standard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwjr6-f0cYA


("Come With Me" from IL-2.)


Yeah.  They had as many as four planes in some of the cuts.  Good illustration of the difference between IL2 and AH.

- oldman
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Trev95 on May 22, 2023, 09:24:54 PM
Excellent video sir!  I do hope you change your mind and release some more in the future. <S>FBTrev95
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Vraciu on May 22, 2023, 09:52:29 PM

Yeah.  They had as many as four planes in some of the cuts.  Good illustration of the difference between IL2 and AH.

- oldman

They were creating a video, not furballing in an MA.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 02:37:08 AM
They were creating a video, not furballing in an MA.

Its really hard to capture a real furball even in wide view, it moves too fast out of view, and in a wide shot it just looks like dots moving around. Not impossible to get some of these shots with a fixed cam. But it will be short.  I tried. Unless you catch a 3 on one shot. I didn’t want anything staged. I got 3-4 in a shot, but not all in view at the same time. Scene didn’t fit. The films I had they were not that tightly grouped.  I may have had better luck with VR. But panning with viewer can look amateur But staging it would work.

Looks like it was staged promo..

Another point. IL-2 planes move through space, but IMO, they appear to be actually flying in air. The movement if AH like oks more realistic. Great damage model though.  We need that update.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 03:00:45 AM
Excellent video sir!  I do hope you change your mind and release some more in the future. <S>FBTrev95

I’ll prolly need to create a private group on the boards. We have a few  haters who sole purpose to disrupt,
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: oboe on May 23, 2023, 07:50:42 AM
Its really hard to capture a real furball even in wide view, it moves too fast out of view, and in a wide shot it just looks like dots moving around. Not impossible to get some of these shots with a fixed cam. But it will be short.  I tried. Unless you catch a 3 on one shot. I didn’t want anything staged. I got 3-4 in a shot, but not all in view at the same time. Scene didn’t fit. The films I had they were not that tightly grouped.  I may have had better luck with VR. But panning with viewer can look amateur But staging it would work.

Looks like it was staged promo..

Another point. IL-2 planes move through space, but IMO, they appear to be actually flying in air. The movement if AH like oks more realistic. Great damage model though.  We need that update.

Could you clarify this statement - I can't follow what you mean, and I am interested in the differences between IL-2 and AH aircraft movement  (as represented in films).   Also, the video Vraciu linked was from IL-2 1946 I believe; I think IL-2 Great Battles is ETO and Eastern Front aircraft only, but the aircraft have a much higher polygon count, and Great Battles may also handle bare shiny metal reflectivity differently from 1946. 
 


Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 08:50:11 AM
Could you clarify this statement - I can't follow what you mean, and I am interested in the differences between IL-2 and AH aircraft movement  (as represented in films).   Also, the video Vraciu linked was from IL-2 1946 I believe; I think IL-2 Great Battles is ETO and Eastern Front aircraft only, but the aircraft have a much higher polygon count, and Great Battles may also handle bare shiny metal reflectivity differently from 1946.

Something got porked there. I can’t follow what I mean. On ph at 3a
I’m just relying on video, I don’t play it.
IL-2 planes seem to move differently then AH planes. I’m not convinced they are flying through air. Where as AH planes do, to me. Can’t really pick it out why, its very subtle. Could be the difference of FM>?
 
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 10:22:28 AM
Just a clarification for derogatory replies.
Nope, out of 2M in my biz, anyone who thinks they are very important, or better than snyone else is a fool. There is always lessor and greater. Its an eternal learning pricess to your last day. Anyone who think they know it all stop learning, because they know it all. Their milage will vary. A know it all is likely to mislead who ever they teach. I try to bring some back down to earth so their skills stand above their arrogance. Its ok to be humble. You’ll keep learning new tricks.

I don’t fit the common industry mold. I’m more like Opie from Mayberry who accidentally fell into an odd job, when in the 80s recession it was just a way to make money.

Many did a show and went to party. I did a show and went fishing.

I was just hoping enough rubbed off on me to creat a decent fresh looking video. This is my first vid ever.

Even if someone saw me as top shelf, i never thought I was. I’m not the best at  anything.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Vraciu on May 23, 2023, 12:13:56 PM
Could you clarify this statement - I can't follow what you mean, and I am interested in the differences between IL-2 and AH aircraft movement  (as represented in films).   Also, the video Vraciu linked was from IL-2 1946 I believe; I think IL-2 Great Battles is ETO and Eastern Front aircraft only, but the aircraft have a much higher polygon count, and Great Battles may also handle bare shiny metal reflectivity differently from 1946.

When this came out I think we were still in AH2.   IL-2 had progressed a lot since then.

One reason that video is so good is it tells a story.   You can see a narrative within it.   The physics look great to me.   Just look at that Zeke honking around after splashing an SBD.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Prayer on May 23, 2023, 03:12:03 PM
Just have to find places to place the link to get eyes… Facebook, other game forums, Reddit YouTube comment sections…you get the idea. Find places with like minded folks. I think many people interested in this style of play don’t even know this game exists.

I’m not even going to critique the film. I just really appreciate the time and effort that Animl took to try and get a step forward. With the numbers dwindling anything is better than nothing. Big <S>
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: JimmyD3 on May 23, 2023, 03:44:23 PM
Just have to find places to place the link to get eyes… Facebook, other game forums, Reddit YouTube comment sections…you get the idea. Find places with like minded folks. I think many people interested in this style of play don’t even know this game exists.

I’m not even going to critique the film. I just really appreciate the time and effort that Animl took to try and get a step forward. With the numbers dwindling anything is better than nothing. Big <S>

What he said....... :rock
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
When this came out I think we were still in AH2.   IL-2 had progressed a lot since then.

One reason that video is so good is it tells a story.   You can see a narrative within it.   The physics look great to me.   Just look at that Zeke honking around after splashing an SBD.

True enough. I think a story slow keep attention for longer videos.
I think the fact there are more sims then the past, and they are all similar in a visual stance, it divided the genre players. IL does look a little plasticy to me. The fireworks can be a draw. theatrical explosions go a long way in eye candy.

I've read around and it seems AH is on top shelf for realistic FM in some pages comparisons charts. who knows <shrug> And the others tend to have lack of fight issues. AH may have the biggest melee arena.
I'm totally not into any staged events, nor buying of individual AC.

I figure a lot more left before AH3 came out and may be unaware of the changes.  A new damage model would go a long way IMO.

Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 23, 2023, 04:08:44 PM
Just have to find places to place the link to get eyes… Facebook, other game forums, Reddit YouTube comment sections…you get the idea. Find places with like minded folks. I think many people interested in this style of play don’t even know this game exists.

I’m not even going to critique the film. I just really appreciate the time and effort that Animl took to try and get a step forward. With the numbers dwindling anything is better than nothing. Big <S>

MEH!!, damn thing needs a tweak and re-uploaded. first 2 seconds of the opening shot pixelates. After that share it anywhere ya want.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 24, 2023, 08:56:42 AM

1) To me it shows AH players are teams working together -  not just flying around everyman for himself. 

2) I always thought there should be a dedicated film group in Aces High - seems like they have always been mostly single-player efforts.

1) While this video was more of showing the graphics and different areas of the game. There should be a video emphasizing the difference in how the game/arena is played, compared to others. I think the difference is what makes AH more fun for me, despite graphic differences.

2) I've hinted around about this. If I achieved anything from this video, despite whatever players it COULD draw, it hopefully inspires exactly what you just stated, and the style. Longer videos are more popular these days.

I'm not sure this video thing will move the needle at all, time will tell. I'm of the NothingVenturedNothingGained tribe. But from some of the ads out there, they are not at competition level, or so old they just don't draw anymore.

Off subject: One of the bigger complaints I read about newer player who left, after graphics,.... what happens on ch 200 was a turn-off. And while competitive and even SOME taunting is ok,.. I have to say,... in my old days as AW staff and arena moderator,.. some of these people would get a vacation. That sex talk and politics has to go. It's disgusting, certainly and obviously a negative impact on the game a player base. It won't matter to draw in new players, if they get chased away with that nonsense. We get some that melt down for over an hour on 200. If some people get burnt butt because they can't act like that on 200 and leave, we are better off. For every one of those who leave, we may retain 5 more players.

The art of biz is not only how many new people are drawn in, but how many are retained. The return customer.
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Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Shuffler on May 24, 2023, 04:15:28 PM
Where was John Wayne and John Carroll?

Well done. Looks great!!
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: mERv on May 24, 2023, 07:12:34 PM
That is a really good video. 10/10 One that will surely stand the test of time.

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Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 25, 2023, 08:46:22 PM
So there’s an updated video on my YT page. No real noticeable changes. Just front & backend tweaks. I’m not enchanted with making another thread , but here’s a lin to share anywhere. Nothing will change after this post.

New  and last update link to share anywhere
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=izyc-YJSqDg

Thanks for the support and compliments. I’m working up a new project.  Next video will prolly be a scenario, or FSO. I may do an ACM/dogfight vid with whats on the editing floor, good stuff.

Other then that, catch is in the skies.
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Dichotomy on May 27, 2023, 11:56:55 AM
I just watched it and nice job BUT if you want to attract new members to the game you're going to have to cut it down substantially.  Most people have the attention span of hyperactive gnats on meth.  I'd say 2 to 3 minutes max is what you should shoot for.  More action of blowing stuff up and shooting planes down is what people want to see initially.  You want to pique their curiosity not show them the 'boring' parts of the game (and let's face it... once you've got the basics down climbing a BUFF out, getting it to alt, setting your autopilot, and heading for the target is BORING).  But that's just the OPINION of somebody who was a somewhat famous club DJ and used that 'fame' to land a job in promotional marketing at clubs for Marlboro so what do I know. 

BUT, more opinion, on your YT channel make a short and dirty vid that shows the above (action) then link the longer 10 min version if you really capture someones attention.  Again just an opinion no criticism here. 
Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: FLS on May 27, 2023, 01:01:37 PM
When I made videos it never bothered me that they weren't exactly what other people wanted to see. I made them to be what they are.



Title: Re: Final Video
Post by: Animl-AW on May 27, 2023, 03:38:45 PM
When I made videos it never bothered me that they weren't exactly what other people wanted to see. I made them to be what they are.

I’m not doing anymore changes to it.
I’d rather make new/different videos.

Those short vids of flash kills is a more then worn out concept. The longer vids tend to have the most views in current times.i have other plans for vids. I do my best to not do what hss already been done, concepts  become redundant IMO. Others can do those. <shrug>