General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: molybdenum on July 04, 2023, 07:04:27 PM
Title: never used to complain about this...
Post by: molybdenum on July 04, 2023, 07:04:27 PM
But, HQ.
One player with multiple accounts and insane gunnery decides to take city down, and then HQ. Over and over. So a team that has less than 50% of its own bases has to defend itself on both fronts with high alt invisible bad guys salivating and waiting.
That is NOT what will keep this game interesting.
Opinions?
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 04, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
The multiple accounts thing is a bit of a red-herring isn't it? Unless you are saying he runs them on opposing teams? If they are both running on the same team, I don't see any difference than if his kid was on the computer next to him in his office. I don't see how he could be allowed to run them on different team simultaneously.
Surely HT know he has multiple accounts and is OK with it. HE has never hidden the fact on these boards.
But, I've never seen a bomber be able to defend from two different directions simultaneously. Go get him as a team. Surly two coordinating experienced guns can take him down working together.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: molybdenum on July 04, 2023, 07:41:25 PM
The multiple accounts thing is a bit of a red-herring isn't it? Unless you are saying he runs them on opposing teams? If they are both running on the same team, I don't see any difference than if his kid was on the computer next to him in his office. I don't see how he could be allowed to run them on different team simultaneously.
Surely HT know he has multiple accounts and is OK with it. HE has never hidden the fact on these boards.
But, I've never seen a bomber be able to defend from two different directions simultaneously. Go get him as a team. Surly two coordinating experienced guns can take him down working together.
No, he's always on the same team. I'm not implying spying or anything of that ilk.
Going to abandon this thread in support of the previous HQ one because it predates this and has many posts aligned with what I believe. Read those. But bottom line is just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do something. Why hurt community for personal gratification? It's just the 25k Tempest pilot pouncing on easy prey for self vs team in a different setting.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 04, 2023, 07:55:53 PM
No, he's always on the same team. I'm not implying spying or anything of that ilk.
Going to abandon this thread in support of the previous HQ one because it predates this and has many posts aligned with what I believe. Read those. But bottom line is just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do something. Why hurt community for personal gratification? It's just the 25k Tempest pilot pouncing on easy prey for self vs team in a different setting.
I'm just trying to write these down....
1. No bombing of anything the enemy would get mad at losing. 2. No flying perk planes. 3. Fugi would like to say they shouldn't be allowed in GV because it hurts the game for them to be on the ground and not in there air. 4. No taking over CV when you have higher rank. 5. No vulching 6. No picking 7. Nothing other than 1v1 engagements. When is doubt ask, "Mother may I?" 8. One account per houshold because HTC is making too much money already. 9. No HO. A HO is usually define as anything forward of their 3-9 line.
... Cum'on. Lets get it to 10 and send it in to Letterman.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Devil 505 on July 04, 2023, 08:33:43 PM
Moly, you fly off the map to avoid enemies.
This is how you look complaining about what other players do. (https://i.postimg.cc/fysmCQCv/Blowing-hard.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 04, 2023, 08:58:17 PM
But, I've never seen a bomber be able to defend from two different directions simultaneously. Go get him as a team. Surly two coordinating experienced guns can take him down working together.
it's a sight to behold. Being ambidextrous and all :banana:
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: The Fugitive on July 04, 2023, 09:34:41 PM
Eventually Hitech will address Fin3times antics......I hope. Again just because a person CAN do a thing, they have to decide if they SHOULD do a thing. Evidently Fin3time believes he he can AND should screw everyone else. Im not spending $15 a month guarding HQ against some AzzClown who can bring a half dozen buffs to target on his own.
As for CptTrips his points are total irrelevant as he no longer plays the game and is only here to cause trouble.
Anything that causes players to leave the game should be suspect. I heard that a player hunting down another player only to grief them was cause for expulsion. Maybe its time to push out a player who thinks he controls ALL game play as well.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 04, 2023, 09:36:14 PM
Anything that causes players to leave the game should be suspect. I heard that a player hunting down another player only to grief them was cause for expulsion. Maybe its time to push out a player who thinks he controls ALL game play as well.
Wait. What? You want to ban a player for exercising the code Hitech designed and wrote?
You are really that delusional to think Hitech designed and wrote that code and then would ban anyone who uses it?
You think that makes logical sense?
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Arlo on July 04, 2023, 09:42:47 PM
... who can bring a half dozen buffs to target on his own.
Target rich environment. Oh no! :cool:
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Shane on July 04, 2023, 09:52:21 PM
Seems a little on the whiny side since while FT, et al were rampaging on the bish strats, (riftval map, bish strats located sw) bish chose not to defend them at all, instead preferring to furball with rooks (which continued despite the strats being wasted.)
Bish had two uncapturable bases within a sector to the strats at 3k. FT, et all were going in between 3k and 6k staying out of the strat puffy acks.
Numbers were fairly even across the board, but the bish were being subject to a beatdown by knits/rooks to that 40% bases left. Knits have been in this bucket several times over the past few months (but without the salt of leveled strats.)
Again, bish had equitable numbers during all this and chose to furball - their dollar, unlike in mornings when bish outnumber the other two combined and typically go all-in vs one side for overwhelming hordevantage.
As you sow, so shall you reap. Fixing mornings may fix evenings if players only regulated themselves, lollolol, right?
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 04, 2023, 09:52:53 PM
In reality Fugi wants bombers removed from the game. There is nothing they can hit that he won't eventually call "ruining his fun."
He has said many times in the past about wanting to somehow force GV players out of GV because this is a FLIGHT sim!
I bet Fugi would prefer both bombers and GV be removed. I bet that would do wonders for the game.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Dadtallica on July 04, 2023, 10:43:52 PM
I think it’s fair to point out that his multiple personalities cancel out is two accounts.
He posted a video of it in a cafe. Muscle memory is something to remember. He actually helped me realize how to do some better stuff in my buff guns. He’s not invincible, he’s just tediously difficult.
Seems to me it’s the difficulty that’s the problem for most people. :joystick:
He’s also a bit kooky. I wish he was cheating so I had an excuse. If it thought he was a cheater I wouldn’t engage him and yet I do. Best method is to find one or two wingmen to help all of you hit him at once .
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 04, 2023, 11:23:36 PM
I think it’s fair to point out that his multiple personalities cancel out is two accounts.
He posted a video of it in a cafe. Muscle memory is something to remember. He actually helped me realize how to do some better stuff in my buff guns. He’s not invincible, he’s just tediously difficult.
Seems to me it’s the difficulty that’s the problem for most people. :joystick:
He’s also a bit kooky. I wish he was cheating so I had an excuse. If it thought he was a cheater I wouldn’t engage him and yet I do. Best method is to find one or two wingmen to help all of you hit him at once .
+1
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: 1stpar3 on July 05, 2023, 04:00:17 AM
I think it’s fair to point out that his multiple personalities cancel out is two accounts.
He posted a video of it in a cafe. Muscle memory is something to remember. He actually helped me realize how to do some better stuff in my buff guns. He’s not invincible, he’s just tediously difficult.
Seems to me it’s the difficulty that’s the problem for most people. :joystick:
He’s also a bit kooky. I wish he was cheating so I had an excuse. If it thought he was a cheater I wouldn’t engage him and yet I do. Best method is to find one or two wingmen to help all of you hit him at once .
+1 If I know it is him...I am screaming "Its a trap!!!!!" Folk still saddle up on his six :bhead He isnt invincible, he is just THAT GOOD! I kill him pretty often....
Now FineTime? You know I love ya? YES..I might get one of yas....and once i know who ye be, I run away! Don't you dare bring up that recent, "Wish a Nik1 would incident"! :bhead My point was...you can be got. Especially if you choose to attack the formation you arent focussed on. I miss seeing TUNES1,2,3,4 and 5...........Talk about a BEAST!
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: oTRALFZo on July 05, 2023, 04:32:11 AM
Seems a little on the whiny side since while FT, et al were rampaging on the bish strats, (riftval map, bish strats located sw) bish chose not to defend them at all, instead preferring to furball with rooks (which continued despite the strats being wasted.)
Bish had two uncapturable bases within a sector to the strats at 3k. FT, et all were going in between 3k and 6k staying out of the strat puffy acks.
Numbers were fairly even across the board, but the bish were being subject to a beatdown by knits/rooks to that 40% bases left. Knits have been in this bucket several times over the past few months (but without the salt of leveled strats.)
Again, bish had equitable numbers during all this and chose to furball - their dollar, unlike in mornings when bish outnumber the other two combined and typically go all-in vs one side for overwhelming hordevantage.
As you sow, so shall you reap. Fixing mornings may fix evenings if players only regulated themselves, lollolol, right?
Totally agree. Sometimes your the butt kicker or sometimes getting your butt handed to you. You have to take both in stride. It happens to all 3 sides at any given point. This game is set up "enough' to give us all a choice on how to play the game and some just cant accept loosing.
Eventually Hitech will address Fin3times antics......I hope. Again just because a person CAN do a thing, they have to decide if they SHOULD do a thing. Evidently Fin3time believes he he can AND should screw everyone else. Im not spending $15 a month guarding HQ against some AzzClown who can bring a half dozen buffs to target on his own.
Seems as though your having more of a problem with his attitude rather than game play. I get it, there are plenty of smug players that I get my satisfaction by giving a good thumping rather than complaining on the boards. Besides, I have seen you through out the years complain how hoards are bad for game play and yet, you are somehow always in the middle of one. If that's your game, then by all means go for it. However your judgement is based around players being on the loosing end and spinning it off as poor gameplay when you are not the victor. I really don't see what FINETIME is doing that is out of the rulebook and the fact that he does what he does is pretty damn impressive and he is not invincible. IF what he does bugs you so much, then convince some teammates to go with you and challenge him.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: The Fugitive on July 05, 2023, 09:17:04 AM
Totally agree. Sometimes your the butt kicker or sometimes getting your butt handed to you. You have to take both in stride. It happens to all 3 sides at any given point. This game is set up "enough' to give us all a choice on how to play the game and some just cant accept loosing.
Seems as though your having more of a problem with his attitude rather than game play. I get it, there are plenty of smug players that I get my satisfaction by giving a good thumping rather than complaining on the boards. Besides, I have seen you through out the years complain how hoards are bad for game play and yet, you are somehow always in the middle of one. If that's your game, then by all means go for it. However your judgement is based around players being on the loosing end and spinning it off as poor gameplay when you are not the victor. I really don't see what FINETIME is doing that is out of the rulebook and the fact that he does what he does is pretty damn impressive and he is not invincible. IF what he does bugs you so much, then convince some teammates to go with you and challenge him.
I have never said what he is doing is against the rules, I have said that at this time of lower numbers should he be going out of his way to play the game in a way that chases players away. I just love how everyone twists everything that is posted.
I didn't get to enjoy he's latest exploits as I was enjoying time with my family instead of playing a game. When he did it Saturday I continue to play, he didn't chase me away, but I know a bunch of players did call it a night early.
All I'm saying is how many players could be chased away in a time when we should be trying to bring in players.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 05, 2023, 09:21:25 AM
I have never said what he is doing is against the rules, I have said that at this time of lower numbers should he be going out of his way to play the game in a way that chases players away. I just love how everyone twists everything that is posted.
I didn't get to enjoy he's latest exploits as I was enjoying time with my family instead of playing a game. When he did it Saturday I continue to play, he didn't chase me away, but I know a bunch of players did call it a night early.
All I'm saying is how many players could be chased away in a time when we should be trying to bring in players.
"we" have zero responsibility to entice new customers to this business.
I'm not signed up to your entitled way of thinking. I pay my AH bill, I do what I want within the confines of the rules.
I do love your outrageous comments and expectations. Here is some solid advice. Throw some dirty on this open wound and call it a day on the subject. :cheers:
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 09:32:56 AM
"we" have zero responsibility to entice new customers to this business.
I'm not signed up to your entitled way of thinking. I pay my AH bill, I do what I want within the confines of the rules.
I do love your outrageous comments and expectations. Here is some solid advice. Throw some dirty on this open wound and call it a day on the subject. :cheers:
"A kill has been recorded."
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Dadtallica on July 05, 2023, 10:12:31 AM
As for CptTrips his points are total irrelevant as he no longer plays the game and is only here to cause trouble.
Agreed. Seems to be a pattern. - positive + negative
They love and care about the game so much they refuse to play it. They don’t suffer their gamer suggestions. Never take suggestions from those who don’t play.
Flatten their HQ <shrug> maybe the real wars will begin
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 11:50:23 AM
1. No bombing of anything the enemy would get mad at losing. 2. No flying perk planes. 3. Fugi would like to say they shouldn't be allowed in GV because it hurts the game for them to be on the ground and not in there air. 4. No taking over CV when you have higher rank. 5. No vulching 6. No picking 7. Nothing other than 1v1 engagements. When is doubt ask, "Mother may I?" 8. One account per houshold because HTC is making too much money already. 9. No HO. A HO is usually define as anything forward of their 3-9 line.
... Cum'on. Lets get it to 10 and send it in to Letterman.
:rofl :aok
I have some proposals for 10, but in a name of peace will restrain to publish them...
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Animl-AW on July 05, 2023, 02:20:46 PM
That a player should be free to play the game exactly as Hitech designed and coded it without being personally attacked on the forum?
Is that a controversial position in your opinion?
LoL.
Rock on Merv. Bomb the whiny-weenies into the stone-age. When they cry, do it again. :aok
Thread about to be locked mr. Dunning kruger, thats your profession
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2023, 02:26:35 PM
I'm a big Merv fan, and love that he has such fun. His presence always generates action, which is often a scarcity these days.
I am not a fan of dropping HQ though. It ruins the game for many and should never happen.
The argument that it's by design due to coding isn't valid. Hitech, like the Founding Fathers, is not infallible. While it may have worked originally or when the population was very different, the game needs to evolve along with the players, networking and society in general.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 02:35:39 PM
The argument that it's by design due to coding isn't valid.
How is that not valid?
Are you claiming Hitech didn't design and implement the code to work like that?
If you are stating Hitech needs to RE-DESIGN and RE-IMPLEMENT that code a different way, that is something you should post in the Wishlist.
As it is now, as it stands TODAY, that is exactly how Hitech designed it. That is exactly how Hitech implemented it. Merv is playing the game exactly as Hitech intended to be allow.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2023, 02:43:26 PM
Are you claiming Hitech didn't design and implement the code to work like that?
If you are stating Hitech needs to RE-DESIGN and RE-IMPLEMENT that code a different way, that is something you should post in the Wishlist.
As it is now, as it stands TODAY, that is exactly how Hitech designed it. That is exactly how Hitech implemented it. Merv is playing the game exactly as Hitech intended to be allow.
Sure, it worked as intended when the arenas had hundreds of players and more queuing to get in.
Now it causes players to log-off which has a negative impact and therefore has stopped 'working'. Changing the programming may not be feasible, but there are other ways to prevent it from happening, including asking Merv to stop for the well-being of the game.
Just because it was coded that way decades ago, doesn't necessarily mean it's currently working today as originally intended, and that applies to many aspects of the game. :salute
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 02:58:58 PM
Sure, it worked as intended when the arenas had hundreds of players and more queuing to get in.
Now it causes players to log-off which has a negative impact and therefore has stopped 'working'. Changing the programming may not be feasible, but there are other ways to prevent it from happening, including asking Merv to stop for the well-being of the game.
Just because it was coded that way decades ago, doesn't necessarily mean it's currently working today as originally intended, and that applies to many aspects of the game. :salute
Then that is something you should take up with Hitech in a Wishlist post.
That's not Merv's problem. He is playing the game as it is currently designed to be played.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 05, 2023, 03:26:57 PM
:salute
See my new thread
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Shuffler on July 05, 2023, 03:48:20 PM
Honestly.... bombing doesn't affect me at all. All fields have hangers.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 05, 2023, 04:10:36 PM
Then that is something you should take up with Hitech in a Wishlist post.
That's not Merv's problem. He is playing the game as it is currently designed to be played.
Guy... you spend a lot of time here arguing with people that play the game. You dont??? Correct? It really doesn't matter the o club, general discussion, you are just there. Like you have an axe to grind with anyone that doesn't think the way you do.
What gives? You don't have any hobbies, interests, or work to focus on?
The way the game was coded was prior to the low numbers we see now, on top of the maps not being changed in conjunction with that.
You seem to like FineTime, most of us do. But your argument with the coding done years ago, vs what the game is now.. seems kind of weird.
I don't think anyone is after your Boi. Relax
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 04:48:49 PM
I heard that a player hunting down another player only to grief them was cause for expulsion. Maybe its time to push out a player who thinks he controls ALL game play as well.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 04:59:56 PM
He just suggested Merv out to be banned by Hitech.....for bombing strat targets.
You can't make this stupidity up.
Regardless, I really never see even a neutral positioned post on your feelings of this game, all negative. And now you think dead people are keeping the game afloat?
I'm guessing Fugitive would re word the statement you keep harassing him about, but it would only satisfy you, and probably not enough for you to shut up about it. Nobody else cares.
Your issues seem to have started here since your WW1 idea fell flat on its ass. Ever since then, anyone with a different opinion than yours is a full time argument.
I appreciate your efforts to contribute to the game previously. They are currently being washed out with your pisspoor intellectual contribution here, plus the fact you don't even play.
Get over it. There has to be a larger audience for your garbage on another board.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 05, 2023, 07:41:23 PM
I hope he does come back into the MA, find me, and we dominate together :cheers:
There is something about creating the action and moving mud that is awesome. It ain't all about taking bases. Sometimes it's the attempt that fails and the fights that lead to that which makes it worth it.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 05, 2023, 08:46:18 PM
Regardless, I really never see even a neutral positioned post on your feelings of this game, all negative. And now you think dead people are keeping the game afloat?
Blah blah blah blah blah.
I will post what I wish.
Go ahead, geniuses. Ask Hitech to ban a customer for bombing strat targets. He probably needs the laugh.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Oldman731 on July 05, 2023, 08:50:43 PM
I think it's weirder that more players aren't defending a fellow player being attacked by a self-appointed lynch mob who think players who don't play the way they want should be banned.
Next time, it might you they want to ban when you don't obey.
Even weirder is why HTC is leaving a customer to hang. Why are they letting a customer get attacked by a mob who think they should be the ones to decide how other plays enjoy their $15. Why haven't they stopped the harassment and stated MErv was in no violation of the rules and is free to play as he chooses? Is it a good look for potential customers to see a player attacked and threatened with banning for playing the game exactly as the owner designed and implemented it? And everyone standing by and letting him get attacked including the company?
Don't like his bragging? Understandable. Don't like him dropping your strat? Then shoot him down. I hate self-appointed dictators who want to try and bully players into flying the way they want. And I don't have much use for weak people who allow bullying to go on without stepping up and putting a stop to it.
HT might need to adjust settings. That's normal. I assumed he reviewed and approve the current settings. If they need to be tweaked, fine. That's how software works. But until then, whatever configuration is currently in place, any player is free to play anyway they chose within the HTC rules. If Merv wants to bomb strat 6 times a day, he is free to do so. If you don't like it, you are free to shoot him down. That is also part of the game.
Merv is not responsible for the downtimes Hitech set. And fugi and his ilk are not in-charge of telling anyone how they can play the game.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: GasTeddy on July 06, 2023, 01:28:44 PM
One thing seems to unite all public internet platform. Was it a combat/flight sim, forum, game or whatever with more than handful of participants, there is always The Elite, self-declared elite in their ivory towers. They are normally long-time users, who think they have rights to tell others what everyone has to do while looking down to noobies and less skillful ones.
They are often just fine and even helpful, as long as your dance to their music and agree in everything, but if you happen to disagree in something, have a different opinion or even worse, propose something what is outside their bubble, well...
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 06, 2023, 02:11:28 PM
I think it's weirder that more players aren't defending a fellow player being attacked by a self-appointed lynch mob who think players who don't play the way they want should be banned.
Next time, it might you they want to ban when you don't obey.
Even weirder is why HTC is leaving a customer to hang. Why are they letting a customer get attacked by a mob who think they should be the ones to decide how other plays enjoy their $15. Why haven't they stopped the harassment and stated MErv was in no violation of the rules and is free to play as he chooses? Is it a good look for potential customers to see a player attacked and threatened with banning for playing the game exactly as the owner designed and implemented it? And everyone standing by and letting him get attacked including the company?
Don't like his bragging? Understandable. Don't like him dropping your strat? Then shoot him down. I hate self-appointed dictators who want to try and bully players into flying the way they want. And I don't have much use for weak people who allow bullying to go on without stepping up and putting a stop to it.
HT might need to adjust settings. That's normal. I assumed he reviewed and approve the current settings. If they need to be tweaked, fine. That's how software works. But until then, whatever configuration is currently in place, any player is free to play anyway they chose within the HTC rules. If Merv wants to bomb strat 6 times a day, he is free to do so. If you don't like it, you are free to shoot him down. That is also part of the game.
Merv is not responsible for the downtimes Hitech set. And fugi and his ilk are not in-charge of telling anyone how they can play the game.
It's all good Capt. Trips this has been going on for close to a decade. Ht made the changes and they are here to stay. The few who have complained recently fight a losing battle. Once I get off work I'll share a few links to threads from the past about HQ. This stuff today aint nuffin. What's funny is those who complained about it then and demanded change or they would leave ended up leaving anyways....
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: knorB on July 06, 2023, 03:14:53 PM
LOL same ole song and dance.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Dadtallica on July 06, 2023, 05:56:36 PM
It's all good Capt. Trips this has been going on for close to a decade. Ht made the changes and they are here to stay. The few who have complained recently fight a losing battle. Once I get off work I'll share a few links to threads from the past about HQ. This stuff today aint nuffin. What's funny is those who complained about it then and demanded change or they would leave ended up leaving anyways....
When do you have time for work?
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 06, 2023, 11:22:15 PM
He also told me in a private chat that what I did was an actual sin towards God and man and he meant it :aok
Religious fanatics have always given me shivers...
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 24, 2023, 07:46:12 AM
It's all a part of a fanatic group of players that have fostered a toxic culture amongst the Bishops for the better part of 10 years.
I had the pleasure of transitioning over to the bishops for an evening this past weekend. For the most part it was cordial and nice to catch up with a few players I have come to respect over the years.
On the other hand there were a few players who were excessively abusive sharing actual physical threats of bodily harm and banishment from this game for being a "cheater" using double accounts and for using hack programs to shoot players down.
HiTechs silence over these allegations has fostered the idea that I have been cheating for a long time. They believe he simply doesn't care anymore. When you have enough players talking about it for long enough others start to believe this foolish idea and you end up with what we have today.
The experience and several others have left me at a crossroads with the game as a whole. This thread was started on the notion that dropping HQ kills action and desire to play the MA and yet I watched over 20 players log out due to Bishop hording leaving only 11 players logged in for almost 3 hrs during primetime on a Saturday and a good map. That trend will continue with no fix insight. A clear sign that the game is dying on the vine. Yes, the hard-core players will continue its support of the game to its dying breath but as a whole the situation is dire.
If I don't end up leaving for good, which is on the table at this point, my hate for the toxic culture within this community will certainly have found new spirit to fight these guys head on. Yet for $15 a month I find myself asking is that the kind of energy I want to keep bringing into my life? Seems the simple and safe path is to leave this game into the capable hands of those who have selfishly ran it into the ground over the last 7 years.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: oboe on July 24, 2023, 09:02:39 AM
I hope you don't leave, FineTime. I've had memorable fun over the last few months when you are on and you get a small number of people working together to capture bases.
As a rule, Hitech doesn't comment on cheating allegations so his silence shouldn't indicate anything. We should all be aware of that by now, but I suppose its easy to forget.
As far as the Bish horde, do you remember the days of the Rook High Command (or something like that, memory fails)? Some guy or group of players was able to get Rooks organized and they would terrorize the MA with massive formations and dominate the map. As far as I can recall, only the Knights have been consistent exemplars of fair play and sportsmanship all along. :devil
I do hope you can make whatever adjustments you need to make to allow you to continue to play and enjoy the game. :salute
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 24, 2023, 09:56:46 AM
As a rule, Hitech doesn't comment on cheating allegations so his silence shouldn't indicate anything.
That is one thing. Allowing a customer to be continually harassed and threatened is... something else.
All for playing the game EXACTLY the way Hitech designed to be able to be played. If Hitech didn't want players to be allowed to bomb HQ, he wouldn't have made them destroyable targets.
What is the point of a "Sandbox" sim if a pack of rabid self appointed bullies think they can tell other players what they are and are not allowed to do?
Why does Merv have to make the adjustments? Why not just put the bullies back in their place and defend the idea that customers are allowed to play anyway they want within the HTC rules?
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: oboe on July 24, 2023, 10:31:19 AM
That is one thing. Allowing a customer to be continually harassed and threatened is... something else.
All for playing the game EXACTLY the way Hitech designed to be able to be played. If Hitech didn't want players to be allowed to bomb HQ, he wouldn't have made them destroyable targets.
What is the point of a "Sandbox" sim if a pack of rabid self appointed bullies think they can tell other players what they are and are not allowed to do?
Why does Merv have to make the adjustments? Why not just put the bullies back in their place and defend the idea that customers are allowed to play anyway they want within the HTC rules?
Agreed. I hope Hitech is made aware of the bullying or harassment and takes action to end it.
My choice of words was probably poor, I just meant I hope FineTime can find his way back to loving the game. He's a competent player and fun to play alongside, and if he leaves the game will be poorer for his loss.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 24, 2023, 11:16:36 AM
It's all a part of a fanatic group of players that have fostered a toxic culture amongst the Bishops for the better part of 10 years.
I had the pleasure of transitioning over to the bishops for an evening this past weekend. For the most part it was cordial and nice to catch up with a few players I have come to respect over the years.
On the other hand there were a few players who were excessively abusive sharing actual physical threats of bodily harm and banishment from this game for being a "cheater" using double accounts and for using hack programs to shoot players down.
HiTechs silence over these allegations has fostered the idea that I have been cheating for a long time. They believe he simply doesn't care anymore. When you have enough players talking about it for long enough others start to believe this foolish idea and you end up with what we have today.
The experience and several others have left me at a crossroads with the game as a whole. This thread was started on the notion that dropping HQ kills action and desire to play the MA and yet I watched over 20 players log out due to Bishop hording leaving only 11 players logged in for almost 3 hrs during primetime on a Saturday and a good map. That trend will continue with no fix insight. A clear sign that the game is dying on the vine. Yes, the hard-core players will continue its support of the game to its dying breath but as a whole the situation is dire.
If I don't end up leaving for good, which is on the table at this point, my hate for the toxic culture within this community will certainly have found new spirit to fight these guys head on. Yet for $15 a month I find myself asking is that the kind of energy I want to keep bringing into my life? Seems the simple and safe path is to leave this game into the capable hands of those who have selfishly ran it into the ground over the last 7 years.
I would suggest mocking them, calling them a putz, and continue playing your game. They are not worthy of your respect.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Blinky on July 28, 2023, 12:06:08 PM
On the other hand there were a few players who were excessively abusive sharing actual physical threats of bodily harm and banishment from this game for being a "cheater" using double accounts and for using hack programs to shoot players down.
HiTechs silence over these allegations has fostered the idea that I have been cheating for a long time. They believe he simply doesn't care anymore. When you have enough players talking about it for long enough others start to believe this foolish idea and you end up with what we have today.
The best player I ever flew with through the years was "accu-hated" out of the game. I guess people refused to believe he was as good as he was - and was banned. Sounds like things in the MA haven't changed much.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: LCADolby on July 28, 2023, 04:28:29 PM
The best player I ever flew with through the years was "accu-hated" out of the game. I guess people refused to believe he was as good as he was - and was banned. Sounds like things in the MA haven't changed much.
That guy was banned for being a toolkit. He wasn't run off, he was banned. Not many can claim that honor.
Assuming you are talking about Skyher. I'm quite familiar with the antics that got her the boot.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Bopgun on July 28, 2023, 08:28:08 PM
He was ban for "targeted harassment" from what I remember. He would have a friend/squaddie sit on the opposing team and report the positions of a particular player so he could use his superior ability to kill said player again and again. I believe he got caught targeting "Bluemax" or something. He streamed the ordeal and I'm guessing someone showed Hitech.
Anyone who thinks Merv or Skhyer are using hacks should not be taken seriously, however the latter intentionally used his superior skill to ruin peoples experience. There may even be a video up of him doing it to ULtactus, I'm not sure I haven't looked at his Youtube in about a year or so. Skhyer wasn't liked around here aside from his cadre and thats how he wanted it, he wanted to be remembered as the scourge of this game. Personally I didn't really mind him until he started telling people to KTS and doxing his own family on that Flamewarriors sesspool(forum).
This game is full of preMadonnas, just throw them a <S> and continue on your business.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 28, 2023, 10:05:34 PM
He was ban for "targeted harassment" from what I remember. He would have a friend/squaddie sit on the opposing team and report the positions of a particular player so he could use his superior ability to kill said player.
Hahaha this happened to me several times in the past week. Not calling out names. I get mine where I can. In one particular situation I took 2 sets of lancs to shutdown vh and ords knowing I was going to get shaded or have a "teamate" share my location with a few of my more colorful bishop friends. Their radar down, met perfectly at 15k, watched as they went from friendly radar over a sector away right for me. They did not succeed in stopping me from my objective. Granted when down to my last lanc I had to snap roll stall from 12k to avoid a tempest, then dive back to the base and blind drop on the 2 odds bunkers... but I got it done in true FT fashion. Nobody beats The Wizz :old: just one example :cheers:
Years and years of sketchy play by some turned me into the beast warrior I am in this game. I remember a time when I was helpless. Now my AH enemies scream cheat/hack as they flame and flounder back in to tower over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over :bolt:
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: guncrasher on July 28, 2023, 10:18:53 PM
Hahaha this happened to me several times in the past week. Not calling out names. I get mine where I can. In one particular situation I took 2 sets of lancs to shutdown vh and ords knowing I was going to get shaded or have a "teamate" share my location with a few of my more colorful bishop friends. Their radar down, met perfectly at 15k, watched as they went from friendly radar over a sector away right for me. They did not succeed in stopping me from my objective. Granted when down to my last lanc I had to snap roll stall from 12k to avoid a tempest, then dive back to the base and blind drop on the 2 odds bunkers... but I got it done in true FT fashion. Nobody beats The Wizz :old: just one example :cheers:
Years and years of sketchy play by some turned me into the beast warrior I am in this game. I remember a time when I was helpless. Now my AH enemies scream cheat/hack as they flame and flounder back in to tower over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over :bolt:
merv on the other hand, we asked you repeatedly to stop broadcasting on you tube as you had your map open and it showed all of our bombers trying to sink a cv. while not illegal it was a crappy thing to do specially when we asked you several dozen times.
so in your case whatever flak you get it is well deserved.
semp
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Blinky on July 28, 2023, 10:24:48 PM
Well, I never said any names. But yeah, you couldn't play for 10 minutes without a hackusation in chat against Skyyr, sometimes fully blown to the forums. Call me a fan boy - but the dude was an excellent stick. Also was a stand up guy, if you were in return. I could easily see getting bored of 4-6 years of whining from the same people and wanting to shut them down. I don't deny he deserved his ban, but when 90% of the player base thinks your cheating because of idiots that go unchecked for years (just as Merv said) it's wild to see it from a neutral perspective.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Lazerr on July 28, 2023, 11:30:01 PM
Well, I never said any names. But yeah, you couldn't play for 10 minutes without a hackusation in chat against Skyyr, sometimes fully blown to the forums. Call me a fan boy - but the dude was an excellent stick. Also was a stand up guy, if you were in return. I could easily see getting bored of 4-6 years of whining from the same people and wanting to shut them down. I don't deny he deserved his ban, but when 90% of the player base thinks your cheating because of idiots that go unchecked for years (just as Merv said) it's wild to see it from a neutral perspective.
He was an ultra melon that flew like a vag, targeting guys in a furball. Ran like the judge when he got reversed.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Bopgun on July 29, 2023, 12:41:23 AM
Well, I never said any names. But yeah, you couldn't play for 10 minutes without a hackusation in chat against Skyyr, sometimes fully blown to the forums. Call me a fan boy - but the dude was an excellent stick. Also was a stand up guy, if you were in return. I could easily see getting bored of 4-6 years of whining from the same people and wanting to shut them down. I don't deny he deserved his ban, but when 90% of the player base thinks your cheating because of idiots that go unchecked for years (just as Merv said) it's wild to see it from a neutral perspective.
From the way he conducted himself on these boards and In game it seemed he reveled in the fact the he was "unbelievably skilled" to so many players(I'm sure he'd be tickled hearing that he's still talked about). I'd agree he was a good stick, better than I'd ever hope to be, however I would not agree he was a stand up guy. There was a specific incident where he inferred Latrobe should commit suicide IRL(over a dueling request/challenge). There was another instance he posted atleast one picture of his Significant Other on the Troll forum Flamewarriors(Which he later removed after he was called out on the stupidity). It is also my understanding that his ban was limited to his handle "Skyyr" and he flew under multiple pseudonyms for years after his initial ban, unless he received another later on that I'm not aware of. My final thoughts: Nearly all this happened almost 10 years ago at this point, It seems he has moved on and hopefully matured. I always liked the guys he associated with, whom always spoke highly of him.
Hahaha this happened to me several times in the past week. Not calling out names. I get mine where I can. In one particular situation I took 2 sets of lancs to shutdown vh and ords knowing I was going to get shaded or have a "teamate" share my location with a few of my more colorful bishop friends. Their radar down, met perfectly at 15k, watched as they went from friendly radar over a sector away right for me. They did not succeed in stopping me from my objective. Granted when down to my last lanc I had to snap roll stall from 12k to avoid a tempest, then dive back to the base and blind drop on the 2 odds bunkers... but I got it done in true FT fashion. Nobody beats The Wizz :old: just one example :cheers:
Years and years of sketchy play by some turned me into the beast warrior I am in this game. I remember a time when I was helpless. Now my AH enemies scream cheat/hack as they flame and flounder back in to tower over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over :bolt:
If that is the case report it with dates times and any screen shots or demos you may have, Its a breach of TOS and people who are found doing it will be ban. There is a precedent for it as mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 29, 2023, 09:50:58 AM
If that is the case report it with dates times and any screen shots or demos you may have, Its a breach of TOS and people who are found doing it will be ban. There is a precedent for it as mentioned in this thread.
No, it does not negatively impact my experience in the game. At times it can be very inconvenient but I will adapt and overcome in every tactical situation I'm put up against or I will fail repeatedly trying. Not adding to Dale's plate.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: haggerty on July 29, 2023, 10:22:56 AM
If that is the case report it with dates times and any screen shots or demos you may have, Its a breach of TOS and people who are found doing it will be ban. There is a precedent for it as mentioned in this thread.
People don't realize how predictable they are and cry shade all the time. Dar bars from certain locations and routes tell a story.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 29, 2023, 12:45:20 PM
People don't realize how predictable they are and cry shade all the time. Dar bars from certain locations and routes tell a story.
in this case over a dozen bishops are attacking a base 30 miles from there own with friendly radar up. I watched 2 fighters within the dar break off and fly directly to me intercepting 5 miles before entering the enemy dar ring which was down. I was accompanied by a "friendly" who did not attack the base or engage the fighters but kept within icon range the entire flight.
The 2 players who intercepted me met me co-alt above 15k. I have had issues like this before with these two players. The player who flew with me runs a squad designation infront of their name but is not apart of the squad according to the current CO.
I run a few hundred sorties a week if im lucky. I have run tens of thousands of sorties in my time in AH. I am not some average player with sub-par intelligence unable to decipher what you described and what I sometimes encounter. It does not deter me. I have reached such a level of skill in this game that even Haggerty thinks I cheat to some degree using a hack software that allows me to track players with my guns. Yet all anyone focuses on is the gunning. They fail to recognize the strategic genius that is my play in the MA.
It was a deliberate act meant to stop me from dropping the VH. It failed and was just enough of a pause to save the knight base from the bishop horde for an additional hour before I logged for the night.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Bopgun on July 29, 2023, 12:53:57 PM
in this case over a dozen bishops are attacking a base 30 miles from there own with friendly radar up. I watched 2 fighters within the dar break off and fly directly to me intercepting 5 miles before entering the enemy dar ring which was down. I was accompanied by a "friendly" who did not attack the base or engage the fighters but kept within icon range the entire flight.
The 2 players who intercepted me met me co-alt above 15k. I have had issues like this before with these two players. The player who flew with me runs a squad designation infront of their name but is not apart of the squad according to the current CO.
I run a few hundred sorties a week if im lucky. I have run tens of thousands of sorties in my time in AH. I am not some average player with sub-par intelligence unable to decipher what you described and what I sometimes encounter. It does not deter me. I have reached such a level of skill in this game that even Haggerty thinks I cheat to some degree using a hack software that allows me to track players with my guns. Yet all anyone focuses on is the gunning. They fail to recognize the strategic genius that is my play in the MA.
It was a deliberate act meant to stop me from dropping the VH. It failed and was just enough of a pause to save the knight base from the bishop horde for an additional hour before I logged for the night.
Was I one of these interceptors? You were in Lancs right?
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: mERv on July 29, 2023, 01:02:24 PM
Waitwaitwait... Moly is complaining because someone's using tactics he doesn't like/considers cheap to keep strats down and wants HT to fix it?
Wow, that was a good belly laugh. Thank you for that.
Wiley.
Apparently you haven't read the context?
Taking HQ can indeed be a strategic goal, but to do it over and over to a team that has less that 50% of its bases serves no purpose other than prideful chest-pounding. It causes players log off because they can't find a fight and/or don't want to get jumped. How is this defensible?
And I'm not quite sure what Finetime is saying about the God and man thing. I told him it was wrong for the reasons I mentioned above, absolutely. And he'd mentioned going to church so I asked him to ask God what He thought of it lol. FT defended his actions along the "hate Bish/strategy/if HT coded it it must be okay" lines. And that was the end of it.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: LCADolby on July 30, 2023, 05:14:05 AM
In game it seemed he reveled in the fact the he was "unbelievably skilled" to so many players
To pick out his piloting; Being a hinge neck he was only ever going to use aircraft that enhanced his strength; If he had Speed or altitude to use in an La7 or 190D, yes he'd win, he made few mistakes and always made sure a margin of error to flee a fight.
Co-E he was just as average as the rest of us plane maneuvering-wise (I have a film on my youtube showing as much). His running away when he didn't have speed and altitude was and still is more legendary when compared anything else in his bag of tricks, getting banned for some shady toejam excluded. His Gunnery was way above average mind you, I personally have never seen any one win as many straight up, straight down, head-on and high angle deflection shots.
Call me a fan boy - but the dude was an excellent stick. Also was a stand up guy, if you were in return. I could easily see getting bored of 4-6 years of whining from the same people and wanting to shut them down. I don't deny he deserved his ban, but when 90% of the player base thinks your cheating because of idiots that go unchecked for years (just as Merv said) it's wild to see it from a neutral perspective.
It really is a man of questionable character to make the effort to require the alt, speed, position and direction of his chosen foe, it proves that he stacked the deck to ensure he was always higher and faster to compound a facade that he was "an excellent stick" and " Unbelievably Skilled".. When you come to realise his methods in the MA were all smoke and mirrors the conclusion is that he wasn't unbelievably skilled, it was indeed very believable.
Having zero conscience harassing people into leaving HiTech's game... That was his stupidity and eventual undoing, you simply don't fuq with the man's money.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Dadtallica on July 30, 2023, 08:13:12 AM
Perception is reality.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 30, 2023, 08:37:04 AM
Taking HQ can indeed be a strategic goal, but to do it over and over to a team that has less that 50% of its bases serves no purpose other than prideful chest-pounding. It causes players log off because they can't find a fight and/or don't want to get jumped. How is this defensible?
Then you should ask Hitech to make HQ invulnerable. Or ask him to make HQ invulnerable when a team has less than 50% of its bases.
Either way, it is not Merv's problem. It's not his code. He didn't make HQ destroyable and he didn't configure the down time. He can pound your HQ anytime he wants. As many times as he wants. He is free to play anyway he wants within HTC rules. Hitech makes bombers available and has made HQ destroyable. Merv is playing the game as Hitech intended.
If Hitech agrees with you, he can change the code. Apparent fuji, laser and their ilk have not been successful in getting Hitech to ban him. Snicker.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Lazerr on July 30, 2023, 10:13:04 AM
Then you should ask Hitech to make HQ invulnerable. Or ask him to make HQ invulnerable when a team has less than 50% of its bases.
Either way, it is not Merv's problem. It's not his code. He didn't make HQ destroyable and he didn't configure the down time. He can pound your HQ anytime he wants. As many times as he wants. He is free to play anyway he wants within HTC rules. Hitech makes bombers available and has made HQ destroyable. Merv is playing the game as Hitech intended.
If Hitech agrees with you, he can change the code. Apparent fuji, laser and their ilk have not been successful in getting Hitech to ban him. Snicker.
Can you share a snip of where I said anyone should be banned? You're a tool.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 30, 2023, 11:00:20 AM
Can you share a snip of where I said anyone should be banned? You're a tool.
You are the same ilk. That is guilt enough.
You have to jump in insulting me to protect your little banning buddies, yet you never stopped and considered standing up for another players right to play the game the way Hitech designed it without harassment or threats.
You chose your side. Live with the stink.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Lazerr on July 30, 2023, 11:18:04 AM
You have to jump in insulting me to protect your little banning buddies, yet you never stopped and considered standing up for another players right to play the game the way Hitech designed it without harassment or threats.
You chose your side. Live with the stink.
You're kind of contradicting your logic you keep throwing at Violator in the O club. I suppose you'll have to think about which thread because your always having pissing matches and throwing mud on these boards, without even being an active member of the game. After being in this game for 20 plus years, you are on the verge of being the first and only person I've put on ignore.
I can discuss, and see different points of view with just about anyone. You are more like an annoying mosquito that won't die, and keeps flying right next to your ear..
I'm sure now you will want to get into how loud a mosquito really even is, if it's been proven by science, and if the earth really is round.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 30, 2023, 11:25:17 AM
You don't deny jumping in insulting me to stand up for your ban-buddies. You chose your side. Live with the stink.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Lazerr on July 30, 2023, 11:33:40 AM
My comments aren't about ban buddies, they are purely about you.
Yes they are. You were mad that I was standing up to your ban-buddies and not backing down. You chose the side of those harassing and threatening Merv for playing the game as Hitech designed. Can you link to a post of you defending the right of Merv to play the game as he wished within HTC rules? You chose the other side and then started insulting me because I wouldn't back down to the lynch-mob of self-appointed dictators.
That stink is on you. Live with it.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: Lazerr on July 30, 2023, 12:24:25 PM
You're kind of contradicting your logic you keep throwing at Violator in the O club. I suppose you'll have to think about which thread because your always having pissing matches and throwing mud on these boards, without even being an active member of the game.
I think this is a little bigger then Mervs post. I never mentioned him being banned, or even changing his gameplay. I play alongside him in the arena actually. But like previously mentioned, this is about you just being an ultra melon in general, across the board. I'm not going to dive into one of 50 rabbit holes you have going, I've got better ways to spend my time. Bye.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 30, 2023, 12:27:13 PM
Well, I will say that "gaming the game" is normally frowned upon, and scrutiny coming from doing that is going to happen. Whether it's Aces High or anything else. No need to ban, but he should expect people to criticize, especially if he is outspoken bragging about it.
Just sayin - however, yes personal attacks and outright nasty language is abuse and should be dealt with by the him, the community mods, the community reprimand, or Hitech if it's really bad enough.
Title: Re: never used to complain about this...
Post by: CptTrips on July 30, 2023, 12:36:27 PM
Well, I will say that "gaming the game" is normally frowned upon, and scrutiny coming from doing that is going to happen.
How is it gaming the game to use the bombers Hitech put in the game to bomb the HQ that Hitech made destructible? And taking down the radar like Hitech coded the effect to do?
Why is that not playing the game the way the designer intended?
If you say THAT is gaming the game, then shooting down another player is gaming the game. This isn't exploiting a modelling glitch in some building with a tank. This is intended behavior that Hitech specifically coded in the game for players to use.
It's not "Gaming the Game". It's "Playing the Game".
What is really amusing is that none of this ilk will dare take this to Hitech and tell him he needs to change the down-time, or the hardness, or tell him to ban a paying customer for playing the game the way he coded it. Maybe they are afraid he will laugh in their face.
And you know what? I would fight all day, every day, for even you to be allowed to play the game as you wish within the HTC rules. If you give in to self-appointed dictators there will be no end to their demands. There is no end to the unwritten rules they will pull out their yen-yang and demand you follow. It's like negotiating with terrorists. Never give in, unless you want to be capitulating daily to a new demand.